Toyota GR Corolla vs Subaru WRX MT Comparison & 0-60 / Reality Check 

You’re definitely right!

and its does not cost 70k like gr:D

Also WRX has no front and no rear LSD, just open

Active Torque Vectoring

@@illyack5593 yes it's what non-sports cars that don't have LSD have, it uses the brake pads haha, our minivan has it

Toyota is supposedly ramping up production so maybe it won't be as hard to get in a little while. I picked one up without much hassle for MSRP.

@@iamblamb501 that was for the circuit trim afaik, i just want the core with the performance package, but no luck. do you mind disclosing where you got yours from?

What dealership are selling GR corolla for msrp

@@seveng86sg none it’s bs. Core is marked up to 45k around me. Fa24 makes conservative 350whp with an intake and protune only….easy choice for me

@@ShaiyanHossain John Harvey in Louisiana. I also got a call from Granbury in Texas and they wanted to sell me one at MSRP as well.

Loving my WRX. Totally stock hardware, but with Drunkmann OTS 93 octane tune for $150. Putting down over 317 whp and 348 wtq. Faster than my old B8 S4 :)

brother picked up a 22 wrx few months ago, it's an excellent car to drive. trunk is a dealbreaker though after living with a liftback the past 10+ years. will keep waiting for a GRC at msrp.

@@aaromon43 The Corolla has a tiny hatch area.

@@fullboost Yes, same footprint as my '05 WRX wagon/hatch, but smaller interior

Sorry to burst the bubble, the gr Corolla is already proven.. the gr Yaris that has been in Europe the past couple years is the exact same engine and awd. 500 hp stock block capable.

The old school rawness ? 😅 The new WRX has the same awd system as the outback lol 😅 the same steering from other models lol My 2018 STi base model felt “numb” , not at all “old school” My GRC feels like a modded 11:36 2005 STi 😅, as mechanical in the clutch/brakes/steering/suspension as my base model c6 targa vette . All my 2018 STi had over the GRC is it’s brakes and it’s ability to hold a line under hard braking . The GRC needs to approach with an oversteer attitude because if it slips under braking , it’s going straight … So best to flick it through turns , which is more fun than the STi’s approach Oh and doing an oil change in a car SHOULD NOT require removing 6 screws , 5 body clips , and having road debris dropped on your face to take a plastic shield off the bottom of your car 😅 FU Subaru Also the multimedia is better in GRC , interior materials were better in the STi , and the interior space was leaguessss better in the Subie

I think you are confused between the wrx and the discontinued sti.

So no back seat in the corolla? That alone might double the insurance cost. That's considered a roadster

​@Align700nitro it will come back. The most ridiculous thing is that they got rid of the manual in the wrx for 2024. That is the dumbest thing they could have done

@@johndodo2062 not really , the wrx is not a car that needs a standard trans It’s like a sporty Volvo or something Real enthusiasts know the wrx have been shit since 2010

Agreed, Canada makes the difference far too large.

Yea, I am in ontario and while my wrx was on order and i was waiting for it to show up, they released the corolla. I called my local Yota dealer just out of curiosity and they said all of ontario was only getting 70 to 80 cars, whereas you can go to a dealership and buy a wrx the next day. Sure in some aspects its a better car, but whats it matter if you can't actually get one

@Kc - if you really want the GR Corolla in Ontario, call around, there seems to be a few available here and there out of the city centers. I have a dealer that has one for me if I want it. Will get more details but I am not sure it is worth the extra money. At least my trade value is top dollar, but it is still about $15,000 CAD on top of my trade. For that price I am also wondering if a 2022 Mustang GT with the track package (on sale for $51,000 CAD) is the better choice, or save some money and get the base GT (for $44,000 CAD)…hell, you can order a new Camaro LT1 with the 6.2L V8, Recaros and brembos for $49,000 CAD…lots of options at this price point. New Tesla 3SR+ or used 3LR AWD…

I'm on my dealer list for a CE GR. But, man I can get a WRX for under $40k CAD. The GR is in the mid $50k range. It's so basic for a 60k vehicle with taxes.

@@stefantakacs literally why I bought a wrx.

Hope you made the right decision and got the subaru. If not, make sure you get the 2023. No manual in the 2024 model, which is so dumb

@@johndodo2062What do you mean?

They’re making 320-350 to all 4 wheels with pretty conservative tuning on ethanol that would make it a completely different beast

@@cartere9981 Awesome, that aligns with this engine supposedly being a bit more tuner friendly. Might give it a tune after the warranty falls off 🙂

@@osielramirez7274 have you looked into a JB4? It bypasses the ECU so no worry of voiding the warranty.

The core trim GRC is selling used for 50k. A brand new Limited trim wrx os only 38k. That gives you about 12k to play with.

@@diallo1347 woah talk about price gauging

That's what I went with but it didn't work out, picked up a 23 WRX and after spending $5k on coilovers, sways, bushings, and 200tw, handling still wasn't great, it was good but not great especially compared to my husband's STI at the Willow Springs tracks. Our Subaru engineer friend was at the track event and we asked him and he let us know it's because the new WRX uses open front and open rear diff from the SUV/Crosstrek platform that just uses brake vectoring, where as the STI has front LSD, center DCCD, rear LSD. If the GR Corolla comes with all those then it'll probably handle much better.

the cobb access port is not a piggyback. its a tool to remap your ecu

​@@diallo1347maybe in your area but im getting a circuit for msrp.

Owned a '02 WRX hatch for 17 years. Sold it and bought it's twin '05 to tide me over for the new WRX. Bought a GR. Love the WRX a lot of bang for the buck

I owned a 1999 impreza gt. I wish they will release a similar one. I miss it.

Yeah I've driven a lot of these newer cars I have not driven a gr Corolla yet but I will have to say they do not compare to the experience that you get an older Subaru. I don't care what anybody says. I will say though the GR/GV chassis WRX and STI are the softener ones I still absolutely love that generation. I had a 2012 sti and I still think it's one of my favorites. None of these new cars have very good sounds even with an exhaust on them. They all have similar farty four-cylinder sounds for the most part. They just feel so neutered and lifeless. When you open the hood on these newer ones everything is just black plastic and it's just so sad. As a car guy that was part of the pride and joy of the car you had. Looking under the hood and showing everybody how cool looked was always the fun part but now you just open the hood to a bunch of black plastic and it's just not the same anymore. I will never buy one of these new cars personally because they lack the Enthusiast feel. Everything feels like it was purposely built for the masses instead of just for that group of enthusiasts. I really want to like the new gr Corolla because it has a new different engine in it but I still feel like it's going to be similar and how it feels compared to the other cars in the category. And that includes the new WRX. I know times have to change but that doesn't always make it a good thing.

Thanks, the gr makes for on-demand laughter

The joy of driving 1 ugly mofo !

Congrats!

2024 pricing jumps the GRC base price close to $60k now. Going to cancel my pre-order, these are not worth that kind of $$$.

I wouldn't say it's the better vehicle. The mark up shows how asinine Toyota is now, even though the subaru destroys the corolla in overall utility and the awd is leagues ahead of the corolla. Also, a decent driver could get 5 flat to 60 in the subaru. I have one and I have eaten through over a foot of snow here in PA during a state of emergency with zero issues at all. The corolla may have awd, but everyone knows their system is inferior

​@stefantakacs they aren't even worth 40, let alone 60. That's so dishonest from Toyota, especially when they were bragging about keeping their prices low while other were price gouging. Pretty sure subaru is one of the only car companies that aren't actively screwing customers.

I have a 22 myself I got over the plastic the first day. Super easy to live with as well as it is a unique design!

No physical AC controls is quite annoying

It literally cost me 300$ to paint match…. 😂 hope you love that GR. But then again anyone paying 10k more for a GR because they can’t build deserves it. 💀

@@CodyTheReactor salty lol

@@LXIXBK I think the plastic cladding will also help slow down rust in northern climates

I talked about this pretty extensively in the video, those numbers are not what I found, and I actually considered buying both of these (bought the GR).

The looks are fine, but the performance is back of the pack.

I love it. Plus, us normies don't have to over pay to get into one.

@@oraclemiata845 luckily an intake and tune will push it to 400whp/wtq.

​@@oraclemiata845 more tunable than any of its competitors

@@theaman1676 99% of people are not going to tune a brand new car under warranty. If it can’t perform off the lot, it’s nothing more than a money pit at that point. I wouldn’t dare do any custom work to any vehicle with a warranty. Especially not Subaru’s given their known gasket/piston issues

Here in the southeast, GR 5K over with some 10K (couple 15K). Got mine for MSRP +$1300 dealer add ons ($40.5K). Elantra N was high on my list

Good choice. That GR Corolla is priced about the same as the new GR Supra after dealership markups

One will last longer than the other

​@Shabam4895 so you think it's worth paying 10k markup on a corolla when you could just have bought a supra instead Toyota fanboys are so delusional 😂😂

I have a 22 WRX too. What’s better or worse than the VA STI for you?

@@rookie_breakshe engine is better than sti, that’s about it but it’s a big deal

@@rookie_breaks Kind of mix. The FA24 makes power so much easier than any EJ ever did, but you only get the basic Symmetrical AWD with no LSDs.

The Subaru does make more sense for most and you do get physically more car, though the GR is no XSE, it outruns the WRX in basically all measurable ways!

@@Realistick but i´m sure you can put a lot of more miles on the bigger Subi engine as on the tiny 3 Cyl. Corolla engine.

I don't think you'll have a hard time getting a WRX, because no one wants one. I'm glad people like you exist to guarantee the existence of clearly inferior competition. Any competition is good for the consumer.

Yeah and you get more reliability with Toyota..

Subi looks ugly as hell with that rear parcel shelf and black cladding. Let me guess you want the CVT as well

Wanted a WRX but I couldn't get past all of the plastic

The GRC is a small car

@@stevethomas760 Exactly, too small to have adults in the back

@@mistamaog Yes it's a tight back seat, but it also depends on both front and rear passenger height. Shorter front passengers move the seats forward giving rear occupants more leg room. Also how often do you truthfully have adult rear occupants in your car?

@@NyrixDerg in my case, almost every weekend, and it's going to be more often in the future, if everything goes well haha But yeah maybe if my sister sat in front of me, I could fit, but I was sad to find out that I couldn't sit behind myself ☹️

​@@NyrixDerg gr corolla is supposed to be a hot hatch that you can daily Actually with markups, you could just have bought a supra instead which will destroy that souped up corolla in the track and in the streets lmao

Thank you!

If you consider inflation, that’s cheaper than the evo, which was also a bargain bin car with an awesome powertrain. I guess if you are expecting the usual 42k car interior then it’s bad but that misses the point.

price difference is closer to $8-9k if you factor in 2k markup on a GR. A tune and light mods should make it just as quick in a straightline but it's still not the driver's car that the toyota is. That's what the STI used to be for and what the new TR is for (which is more expensive than the GR btw)

The GR has poor visibility. Well I think so anyway

Get a steering damper for 80 bucks

Get an alignment I'm in the industry no new car comes from the factory properly aligned. Turn in improved drastically along with road manners. Also a drop it filter, a axel back exhaust and a carbon filter delete got me a full pound of boost more while keeping my warranty. I am a Subaru salesman and a former Toyota salesman. Service may be looking the other way on the carbon filter but it is extremely restrictive and the part replacement is cheap if you need to do a warranty claim.

@@matt2mWhich drop in air filter do you recommend ? K&N ?

1 had a 2015 WRX premium, with an ets intake and protune i was getting 36 mpg highway at 280 hp to the wheels

Ya sucks the 2022 WRX is so damn ugly

In today's market where there are a shortage of parts, making profitable car's which sell in volume is more important for small companies like Subaru. Most people are buying SUV's and CUV's that the market for an STi variant is too small to justify spending development dollars on when automakers are facing the transition to electrification. Enjoy these two cars while there are here because in the very near future you won't be getting any more manual transmission fun to drive cars.

Your feeling is incorrect sir. Official numbers are.... Wrx 0-60 in 5.3 second Gr 0-60 is 4.99 seconds. Add in the superior awd system in the subaru and there's no way your statement is even slightly accurate. Especially for 60k. It doesn't help that the gr had the typical videos corolla front end

I mean, if a 0 to 60 improvement of only .31 seconds is that impressive for you, you might want to go drive both. Maybe try them both on a snowy day

Thank you ive been a salesman for both brands and even though im with Subaru now the wrx is superior even if I was still with Toyota the Subaru wins. It has more headroom for mods. He is launching the car wrong 6500 miles in 3 months of ownership I'm speaking from experience. Ive driven both hard a former tech at Subaru has one and let me go hard on his GR.

Already handles tunes well. The FA24 is well known for handling power as there's been a Crosstrek with that engine from I think 2019? that's been making like 500 whp all this time

tires are going to make the difference not new pads or rotors.

What year is your Wrx

@@longshanks5531 2023

I’ve gotten used to no armrest but I’ll have to look into that, thanks

@@Realistick I miss the convenience of storage more than the armrest

Everything was off, both had the same launch rpms to keep it fair. I got 3.8 seconds in an RS3 so you must be a god 😵😵😵 please go make videos and show us your greatness😻

Subaru is a better value, but a worse car for what I wanted.

What a shame lol

Idk about the brakes, but the gt trim (with cvt only) has Recaro seats

I drove the WRX first and then bought the GR. Just because I can afford to make a decision between the two, does not imply bias. If I were to ignore the GR's flaws, different story.

Where’s all those STi’s for sale? 🤣😂🤣 seems to me most owners are hanging on to them as they do not devalue and those will forever be the last STi…at least with a internal combustion engine, rumble and everything that defined them.

Who cares

​@davo the great you do. considering you commented

They will always be second.

@@oemj7147 what about you first one ?

If there was no way to make the GRC cheaper, I would definitely go with the WRX or maybe a clean, used EVO or wrx sti if you were looking for something more hardcore. I believe they're making a WRX TS or something for 2024 too so maybe wait for that?

The GRC is highly tuned yet the WRX is highly detuned. The VB is already an excellent platform to build off without the FA24DIT killing your wallet. Stock boost maxes out at 13.5 psi while the GRC is already pushing over 20 psi. The biggest weaknesses on the WRX in terms of performance are the brakes and transmission.

@@xtrekrexmagine sti has vb engine 🥶

I’ll try to set that up the moment I can!

there will be no sti for the new generation WRX.

It’s 10k+ less than the GR. Only cost 300$ to paint match and get rid of the plastic. Kind of sad people don’t modify “sports cars” 💀

Best of luck!

@@Realistick Thank you! LORD knows I will need all the luck I can get!

Is 91 considered mid? Where I live it’s 87, 89 (mid), and 93.

Mitsubishi castrated themselves years ago.

The real problem is the price hikes. This segment was supposed to be the ultimate bang for your buck performance. Now you got hot hatches for the same price as sports car.

That’s insane, here they are much closer, especially if you’re buying a premium or limited wrx! In the US, you can buy them like I did, you just have to put in some real effort with your search. I hope Canada gets more for 24.

Gr Corolla would destroy it lol

​@Mark Essa and it would also destroy your wallet too lmao Imagine paying 10k markup on a corolla lol you might as well just a supra 😂😂😂