Toxicity Tierlist with Cope | Dead by Daylight 

Ideas: Dropping items for other players Bringing last survivor to hatch Visiting streamer after game and complimenting them Helping killer when a teammate is cheating

@@gleeetenderers7926 -seeing someone being sandbagged and not using that to your advantage but rather go for the sandbagger -helping others to get their achievement -as a killer, letting someone finish their glyph before hitting them

going easier on the remaining survivors when 2 or 3 others dc from the match?

Best DBD wholesome in game memes list

@@gleeetenderers7926 boop the snoot

As long as Vittorio is in S tier.

Fabio hair Felix is pretty S-tier

Bald Dwight is 404 Tier- Hair Not Found

and i'll still fucking watch his 20-hour-video about that

Laurie Vittorio and Mikaela win

Keeping it real, I can respect that hahaha. I feel like most of us have done at least half of these things by accident if not on purpose. Many times likely out of frustration.

@@haiz768 109 more people care about their comment than yours rn soooo

@@haiz768 The dedication, zamn

@@haiz768 What a pathetic little life you must have.

@@shirokku3279 oh my goodness, the number of times I accidentally T-bagged the killer mid-chase because I hit the wrong key in a panic 🙃 always feel bad about that.

honestly i think its pretty funny when a killer just spams M1 at the hook XD

@@Helena-me6mp i do that when i get teabagged lul teabag again you little shit while slashing

@@suricatal XD same

The other day I had to bleed out a full squad that was all going boil over and sabo 😭. Still if u don't want me to hook y'all I won't (I couldn't).

I disagree with clicking flashlights, I personally do it for fun not as BM, it’s not something that should be toxic

Private messages: Hold my beer 😭

I had to turn off messages because of how many toxic messages I would get. And I’ve been around the block. MW2 chat lobbies, never got messages outside of it. Trolling infected CoD Ghosts matches, didn’t get too many. I played maybe 20 hours of killer, with cross play on, and I got more toxic messages outside of the game than any other time I’ve played a multiplayer game.

Def nothing like getting called Satan through a message that also goes to your phone app 😮‍💨

As a PC player with crossplay on, I've found some really fast typers on console xD I'd be going "gg", haven't gotten to push Enter yet and there's already a 1000 word paragraph from a survivor detailing the precise position and implements with which I should go fuck myself.

@@shirokku3279 And how are they messaging you cause console doesn't have end game chat

Yeah, it's like Cope was aggressively against acknowledging some people's bad behavior. Like, if people behaved that way if I invited over to my house to play boardgames, I'd never invite them back. And Cope would be there like "Dude all he did was brag and jeer everyone all game. It's fine."

@@ZTGallagher Its a videogame, not real life though. If they did it in person, then yeah it'd be more disrespectful.

@@arshadzaidi4667 That's always been a poor excuse to me. We play video games in real life. It's not computers playing against each other. I, as a person, still have to deal with their behavior, as a person.

@@ZTGallagher I'm glad someone else thinks this. I never understood the logic that the means of communication somehow affects the severity of what is being communicated. I have unironically met people who defend people telling each other to commit "sewer slide" under the pretense of "Bro it's just an end game chat lol it's fine". Or "Well that's his twitch chat he can say whatever he wants freedom of speech". Like take Uno. A game you can play both in person and online. If I play a Draw 4 on the same friend, once in person and once online, it's suddenly ok (Or at least not as bad) for him to call me slurs online? Like in person it's bad but online he can call me a slur? He's calling me the same thing all the same and it's just as insulting all the same. But no we always just tell the side being harrassed to grow thicker skin. We tell people to just "deal with it" but don't encourage the other side to be better.

@@arshadzaidi4667 and that is exactly the piss poor way of thinking that causes people to act like assholes online. It is a real life communication...not sure what reality you live in but players do not stop being real people in video games.

Lmfao that's such a good one 😭💀

Almost as evil as "I hope every pillow you ever lay your head on at night is steamy hot"

I do enjoy the creative ones

Exactly, the intention behind it is what makes it bad. Kind of what baffled me when they put hard tunnelling in “not nice” whilst putting tbagging in “fine”, when most players are just tbagging to try to rub it in and piss someone off, it doesn’t really serve any purpose outside of that, where as tunnelling is a legitimate strategy, otz even does it in some of his games like when he’s had a rough game or the survivors have brought strong stuff and he’s in a rough spot. So a bit weird tbagging got ranked as less toxic, when most people are doing it literally just to be toxic in this game, as opposed to a situational strategy.

nah its rude stfu

Probably a coincidence which is sad tbh

There is always a killer being tbagged somewhere on Earth at all times

ehhh, this is why i just don't go to exit gates anymore. never worth it :D

"Hi friends this is otz, I'm living inside your walls."

@@martasudrabina2900 -Starts running bloodwarden to counter people t bagging in exit gates - not running anything to allow 1-hit killing people so can’t do anything to down healthy survivors in exit gates -bloodwarden outlines survivors in exit gates aura, allows you to see them t-bagging It’s that easy 😎

I've been watching this guy for almost 6 years now and I only started playing the game 4 months ago lol

you are welcome in the fog if you ever decide to play :)

You are too kind my friend.

Me too bud his videos are so entertaining.

Wow really? I wonder what it feels like to only know the game through this medium.

Mmr stops that from happening

@@SrMadru mmr doesn't work most of the time so yeah he get that point

@@SrMadru its happen to my friend hes new to dbd and get sabo squad that made him dc

@@flenx4383 we both have different experiences clearly but i made a new account (not smurfing, lost the old one) and 50 hours in i have not run into bully squads

Hey your name matches my pfp! Yes, I was definitely discouraged after being bullied and giving up as killer, only to have the survivors do no gens for quite a while and just try to harass me to get a reaction while afk. When I play, I try to keep in mind the experience of the other side, so no full face camping or bleeding out, and no excessive bullying. Never really been in a swf that was able to get away with bullying like that (and not high enough skill to pull it off), but if I see that the killer is getting discouraged and having a hard time, I'll go easier on them. Love the idea of helping the killer take out a cheating survivor. Ayrun did a video recently where he had a bully squad take on a poor bubba. After harassing him and goofing off for 45 min, bubba got at least a 3k and got to rancor mori a guy. If I was gonna do some stupid mechanics, I'd want to let the killer have me at the end of it as compensation for the silly antics.

Being mean in twitch chat: Mortal Sin Fully denying someone's ability to play the game by facecamping as Cannibal: erm.... not nice I guess bordering on fine

I dont know much about Cope but I really did not enjoy his presence or opinion in this vid. He seems burnt out!

@@Prophet_Isaiah yeah I felt the same. Or maybe he felt his play style was being called out because he seemed to defend things like tunneling and camping. I’m not familiar with his play style at all so idk, but yeah. That’s what I took from it.

@@danikamcleod707 He's a survivor main with like 8k hours or something. Honestly haven't watched any of his stuff but checked him out cause he was in a 1v1 video made by Otz and he lost him lol

I'm really not okay with the bully squads being into "Not Okay". I barely play killer because I'm too afraid of seeing these men, I swear they deserve a worse category than only "Not Okay"...

I care.

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@@nicholasrodriguez1772 bot

@@thedutywarlord264 definitely

Can you see that you can’t get picked up? I don’t play DbD so I’m not sure if I would realize it if it would happen to me and maybe some players just don’t know about it and think the killer just doesn’t want to pick them up.

@@gwennygrausamt As a survivor you can't know for sure if you're in a spot the killer can't get you but you should notice the killer walk around a little to try to get in a position to pickup especially if they're looking down at you and not forward as if looking for other survivors. But also yea a new survivor player may not know that kind of exploit exists, you're right.

If they just run to where I can't hook them, fine. I'll leave their ass on the ground and now a team mate has to bale you out or you gotta burn an unbreakable.

Sometimes uou do literally get stuck. I've been stuck in a wall a couple of times

i mean filters are okay legit i have to use them to see something because my eyes are bad so it's just to be able to see normally the nvidia setting are totally okay

Yeah they're too politicley correct and forget they care less than the avg player cause first and for most they make money out of it.

@@FailToilet What are you fucking on about?

@@FailToilet I mean these two are extremely good at the game. They’re ranking these in the order they see fit. Not for the average player.

I think ‘anti-fun perks’ aren’t actually ‘anti-fun’, they’re just uno reverses of fun lol, so i would have put them in the ‘good’ category. Typically the “fun” that survivors would try to go for, would be unfun for the killer, just like the “anti-fun” perks are unfun for the survivor. It’s fair-game

Yeah it's just disrespectful, and kills any sort of "immersion" you may have that this is still a horror game. Also I hate the justification of "oh I'm not doing it to be mean it's just fun to press ctrl." Pretty insulting to others intelligence to say such a stupid lie.

@@Greenleaf_ True, no one ever complains about pressing ctrl to teammates. That's different from teabagging which is done at the opponent, idk why people have a hard time separating ctrl ctrl "heal me" and ctrl ctrl "f u killer."

​@@DalekSquirrel ya then you also got the people that will tea bag at the exit gate till the very last second of the timer and then say "its just me saying good bye and gg" I just image all 30 of those crouches being its own "gg" and someone just repeating "gg,gg,gg,gg....." Over and over again.

@@Greenleaf_ it's such a damn lie, "oh yea i'm flipping off the opposing team and gesturing at my genitals to say gg and have a little fun hehehe"

Its just taunting, aka showing off to the other side that they failed to kill you, literally nothing wrong with that

im like fine with that too but if u really just builled the F out of me the whole game. Like come on dont ruin my day even more its like, i had a tough game let it be and just leave. u know ^^

@@ShaadeGaming yep, that’s what I mean

just force them out and dont take it personally

@@lesarXD or dont go the exitgate. I mean if you clearly lost without any chance of getting someone i dont need to go there to watch them leave. i can sit the timer on my phone. Everybody hates losing, but i dont have to indulge them. And suddenly its way less worse

It is fine, just ignore them and move on to the next game

I think its just some major disrespect to the other side that isn't necessary. Imagine a basketball match where one side is clearly winning but each time the winning team throws a hoop they openly mock the loosing team and rub it in their faces how much they suck. Like, if you are simply better at the game and playing to your full capacity, good for you, but no reason to be a dick about it.

It's annoying and bad sportsmanship behavior imo, is it going to absolutely ruin my day? No but it's the equivalent of spitting on the ground while playing a sport, or not handshaking at the end if a Soccer game...it's just pointless and rude. It's use is 100% from juicers and 1000+ hour players looping players and teabagging after a pallet stun or vaulting a windowed. Cope really had nothing of value to say why it isn't considered bad or rude behavior. Was such a half-assed response and imo, it's absolutely the gateway to more toxic shit ppl can do towards other players. Wonder of he teabags Killers or not...

The funny part is the ones Tbagging will also be the DC if they are first down

@@haiz768 havin a bad day? On a video about toxicity you decide to find a comment that triggers your reptile brain to be a bozo. Lol get a life and leave other ppl alone. No one cares you have a bad life and want to lash out at others because your an insecure clown.

I care. Good job, the satisfactory kill is always the best

@@haiz768 do you copy and paste that message for every comment?

@@haiz768 why are you being the way you are, why do you have to choose to try to hurt others that you don't even know, is it attention you want?

@@haiz768 Well you're a pretty sad person an a nuisance to planet earth and I wish you don't reproduce, good day

@@haiz768 I mean apparently you did enough to take the time to reply/comment 😂

@@MokiHunter I’ve seen them on other comments I think it might be a bot

@@sacrificiallamb4089 probably just a fatherless 12 yr fapping all day on femboys

Cope was obtuse at times.

Pretty he was just saying it to make things clear to the audience and make things abundantly clear. I think he went a bit overboard, but I don't think he was doing it maliciously or anything like that.

Fair, but he's just less bothered by those things and those are his genuine opinions from his experiences. It's a good thing to have people be so tilt proof

@@cosmicdust2668 True, I think it's good that he's more tolerant to those things and I don't have a problem with that. It just felt like he was focusing on the best case scenarios a bit too much in a tierlist about toxicity, y'know?

@@geekachu1519 agreed

@@cosmicdust2668 He's a survivor main though isnt he? Idk much about the guy so I dont like being too negative but to me it just seemed like he was part of the problem so he cant say anything about it.

@@haiz768 Did I ask you if I cared? No? Frequent attention seeking is a common sign of lacking a father figure.

@@Weskin_Time775 LMAO

Especially with the gripper pfp 💀bros weird

@@Weskin_Time775 this is SO fucking funny (ur comeback)

@@Weskin_Time775 No reason to respond to a troll lol. You're giving them the attention they want.

Gardens corners is beyond impossible to see anything if u have the right costmetic xD

@@ShaadeGaming just play blendette and die to end game collapse for the realism of being a map object

omg same! like I get for atmosphere reasons some maps are really dark but the amount of times ive fumbled a chase cuz I couldn't see scratch marks or got caught on something is ridiculous

Lol

LMAOOO

yea, it can be tough. but remember that it's never personal and if someone is really being mean, they're just having a bad day and are letting it out in a game. there's always another, nicer lobby just around the corner

@@notleonskennedy "it's never personal" laughs in DM's

i usually get bored with the bully squads. personally its annoying for like a minute until I realize what's happening. honestly the best thing you can do is just walk away.

Love otzs opinions but i also love seeing someone stand by their own opinion. After all its just opinions not facts

what a nice thing to say

@@haiz768 bro is actually saying that he "doesn't care" on a bunch of different comments. Irony is cool 😎

No way man, he sounded so entitled especially when talking about Twitch ranting.

I initally thought that too, but I think they kept thinking of the pre-egc example - the survivor can hold the game hostage for much longer - the killer can bleed you out only until you die. we now do have the egc so I think comparing those examples is not really fair. since you can't avoid the egc without hacking I think both are rude, but not really bannable

@@kasjomis Yeah, I think that's fair. Getting bled out honestly doesn't bother me that much when I'm playing solo queue, it really only bothers me when I'm playing with friends and they have to wait on me, haha. Though I had the funniest game the other day! No joke, the killer bled me out at the end because I used pallets in chase 😂🤣

bleeding out is rare imo. I've only experienced it a couple of times as a survivor and that was because the person was slugging. I've only done it twice as a killer and that was only because it was a 4 man swf who were being toxic the entire game. The thing about hiding forever, is just that. There is no timer. I've seen plenty of duos that hide forever before the egc even happens. On big maps that have plenty of lockers, finding someone can take ages.

@@WutTheDeuceGaming Either you're lucky or I'm really unlucky! I run into bleeding out all the time, honestly. I had one day where killers would either bleed me/the entire team out, just all day long. I don't even do anything considered toxic either. I don't teabag, point, anything. Worst I do is maybe stare at the killer across the pallet/window? Lmao

I've had like 5 games this week where i was last survivor and all other teammates dead, bled out. At first, I thought they were giving me hatch but then they bleed me out and hook me last second. It usually happens when i loop the killer a bunch.

Remove map offerings, don't know why it's not already done (and balance the maps)

I mean, what people label as a "Bully" Squad is what Otz & Cope talked about. There are actual bully squads whos objectives are just to upset the killer but honestly, people will and do label 4-man SWFs who are just trying to do goofy stuff as bully squads a lot, which is what Otz & Cope were discussing. At least thats my take on it.

@@MythicTF2 Exactly. Groups of people trying to screw around with weird builds are often called bully squads and lumped in with the more toxic people, but they aren’t doing anything wrong. I think they’re fun to play against too, since it forces me to adapt to strategies I’m not used to.

@@MythicTF2 annoying builds is not the only thing that makes a squad «bully». Bу itself build falls into «Anti-fun perks», which is not that bad

My guy the majority of bullysquads are swfs who are playing for fun not wins. Just because people have different playstyles doesn't mean they are legitimate bullies. It's not offensive at all Otz and Cope already went over how some are genuinely toxic but most of it is just 16 year olds getting flashlight saves and spins, who'll die anyway. There is no intended offence to the Killer, that's just how Killers end up perceiving it because they're very aggressive Survivors Killers aren't use to. I've literally made friends with people who 'bullied' me before. They're just good players.

​@@ByAzuraByAzuraByAzura I have to agree, that IF we define «bullysquads» the same way as Otz and Cope, it's not that evil. It's just me never defining bullysquad this way. I met SWF who stunlocked me but never teabagged or mocked the other way, and we had a really nice chat after the game... For me, bullysquad is just SFW bullies, and their bullying may combine any sins from this video

I finally got it last night after like 3000 bloodwebs to get tombstone add on and fighting for my life to get it - and then yup, it didn’t trigger. Almost threw my monitor and myself out the window and I really don’t get tilted that often

@@EG1717 Yeah, that was freaking painful >.> know exactly how that feels

you can use enduring, its much harder for them to deny. just be a bit patient

@@karesz23 how does Enduring (getting 50% less stun time on pallet stuns) help on survivors hiding in lockers to not be hit by t3 myers kill? 🤔 EDIT: or on the achievement not triggering because the trigger between game and steam is broken?

@@ABSEUDUS i mean if they hide in a locker you can carry them away, and catch up to them after they wiggle out before they get in the next locker

your favorite color of otz video? what?

@@squidbad this one is tierlist colored. what do you mean?

It’s my favourite flavour of video too

I personally prefer the gameplay flavor but thats probably because I dont play anymore and have stopped "needing" to know whats meta

like every game is like this for me. Its so rare to have a normal game without feng mins looping for 5min each and teabag inbetween every pallet drop. Its so unfun. Idk how people like Otz can play killer this often id get too salty eventually just uninstall lol. I feel like the balance between actually sweatting vs "just having fun" radically drops as soon as u played a few games of dbd. Right off, ur into a high mmr lobby when u have less than 50 hours which is so unfair. Atleast seperate game modes so u can have a more "fun" mode vs the "comp" mode and the "bully around" type of mode. The devs could really do something. I know people dont change but the game can and make it so much healthier

@@ShaadeGaming i mean i play a lot of low mmr since i like billy but still suck with him xD. People who tend to bully are very few. I went against 2 teams which did the last second swap. At all. In 300 h killer xD. I play more survivor. Sure there are people which can run you forever if you are a new player. But most of the time the other 3 are not. Chase them. Part of winning is to get which feng can run you for 5mins. And who can not. And i find nothing funnier than to not chase the "clicker". Let him do gens. That is the one gameaspect i am sure he wont have fun with. And if i lose there with 3 hooks total i can live with that xD. Or i start meming. Although i will admit that sometimes its hard to get into that mindset.

That aspect doesnt really matter in DBD, since survivors have so many aura reading perks and after awhile of playing gain a lot of map/killer knowledge so it really isnt hard for the average survivor to often know the killers location every few seconds and know where certain things may be placed. If you played trapper and survivors constantly avoided your traps because they know you'd place them at strong looping/pallet locations, you wouldnt call them a stream sniper. And information is very easy for survivirs and killers to obtain with the use of perks

@@acetrainersylph7953 according to your logic wallhacking would be fine as well

@@Toredos_4242 lol are you dumb? Theres a difference between wallhacking (cheating) and streamsniping. One is blatantly chesting/hacking and the other is just watching a stream which isnt bannable. God this community is full of dumb idiots such as yourself who always go to the most drastic example to try and win an arguement, ignoring all sense of logic. Wallhacking is hacking and cheating and against ToS, whereas streamsniping isnt. Maybe go back to school and learn the difference? Also perhaps try touching grass and not taking a videogame way too seriously

@@acetrainersylph7953 I never said streamsniping is banable, but it is definitely not fair. Both cheat and stream are a third-party tool which can give player information he was not supposed to get in-game either so easily or at all God this community is full of agressive people triggered for no reason. Maybe go back to parents and learn some manners. Try not taking chatting with someone you don't even know so seriously

@@Toredos_4242 it's fair, someone makes the conscious choice to stream an online game knowing full well that stream sniping exists, and that anyone could possibly get in a game with them. It's not really cheating, its just a risk that streamers take. Any information gotten from stream sniping could easily be obtained from any aura reading perk (such as object of obsession) or just playing swf. But a fragile killer main like yourself would cry and say that SWF is cheating which it isnt. Like i said any information obtained from stream sniping could be gotten with SWF, Aura Perks, or just general map and killer knowledge. So if you say that streamsniping is cheating, then you're basically arguing that aura reading perks and playing with friends is cheating as well. No, streamsniping isnt the same as using a third party tool, i dont think you're dumb self even knows what "third party tool" even means, its a downloaded program that allows the user to give themself an advantage such as god mode, super speed, etc... Stream sniping does not allow the user to cheat, it just gives them information, something they can get via ingame means and map/killer knowledge. You dont have to download anything to stream snipe, let alone get any of the information that streamsniping provides. The only fragile one here is you, since you're clearly upset over the fact that someone disagrees with you and has called you out for your lack of knowledge at understanding what cheating/hacking is. I never said anything about streamsniping being bannable, just that its not cheating or hacking. You're the one comparing streamsniping to boatant cheats and hacks, which just doesnt work out. Boy arent you clever, just reusuing what i said and trying to make it into a diss. Gold star for effort, but why not try using that small brain of yours and coming up with something actually creative and unique instead of just reusing something. But then again based off your username, ya cant really expect a russian to be smart

Fr, I don’t really get the perspective, or I’m not really sure they do either or had a solid perspective or premise for the video analysis. One minute when talking about hard tunnelling they are talking about how most people think about it, or how it is for other players generally, and the next it was cope saying “I think tbagging is fine so it’s fine”. Like if you just take the perspective of and rating it by “just dont be sensitive and don’t get triggered by things” then literally everything is fine so that point is stupid. Intention is what makes things toxic or not imo and they completely missed the point of that.

Im same like cope it doesn't bother me, yea its annoying sometimes but i use it as a Dark Souls boss fight, practice my Gameplay and they mostly die because they are not doing gens

I'm gonna hard disagree with you there, I have kinda poor eyesight and with filters I can actually play the game. BHVR should find ways to improve visibility without them, though.

Nah lol.

“Itsh an exshploit and borderline cheating” 🤓🤓

Right! Especially suicide on hook is so annoying for the rest of the team, especially if it happens right on the first hook. It's no better than disconnecting right at the start, because it just leaves the others in a 3v1 they didn't ask for and doesn't give them any chancee to actually do anything about it. It's even worse if they are already actively trying to save someone, risking hits and downs and wasting precious gen time only to then see them kill themselves on hook. I think afk killers are just dumb, but not toxic. It's just like... why? We just do our gens, run around the killer, find out they don't move and leave. Not sure why people afk in the game at all, it's so pointless. (Although I have to say, for survivors I'd rather they afk than disconnect. Because at least, the killer can get his hook points still and the other survivors gain a few seconds from them getting hooked and potentially unhooked and stuff. If you don't want to actually play, at least stay and be a distraction) I'm aware that nobody asked, but since those weren't in the video I felt like mentioning this.

Yeah or talking about survivor DC to enable hatch if I didn't miss it they skipped that part.

look, that pack of teenagers making fun of fat and ugly people in the street is a good thing cause they are having fun, it's fine

That was mostly cope saying it

@@wolfshadowshy oh my god don't be so dramatic this is people playing a video game not actually harassing people in real life

@@dictatorshiki look, this is the kind of thing that parents should be explaining to their kids and shouldn’t be the job of random strangers on the internet, but when you’re playing video games online, those are all real people you’re interacting with

@@wolfshadowshy ya and playing the game is not the same as verbally attacking and harassing someone. swfs that use all the best items n play in an annoying way aren't nice but thats not actual bullying, even if theyre called "bully squads." dont be dense

Body blocking is a legit strat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. The only way it becomes a problem is holding others hostage. Trapping people in corners all game and what not.

@@cryingchild6996 exactly. i just thought about it because i regularly see people (mainly killers) complain about it

Yep I always bodyblock the first survivor I find in a corner (doesn't happen often) to secure a kill once end game collapse is over while it doesn't matter if we are at 0 gens or 5 gens. Dunno why people have issues with body blocking.

Cope is a survivor main with 10k hours….

Wait

do you also pair it with a verb "seethe" by any chance?

Killer main here. I tend to give hatch to a surv who got me good, or had a great run. The exception is if a surv makes a good play, then proceeds to be a clicky, t bagging crouching assfor the remainder of the game. Then I make it a mission to deny hatch to that surv

Same, I would straight up put "full facecamping" in bannable with no second thought

In the case of the myers achievement, even if you don't know that you're denying the achievement, you're still just being annoying. Like getting grabbed out of a a locker instead of killed as last survivor isn't going to give you a chance of escaping lol, you're just denying the satisfaction of a perfect finish for the killer because you're pressed that you lost.

@LazerAx9 I'm ngl. Tombstone pretty much denies everyone of fun but the killer. There's really not a chase. Just staring and doing gens then people start dying around 1 gen left. It's the most boring kinda game unless you're the killer. I can't say I blame people for denying the killer satisfaction when they've sat through a boring and unsatisfying experience with little to no BP reward.

tbh I don't make good use of my tools or heals for the most part. but if a killer uses Franklin's I am going to rummage through every chest and slow the match to a crawl

@Makoryuko queue I've found that tunnelling handles medkits better

Franklin's is annoying for the survivors but that's about it. Me personally, I generally will only bring in a brown medkit or maybe a yellow (but that's because I'm a hoarder and like to save rare stuff for some reason). So to me franklin's is just "sorry, you don't get a survivor power" which fair. It's just annoying. I think Franklin's is fine and I'd argue these "anti-fun" perks ARE good for the game, albeit annoying to deal with. Since the worst part is when a killer will slap you JUST to remove the medkit from your hand then leave you to go slap out another item, therefore making the rest of the medkit useless outside of altruistic heals. (I also think item rarities should be physically visible on the item but that's a different thing) I think to make it less annoying but still keeping it powerful it'd be nice to nerf it's charge loss factor but make it also work with special attacks. -After 20 seconds, the item will start to lose all its charges over the course of the rest of it's timer +Any attack on the survivor causes them to drop their items

@@dizzylilthing “but… but tunnelling is bad!! And 3 medkits is fine!! Only I can have fun, not the killer!! Bad game!!”: every survivor main

me bringing built to last with a medkit 🤓

I never got people who will put ttv in their name and then get mad when people in the game come to their stream. They're advertising their stream but at the same time don't expect people to show up? Makes no sense, lol.

@@minkcell7509 right but I didn’t even notice it was a ttv until midway into the match I definitely wasn’t stream sniping someone with 5 viewers I’m not trying to make fun of him but yeah

Bully behavior excused by ppl who either bully others or never been on the receiving end of bullying in life. It's like being picked on at school ND the teacher going "it isn't harming you, it's just a joke" and it's like riiiight, so the intention to try to upset someone and make them the butt of jokes isn't seen as toxic? *eye roll*

@@nikkis.2066 Exactly.

I agree. It feels this is disregarded because it is an online interaction they use that anonymity to dehumanize the other person. Whether it is taunting/bullying behavior or other toxic interactions, not just in dbd or online games but in general. To disregard someone’s feelings on the matter is no better than doing it in person when someone antagonizes/bullies someone else. You never know what that person has went through or is going through, intentionally trying to “rub it in” especially when they did nothing wrong can still push them into a bad place emotionally even if it is “just a game”.

Probably cause a lot of people grew up playing games like Halo. Personally I don't mind t bagging hell I enjoy it. Adds a competitive aspect to the match. Like now I gotta have you or in a shooter let's go head to head for a good bit of the match. I don't T bag in dbd personally but when survivors do it to me I'm chillin and it makes the kills far more satisfying too. Also tbagging is legit a disadvantage for the survivor. If you don't allow yourself to get angry you'll see it's easier to close distance on someone who t bags then someone who stuns and then holds W immediately after.

This is the most fragile comment I’ve ever read 😂😂💀

Apparently that’s “offensive” and tbagging at exits is “fine” 🤦‍♂️. “Naughty killer extending the game unnecessarily when they’ve already won and doing things to rub it in the survivors face, that’s offensive! Oh wait, that’s exactly what the survivors are doing that we labelled as fine.”

Dbd community is atrocious lmao

@@HigherDarkness I speculate it mostly has to do with the 4v1 imbalanced formula at play, what else could cause a game to be much more toxic and spiteful than other genres?

You know there is a difference between denying achievements and tbagging right?

I think tea bagging is so context specific. Scott Jund has a really agreeable view on them, and that is that it's one of the few ways survivors can express themselves. Now, after a match where they were abusing exploits, or full meta, or intentionally harming the other side, I agree that the teabag is on par with something like slapping on the hook. Taunting when the other side has no response is ill-mannered, for sure. But in most of the cases I've seen, I feel it's more of a “friendly” communication.

I will never understand how people are fragile enough to get mad when a survivor crouches repeatedly

@@hbombdaboss97 I mean, if you take an overly reductive point of view to pretty much anything, it becomes really easy to not understand things.

@@lil_230 I mean they literally struggled to put "Bully squads" into "Not Nice" when people literally do it simply to ruin the fun of the other side. I fail to see how that is any different than say denying achievements. At the end of the day the purpose of both is to ruin the experience for someone other than yourself & not necessarily to win.