I was deadass watching this for at least a minute being like why does everything he own look like its from 2012 before realizing when this was uploaded.
+RealityFacade its cabled and labeled well but an IT admin would never use the equipment he has chosen. netgear switches are insanely unreliable as are the western digital "my books" that he has as his NAS. an IT admin would have used an old 10/100/1000 switch from work for his switches (prob cisco or hp, i use hp) and built a file server for his NAS which would run RAID 10, 5 or 1 at the very least.
+Steve Simonds Considering he bought most of the stuff already used, it is no wonder. He bought it cheap without worries plus he seems like an Apple user with the i and all :P
"We have no cable or satellite" WELL, I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE TOUR Also, this comment section is so full of cancer it is untrue. I'm a Windows guy but the amount of people complaining about his use of Macs and not rack mounting anything is so stupid.
I agree 1000% about this comment section. The Apple bashing is very uneeded, it's what it is but not bad, just not the same. And the Windows bashing is so outdated, incorrect and quite dumb in some cases too.
He lives in a mansion now. He has almost 1 million Subs and average view is 1,5 million each video. 40,000 dollars a month. He has his full time network and backup guy now probably.
This video is in 60fps, and it looks great. Funny enough, this isn't the first 60fos video on RU-vid, way back in 2008, we have Cartfrog, the oldest youtube video to have 60fps. Back in 2008, that was actually impressive, since RU-vid didn't implement 60fps uploads to RU-vid until 2014, so seeing something uploaded earlier than 2014 that is in 60fps was unheard of.
While I'm sure WiFi in 2013 wasn't as reliable as it has been in the past few years, I don't think it was _that_ bad back then. I do like this setup as it's clean and has a clear purpose and is kept neat (cable management). Nicely done, and I will keep checking for a 2019 revisit of this to see what's changed.
Nice and neatly organized setup 8-bit Guy. It made me smile when I heard your preference of wired LAN over WiFi. Same here, including laser over inkjet. This is usually a logical/practical choice for those looking for the best cost/performance solution. Obviously wireless is convenient, but it has lots of variables which degrades the connection speed/quality (connection protocol, interference, latency, overhead, placement, etc). Even the highest practical speed of WiFi is no match to a consistent/stable ethernet connection, especially when transferring large files. Both technologies are pretty mature by now, so they can be used concurrently in most network setups.
***** Agree with you that wireless has come a log way, but if you wanna squeeze out the very last drop of speed, wired will always do better. Wireless inherently has more overhead, that's just the ways it was and always will be my friend. :)
I love your desk setups. Just what I was looking for for my limited space. Thank you for sharing! PS: I personally wish I could do wired, but I just have an apartment. Currently, my high-end TP-link AC router actually works really well with few issues.
Redwave trance Ethernet is preferred because: 1. it is more reliable. You plug in the wire and it instantly works. Wi-Fi is a lot more bothersome to set up, there are SSIDs and passwords and encryption to worry about...It's a pain. 2. It is faster. On Ethernet, every Cat6 cable carries data at 100 or 1000 Mb/s. Each and every device on an Ethernet network gets it's own 100 or 1000 meg duplex pipe and they can all transmit at the same time. On Wi-Fi, all devices on a hot spot share about 50 Mb/s, and only one can send or receive at a time. 3. It is faster II. There are two allocations of spectrum for Wi-Fi: the 2.4GHz band and the 5 GHz band. The 2.4 GHz band is devided between 11 channels. They overlap. Channels 1 and 2 will interfere with each other; you should only ever use channels 1, 6 and 11. That means only three networks can share space without overlapping. Once you have more than three, they start interfering with each other. 5 GHz is larger and less busy, but fewer devices are made for it. If I can, I use 5 GHz instead of 2.4. 4. It is more secure. I'm not worried about my data being safe here; it's all going out over the internet, and no internet connection is really secure. But it's a lot harder for my neighbors to steal my Ethernet bandwidth. 5. PoE. Ethernet is capable of transmitting power for devices like Wi-Fi hot spots, cameras, home automation and IoT devices. Wi-Fi can't do that.
That's hard to answer. If you're using your network to attach all of your devices to the internet, ultimately yes. The connection out to the internet is much slower than Ethernet or Wi-Fi in almost all cases, so each device that is pulling traffic simultaneously slows things down for everyone. On the other hand, if you're like me and you use your network to talk between devices--I have a file server with Network Area Storage, a networked printer, and I use SSH to access my Raspberry Pis--that traffic never hits my router, it all goes through my switch, completely unaffected by wireless traffic.
I completely agree about using a wired network in the house. I have a fanless 24 port Netgear switch that I got on eBay three years ago for $8. It has worked flawlessly since then. Great video - good work.
I have a similar setup but my gear is all gigabit Ethernet. I have 14 Ethernet jacks around my apartment with Category 6A cabling (should have gone with optical fiber on some links) but since there are quite a few mobile devices floating around I have to make sure my Wi-Fi coverage is satisfactory. My network is centered around several repurposed old PCs and Raspberry Pi's running Linux as routers, so I have a very enterprise-y network with advanced network tricks deployed.
Raspberry Pi 2 serves as a pretty solid router with a couple of USB Ethernet and Wi-Fi adapters (I usually go with one Ethernet and one Wi-Fi adapter, together with the onboard Ethernet I have a wired uplink, a wired downlink and a wireless downlink.) Since Raspberry Pi runs a full blown Linux distribution just like those used in enterprise environments all network tricks available on those Jupiter or Cisco Linux-powered routers or other enterprise-grade gear are also available on this tiny box. My home network currently uses a repurposed old PC as the router (also powered by Linux) and I can play with tricks like WPA2 Enterprise.
is of no use with his equipment ... his switches are dumb switched hubs, not real switches with full gbit per port available (it's a gb for the whole switch, considering it's a gbit switch) when he's doing multiple high bandwith tasks on his network, the speed of those tasks will plummet, and only one task will really run fast;... consider upgrading those switches to a single 48port gbit switch that is managed (cisco/hp/... even netgear has them i believe)
@@BoGy1980 For cost I'd say Netgear. I'm sure he can get some Cisco or HP stuff on "ebay" or similar, but I've not really seen them in person outside places where Cisco equipment was the entire point of me being there. Ubiquiti might be an option depending on the price.
@@xnamkcor i'm using hp Aruba switches here at home, wanted security and better performance than my smc unmanaged switches. even ubiquity are mostly unmanaged stuff and switches are actually switched hubs that will drop in speed if you're using maxspeeds with more than 2 devices.
@@BoGy1980 I'm using a semi-managed 24 port netgear. Barely use the management. Got a Ubiquiti router I got for 5 USD, but I've only played with it. I'll probably never use it.
Just would like to tell You that I think Your Studio is Very Professional looking. Very neat & clean; Exemplary! Love your videos. Great job on Everything Man. Love the Desk. I Lived in Texas before; I LOVE Texas! GOD Bless Houston since Im on the subject (used to live there too).
Great attention to detail such as adding an extra bracket on the side of your shelf as well as fixing everything neatly and tightly! Really professional and rarely seen in a home setup!
Congratulations to the very tidy installation. Like some mentioned you might consider getting a proper NAS with RAID capability, it will greatly improve backup speeds between drives. If you are concerned about power consumption get something like a Intel Atom, they have low power consumption. And If you have some linux knowledge you could easily use that server as fileserver and firewall.
I really applaud your setup for many reasons, things I've always believed also: A) wired ethernet beats wireless all of the time. wireless is subject to interference and flaky, and honestly for things that don't move why bother? just run a cable to it. It's easy. B) Laser printers, never inkjet, waste of money, totally absolutely agree. I advise all of my clients the same way. C) I love the mac minis! Seriously, for browsing the web or looking at PDFs around the house, you don't need anything more powerful than that, nice compact form factor too. Kudos on still using the PPC macs, i was so fond of them. Anyway, thanks for this!
Part of my Air Force career involved me climbing above drop ceilings and running twisted-pair for the base network! I was very proud of our efforts as we would run the cables in the wall with fishtape and just like your installation were very professional!! Cheers!
While I agree with you 100% that wired is better and *more* reliable, to say that "wireless is complicated and unreliable" isn't exactly true nowadays. Maybe like, 8 years ago that was the case. For the most part, wireless is pretty solid these days. Anyways, nice setup.
Honestly I couldn't agree more with you on the ethernet vs. wireless. Anytime you choose to use ethernet besides wireless you just free up that much more bandwidth for wireless devices, especially when the device is stationary; Thats how I run my network, the phones and tablets use the wireless, while the computers, IPTV, and gaming console all use ethernet. Key note on wireless printers... Never understood the point of having a wireless printer. I mean the thing is stationary, why not run an ethernet cable right from the wall. Otherwise the thing goes into sleep mode and the router can't find it or there is a lack of signal or what ever else. I'd rather have the luxury of having the connectivity to the device and knowing it's going to work the first time, other than pulling my hair out going oh that's cute it's in sleep mode again. Not seeing a logical point on why we're trying so hard to make everything wireless... even on appliances now, but still a strong believer on wireless.
Gage Foltyn amen... the number of callouts I've been to where the Wireless printer suddenly stopped working... or couldn't be set up to begin with... the things are just not reliable
Oh man it drives me crazy. The crazy thing of it is with wireless printers; it's not just my network where this is happening, it's almost every network I have worked on that has had the similar problem over and over again. I just... I don't get the concept.
consumer grade printers are already bad enough.. having them use wifi just makes the situation that much worse. over five years have passed since this video was published now, and consumer grade printers still haven’t gotten any significant improvements
How it was cool. And yes I watched it in Nov 2016, just because I love your stuff. Its COOL that u have separate computer for all of housemates. All of your stuff is not fancy, just gets the job done. Its nice to see that, that even with normal stuff you make such good videos. #respect. We share similarity of spending time in technology not money.
I like my wired network as well. It is up 99.9 percent of the time and I never have a problem. Fun besides seeing what I can add to it. 3 printers, 4 computers, 1 server, 1 nas server, and wireless access for when my friend and his wife come over. Real nice tour of your network. I bet you had fun installing it. Thank you.
No patch panel, using the the modem from your ISP, everything is mac and running externals instead of a actual NAS box..... an impressive home network if you don't know much about network hardware.
I suppose the point then was that he should have a rack as well.... or at least organize the devices in a better way than just taping them to his office wall....
Wow you are way too focused on the rack thing. My original point was that it's telling when someone who wants to appear to be knowledgeable owns mostly cheap or the 'for dummies' version of everything. Back to the rack thing, I think if you are going to spend this much on a home network you should do it correctly and also make it look nice and yes I believe a rack would be required for that. You obviously don't and that's fine.
***** I'm actually with Abestar here, but I absolutely see your point when it comes to does everything he owns work and was it affordable. But here is the other side. Firstly, he's using rack mount network switches. While his cable running is extremely clean, a lot of it is clearly visible. A rack would hide much of the cabling, and a simple PVC pipe at the back could cover the wires so none would be visible. If you've ever built your own computer, you know all about cable management and how to run wires behind the board to hide cables. Secondly, he's using the modem his ISP provided him, so he's likely paying more each month, as most ISPs charge a rental fee, vs owning your own modem you don't get charged. Many ISPs do not support custom configurations so if he wanted to turn off certain features, change the DNS, he may not be able to. Everything running Mac...everything Mac is overpriced garbage. You could get much more out of a simple computer if you bought it for specs (Ram, CPU, Hard drive space) and then installed Mac if you wanted to run it so badly. That right there is how you know people buy Mac to be a part of a group or a trend. If you do not believe me, look at the tech specs on this laptop www.amazon.com/MSI-GE70-Apache-Pro-012-17-3-Inch/dp/B00IMTQ5I2/ref=psdc1_t3_B00IKF2H12_B00IMTQ5I2 and this mac www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/ The most expensive mac doesn't even TOUCH the MSI. So for HALF THE PRICE, if you wanted to so bad, because you must use the Mac OS, why wouldn't you get something that will provide amazing performance, install the Mac OS, and save some money? The Mac is nearly double. Double. You could get two and install the OS! Then, you'd have TWO new Mac laptops! Exactly. No one does that, right? Apple is a fad. That's why Apple was mentioned. And lastly the NAS box is an amazing idea. NAS boxes have their own processor much like in a laptop and their own ram and motherboard. They're basically computers. External drives die much faster and don't provide the read/write speeds of a NAS box. Ontop of that, the guy has external hard drives as network drives. External hard drives do not provide nearly as much of the data throughput that could be seen when the same amount of data storage was kept in a single location via NAS. So now he's got a bunch of storage on a really slow connection, and those drives will be the bottleneck of his network. Your network is only as fast as your slowest connection, and those networked externals are probably it. Abestar is absolutely right. This is the beginner's approach to things, and while it works, he spent much more than he needed to for very low performance.
Hello, My name is Ricardo and I'm studying networks and I received the link to see a domestic network. I really like the way you implemented it. I gained more knowledge. Congratulations on the built network.
The switch and cabel management is realy nice. Why you dont get _one_ NAS-machine with RAID5/6 HDD-Setup instead of 4 external HDDs? And why the heck are you using only Macs? Also why the port tags are on the switches and not on the cables?
What kind of datacenter do you think it looks like? Maybe a small/medium corporate network but not a datacenter at all! Far from looking like one! Yeah, he took care about a lot of details from the ISO norm like naming everything and measurements etc..
Nice set up... Thanks for sharing this... I agree with your wired verses wireless implementation and have installed a wired network in my home for all the same reasons.
I feel you pain about rearranging stuff. I've had my computer all over my apartment - and it takes hours to unplug and re-route all those friggin' cables. Enough to make a grown man cry. I applaud you heavy use of ethernet cables. It's far more secure nowadays to employ hard wiring versus going wireless. It substantially reduces the ability to hack your network doing this. Good job!
FlightSupreme I used to edit RU-vid videos on a Pentium 4 Prescott 2.8 GHz with Windows 7, 1.25 GB of memory, and an NVidia GeForce FX5200 AGP 8x 256MB. Think of how you would have felt.
Great setup! I have just bought my first house and I plan on doing the same thing... Run cables to every room and patch it all into a switch in the cupboard... Bit more work in setup, but I enjoy it, and the reliability and speed of ethernet is unbeatable with Wi-Fi!
Props to you for avoiding cable/satellite tv. Stick with netflix and the like, cable tv anymore is essentially "reality" show trash or artificial talk show personalities with inflated ego's. Network's have refused to adapt with the times and instead treat their viewers like idiots by airing stuff like The Real Housewives, or bitching about ratings and thus putting a shows future in question when they happen upon actual quality, i.e., Constantine & Hannibal. Don't get me wrong, there are still good programs on tv, like Black Sails, Mad Men and the aforementioned. But I believe programs of their quality would have a much wider audience on Netflix or Hulu. Oh yea, sweet network setup. Smart labeling.
Yeah!, Here in my house we do not use Cable nor Satellite. THIS in the Future. I Loved your videos and your work office. Thanks for the ideas. Oh yes, nice car!
***** those resolutions you are taking about, are ok but for 2015 they are just outdated, i personally prefer 20:10 ratio 1920x1200 but very difficult to find that ratio now above that resolution, i have a dell U2412m 1920x1200 and a Asus 4k 28in which is 16:9 standard UHD. I don't see the point you make about your 26'' TV i used have a 37'' tv with that resolution 10 years ago now you can get 24inch 4k monitors, and soon 5.5inch 4k phones
Eliah Hughes In one video, he said he prefers the square monitors because you can get more monitor for the same money. See his video "Dell Ultrasharp Monitors - the best choice for a Mac or PC?"
That LAN setup is tight! Gonna have to upgrade to gigabit switches someday once Charter bumps up their speeds. Running Cox Ultimate here (200 Mbit down) and HAD to go to gigabit equipment to take advantage. Keep up the awesome videos!
I currently have DSL with a wireless modem, which is horrible! My modem is in one corner of my house. and the wireless signal isn't strong at all. I plan to switch to cable 100Mbps, but I want to convert my phone lines (unused) to Ethernet. The cables aren't marked Cat5, but they have 4 twisted pairs Br, Br/W, G, G/W, O, O/W, and Bl, bl/W so I assume they are Cat5, right? My data lines come in from an outside garage wall. Question: Can I locate my Ethernet switch in my garage and use the Ethernet plug that my DSL is currently plugged into to hook a cable modem to the switch? The way I see it, all I have to do is isolate the line connected to the DSL plug and dedicate it to the modem and then use the remaining lines for dedicated Ethernet ports. Am I right?
Another awesome video. i have a wireless setup in my home with some of my computer running windows xp and some of the wireless adapters were "too old" and "werent supported" with my new router given to me by my cable provider(quotes by my provider). I ran a cable from my router to my furthest room away from the router and no more trouble gaining a connection. Definitely thinking about starting a wired network somewhere in my home.
Steve Simonds CAT5e ethernet is still god for most users and the purpose they use it for. CAT6 is complete overkill for nearly all domestic users. It's like using a V8 engine for 'Sunday driving' or a nuclear bomb to fry an egg.
It's all down to RELIABILITY in the end. A wired connection (with decent cables) ensures you're getting the full speed/service your modem/router is capable of, where as wi-fi is susceptible to interference and deteriorates over distance.
+Steve Simonds I feel like suggesting one future proofs themselves by running CAT6 and then calling 10GbE overkill is contradictory. You still only need 10 Mbps for 4K video streaming, so by your logic you might say 'needing CAT6 for 1GbE over distance', that being 100 times more than is needed for the next generation TV format, is overkill.
+Steve Simonds 7 Gbps? not even close, a 4 stream ruckus wave 2 ap running AC using a 160mhz channel width which is insane tops out at 3.5 Gbps, It is the fastest ac device on the market if I am not mistaken, plus most devices can't even utilize more than 3 streams so you go back down to 2.6 Gbps. Wifi will never replace hardwired connections, 5ghz doesn't travel that far at all, plus you can run cat 6/6+ which prices are much cheaper now and run 10Gig. for most people the ~125MB/s on Gig is more than enough unless you have fast SSD Raids
+JakesDen Gaming Most Standard connections are only a gigabit. You would have to go looking specifically for a 10 in order to find stuff that works. Plus you would have to pay a premium for it.
I wish I had this setup. I recently wired my computer to my router thru my basement and I thought THAT was genius. You completely blew my understanding of home tech setup out of the water.
I actually have a full wired house too, but here's a tip: Check rj11 (phone line) jacks in the wall. In my case they where using Ethernet cables! So, I moved my router to the basement, where all the wires converged to a box, cut a couple, wired the Ethernet male connectors and changed out the rj11 jacks to rj45. Boom full house-wide ethernet. Cost me less then 50$.
+Tech Power stupid question. he'd at least leave the cat5e there. he'd take the switches, modem, router, etc. cat5e is ~$70 per 300m box. cheap as chips.
Would he even bother to take the switches and the modem? They are 24port 10/100 unmanaged netgear switches... worth less than $5 each these days and the router/modem is usually a free gift when you sign up for broadband
+The 8-Bit Guy Yeah that is fine I just hope you are using Cat5e or higher, the switches would be easy to replace but I would dread thinking about that cabling if you ever needed to upgrade.
+The 8-Bit Guy I was about to throw away two NetGear 24-port 100 base switches but now I'll keep them! :o) You're right, when i edit video or do animation I need gigabit but for most anything else its total overkill and just as prone to cable interference problems as wireless is.
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May be a stupid question but im trying to convince the other people in my house that me using Ethernet in my room wont slow down wifi for the rest of the house if my computers are all ready using wifi?
TrottingFox You have to look at the aggregate bandwidth. Not sure I understand the last part of the question. Have them run a speed test before, and during you being on the internet and see if their speed changes.
TrottingFox Depends on what your doing with your ethernet connection. If you are DDoSing North Korea with it, have a T1 or less, probably not going to have much luck with the pudding. Otherwise, you shouldn't be impacting them too bad.
I love network organization. I have a ubiquity system hidden inside of a temperature controlled cabinet, in the living room tv stand. Nice and clean looking. Like your setup, everything that is data hungry is also run over Ethernet.
We put an Ethernet jack in our bedroom. Mainly because the WiFi signal is weaker, but we have a lot of internet connected devices in it (TV, XBOX, TV, etc..). There is one line that connects to a switch, which has all our devices plugged into it. It’s a great setup! I wish I could put more lines in other rooms.
Ethernet is the way to go for desktop computers / gaming consoles. -- You're never going to run into weird interference issues, or over saturation of the Wi-Fi -- plus it keeps the Wi-Fi free for all your mobile crap. -- This is the right way to do it. Good job. :-)