Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro vs Honda Passport Trailsport - Snowy Off-Road Battle + Real-World MPG 

Blame Honda for how they market it, especially the Trail Sport trim….

Wonder what hondas resale value will be 5 years from now vs a 4runner

@@davidzambrano9126 Worse

I wonder how that 9speed will hold up

Imagine paying 60k for a car that was made with 10 year technology and your worried about resale hahab

I also have a 2022 Honda passport TrailSport and of course it drives very smooth but off roading I haven’t tried it yet,hopefully this summer I will try it and see the results

😂 for me it’s opposite, the younger me bought fuel savers while the older me (age 46) now just bought a 4Runner 2022 for off-road purpose. :)

The 4runner would last longer honestly. My mom has a 2016 Pilot, bought in 2015... not impressed with overall quality. It ate 2 fuel injectors & a caty converter, barely under warranty. The seats are terrible, most uncomfortable seats I've ever experienced. She wanted a three row commuter, between this a Highlander and a Buick Enclave,wanted me to pick it out because I'm the family "car" guy. I chose the Honda over the Toyota... big mistake. My younger brother bought a 2017 Highlander the following year, the Toyota is the better vehicle.

I went from a tripple locked land cruiser to a passport, honestly the passport will go 90% of the same places that the cruiser would. everything except for the most extreme or huge wheel lift spots. The passport lifts a wheel sooner but the awd does a great job.

@@HandyTot People really underestimate how many places you can go with picking a good route (you don't always have to take the most extreme trail to get to a campsite or destination), picking the easiest line, some high quality tires, airing down for the conditions you'll be driving in, using some basic tools like a shovel/traction boards, and just general offroad driving experience. Of course, if off roading is your hobby this isn't for you, a BOF SUV or truck, or something like a Jeep with 2 solid axles is always gonna do that stuff better, but if you just want to get to cool places in your daily driver and you're willing to learn how your AWD system works, what the limits of your vehicle are and how to use their hardware/software systems to your advantage, many people will be well served by this current generation of more capable crossovers. I'm coming from a built GX470 and I'm now considering the new Pilot or one of the Subaru Wilderness vehicles because they seem like great daily drivers that have the capability I need for those 5 or 6 adventure trips each year.

Yeah, after a couple of years I’m of off-roading and overlanding I realised that I can go most of the places in an awd crossover. And save more fuel.

Not having a spare freaks me out. Thoughts? Or am I wrong and it DOES have one?

@@MrBootsElectrikit has a spare.

Why would you choose this over a Pilot though? They are selling at pretty similar price points and the Pilot is more roomy. I'd think that especially for families the Pilot would be the better choice bc of the additional space in the back row. I'm between both cars. Sometimes I like to go on some dirt trails in the desert, so I'm thinking if their off-road versions would work for that.

@@luperamos7307 This, I am not sure why you would go Passport over the Pilot. The Pilot is bigger, a much better steel skid plate, very slightly better HP, 10 speed transmission, a better interior and they are almost at a moot price point. Only reason I can think is that the extra size, might throw some drivers off. Had a friend who drove a car for almost his whole life, finally went mid-size SUV and hated it. He was cutting corners way to close and ended up scraping his backside multiple times. After a while, he sold it and bought a car again.

The passport is a great family vehicle and it drives BETTER than the new Pilot...I haven't tried the Pilot Trailsport, only the Touring but the Passport is better to steer.

Gas mileage less than the EPA is due to your foot.

I get 20-22 in a 4runner on mostly state highways

FWIW. Had a 2nd Gen Passport. Lived in the PNW. Couldn't lose grip even if I tried with its 4x4 system. Got decent Gas Mileage too.

You went wrong

@@CP-kb1du passport is better overall

Yup I loved that too.

Truth

Because dinosaurs are more exciting and more adventurous. 4fun👍😉

At least one you can put a snow plow on if you have too. One you cannot!

Glad to know he’s already biased

why does the passport need a trailsport trim when its supposed to be more offroady than the pilot?

@@tinhinnh Because there's still improvements needed for the Passport to make it more offroad capable.

@@rabd3721too many “sports” 😂

@@tinhinnhLol agreed, I'm not a fan of "passport" for a model name.

@@rabd3721They should just use one body type (Pilot) and make the Trailsport trim little more capable and sell that as the “new” Passport instead of trying to make a junior 4Runner but less practical

Thanks! Will do!

It's a bargain compared to domestic counterparts.

I'm actually looking at the Trailsport for both models. Kind of favor the Pilot bc it has more space for families in the second row. Which one do you think is better?

The 4runner limited has lockable center diff. it is the exact same system found in the GX460, thus very capable off-road. The suspension is linked on all 4 shocks making it a lot more road friendly -sways less than other 4runners-

based on looks alone, 4Runner for me

Honda Odyssey transmission is the weakest link of the bunch

@@limelife7457 1999-2004 Honda V6 it is weak. At that time they were made a 3rd party that did a terrible job. For "most" 2005 models Honda went back to a in house made transmission and never had major issues again. Scotty Kilmer loves to talk shit about Odyssey transmissions but those 6 model years are all that were an issue and they were the V6 automatic transmission not the I4 transmission.

​@@SuperSnakePlissken Honda needs to stop trying to outsource their transmissions to other companies its really obvious when it isn't made by them IMO everything in the car will feel like quality but then you'll have an unresponsive and jerky transmission system that will feel off and unreliable. My only regret with buying the Passport is that and one of the reasons why I may trade up for the new gen cuz Idk how long that transmission will actually last truth be told.

@@jebril Not sure what you are talking about because Honda has been making their transmissions in house since 2005.

@@SuperSnakePlissken The passport uses a ZF transmission its some German trash tbh.

What made you get that over the Pilot?

@@luperamos7307 Didnt need a third row

They try to minimize cost of production it makes sense to do what they're doing when you consider that 90% of people won't push past what this Passport can do in offroading.

With the A-TRAC on in the SR5 the "Offroady crossovers" won't stand a chance!

Not even close, it's still a 4rumner lol. Which means right out of the box and SR5 is off-road capable

the fact you think "sr5" is not 'off roady' cause it's a base model tells everyone how 1.) naive you are 2.) unaware the general public is of how all these things 'off road' things work

The TRD Pro is mostly brake tricks for traction and a 1 inch Fox suspension. You can easily take an SR5 and make it much better than the Pro with a 3 inch suspension and possibly air lockers. Air lockers are much better than all those traction gimmicks.

The 4Runner gets 16 and 19 highway for an average of 17 mpg its right on the sticker

Yah but you get a 5 spd auto 😂

“Truck” .. 😂😂😂

Reliability and can hold their value specially when they become discontinue to the newer generation 4Runner with a turbo. This old school/dinosaur SUV will shoot up their value even more because Toyota started to stop the production of these vehicles.

@@limelife7457 I don't think that many people care. It's a very niche vehicle.

100%, you can get trd offroad premium and put a better suspension

Thanks 👍

4Runner's the best SUV in the world

What vehicle has the recliningrear seats?

@@rauljroybal the 4runner has rear reclining seats. Not sure about the 7 seater version though.

passport also has reclining and sliding back seats

That's the actual GT Snow Racer both Matthew and I used as kids. It's been hanging in a garage for many years, and now our kids love it. Some toys never get old!

Welcome!

Hope there is fuel where your going because the passport may get you there but not home. Comparing fuel economy in these is like comparing apples to ever so slighty more fuel efficient apples.

I have TRD offroad and I can get high 22 mpg.

the gas tank in the 4 runner is very small

Yeah it's a manly style lol

Your comparing 2 different cars lmao

Check out JonDZAdventure. His Passport has done around 100K miles of overlanding all over the US. All it needs are tires and clearance.

Poor dog. Bad Toyota.

It certainly does!

Thanks 👍