Toyota Landcruiser 300 Series Pros and Cons 

Definitely a spot on con, lol.

Ha, love it! Thanks Reece, much appreciated!!!

Yes, that's what I was getting in the week I was using it every day. I've since read a few people say that the first couple of thousand km can see higher fuel consumption as the engine finds its feet, and the car was at that odometer. Potentially, this could account for discrepancy. As soon as you at some open road to just drive, it improved drastically for me. Even impressive. As for the internal size, I was really disappointed. Loved the drive experience, but they really missed the mark on the internal space given why Australians (in general) choose this car.

That's what many are saying in review and heard from owners too

Hi Greg, many thanks for bringing this up. It's important to hear of some of these longer-term negatives (and positives) that have come up since launch!

Cheers!

Lol! Indeed! At least you can get them for $1 each at garage sales now, lol. I did that with my Kluger. Stocked up on Disney DVDs at 50c each; kids = sorted. They take up a lot of space though.

I only found it bad in short burst drivng. On highways and long commutes it did pretty well.

I think that's a myth. Fuel consumption on all 70 and 200series Landcruisers went down in 2016 when the DPF (and piezo injectors) were introduced. But it is interesting to hear the fuel consumption increases so much when in the city. I blame the auto transmission which locks up on the highway but not around town. I have a 2019 78series with DPF and it is the most economical Landcruiser I have owned.

It will be interesting to see what happens with second hand market in a few years. Could be a lot of people who have over-capitalised if fuel prices go up and hybrids take over.

I tend not to flog $150K loan cars around busy city streets, lol. This was my experience when most trips were between 1km and 5km. Typical kind of at-home parent activities. Throw in one decent drive in that tank and it might come down a bit on average. But I was trying to make the point for those who buy these kinds of cars and then mostly do errands.

32-degrees I believe. Same as the 200 series. Worse than Pajero and Patrol, but not too dissimilar to others.

Unless you're too rich to care I guess. GXL is a sweetspot imo

The difference between errands and long trips on this car is so significant in my experience. It's a real shame given how the fuel price has gone since it came out!

Agreed!

Definitivamente parece que eles têm superfaturado este modelo.

So basically the same as me then. 8 on highway, 13 to 14 on most drives. Higher than that if you do nothing but small start-stop errands. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but the new engine is more powerful, so efficiency has been improved to retain status quo.

Lo siento, no sé la respuesta a eso.

There would be other new elements at play, however, to improve efficiency. So they can get more power while keeping fuel economy similar.

Yes, you are wrong.

I've come across this a bit in recent times, maybe it's becoming more common. But yeah, that's overkill.

Yep, very disappointing.

Agreed. I'm literally staring at three boxes of about 1000 CDs i bought in the 90s and love, wondering WTF to do with them.

Sorry, I don't understand your comment. Yes there's plenty underneath, but I still think it is overly expensive in comparison to every other 4WD in the market.

@@motivatedtravel By "underneath" I was referring to it's 4wd attributes and they cost money. It has twin fuel tanks to give sufficient range when remote; it has a separate chassis that has never been known to bend or break; it has a V6 motor, not a 4cyl and before that it had a V8; it has the best traction control in the business; even has 14mm wheel studs instead of the 12mm you find on other 4wds. The axle ratings are higher than others which is why you can get significant GVM upgrades; It has a real towing capacity where GCM=GVM+ATM. It has a full 350kg allowed on the towball. No drum brakes to be seen. Of course there are things above that cost money such as aluminium panels. Gadgets like electric tailgates are not of importance to 4wders. All 4wds have gone up a lot in price lately, but the Landcruiser unfortunately has suffered from price gouging by dealers because demand outstrips supply.

@@philg2468 Yeah no doubting it's a beast. But as a long time fan, it's not the dream 4WD it needed to be for me at the asking price. Did enjoy driving it though.

Lol! That's a fair comment!!

Of course, not necessarily about cost, but it's about range. Range is a very important factor in overlanding.

fuel efficiency is extremely important for optimum range when overlanding

Really?! Surely it's just a delay in taking orders so they can catch up on everything outstanding?

@scottpop11, you're correct! Toyota has ceased J300 production. They're preparing for the next gen, the J500. The current generation, J300, was "unintentionally" brought into production, it was just a prototype actually. The design files were mix-matched with J80 and J100 files, and bz4x design elements, that's why there are sooo many silly things, including that stupid DVD player, and cramped interior, "accidentally" brought into production, somehow. J500, they promised it'll no longer have a stupid DVD player. J500 will have a slightly longer wheelbase at 2950 mm for better interior space. J300 is 2850 mm, oddly same as J250. This is the first time in history for a "heavy-duty" Land Cruiser to have the same wheelbase as the "light-duty" Prado. J500 will have the next-gen powertrain, more powerful, yet much more fuel efficient, 5L/100km. That's the latest official info that I got directly from Toyota, in my dream, last night.