Tournament Winning Arcade Sticks And Controllers 

i was suprise too 🤣

Sadly I think as the playerbase gets older, there will be fewer and fewer stick players.

It's only due to these tournament players having so much experience, often over a decade, playing their chosen game with stick. It's the players not the device. Though I do agree it's cool to see still, it's something that will dwindle with time.

​@@flyingfrogofdeath9616leffen wasn't a stick player. He was a pad player all his life. We also don't know the background of other players. I have met people who legit agree that pad is the worst controller for them because it tires them easily.

@@hanzohattori9576 I'm talking about for the vast majority. Practically every stick player that competes at the highest level has played on stick for years. Regarding the people you are refering the operative is "for them". Of course if you aren't used to playing on pad, then they aren't going to do well with pad... Incredible insight. On the other hand looks at Joka the Tekken player who beat the best players in the world, this past weekend using pad. Chikurin won EVO Japan with a pad a couple weeks further back. The point I am making is that those who compete at the highest level who are using stick are only using stick because that is what they are accustomed to. It's the weakest controller mechanically due to the it's fundamental design and the need for a physical lever to be manipulated to travel. Again, it's the player and their experience with the controller that counts more than anything. The more players that join the FGC, they will more likely be pad players, at least to start and the new age enthusiasts will gravitate towards the more optimal controller of the leverless style controllers, which is the same niche that stick used to fill before pad took over due to home console popularity overtaking arcades. Before that of course, stick was the preferred device due to the arcade scene, for a while, being the only and most accessible way for players to play and compete in fighting games. Stick has remained popular due to poorer pad design during the first few iterations of home consoles but the PS4 pad was the advent of a truly excellent pad for fighting games. We are still in the fallout of stick being the enthusiast device but the past few years, the leverless has become that. In a few more years, when most leverless competitors have 5 years + competing with their device, we will see a lot more. I imagine stick will be the least popular controller of those three styles in 5 years. That's the way things are trending and have been for a while now.

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I finally upgraded from a mayflash f300 to the Hori alpha. Love it. I’m fight stick stubborn. I just love that nostalgia of wailing on that joystick like I’m 12 again and street fighter 2 turbo cabinets were the coolest thing at the local pizza parlor.

dont jinx it lol, dont remind me lol

You are totally right, that is why i use stick, it just feels more fun.

top tier 👍

How do you like it, what are you coming off of? I have an 8bitdo with sanwa jlf. What stick did you use before?

So sick bro. You better drill drill and more drill

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that is great, use what works for you, try them all ♥🙏

It really does lol, i hope people dont just follow the hype

Love using gief and Hugo with arcade stick no lie with shoto I feel a little weird

Most popular stick in tournament basically, u got the the best weapon

top tier for tekken for sure

Do the Korean levers have a smaller dead zone and a somewhat tighter feel? I think I remember hearing about that somewhere and I'm always looking for different levers to try with shmups.

@@wtfdoihavetodohere don't quote me on this but I believe they use softer rubber bands so the stick comes back to neutral faster than others which makes it amazing for Mishima players.

@@wtfdoihavetodohereKorean levers use a stiff rubber grommet while the Japanese one use a spring. Korean levers give a faster neutral

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appreciate the love and support ♥🙏

yea, stick just feel right for me too ♥🙏

yup ♥🙏

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I am messing around with them, i will make a video in the future , i am quite behind schedule 🙏❤️

U r doing better than me 😊 i suck with leverless

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the video has so much numbers it might put u to sleep 🤣

@@JoystickNY very interesting video though! I am glad to see that arcade stick is still preferred! :)

Stick usually last a long time, keep it around 👍

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great info, ♥🙏 i used to have a hori ex, i loved it, it was great for its time

i heard good things, try it out and see

Yea its huge lol

good eyes, i almost forgot about that stick ♥🙏

I forgot to mention that many of those players are likely sponsored by Qanba. 😁

appreciate the info, ♥🙏 qanba does have a lot of exposure and ads everywhere too

good eyes, thank you i havent seen that stick in the usa♥🙏

basically all ps4 licensed stick should work on ps5 with tekken 8

edge is very popular, pre-covid i saw a lot of players using it, i think its because its an older stick, and its discontinue, and the older players are not competing as much.

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lol, i think he wants to test it out, every chance they can get is helpful in their lvl

go sticks ♥🙏 team stick for me lol

i will add it to my list, i am actually using it too, havent notice a huge diff yet ♥🙏

@@JoystickNY thats what I have been hearing, they are very similar except maybe pivot piece is smoother and bigger actuator

i saw a lot of edge pre covid

Thank you so much, yea i figured it wasnt some generic brand stick 👍

good input, thank you, i love the rap4

rap n has own many majors , def a top tier

possibly a bad batch sometimes, i havent had issues with them, they seem to be pretty solid, but i am just not feeling their new sticks last year interms of design

the qanba, hori, and nacon, recently release some ps5 and xbox, i also did reviews on them so far if you have time to check them out ♥🙏

Great info, i guess the 8bitdo also works, and the rap4 for switch

Thank you for sharing; i dont think i would ever get used to the lever less

that works, use what is comfortable for you ♥🙏

Dang He is good 👍

Great input 👍

that is impressive, for me is all stick ♥🙏

@@JoystickNY I'm slowly transitioning to playing more 2D fighters with stick, but I'm not quick enough for Marvel yet lol

Great info, and great observation 👍

good to know, thank you , i notice he is always switching up too ♥🙏

Cross/up is my favorite, because of the extra buttons. 🕹

ayo ? hehe lol me too, stick just feels more fun

go stick lol 😍

i heard good things about them too, 1 day i will try out more leverless and see

@@JoystickNY for the price you can't go wrong and the quality is very good. Now I think the kitsune is overpriced af. And the kitsune uses proprietary switches. The small and middle sized hitbox of haute 42 which I bought uses regular keyboard switches. ☮️

according to the data so far, you not wrong lol ♥🙏

i am just a avg joe that love fighting game 🤣

when 2xko comes out, we are going to see a lot of leverless with league players coming in,also keyboards ♥🙏

You'd probably be better just upgrading your 8bitdo with better parts. They're pretty easy to mod, this channel has a good video demonstrating how to do it. Itd be a fraction of the price of buying a new stick.

@@Lemonpeppergoblin I did upgrade my 8bitdo with Sanwa parts. I just don't like that there isn't much space to the left of the joystick. It causes friction with my wrist. It has taken some time to get used to it. Not sure if it make much of a difference, I just feel it's a comfort thing.

@gammawolf2563 If it's a size comfort thing, then maybe you could get something larger as the 8bitdo is a more compact stick. Dunno if you have it on you lap or on a table/desk but if it's rubbing maybe see if there's something soft like a wrist pad or similar padding you can maybe stick on side or edges?

no rush my friends,take your time ♥🙏

I think he probably does , default buttons and lever 👍

The 1 is hard to find, and the 2 is very expensive

review just uploaded, ♥🙏 it solid, but need more work on the menu buttons

he loves the dragon, i seen him with the dragon alot on videos

what are u using now ?

@@JoystickNY I went to the Hori alpha. I swapped the buttons w some sanwa silent gen2 and upgraded the joystick to a sanwa w otto V5. Feels super now and didn’t break the bank. Alpha is just solid for the money even without the swaps.

Good to know; the inputs r so hard on kof; pad would be crazy to use

excited for those 2 games, 2xko needs a better name lol

Yea lol even alot of older tourys; i notice there is alot of qanba

They are very popular, but sad they r so expensive now

@@JoystickNY I luckily found one at a 3rd party gaming store for $130.00 lol amazing. And can you please find out the akuma match up for Ken. Cause I use Ken and akuma is giving me the most problems even players that just mashes is giving me issues. Can you figure out the match up and let us know in a small 2 to 3 minute video? Please.

mostly not, they usually use more of the licensed arcade sticks

F500s are a great base for upgrading. I think it's more about the skill than the equipment on the whole, the equipment is more the tip of the iceberg, but a larger factor the higher the skill levels. Also, we don't always know what spring strengths, gates, shafts or even switches inside buttons people use, but most likely the ones that work best for them.

I think the Mayflash and 8bitdo sticks are a great base and easily modible. They're still really great stock though, and way more affordable. I think part of the reason you see so many sticks Qanba is partly because they sponsor events and players. Not that theyre necessarily bad, i just wouldnt shell out the price brand new for some like an obsidian 2 (£300+ where i live). Im thinking on buying another 8bitdo as my old mad catz pro stick (circa late 2000s) is showing age. I think of the stuff with more premium parts sort of like buying a mechanical keyboard, not super necessary but a bit better feedback. Buying a Qanba over a Mayflash or 8bitdo wont magically make you a better player.

If pros are to use mayflash they would likely be using one with a different board (whether it be brook or gp2040 or whatever) to reduce lag The stock mayflash board is not the greatest

For me is always going to be stick lol

I have been playing KOF since 95 (I just watched others playing KOF 94, as I disliked the lack of custom team). To me, it's OK to make a hop to the left, but it's harder to the right. I believe it's much easier to do hops using a Hitbox or a CrossUp (which is what I'm considering to build).

very true ♥🙏

I think is advantageous in terms of execution and input, i feel that stick is more natural over all

🤣 lol maybe the time hasnt come yet

as long as it work lol ♥🙏

Good point, probably same with smash 👍

Might be hard, it is very hard to connect a keyboard to a playstation, i tried, it didnt work 🥲

if you started with kb, you will prob love leverless

You have to pretty much eat, sleep, and repeat arcade stick usage and just use a variety of games using stick if possible. Beat 'em-ups and side-scrollers help, too. Don't just stick to fighting games, but try to throw variety in there. I even found a way to play games like Sengoku Basara using stick (with some adjustments) and even some RPGs. The more you use it in various situations, the more acclimated you will become to using it.

kenji8 made a good point, beat em up is great to help u get in casually

@@Kenoji8 that’s actually the best advice I ever heard but the struggle feels brutal I’m a decent sf player 1700 mr range and playing with a stick feels like playing with the pad upside down, im 29 been playing forever with pad

@@hectorgarcia5814 -- I have too, since I first played Street Fighter 2 Turbo on SNES when it had been out for a few years as a kid. It is going to be a slog because you're not used to it. It's like trying to go work out for the first time: you have no idea where to start, what exercises to do, nothing. And that is normally where people who are first starting to try to work out fail...because they don't have a plan. Your focus, primarily -- right now, is to build MUSCLE MEMORY. You're in the gym, trying to find out how the stick works, how to press buttons, timing, combos, navigating the device, questioning "WHY THE HELL AM I EVEN DOING THIS?!" It's not going to come together right away. You won't see results right away. It's not going to happen, even within a few months. That's like people going to the gym thinking they're going to get shredded in a month. That ain't happening. You have to keep it up EVERY DAY. And man, go through the gauntlet of games, I don't care if it IS playing Street Fighter II, Third Strike, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Darkstalkers, Cyberbots, Star Gladiator...any fighter or non-fighter that you can get your hands on and FORCE yourself to use stick and nothing else. And I guarantee, through hard work and prep and repetition...it will click one day and you'll be somewhat acclimated to it. But you played with pad to so long that you built that muscle memory. Just time to build it for another device if you think it is worth it.

@@hectorgarcia5814 -- Streets of Rage is my favorite beat-'em up series of all time and I pretty much love ALL of them (even SOR1, which I've played on Hard more times than I can say). And I've beat ALL of them (Arcade-wise) on stick. That's where I pretty much started apart from trying to play like Street Fighter IV and such. I HATED playing fighters using stick starting out because I was trash at it. I'm still not "the best-the best," but I've gotten more used to it. And I stuck with using a PlayStation emulator and going back playing my childhood favorites: Street Fighter Alpha 2 & 3, Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha, Star Gladiator, games like that, with the occasional going back to Streets of Rage games and other classic beat-'em ups and platformers, even a few OpenBOR ones like Ultimate Double Dragon. Heck, I even played SONIC 2 using stick! So I've been around the block with my usage despite my initial frustration and apprehension using my stick. I even have a playthrough of The Takeover on my channel. THAT playthrough was all played with stick. So you just gotta get it in if you feel it is worth it. Just put in the time, and man, you'll get it.

stick forever, but i can see the trend shifting, with 2xko coming out, alot of new gen player will pick up leverless over stick

that is a good point, for something coming from smash and using a gamepad for 15 + yrs, thats says something about stick

they both are great, i think both have pros and cons, its just not for me unfortunately , thank you for watching

lol its cool, i dont mind it, more toys for us ♥🙏

Can you explain more, i would love to hear your input ❤️🙏 for the obs 1