Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES - Battles 

My idea is that they're building a framework for future historical TW games and they're using Pharaoh to beta test. Hopefully this is the first step towards Medieval 3.

​@@TrifectaMonkey The technology seems to be getting to the point where Medieval 3 will be a seriously good evolution instead of just a reskin

@@TrifectaMonkey Gods hopefully not. Already Pharaoh is a Troy reskin, don't tell me they are gonna ruin Med3 with this old asf engine

@@DiocletianLarius Doesn't have to be the same engine. It's just about testing the concept of it.

​@@TrifectaMonkey The point at which they make a profit is over. This total overhaul of everything is costing them millions.

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Marduk deliver me for I am ready

your mind isnt ?😂

How bout your pocket 😏

right? are we even going to need Hecleas animation mod anymore?

Wait so now there is matched combat like Rome 2 and atilla?

@@Byz_enjoyer Yes, there always kind of was matched combat in the game, like that a soldier hits another soldier and he reacts by blocking it with his shield, but kill animations at the end (the most important part in my opinion) only happened for generals when they killed somebody, not for regular soldiers. Now everybody has them, so regular soldiers use matched combat kill animations too. So like in Rome 2 and Attila as you said.

@@lp4514 that’s so awesome, I’m actually now really hyped to play pharaoh

Bronze Age = best Age

Heavy armor and shields counter lethality.

Good news is the effectiveness of lethality can be changed by the player, if I’m not mistaken

@@sandwhich1172 a lot of the various customization settings they've put in this game are a really nice touch and should be the standard going forward.

Two-handed axes can split archers in two anyway, Irsu approves!

I agree with you there. These aren't new systems. They've been around in the old Total War games. Glad that they're finally being reimplemented again though. Tired of the fast arcadey system they've been going with since Warhammer.

@@Torag55 Isn't lobbed and direct shots already a thing in Medieval 2? They only do lobbed when their line of fire is obstructed because, as you said, lobbed shots waste enerygy ergo less effective. So why bother making it a toggleable option when the game should be able to decide that automatically? What circumstances would the player prefer it outside of that reason?

@@kubli365 Yes. This has been a thing since like Rome Total War as well, which is carried over to Medieval 2 Total War. I agree with you. I don't see the point in making it a togglable option. What's also funny is that if the units in Medieval 2 have a direct line of sight with the enemy, they will do direct shots instead of arc shots even if they're at max range, and as you said, they only do arcing shots if they don't have direct line of sight. In a way, this is a downgrade from Medieval 2 Total War's ranged attacks. However, the new Total War games have more accurate shots than Medieval 2, as arcing shots in Medieval 2 are very inaccurate and tend to be spread out compared to Dynasties.

@@kubli365 At a guess you can choose between increased lethality or less friendly fire when firing over friendly units. It should really be automated with an option to override the AI's decision though. Even in Rome 1 the AI mostly made the right call for the type of shot and having to micromanage that sounds awful.

@@Torag55 I’ve watched an hour of gameplay, it’s so dated and obviously selling us mods rather than new games. I mean the tedious faction roulette after a turn end? How about only follow the factions that your ‘scouts’ deem a threat? The stupid animation before/after a battle, why not show generals meet and dramatically head back to their armies, and at the end of a battle show a period accurate execution? The clashing hasn’t looked good since atilla, and gosh those huge banners filling up the screen is crazy to me. It seems so easy to improve this game, but I feel they don’t want to so they can drip feed improvements, or pretend things are new and improved while they were around since twenty years ago.

Hector: 😰

*Brad Pitt intensifies*

For troy

Lion of Anatolia.. Hector!

"we'll meet again soon, my brother" 😢

Sadly only the new battle map will be bigger; the old ones won't be increased in size.

@@GermanOlle They did not say that in this video. They actually even said the Troy maps needed reworking. Their statement about battle maps being larger was not exclusively with regards to Mesopotamia. And the Troy maps had plenty of space to expand the map edges.

@@WekBenHelix they said this in a Qand A the old maps are the same not enough Budget

@@mariusbehm9874 "We are making land battles a lot larger than they used to be." They said this talking about the entire Dynasties expansion. This was said about battle maps AFTER they specifically talked about bringing back Troy maps and creating new maps/cities for Babylon. Nowhere in this Q&A or in any prior Q&As did they say they had too little budget. You are making things up.

@@WekBenHelix Yes and they will not rework theOLder maps iam still Hyped but the old maaps are the same you can see for youself in 2 Days

Instant GOTY intro😂

I am Groot! I am Steve Rogers.

And there is Assyrian artwork of camel riders with one as an archer and one as the driver. I believe it is also plausible that horse scouts existed back then but mostly as scouts ridden by light men or teens

*insert camel*

Yup. What it should have probably been called originally, at least what the scope should have been originally. I was not interested in Pharaoh because I was not going to go along with them selling us pieces of the map piecemeal like in fantasy WH. But now that it's a full scope historical game with a full map like the older ones I interested now.

Rome 2 kinda had that with arrows and javelins , especially javelins , its too brutal there . but attila made both way softer somehow probably to not give a bigger boost to the huns and since then the arrows kept feeling weaker and weaker till they became spongy in troy and pharaoh so glad they are making the game brutal again especially with that blood dlc that make this game even more gruesome than rome2

@@LauftFafa I remember in Rome II on Very Hard difficulty using a single unit of Leves to kill an entire Oathsworn unit by pelting them in the back. Oathsworn being the deadliest infantry in the game.

@@R3GARnator yeah i swear , that game was the most satisfying in arrows and javelins , the best part beside watching the enemy formation collapsing to a volley is the sound , that crackling sound of arrows and javelins hiting shields and armor was so cool

I see so many ways of improving this game, I’ll stick with manor lords.

@@Auxius. You watched one video lol. The game is damn near perfect. A true historical title. But you do you boo boo.

Same! Rome 2 was the last game i bought from them and i still think it's the greatest one of them all, i buyed Pharaoh played a couple of hours and immediately left it to rot, but it seems they improved pretty much everything about it, this looks cool AF in all honesty!

How was your 10-year coma?

I feel it’s lacking still. I’ll play manor lords over this.

i would have prefered to have it automatic like in medieval 2: - if unit sees directly enemy, they direct shoot - if unit doesnt see it directly, they arc shoot

@@adrienwarad You can make it automatic. You just also have the option of forcing direct or indirect fire.

​@@adrienwarad it defaults to automatic, but you can choose a particular type if you don't want to expend ammunition using the other

@@adrienwarad Ι believe its actually better this way, a player may not want to waste ammo on long ineffective arcs

​@@adrienwaradit is automatic in all total war not just med 2, have you never noticed the arcs change? what they adding is the option to manually choose between them and varying damage/lethality.

Same here.

@@historyacademiae 👏👏👏

Fools

hello fellow follower of the Manperor

That’ll leave more time to campaign 👍

Sounds like a really shitty girlfriend. You're better off, fam.

Nice

Thank you very cool

Why

I'm so jealous bro. I wish I would've went to uni just to study history and archeology. I'm an ancient historian in my free time since middle school. Something no one would suspect this forklift driver of being. Congratulations.

Because otherwise no one buy it.

They almost finished it but due to budget and time they scrapped it

You mean they were actually adding citizens ? God I wish they do that eventually so I may become the real villian feeling how pillaging feels like rather than just pressing the Raze button ​@@baconose1

@@AmirNamadian Yeah but it was scrapped as they'd have to change the age ratings and stuff which is expensive

​@@baconose1could have made it a dlc similar to the blood dlc. Oh well

medieval 2 mechanics are back :D

@@adrienwarad was this in medieval? I didn't know that. Been playing modded versions of the game for so long that it didnt cross my mind

@@Floridabummer in older total war all soldiers have 1 HP (+1 or +2 depending on general's unit or mods), so most stuff were realisticly killed in one blow (atk and defense was the main stats to see how much they would do or get killing blows)

​@@adrienwaradthe pharoah one is an analog. But it makes sense that less armored units would be more likely to get one shot than armored units. While armored units still has a small chance to get one shot by an arrow in the eye socket. Pharoah seems to be a bit more tactical than the... Blob fights with spells and buffs we currently have in wh3.

@@adrienwarad Unless the attack wasn't a killing blow, in which case the unit might just get stun-locked getting damaged but never dying.

There isn't that much of a difference between major and minor factions, so it's not really that minor factions are smaller/worse, they mainly just don't have a unique leader, except the ones from Troy, and have slightly less units. Also Hanigalbat which is a major faction is technically an Assyrian faction too since it's leader Ninurta-Apal-Ekur will be the next Assyrian king. So it's basically the same as with Egypt where the actual Pharaoh, so the main Egypt, Merneptah is just a minor faction too and the one who later becomes the main Pharaoh this game is about starts outside of Egypt, Ramses III, is a major faction. They explained this decision to make Assyria that way that they wanted to have the character of Ninurta-Apal-Ekur as the Assyrian leader since he as I said will become king of Assyria shortly after the start of the campaign, but since he isn't king yet in 1205 BC he starts as a separate faction next to Assyria, but his faction is basically Assyria too (ignore the faction name Hanigalbat, that just describes where he starts, but the faction culture is Assyrian, all the units are called Assur Horsemen or things like that, he has Assyrian gods and even CA called the faction "Assyria (Hanigalbat)", so they clearly intend him to be a Assyrian major faction.

That's probably why most historical only fans don't buy their games, it isn't Rome III/Medieval 3/Empire 2/Shogun 3 so they don't want it

There already is an option for this in Pharaoh to make the unit icons look like that.

I'm glad they brought it back like it was in Rome 2. It just looks so much nicer.

It certainly is a return to classic form. If this keeps up for the next one with some improvements as well, like giving us an actual renaissance total war, that could be fun. Like imagine a total war that let you play factions, but also maneuver the fate of dynasties, manage the shifting tides of religious change, political change, cultural change, and technological changes that would signal the ending of medieval kingships and the rebirth of the concept of empires.

Did you even play 3K?

@@LordFinai yes and it was hot garbage 🗑️

@@Motleydoll123 100% dude the dynastic elements developed here would definitely fit into those settings. Not sure of the likelihood since the main studio last I heard is still burning but this Sofia branch really is shining through.

@@mastercheif878 there is always some hope, plus renaissance total war would absolutely justify the presence of naval battles making a return. And using dynasties for it could lead to some interesting factional elements at play. Like each country might have 1 or more great dynasties that the players can control. So while you obviously focus on building more territory and power for the country, you also are playing politics with trying to keep your dynasty on top… or getting them on top if your not the ruling dynasty. Lots of political marriages, murdering, scheming, and gathering of power until you either make a grab for the throne directly or recieve it by inheritance. After all… if the ruling dynasty are all dead, surely your dynasty is the obvious pick.

Don't remember the exact number of soldiers it has but Pharaoh does have an extreme unit size option.

@@lp4514 This is awesome, I’m totally purchasing it now. The more units, the grander the spectacle, the bigger the organsm.

@@Caucasian60 I just checked the numbers in case you're interested in the details. So it depends on the faction because in Pharaoh most factions on extreme have just 180 men with the extreme unit size option, but there is also a faction like Seti that has 240 men units on extreme unit size. Based on their faction description Babylon will probably also have 240 men units. Also I'm sure there will be something like a 2x unit size mod, I think there currently already is one, for Pharaoh which is relatively easy to make and doubles all numbers so it's 360 or 480 men units instead of 180 and 240.

@@lp4514 You’re awesome. Thanks for confirming that. I’m for sure going to buy it now. After playing Divide Eternal Impera, it’s so hard to go back to something like Warhammer Total War 3 with their meagre unit sizes. My graphics card and processor hate me for it, but God is it glorious having 10,000 men battles.

Yeah it's best that medieval 3 was a more polished pharoah than based out of rome 2 or warhammer 3.

@@loowick4074 they should base it on medieval 2. battles were a lot more refined in the 20+ years old game

Yeah they will deffo be fast i think, but more cinematic apparently. Im looking forward to trying it out

I got the impression he meant you'll have to be more careful and tactical, rather than just charge in. I think!

Yes, and it's awful.

@@scotvince7847 I honestly don't think Lethality is too overpowering. Trash militia gets shredded by arrows if they aren't armored but it from what I've seen it isn't absolutely oppressive. I like it cuz it makes flanking manuevers and charges feel properly impactful when a bunch of models actually die on impact.

It doesn't make sense because the game cannot handle 40 units both sides on a good PC with extreme size or more units even with ultra unit size. Engine needs to be modernized or smth.

There is mods for this. You better have a NASA's PC.