UEL HEADERS VS EL HEADERS ON 86/BRZ...WHICH IS BETTER?

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In todays video we go over the sound and power differences between a UEL and EL header for the BRZ/86 platform. There's many differences in opinion between many car enthusiasts for the Subaru Boxer engines; however, we'll help you ease your decision by sharing our cars and opinions with you. Let us know what you think of the video and what other mods should we do to our cars. Enjoy :)
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@EnergyOfQi 11 месяцев назад

i like the EL sound better its more crisp but that's just me

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

I agree 100% with you - (Definitely Andrew)

@ivanchristophersaldana119 4 месяца назад

Ok the rumble is great on th uel and u live it but the fly-by of the elh is amazing like now im divide with which one to get... maybe its just the mufflers or something

@carantix 3 месяца назад

The fly by really does sound good 😂😂

@dan3510 3 месяца назад

That got me too

@MichaelAngeloHaresco 2 месяца назад

EL flyby sounds like a supercar

@carantix 2 месяца назад

It sounds so good!🔥🔥

@votik166 9 месяцев назад

What brand of EL headers do you have?

@carantix 9 месяцев назад

The EL header is a JDL 4-2-1 catless

@votik166 8 месяцев назад

@@carantix are you running a AM front pipe?

@carantix 8 месяцев назад

The brz currently has a stock front pipe, might change soon 👀

@fillman86 Год назад

man the equal length sounds so much better, but then again I come from australia where fart can subarus are freaking everywhere

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

LMAOO They're everywhere here in the U.S. too. Even on Andrews car... ://

@Muhluri 7 месяцев назад

Nice to see you here

@JETZcorp 11 месяцев назад

It's very simple. If you have a Subaru badge, UEL. If you have a Toyota badge, EL.

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

Maybe we should switch badges then…🤔🤔

@justice8122 9 месяцев назад

its much simpler. do wtv you want its your car

@hhaste 9 месяцев назад

Nah, EL regardless. UEL are less efficient.

@JETZcorp 9 месяцев назад

@@hhaste "Less efficient" is a core part of the Subaru brand.

@kevinlieder989 8 месяцев назад

@@JETZcorpBro you killed me 😂

@mrminerniner6153 11 месяцев назад

This might be the best EL vs UEL comparison video I've seen. Although I still don't know which i wanna go with lol

@carantix 10 месяцев назад

Thank you lots! Glad you enjoyed our video and were able to learn something from it! Personally I think you should go with the UEL just for that amazing classic subie rumble but that’s just my (totally Derek) opinion.

@hhaste 9 месяцев назад

EL is the only correct choice.

@Nordspets 7 месяцев назад

Personally I love the rumble, and as they say: “Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races”

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

You’re not wrong!👀

@BRZguy 11 месяцев назад

EL sounds way better for these cars. I feel like the rumble is something that's characteristic to the WRX and only really fits that car. Not to mention that the power increases matter more up top rather than in the middle of the rev range.

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

This guy is speaking facts! - (Totally Andrew)

@romariosmith422 11 месяцев назад

@hhaste 9 месяцев назад

@@romariosmith422 Lol? Which part.. because everything he said is true.

@carantix 9 месяцев назад

@@hhaste some people just can't handle the facts...aka Andrew... ://

@future_phonk 6 месяцев назад

Tell that to the owners of forester, impreza, and legacy.

@rwcoffie 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video i think im gonna go EL now for sure after watching this video couldnt decide..

@carantix 10 месяцев назад

Of course! Glad we could help you decide. Great choice either way going with EL headers, they’re definitely the better option (yes yes this is Andrew saying this)

@altezzadreams 11 месяцев назад

Awesome comparison, boys. I'm digging the whole channel hope you upload more vids. I think the next mod on my BRZ will be UEL headers. I heard the first gen Tomei UEL headers will fit on the second gen so I am planning on that. Hopefully it will sound good with my HKS exhaust!

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

We’re glad you liked the video, it really means a lot to us! We’ve heard that Tomei Uel plus Hks exhaust sounds really good so we hope to hear your car when you get it installed!

@t.j.higgins9939 Год назад

couple questions on the gr86. are the uel headers catted or catless? did you get a tune right away after installing the uel headers? also if you didn't tune the car right away did you have any issues with check engine lights or anything? i have a 2023 brz and id like to get the jdl uel catted headers but I haven't been able to find a ton of information on tuning vs not tuning so I'm a little hesitant

@carantix Год назад

The headers are catted and there were no issues running it without a tune. Zero check engine lights so you should be good as long as they’re catted. Catless you would most likely need a defouler for the O2 sensor. The tune mostly just helps utilize the power you can gain from the headers but if you’re going for mostly sound the uels by themselves are worth it!

@hhaste 9 месяцев назад

My advice = get the parts and install them all at once and get a tune at the same time. Peace of mind, extra power and safer.

@mathewpsouza Год назад

Amazing video! Now I know the difference between UEL and EL headers! I think that I am leaning more towards the UEL headers for my GR86! Keep up the great work💯🔥🔥🔥

@carantix Год назад

Glad you enjoyed the video! I 100% agree with your choice on the UEL headers, they're definitely better than the EL ones. (this is totally derek saying this)

@NinoInTheComments Год назад

yeah same, I'm pretty sure UEL on the FA24 gives more torque than EL... which imo is more important than top end HP, dont wanna peaky engine

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

@@NinoInTheComments We're glad you enjoyed the video as well! The UEL does give more torque in the lower rpm range however, the EL header gives more power to the higher rpm range which is most important for track/canyon runs. In the end UEL is better for daily driving whereas EL is better for pushing your car to its limits :)

@NinoInTheComments 11 месяцев назад

@@carantix true, just gotta be in control of the rev ranges right 😂😂

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

@@NinoInTheComments I just don't want my car to blow up so I cant constantly be in the high rev range... -Andrew

@justsomeguy9713 5 дней назад

the subaru rumble makes your car sound broken like you have a missfire

@carantix 3 дня назад

💀💀💀💀

10 месяцев назад

I like the sound of the EL better but I like more torque at low rpm.

@carantix 10 месяцев назад

You’re stuck between going with sound or power now haha 😂

@eloicasals1826 9 месяцев назад

ACE A350 is your way to go

@VectorAero 10 дней назад

Despite being a Subaru fan, I find the boxer rumble obnoxious AF. Doesn't suit this car at all. On a WRX sure, but not this small lightweight sports car.

@carantix 8 дней назад

That is true...what engine sound could you see the BRZ/86s making though?

@VectorAero 8 дней назад

@@carantix i meant it sounds good with equal length headers. I personally don't like UEL on it.

@carantix 7 дней назад

@@VectorAero ahhh, got you! EL does fit the car pretty well ngl!

@sohaibyounus 5 месяцев назад

Good video! really great comparison. Really appreciate the clip for the race between the first Gen. I personally like the sound from both manifolds but I do prefer the top end sound of the EL headers. I used to own a Civic SI and it reminded me of that lol.

@carantix 5 месяцев назад

Thank you bro, we really appreciate the love and are glad you enjoyed the video! The EL header really is a unique taste for these cars and we’re glad you love it too🖤🖤

@nightcall7398 9 месяцев назад

I can't choose! I want the sound and the power! But to be fair they both sound cool in their own right. So do the EL headers do make more high end power?

@carantix 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, we were stuck as well when deciding between the two! The EL headers do make more high end power depending on which brand of headers you buy which does in the end help beat out UEL versions of the same BRZ, FRS, and 86’s :)

@carantix 9 месяцев назад

You will also have to get tuned to see the major differences however though!

@reydominicluciano5950 8 месяцев назад

There’s a tri Y headers where you get the best of both worlds

@carantix 8 месяцев назад

@@reydominicluciano5950 Tri Y??? That sounds sick!!! What brand makes that header?

@alanperez4921 Год назад

I just took off of my uniquely landers because I didn’t like the sound. It sounds way too loud for that car.

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

You should get some JDL's instead, they're amazing!

@eighty6_cisco 11 месяцев назад

UEL for sure was almost tempted to go with EL skunk2 header but nah decided to get the uel Xforce header

@carantix 10 месяцев назад

YESSIR! you know what’s up and I totally agree with you on your decision to go with UEL - yes I am Derek

@AlishaCrampton-k8z 9 дней назад

Zion Ville

@sadboizk4624 24 дня назад

honestly i like UEL and what comes with getting the UEL i just prefer it more with the more boxy-er sound

@carantix 20 дней назад

The subie rumble really is a hard to beat😅😅

@garysouthwell5762 3 месяца назад

Give me the SMOOOOTH RASP anyday, Power and Quality. Lumpy doesnt do anything for me unless its V8 or V10 or V12!

@carantix 2 месяца назад

That’s a bold statement my guy!👀👀

@Elite2832 5 месяцев назад

This NA 2 liter doesnt move enough air to really feel any difference between the two headers. Its why you really only see minimal gains its mostly in the torque dip. When you boost the car then you will see a much more dramatic difference between the two header styles. UEL for the low end rumble during everyday driving. If your someone chasing peek power from your boosted set up then EL all the way

@carantix 5 месяцев назад

This is very true, you’ll see majority of the gains when turbod but the brz with El headers did outperform a frs with Uel headers while NA. So it’s still worth it for some people chasing NA power over sound

@Joshbfil0 2 месяца назад

Love the sound of both.. but how many lightweight RWD coupe’s that rumble can you list on the market?

@carantix 2 месяца назад

I guess you're right😂😂

@dan3510 3 месяца назад

Dang… that UEL sounds so much better under 5k, but the EL sounded way better at that high rpm fly by

@carantix 3 месяца назад

I wish we could have the best of both worlds :(((

@richieroo4844 11 месяцев назад

Me , i would go with for the UEL , thanks for the comparison , btw man that dude got the moves down , good stuff

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

I agree with you! I really regret and wish that I went down the UEL path instead of EL - (Definitely Derek)

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

Also, you're welcome for the comparison video! We have many more comparison videos to come in the future, as well as Derek's fortnite dance moves!

@yodrum Месяц назад

Which headers where yall using for the vid just out of curiosity?

@carantix Месяц назад

The UEL ones are JDL UEL Catted headers and the EL ones are the JDL uncatted 4-2-1 el headers

@luishernandez8360 Год назад

EL just cus we got same gen and color

@carantix Год назад

Why do you have to be biased like that? Lol jkjk love to hear your thoughts!

@KevinLewis-i9v 19 дней назад

Schamberger Shores

@carantix 17 дней назад

Huhhhh????

@SuperTonydd 4 месяца назад

ELH sounds better

@crankdat86 29 дней назад

Running EL on my '17 and now I know what our fly by sounds like 🫨 😆

@carantix 28 дней назад

Pretty crazy huh. Sounds so good!!!😂😂

@csabagergelybencsik448 11 месяцев назад

I have EJ204 NA engine on SG Facelift Forester streetcar . For NA engine which header is better for performance / fuel efficiency ? EL stock header or UEL header ?

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

That's a really sick car bro! For headers, we'd recommend getting a UEL header as any aftermarket header would be better than stock power wise, plus at least for our cars, we experienced very minimal drops in mpg when we put our headers on. Whichever is more important to you to be honest. Also, we would definitely recommend hitting the forums for better information though because in the end this is just our opinions.

@Handsomemeloon 9 месяцев назад

I got el headers installed about a week ago, garage told me that the el headers just make more power end of. Uel is just for sound and less power overall

@carantix 9 месяцев назад

This is very true what the garage told you! Which el headers did you install btw?

@bridgetclinch3678 2 месяца назад

HKS UEL sounds way better

@carantix 2 месяца назад

probably

@ArchCatalyst Год назад

I appreciate the comparison video. I see why some would like the EL headers but my preference is definitely for the UEL.

@carantix Год назад

Of course! Totally agree with your preference on the UEL headers, I think they sound so much nicer than EL, but that’s just me (Derek, totally not Andrew) :)

@ResurrectMee Год назад

Can you give the links to the headers?

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

They're just jdl 4-2-1 el headers on the brz, and jdl catted uels on the gr86

@bruatou Год назад

Longtube EL > short tube

@mresab1997 11 месяцев назад

Ace Header for the win 🥇

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

@@mresab1997 nah, 4-2-1 JDL Header ftw!

@mresab1997 11 месяцев назад

@@carantix except it doesn’t win, especially when paired with a forced induction kit. The JDL is less volumetrically efficient

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

@@mresab1997 send the links for proof and ill go ace instead in a future video 👀

@mresab1997 11 месяцев назад

@@carantixno can do. While the data that Ace has far more area under the curve and volumetric efficient than any header on the market, you can’t get your hands on the original A350’s anymore. The newly revised units aren’t the same as the original, and perform to a lesser degree. Still excellent however (and probably still superior). I’m unsure if FA24 applications for it as well. I happen to have the very last production unit (sealed new) of the A350 in a dual ceramic ‘CSG Spec’ coating on it, with the Ace front pipe (also dual coated). I will let it go to only the right buyer if anyone feels the desire to reach out.

@dancearoundtheworld5360 11 месяцев назад

it sounds best on a k24 😂😂

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

UELs or ELs for the K24?

@dancearoundtheworld5360 11 месяцев назад

@@carantix they are similar but UEL is best

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

@@dancearoundtheworld5360 We agree!

@Alanvictoryoung Год назад

UEL Bro!!!

@carantix Год назад

Hell yeah! My name is Derek and I totally agree bro!

@Muhluri 7 месяцев назад

They both sound OK

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

Cammed Ls sounds better…

@ryanwilkins3206 7 месяцев назад

You are comparing a turbo and non turbo car though so different base sound even without changing the headers

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

Who has the turbo?😂😂

@ryanwilkins3206 7 месяцев назад

@@carantixah my bad, it’s the new GR86 that’s turbocharged 🤟

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

@@ryanwilkins3206 Got you! Hopefully it does come out turbod, we'd love to see it!

@ryanwilkins3206 7 месяцев назад

@@carantix will be awesome if it does… it’s the only thing it’s missing currently

@carantix 7 месяцев назад

@@ryanwilkins3206 literally!

@DemetriGxC Год назад

With the UEL are you able to pass SMOG and did you need a tune for it? I am just curious and love the subie rumble

@carantix 11 месяцев назад

Unfortunately with Cali laws, any aftermarket headers wont pass a smog test, so over here most likely it wont pass. In regards to the tune, you don't necessarily need a tune for the uel headers; however, we would definitely recommend it for the performance gains that you can get. Also, the only mod you will likely need for a gr86 if you upgrade the headers to uel catless is a defouler which helps to keep check engine lights from popping up.