Tbh, everytime I hard carry as sup I get flamed, adc just want sup that die for them and delivers kills on a silver platter, anything else they deemed unacceptable.
Yup I see a lot of deranged ADC Ego now days... The worst ones expect you to handhold them all game because theyre the best and you should be grateful you have them to carry you lols. Worst ive seen in the past month was an adc who went full psycho after dying like 4 times in 10 mins because he kept being fully out of position. Like im helping jungler take grubs, we kill their top, mid, and jung and they die trying to kill the enemy bot next to their tower blaming me for not being there. Out of left field in broken english all I see is "Youre a low IQ pig, head over to Walmart buy a shotgun put it in your mouth and pull the trigger because youre worthless and dont deserve to breathe." It was lovely watching a pop up appear a few games later which I could only presume they got muted or banned. Top and mid spiraled so hard from the roams they couldnt be touched and the 3 honors solidified a correct decision after we won.
its the average adc. easiest role to climb with in d1+ but all of them having the mentality of children holds them back to be as shit as they are. they are mechanically and fundamentally the worst players of every match.
@@Dronacharya-ki6mx That's the face of League of Legends around Bronze - Gold Ranks, every match there's at least one troll / tilter in the game, and the one who calls them out [usually me] always gets looked at even more; as an example, a teammate is toxic; I type "XYZ Is Toxic." and everyone suddenly wants to report me too. LOL. i used to do that a lot to get these toxic players out of the community but, it doesn't seem to work, since, I end up being looked upon. lol. so i stopped doing that, i just report and it works either way.
@@BonkMasterFlex Has nothing to do with how I feel about it, I just think the guy's a douche who pretends to be a cool, smooth, charming guy when he's actually a self-important asshole who doesn't waste an opportunity to claim to be the best Senna (somewhere). Meanwhile, imagine you being so quick to defend him when you're probably low ranked and he's just told you what he thinks of you.
@@AWPPERMoon1 I'm not sure I understand you my friend... Are you denying that ADC has weak survivability and therefore needs some peel (usually from support) ?
@@Elimbi1different ADCs require different supports. Twitch/Aphelios love enchanters. Ashe/Kalista loves Hyper Tanks like Braum/Rell, while Draven/Ezreal need Nautilus/Pyke/Thresh
genuinely impressive the riffs on Hey There Delilah off the top of your head. Also, I love "GOOD THING U BROUGHT GHOST" and like... you get jungle gnaked, flashed, ulted, 3v2'd... GHOST SAVES YOUR LIFE, AND LETS YOU GUYS GO 2-0 ON *THEIR GANK*... then she RUNS IN, SUICIDES, AND BLAMES YOU XDDDD
Support is hands-down either the toughest or second-toughest role to me. The other being jungle. Everything goes right? "Stay in the shadows like a good little helper, would ya?" Everything goes even SLIGHTLY bad? "This moron to my left must be colorblind, can't tell wards apart, only healed me for ninety-nine percent of my health, shielded me seven times, and I still died. Absolute dog water." Damned if you do...
there are just as many toxic supports who blame the adc for EVERYTHING even if they played perfectly to the extend they could as there are adc's who blame their supports. Same goes to jungler who blame every lane for not rotating for a horrible invade, drake decision or simply horendous timed ganks as there are ppl who blame the jungler for not basicly winning the lane for them. There isnt a role who has a substantially bigger portion of players with an angel like mindset as the rest, stop the cap. League has one of the most toxic communitys and there arent roles who dont meet that criteria. Obviously there are exceptions who dont flame and one of them might be you and since you play both of those roles (atleast it sounds like that from your comment) its normal for ur experience to be somewhat distorted. Even L0ki, even tho he seems cool and collected here, has a couple of clips (with a samira for example) where he might be roaming and giving his team some kills, but at the probably worst timings he could ever have for his adc (the same would be easily doable without selling his adc for less than a dollar) and is mocking him after what is unnecessary toxic, even tho his decision made the game unplayable for the samira and her understandably frustrated. All i wanna say with that is, that even the worst nightmare of a player CAN have a good game where he stays calm and you might had them on one of those games in ur team urself so stop victimice those said roles.
League isn't tough its complicated. Playing as a team with a bunch of narcissists is tough. Its certainly not particular difficult to play as support. Its difficult to please or carry your team. You can literally smurf and play a jungle or a support game way cleaner than your team does and still get flamed. The lower the ranked the more delusional your teammates become. I got ping spammed as a jungler from a toplaner dying twice before I finished even my third camp on the other side of the map. I had to learn to ignore my teams bs calls to climb again. I got baited way to often into coinflips, ignoring my jgl and objectives and in the end just increasing the enemies lead. Playing bot with a random is difficult due to communication, but its easier for the support since they don't need to last hit.
@@nostalji93 no bot is not easier for the support. yes the ydont have to last hit but they are the ones that dictate the pace of the lane and give the adc the space to last hit for example. they have to have to whole lane in mind where as the adc "only" has to hit a few minions^^
Ashe, went in when they have everything: Fcking worthless support not going in Also Ashe when enemies are slowed, rooted, low hp: Nah im gonna complain, farm and ping
You really found the nicest way to get rid of negativity despite this ashe was somehow "ghosting' you and 'limit testing' your best mood that day. I mean, its hard not to react in chat. Your mental was how it should be in order to win the game. Jax saw that and backed you. But since we are humans, it is not easy to be like this every day every game. You did really well, specially when you said 'we got this'. And nice song btw. You should do this more often ;)
Ashe was mad because she got a Senna support with ghost, which means she is never going to be the main character, you are, so she hates you for it, because she picked ADC to be the main character, the VIP of the team, at least that's what her comment about "you picked ghost to win game not us" told me, she wanted to win late and you let her carry
Yep agree 100%, these flaming ADC's just want to be the main character and hate it when their support outshines them. But when they do outshine the support they will also find reason to flame them for being bad anyway. They just wanna feel badass while flaming everyone else IMO. I hate playing with these people.
Well, it is obvious why Ashe was pissed! They Queued up thinking they were the main character, and Ghost Senna turned him into an NPC 😅 And not even a good NPC, but like the guy at the edge of town who tells you where you can buy good pies…
THats what I got fro mthe "You chose ghost so you can win not us". Ergo Ashe wanted to be the main character and was denied, so could only cry about it
try top lane, every top lane main knows that adc is cry baby we died to gank, enemy win top, is our fault, while our bot still lose with jungler's help
Exactly this. They believe the support is there for them solely. You must follow them everywhere, except you have to find the perfect few seconds to walk away and ward for them because their game sense is terrible and just pinging dangerous isn't good enough. You also have to tank/CC/heal/peel for them all game so they can just right click without a care in the world.
The very reason why I left LOL. It is one of the most toxic games Ive ever played. Cant count how often I was told to die or that my family should die due to cancer.
it's usually 2 things: the support pushes the whole wave and denies the adc exp which sucks (but you said last hit, so) OR they watched someone talk about wave control and thought it was cool af but didnt really understand shit about it and want to be loud so they seem smarter.
Ahes is the perfect example of a low ranked person who loves to overextend while you play as aggresiv as possible while giving the enemies the respect they deserve so you dont get cought out. Perfect display of differnece in skill.
i really like ur mindset in how not to get tilted from your adc, even though she flames and pings u all game long... wonder how u do that ... and u are giving so much information all the time.. i went from s4 to d4 from watching ur vods several years ago... great content
Supports come in many flavors. As someone who plays both League and Overwatch, mains support in OW, and has played League for 12 years at this point, it is easy to recognize what a good support can do. In League: Supports are not there to benefit just one person. Yes, you are in a duo-lane with your ADC, but that does not mean you are a babysitter. The support can double as a healer, as well as being a secondary damage dealer, in addition to having more options for CC. The support player is free to roam the map if that means they will provide substantial benefits for the team, like warding around and securing objectives, securing kills in lanes, and picking up after a fight, like pushing a wave that would otherwise be frozen in a bad position, basically denying the enemy gold. In Overwatch: Supports are generally healers, or have a way to heal other players passively, but many supports are also good at dealing damage and provide team buffs or enemy de-buffs. A good support player in Overwatch is generally omni-present, and always there for their team. A support player can often do more damage than the DPS carries, if that means they will secure the win.
@@atrain-wr9je there have been a bunch of times on some supports where it’s been solid… Sona is a common one that benefits from it a lot… by solid, I mean highest wr summoner, not just competitive
I hadn't subscribed, but I gladly did after this video. I have severe PTSD with toxic players since League released after beta testing. I only play ARAM now for the past 5 years, or rotating game modes. Have never touched a normal PVP game since then. Haven't touched ranked for 8 years. Never plan to ever again.
The level of delusion so many players in league have about their own ability compared to everyone else is insane. Imagine playing this game and being so miserable the entire time.
Oh god, this is giving flashbacks. I dated a guy who wanted me to play support in League for him, he was plat like 2 seasons before we played - me as a newbie to League, he as a hardstuck gold 4 player. He flamed me like this every game while saying how much better his gold support is than me. Some adcs are a plague on this earth. But thanks to him, I'm always happy playing with a non flaming adc. And my in game mental is quite high too!
Aside from the toxic attitude, you know what his misconception is? He treats the game as an RPG and misses the fact it's a competitive MOBA. His mind is permanently stuck in the strategically incorrect idea that "support" means that the playstyle must be strictly supportive, which is a concept that often applies to MMORPG support classes. It also kind of applied in the first 3 seasons of LoL but only for the reason that there are only 4 sources of income, so one player should play a gold starved ward slave, and the only champions that were viable with no gold were utility characters. The "ghost is the wrong spell" has no thought behind it apart from him not seeing it picked often in his pisslow games and he confuses popularity viability.
Adcs be like: oh my god my support didnt heal me for 200% of my health, didnt deal enough dmg with flash and cant give me all him stats? Literly worst support in league, how even you have brain?
I had a friend like Ashe a while back. Got locked in a little room under the cellar and treated like garbage. Never recovered. Said very similar things in LOL Chat too. I feel for Ashe. Needs to find a forever home and mend. lol
It's mini-game time! Lost souls counter: i0ki lost 37 souls at: 0:30, 1:15, 3:05, 4:50, 6:24, 8:50, 10:58, 11:06, 12:45, 15:09, 16:25 (×3), 17:36, 19:03 (×3), 19:10, 19:15, 20:55, 21:25, 23:18, 24:00, 24:05, 25:15 (×2), 26:28 (×2), 26:35, 28:25, 29:30, 30:25 (×3), 30:45 and 30:52 (×2). Did I miss any lost soul? Let me know! Also, thanks for the game and comedy content within. Ashe should change the name to Silver Timmy XD (All hail Silver Timmy)
I'm DEAD 🤣Ashe standing still in fights, flashing into faces, challenging when miles behind, then immediately looking for Ioki on the map to spam ping... this is gold, I wish I got snacks 👌 22:34 "I wish bot would, close - their god damn mouth..." 😂
I love it when I play Bard support that I can't leave my adc alone for one second and roam to collect my thingys while also using the roam and ganking midlane while I'm moving down the river and the situation is given. Somehow the adc manages to just walk up to the enemy and die, it's like they be needing constant babysitting.
I swear League would be 90% less toxic if there wasn't a duo lane. So many downward spirals of toxicity starts from a disagreement between support and ad and it only takes one of them being unreasonable to nuke the whole game.
Adcs like to feel like main characters, when you take ghost his fragile ego was scared you'll out-carry him and he won't be the most important person in the game
I haven't really been playing lately, but this game is a reminder why I never play alone as a support for sure. Thankfully with item changes Jungle Morgana is now really strong and I can play her there.
ioki right about Ghost, and the senna pick both, busted champ that does the Adcs job while supporting, he gave the gold to his support ashe and still carried. The problem is, he fucking PLAYED like Ashe was support from minute one. If you have healing, and it might save the Ad, THEN THATS WHERE YOU PUT IT
yep that's what it looked like to me. He was playing like ashe was the support, and I understand that might secure the game for them, but that wasn't the agreement. he literally waited at 3:18 to last hit kogmaw and KS. and he doesn't heal the ashe. And exhaust would've saved his adc multiple times there. I understand this is his way of securing the win, but this is a game and people play to have fun as well as win. Ashe wasn't having fun, therefore half the deal is gone.
@@nawra77 Well said actually. But I as a Dota player can immediately tell this is the trend in league the culture here is pretty shitty. Where I come from my main role was called OffLane, or position 3, also known as Farm priority 3. Mid being 2 and the carry being 1. We NUMBER our roles by farm priority. And instead of having a jg we play our lanes 2-1-2 with two supports. And thats not all. If we think they need it, we put BOTH supports in lane with the carry and my job becomes to lane 1v2 or 1v3 so that our carry has enough help to keep up with the pace we expect the game to move at. I repeat. MY ROLE, was to 1v3 starting at minute one, if we were going to need our carry to come online quickly. To this day I am PROUD of the work I did in those games but League just. You guys play so selfish. Its no wonder everyone hates playing Adc in league. The role is DESIGNED to need help Mobas are DESIGNED as a holy trinity, but Riot cant put that into words and so league culture is so selfish. Whatever though. Il just be here playing Ornn top so I can TP bot and noone will say shit because thats how ALL Ornn players agree he has the most impact. Playing with the carry in mind because jg players, mid players, and now not even fucking support players will. They all leave and flame the Adc because their role is DESIGNED to need help. Shitty culture, I0ki's success is proof of that, and it makes me sad.
@@MIchaelElsager There are a lot of supports that get too much free shit. Compare the support item and the gold pyke gets for ulting people to, lets say TF passive where he gets extra gold, or to First Strike gold. Supports are getting so much free shit they can just pick assassians and Adcs as sup. Its not really iokis fault it exists but he is getting free wins because support scales.
The song :'D Well played, man! Great vid! Definitely been flamed on a carry supp. I play Ali a lot on Wild Rift and I have a favorite "aura style" build I call Moo Time (of course Cow Ali skin). Sunfire, Searing Crown, Abyssal Mask, Thornmail, Zeke's; they burn touching me as I laugh w/ damage reduction, easy enough. Apparently 5-man cc chains, while focusing to peel, and a massively positive KDA is troll when my ADC dives 3v1 and I don't chase them... Thanks for all the learning content. I've become my own demon with Pyke in Wild Rift (play mobile more than PC due to convenience). He's mechanically different with flash hooks and stuff, but the game sense is the same. My execute is always there when you need it - supp should always roam!
10:26 The Delilah song was the cherry on top Really sad though that toxic and miserable people like Ashe don't get punished the way they should be and that is due to the automation of the report system. Still remember the Tribunal from the early seasons which was actually effective against that kind of toxicity. Anyways you handled that like a champ, kudos to you for keeping your cool!
as someone who only plays Teemo and Senna, movement speed is BY FAR the most important stat in the game. I dont always take ghost but definitely boots of swiftness every game and sometimes ghost too when I'm adc, support or mid (gotta take ignite on top teemo tho)
I feel you so much, when I mained senna i was one of the top 300 sennas on server and still sometimes i get those shitty adcs they thinks its my fault theyre bad. xdd
Helping someone that doesn´t want to be helped is the same as teaching someone that doesn´t want to be taught, it will never work out, save your energy for who really deserve it, cheers!
I haven't seen a rage baby ADC in so long, I swear. This was quite shocking. Maybe it's also because I mostly play ADC now just so I don't have to. I just shut up and play and let my support do what they do. If no one's peeling I just stand waaaaay back in the next fight. No reason to cry to people about ADC problems lol
Funny, just yesterday, I was playing support Senna with an Ashe ADC and she kept flamming me. We ended up winning, her with a 4/7/5 score and me with a 17/3/14 score. Yet, she was still asking people to report me at the end of the game for being a terrible player.
