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Toyota 86 Exhaust Comparison - Stock vs Tomei UEL Header, Invidia Q300, OFT (GT86, FRS, BRZ) 

Rob Schaefer
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Is this the best header-exhaust combo for the 86 platform? The mid-deep bassy UEL rumble with sharp aggressive growls coming to life as you get into the pedal make for a real characteristic tone. Yet it's quiet on the highway and civil as you put through town. Somewhere between adult and goon, and trying to exhibit the best of both.
A side by side comparison of the stock exhaust vs Tomei UEL Header/Invidia Q300 catback exhaust combo along with a newly flashed stage 2+ Openflash tune.
Special thanks to James Hunt of Goliath Customs for making this install a breeze. Hit him up for custom LEDs, service, performance upgrades, etc.. @goliath_customs on Instagram

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@firstnamelastname3414
@firstnamelastname3414 4 года назад
Finally a good video that covers all aspects of driving with the exhaust. Nice job
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Thanks brother, that was the intent. Hope you found it helpful 🙏🏽
@fourtyfourone
@fourtyfourone 2 года назад
Yup i am getting a Q300 I had one on my civic si and i loved it
@RoninX43
@RoninX43 3 года назад
You sir are a legend for this video. Everything a Brz/86/FRS owner needs to know about dailying their ride with this setup in one place.
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Happy to help!
@oatsfavorite
@oatsfavorite 3 года назад
Nice! wished all video comparisons were like this!
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Try to keep it quick and simple. Thanks for the appreciation!
@oatsfavorite
@oatsfavorite 3 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 Do you have an instagram for the car? I'll love to see what you've done to it since!
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
@@oatsfavorite No, the only 86 without an IG. Only aesthetics since then. Rattle can gloss black on the winter wheels that came out remarkably well for the cost. Smoke black wrap on headlights and tail lights, came out sloppy but acceptable from afar. Considering lightweight summer setup. Thats about it. Maybe short shift kit in the future.
@oatsfavorite
@oatsfavorite 3 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 Ahh, I'm barely finishing up my aesthetics! I wanted to black out my housing, but that was a tedious route. I heard wrapping headlights wouldn't be good for those that drive for a long distances, since the lights heat up the wrap and it shrivels it. If you ever do make an IG, hit me up! instagram.com/oatboxes
@jakegoodeve9696
@jakegoodeve9696 2 года назад
Awesome video man, I've had my q300 for a couple of months now and everything else is stock. I've been trying to decide between the Tomei and the JDL UEL headers for a while and this has made me definitely more on the side of Tomei. But the video was really well made and the comparisons were great so a big thank you!
@gzeus6332
@gzeus6332 3 года назад
Looking at getting the new GR 86, and came to the right place for an exhaust video, I know it will sound a bit different, but this is a great starting place. I always avoided Invidia and Tomei tbh, because I always associate them with drone and being overbearing loud, but that UEL and Exhaust combo sounds fantastic and not to loud! Perfect video my guy!
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Glad this helped! You're right, Tomei goes hard and when paired with something like the N1 it's numbingly loud. But Invidia really did a great job with the Q300 to deliver the tone without the oppressive volume. Cold start's are little louder than I'd prefer. Waking up early to head out on a hike from a campground, I genuinely feel bad... I keep my toe on the throttle from the jump to bring the revs out of the deep resonant warble. Other than that though, all good. Highway cruising is equal if not more tolerable than stock. Same volume at a less naggy pitch.
@vmfan96
@vmfan96 4 года назад
Nice vid. That’s the way to drive a BRZ/FRS/86. I’m still on the fence about the q300. Currently have headers tune and light wheels (17” RPF1) . Huge differences from stock. Light wheels made the biggest the difference. I may go for a final drive instead or just just swap in a rear diff from 2017+ .
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Thank you friend. A lightweight setup (often overlooked mod) on decent tires is probably my next move, along with some subtle aesthetic additions.
@VladooDIY
@VladooDIY 3 года назад
That is the perfect video i was looking for!
@mrminerniner6153
@mrminerniner6153 2 года назад
After seeing this, I think this setup is gonna be my goal
@wingedlion17
@wingedlion17 4 года назад
Great! About to get this setup
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
D E good choice brother 👌🏽 flattens the torque dip and improves the driving character significantly as well.
@matusknives
@matusknives 4 года назад
That sounds fantastic
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Thanks brother 🙏🏽 The combo makes some nice music
@akashkoyambron
@akashkoyambron Год назад
Awesome video! Brilliantly done and very helpful ❤
@notyourbusiness1352
@notyourbusiness1352 3 года назад
It's a good video with many views but only 22 subs? I subbed!!
@ndrsg3013
@ndrsg3013 3 года назад
I had to say aloud: BEAUTIFUL :D
@Gaddit_86
@Gaddit_86 2 года назад
Quality Video. Thank you
@raveblc3812
@raveblc3812 4 года назад
king, nice video
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Big thanks dude!
@alex3899555
@alex3899555 3 года назад
Very good content
@gauravawadhwal5988
@gauravawadhwal5988 3 года назад
Thanks for the video! Was wondering - does this have a stock frontpipe still? Thanks!
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Yes. Still stock on the front pipes and over pipes.
@davidcho739
@davidcho739 19 дней назад
Is the tune an OFT v4.03 tune?
@britdalcais3967
@britdalcais3967 4 года назад
Cool car bruh
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Thanks, its got an engine! You’re an amazing singer.
@tonylee3614
@tonylee3614 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, exactly what I'm looking for. Any noticeable drone with this setup?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Virtually none. If you're highway cruising at anything less than 70mph it's barely audible. Above 70mph it's there but no louder than the ever present NVH. I actually prefer this over stock for normal highway duty. Same volume, lower pitched, less naggy tone that fades into the background.
@MashFlight
@MashFlight 2 года назад
Don't know if anyone will reply but to anyone running this: I currently have an unknown cat back with a uel, it has a great subie rumble. Will putting on my q300 get rid of/quiet it?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 2 года назад
Well it'll sound just like this.... so depends if you count that as quieter. Either way the "warble" will stay, thats generated from the UEL.
@anthonyz7023
@anthonyz7023 3 года назад
P2097 code with UEL header, over pipe, resonated front pipe, resonated mid pipe, invidia Q300. Will a OFT2.0 cure the problem?
@tommyferrer6076
@tommyferrer6076 3 года назад
Yessir
@anthonyz7023
@anthonyz7023 3 года назад
@@tommyferrer6076 , thanks brother
@deadeyed373
@deadeyed373 3 года назад
It'll fix it if you didnt damage the o2 sensors when you installed the headers. If the PCODE keeps coming back after you reset it and tune it, then one of the sensors got damage and youll need to replace it.
@jm_20brz
@jm_20brz 6 месяцев назад
I know I am very late but I have been eyeing this combo for a bit and just have one main question. How loud is the cold start? is it waking up neighbors type loud? also with normal driving how loud is it, are you able to drive it relatively quiet? also is there any rasp? its hard to hear in the video.
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 месяца назад
Admittedly, the cold start/idle is a little louder than I’d prefer. I used to live in a condo development with a communal parking lot, about 50 ft from any dwellings and it was fine. I live in a city now and parallel parked, right next to someone’s bedroom window, I feel bad and try to get moving quickly. If you get on the gas immediately it helps. 2k is significantly less disruptive then the like 1.7k idle which just seems to hit a perfect resonant frequency. So if you’re REALLY close to neighbors, yeah they’re gonna hear it. Normal driving is perfect and undisruptive unless you’re doing like 80mph +, then you can hear it, but still not particularly loud. No rasp.
@marcz9482
@marcz9482 3 года назад
I don't know man, it kinda sticks out too far. I like the flush look. Sounds annoying enough, I like the brz stock sound you can drive hard without attracting attention. You really don't gain that much HP
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Sounds like you should prob stick with the stock set up then. You won’t gain much in the way of sheer HP or speed, but the header and tune help eliminate the torque dip. The character of the driving improves significantly in the mid RPM range.
@justinguerrero6357
@justinguerrero6357 3 года назад
Currently own the q300 and rest stock. I installed it , then removed. I can’t seem to get over the stock sound. It sounds perfect I just wish it was slightly louder. But I’m undecided if I wanna put back on the q300. I do agree stock is best for pushing the car hard for our slow speed.
@timhayward6833
@timhayward6833 3 года назад
Great vid, I'm looking at very similar setup but with PSR (same as Tomei) UEL and over pipe and Invidia catted high flow front pipe + Q300. Any thoughts on whether this will change the sound much from what you have here, which is very nice BTW? Any reason you didn't do front pipe and over pipe?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Thanks and glad to hear. I imagine it would sound largely the same if you’re going with a catted front pipe. Maybe a bit more aggressive assuming Invidia FP has a higher flow? Have to imagine their parts sync nicely together and sound great. Header gives you most the gains and since I wasn’t running a full catless system, left those stock to save some change. Might have left a few HP on the table with that decision but I’m happy with with it. Good luck brother 👌🏽
@timhayward6833
@timhayward6833 3 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 Hey many thanks for the quick reply Rob, really appreciate it. And Kia ora from Aotearoa / New Zealand!
@bossaleclassic
@bossaleclassic 3 года назад
Hi I have this exact exhaust setup. What tune did you chose for the OFT?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
I went with the built in "off the shelf" Stage 2+ 93 oct. Additionally, I believe you can write in to OFT and request a custom tune optimized to your exact setup 👍🏽
@TheHackersaurusRex
@TheHackersaurusRex 4 года назад
Does it remove the torque dip?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
jamienharv With header/exhaust/ tune there’s without a doubt a noticeable improvement in the torque dip. Feels flat. It doesn’t make a slow car fast, but it never feels like you’re waiting for the power to show up. I don’t have a dyno to confirm results but there’s certainly spec sheets out there that do.
@civicgamessports6937
@civicgamessports6937 3 года назад
How much does this setup run total?
@manfred5597
@manfred5597 4 года назад
Wieviel Ps hat jetzt dein Flitzer? Habe gelesen,dass man mit dem Uel Krümmer und Sportauspuffanlage und Abstimmung,über 220Ps dann haben soll.
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Ich habe nicht dyno getestet, aber sie konnen die leistungssteugerung spuren. Berichte sagen uber 20 hp ansteig und 25 tq im did vertifung. Mehr spass 👌🏽.
@manfred5597
@manfred5597 4 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 Klingt ja super,vorallem,wenn dann die Drehmomentdelle weg ist zwischen 3000-4000 Umdrehungen.😎
@roach1337
@roach1337 Год назад
is this with catted or catless headers?
@slonkijippie
@slonkijippie 4 года назад
Whats that rattle you have after you rev? Some plastic vibrating or the exhaust?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
The parked one from outside the car, I believe is the exhaust itself. At low RPMs it has really deep bassy rumble that I think hits the resonant frequency and just shakes the hell out of the thing. Can’t hear from inside though and doesn’t occur unless lugging the engine from low down. The rattle inside during the pulls is the reverse lockout on the shifter.
@slonkijippie
@slonkijippie 4 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 Ah ok! Sounds amazing either way, im waiting to get my UEL header shipped, in the meanwhile im trying to figure out what exhaust to go with it. I think i narrowed it down to the Q300 or the Perrin Resonated, seem to be at the volume level and sound i want. Did you ever consider any other exhaust?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 4 года назад
Also considered the Invidia R400 which is between the Q300 and N1 (sounds better than the Q300 but not as stealth), the Borla, and the Perrin. Corsa nice too. All genuinely sound nice in my opinion, just kinda the vibe you’re going for.
@HazenLewis
@HazenLewis 4 года назад
I want this exact setup! Any tips ?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Header is a bit tricky to get on as some of the bolt placements are difficult to reach. A series of ratchet extensions will help!
@tommyferrer6076
@tommyferrer6076 3 года назад
Does it drone ??
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
At any legal speed it’s not even a thought. Not noticeable until about 80mph and even then it’s relatively subdued and totally bearable.
@saulespino3037
@saulespino3037 3 года назад
Are you running dedicated winter tires?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Yes have Blizzak WS80s mounted on a separate set of wheels; 17" Sport Edition P5's. Have a few videos driving through the snow on my channel.
@brother_maleik
@brother_maleik 3 года назад
These 2 mods make the car after fire?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Little pops here and there coming off high revs, but not frequent.
@brother_maleik
@brother_maleik 3 года назад
@@robschaefer4305 yea I got a cat/muffler delete and a OFT stage 2+ and it does that. I put the popcorn tune on for a little bit the throttle became laggy so I took it off... Damn that was all in the past 4 months, progress looking good. Thanks homie!
@jo312o7
@jo312o7 3 года назад
Stock front pipe or ?
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Stock front pipe, yes
@maximilianmosqueda6459
@maximilianmosqueda6459 3 года назад
What kind of wheels
@robschaefer4305
@robschaefer4305 3 года назад
Just some cheap 17" Sport Edition - P5' on Blizzak WS80 Winter Tires. Recently painted gloss black and they look great.
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