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Toyota Landcruiser LC300 FULLY EXPLAINED - offroad, towing, dirt, onroad review vs LC200 

L2SFBC - Robert Pepper - auto journo
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In May 2021 I became one of the first people outside Toyota to drive the new Toyota Landcruiser LC300 at a special preview event run by Toyota. We drove, back-to-back, a pre-production LC300 with two LC200s. We drove on bitumen, dirt, we towed and drove offroad. This video is all that I learned that day, plus everything else since to give you the best possible view of what the LC300 is, and is not.
On the support blog post you can find detailed differences between the six Australian models (far as we know them!) and answers to the questions/clarifications I guess this video will generate:
l2sfbc.com/LC300
Chapters - use this links to jump around the video:
00:00 Introduction & warning
00:32 What is the LC200/300?
01:00 About the LC300 test
03:37 Dimensions, angles, clearances
04:50 Weights
05:51 Landcrewness - Toyota's design philosophy for Landcruiser
09:30 Models, interior, exterior
12:48 Boot (trunk, cargo area)
13:51 Models and pricing (see website for detailed spec matrix)
15:46 Chassis
17:31 Engine overview
18:48 Fuel capacity, range and efficiency
19:27 The 3.3 diesel - do you need to be concerned about it?
25:46 Transmission
27:07 Maximum select vs command select
27:55 Suspension
29:52 E-KDSS
34:09 Wheels & tyres
35:27 Toyota accessories
36:19 Driving impressions - bitumen
38:50 Driving impressions - dirt
41:02 Driving impressions - towing
43:07 LC300 offroad systems explanation - overview
44:34 MTS - Multi Terrain Select explained
46:40 Drive Modes (onroad)
47:25 VDIM and AIM (Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management and AWD Integrated Management)
48:42 MTM - Multi Terrain Monitor
48:58 Crawl control
49:04 Cross-axle differential locks
52:04 GRC Gradient Release Control
52:28 Turn Assist
53:42 Driving impressions - offroad
57:14 Safety features including headlight systems (AHS/AHB)
57:18 What could the LC300 have been?
1:01:04 My final three thoughts to summarise
1:02:10 Competitors
(there may be a test to see if you can remember the 1000 or so LC300 acronyms)
You can also read my written review here:
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Комментарии : 319   
@juliandrake7862
@juliandrake7862 2 года назад
Excellent presentation with concise explanations - take it as high praise - I started my career as a Product Planning Engineer at Toyota handling LandCruiser 80 and the first Prado.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I do take that as high praise thank you!
@stolzhammer3239
@stolzhammer3239 2 года назад
The best of all of the Aussie review videos that hit RU-vid on 12 AUG 21. The only video to not pretend that the stock file footage was theirs was appreciated. Much more detail on the whole experience, but especially on the technical details. New subscriber here, well done.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Wow, thanks! Good to know what I did right too :-) Yes they supplied the camera crew; the footage is partially shared across all 6, and partially specific to me. The rest is taken off official Toyota videos, or my own stock, or me talking.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I hope to do a longer review yes
@G3meOver
@G3meOver 2 года назад
This is years of experience crammed into a 1 hour video review.
@nickroberts7070
@nickroberts7070 2 года назад
Great video Robert. Appreciate the professionalism and effort that you put into all of your work.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Much appreciated, that sort of comment keeps me going :-)
@lesleywhite6285
@lesleywhite6285 2 года назад
Wow!! A well constructed and detailed review. Love love love ACRONYMS!! 🤣🤣 Awesome work! 👍🏻
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@johnpaine7609
@johnpaine7609 2 года назад
Thanks for the great report. Look forward to your next drive/video
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks John
@paulczernotowycz2305
@paulczernotowycz2305 2 года назад
Comprehensive and no BS, well done!
@headingscrub9035
@headingscrub9035 2 года назад
Great work Robert thanks. The effort you put into your work is appreciated mate.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Much appreciated! Please share ;-)
@jimbojones2457
@jimbojones2457 2 года назад
What a fantastic, professional, factual and detailed real world review of a new vehicle! I see so many youtubers put up videos spewing absolute garbage with zero facts about what they're talking about. This is truly refreshing mate! SUBBED! Keep up the excellent work!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks much appreciated 👍
@lukebryce5097
@lukebryce5097 2 года назад
Really enjoyed, very thorough. Looking forward to more reviews on the 300
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks please share 👍
@ryanorchard
@ryanorchard 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks for the in depth explanations that others wouldn't bother with.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful! Please share :-)
@jeyaramanans
@jeyaramanans 2 года назад
Thanks for the very detailed master class. DId enlighten a lot on the tech behind LC300. The split tail gate was a disappointment. but certainly not a deal-breaker. Still wonder why I didn't stumble upon your channel earlier. Subscribed. Good on you. Keep up the great work!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you!
@davidqie
@davidqie 2 года назад
thanks for the amazing presentation, really appreciate your great effort!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
My pleasure!
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 2 года назад
One of the best channels on RU-vid! You deserve to have way more subs than you do! Keep up the good work and I'm sure you'll be found by the algorithm!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, will do! Please share :-)
@MohamedAlDoy
@MohamedAlDoy 2 года назад
I bought LC300 GR-S 3 weeks back thanks to your video Robert.👍
@V8LC100
@V8LC100 2 года назад
Excellent work Mr. Pepper. Thx for sharing for all of us Tojo fanboys.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
My pleasure! Please share :-)
@fakhruddin123
@fakhruddin123 2 года назад
This video should be made the Induction Video for all new LC300 owners. its so freaking solid. Big Thanks from Kuwait.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 2 года назад
Great job very thorough review.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you kindly! Please share :-)
@ianmoore4327
@ianmoore4327 2 года назад
Excellent review. As a 200 owner, I got a appreciation of the evolution of the LC. Well done.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks please share 👍
@Abu7929
@Abu7929 2 года назад
Great work well done. Car looks like a beauty! I had hoped for a large increase in payload but didn't realistically expect it
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
You and me both! 1000kg would be nice but we will take every kg we can get!
@Birdsville2014
@Birdsville2014 2 года назад
Excellent video! Many thanks!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you would appreciate a share 👍
@DC-ri2cn
@DC-ri2cn 2 года назад
Thank you mate. Appreciate your work.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
My pleasure! Please share :-)
@MadMatt4WD
@MadMatt4WD 2 года назад
Well Robert that was a very good video. You have actually made me want to take one for a run. I love that it's got some genuine offroad features that I can control as driver. The turn assist is exciting.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks much appreciated!!
@craigdavid6668
@craigdavid6668 2 года назад
Turn assist has been available for many years on the 200.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
It has...see my 200 video for more
@MadMatt4WD
@MadMatt4WD 2 года назад
@@craigdavid6668 I was more getting at the fact it will actually have some real Offroad advantage given you can leave the cdl engaged.
@followme4wd866
@followme4wd866 Год назад
Hi Robert, what a detailed and informative video as always. Im now 335 day waiting for my VX which is disappointing, but understandable. talk soon.
@GrenadierMichael
@GrenadierMichael 2 года назад
Robert … I don’t know of another motoring journalist anywhere in the world who produces videos with as much insight and information as you do.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@MadMatt4WD
@MadMatt4WD 2 года назад
Agree
@GrenadierMichael
@GrenadierMichael 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC I’ll be looking forward to you getting your hands on an Ineos Grenadier (next year?). 🙂
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I hope so too!!
@offroadingfoz
@offroadingfoz 2 года назад
That’s why his handbooks are invaluable
@ggzhhgao
@ggzhhgao 2 года назад
Thank you so much for such detailed review. I am not sure how much are the media restricted by toyota since you were invited to do the test, but I specially apprecite that you pointed out some of the issues of this prototype instead of just simply reading the script of how good this car is like others. Looking forward for a more independant review and comparison on the produciton model.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
We aren't directly restricted...but indirectly you can be blacklisted so there is an incentive to be nice to the car. I fall in and out of favour depending on who is running PR at the time and what I've said - there's at least one carmaker who isn't in my fan club right now, but you just have to wait as journalists usually outlast PR chiefs! Toyota have always been fair to me though. Even when I find things wrong with their spec sheets :-) I do think it is a good car though. I would own one and drive it anywhere. I like it.
@pinkipipe
@pinkipipe 2 года назад
Great job 👏🏻
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you! 😁 Please share!
@emiliacayabo2915
@emiliacayabo2915 2 года назад
Thanks for the information that I've watched
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@rossdrayton5476
@rossdrayton5476 2 года назад
You could teach the other journalists on how to provide consumer advice. Excellent review. Have now subscribed and liked. 👍🏻
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks and welcome!
@smashedhulk8492
@smashedhulk8492 2 года назад
Great work.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@nickjayawick610
@nickjayawick610 2 года назад
Nicely done
@ijbaker
@ijbaker 2 года назад
Absolutely informative review which goes way beyond anything else I've seen on the LC300 as of mid-August 2021. Well Done Robert!! BTW do we know if the new oiler will be AdBlue?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Sorry did not confirm
@dgh6673
@dgh6673 2 года назад
Brilliant!!
@wyattfamily8997
@wyattfamily8997 2 года назад
Excellent coverage of the majority of questions in the minds of prospective owners.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, please share :-)
@hlegends1913
@hlegends1913 2 года назад
GREAT presentation, couldn't skip anything, you covered everything perfectly, 😏 'considering some covering back seats ,leather and whatever else '!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Please share :-)
@johntowe4371
@johntowe4371 2 года назад
Thx very informative 👍
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks please share 👍
@motoring8407
@motoring8407 2 года назад
Just found you, great work, subscribed and will be a regular
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks Steve much appreciated 👍
@Daryl465
@Daryl465 2 года назад
Best LC300 video out there
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you..can you say why please?
@ggzhhgao
@ggzhhgao 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC There is not a single LC300 review that covers this much in details. Not to mention a comparison aganist the 200. You also did great in pointing out some of the issues of this prototype while others who releases at the same time only praise how great of a car it is and not mentioning any of the issues that you found.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Maybe they didn't find them!
@Daryl465
@Daryl465 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC so what size wheels and types do you think will fit on LC300 ?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I give it 47 seconds before someone slaps on 35s...I suspect they will fit with a lift. Obviously not a question I could ask Toyota!
@GodsEyeQLD
@GodsEyeQLD 2 года назад
This just made me love my LC200 even more
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Why so?
@nicolasrosa37
@nicolasrosa37 2 года назад
The one with the not so reliable 4.5 V8 and sluggish trans?
@Voltedge89
@Voltedge89 2 года назад
This video has all the information I needed before purchase. I am almost settled on buying the highest trim of the 300 series, I won't need to offroad for a while since I modified my Y62 to do the offroad duty it has 230k on it and still going as good as new. What is making me hesitant is that my y62 is still going strong but its getting a bit rough for daily driving due to modifications and the desire to drive something new is strong.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 года назад
Looks so much better than the Lexus variant we get in the states.
@ThePhantom41
@ThePhantom41 2 года назад
Really good coverage and teasing out of the details from information available. Toyota does appear to have built a decent jigger.
@philg2468
@philg2468 2 года назад
Fantastic review - thankyou for your effort and hard work to put it together. Uncommon tyre sizes and uncommon offset in a 6 stud rim. Might need to upsize to 285 to get taller tyres although some brands are available in a 265/70/18.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
There's quite a few tyres in 245/75/17 which is what I'd run. Try my tyre calculator -> l2sfbc.com/tyre-size-calculator/
@jasonsabeeney3208
@jasonsabeeney3208 2 года назад
Robert well done on the video. Very informative. I am very jealous you got to drive a 300 series so early on. A few comments. How much clearance is under the lift up tailgate? How tall are you? It looked like in the video that your head only just cleared the tailgate. Where you on a slope or was the ground relatively flat? Secondly a small correction Crawl in the 200 can be over ridden and it resumes again. That is certainly the case from 2012 onwards. Also are you sure all models have traditional KDSS? Apart from the Sport with E KDSS, Thanks again for taking the time to explain the detail.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Hi Jason - I would be 6ft 1 in my boots maybe a touch more and it was flat. Should have put that in. No models have KDSS except for GR Sport with E-KDSS. Thanks for the update.
@pratikshetty2908
@pratikshetty2908 2 месяца назад
Toyota should hire this guy, even they did not present their car in much details😅
@frankb3882
@frankb3882 2 года назад
That was a Very Interesting review on the LC 300 there Robert. I watched it from start to finish and rewinding it several times to clarify what you’ve said. Not reading other comments from others I was just wondering is the alternator and starter motor still at the bottom of the engine bay area. I have a 2016 79 series pre-DPF which runs extremely well but my main concern is river crossing and beach driving.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Wading depth 700mm and Toyota have focused on water sealing and placement so I wouldn't be concerned.
@Malc664
@Malc664 2 года назад
Fantastic schooling of the 300 series, thank you Robert. You've sold me on this car so I hope Toyota give you a really good deal if you wanted to buy one. 👍🏻
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Hah thanks, I'm actually looking at the new Ranger to replace my Ranger PX but if I was after a wagon, a GX would be on the list if I suddenly got another 100,000 subs or Patreons! I'm hoping to test a 300 for a while, got some interesting jobs in mind.
@Malc664
@Malc664 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC That's another interesting one. Is it the one that hasn't been released yet and may be a V6 diesel? I love the more American look of it. It will tow your 12ft camper van no worries.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Yes not released yet
@XillOverdrive
@XillOverdrive 2 года назад
this feels like an academic video, well done
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I am the Dirty Academic 😁😁😁
@briananddianehardy8598
@briananddianehardy8598 2 года назад
Robert, Thank you for your detailed review by far the best one, its great that you were able to compare the 200 series with the 300 series. I’ve read a couple of reviews and concerns regarding the new diesel motor and the potential build up heat so close to the underneath side of the bonnet, is there a need to be a concern regarding this?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I cannot say at the moment and my test was not long enough. I would however give Toyota benefit of the doubt on this. There is a bit of scaremongering going on to mine views and exploit natural distrust of new tech. I think an open minded approach is best with a degree of scepticism but I think Toyota would have a decent chance of getting it right.
@jamestreloar5827
@jamestreloar5827 Год назад
Thanks!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC Год назад
Thank you James, much appreciated!
@anbu999
@anbu999 2 года назад
Subscribed. I love your review probably the best one so far. Fair and logical. I agree with you, GX trim is the landcruiser to get, if you want comfortable people mover, other brand can do it better.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, yes save $47k over the GR Sport!
@xiaojack2952
@xiaojack2952 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC I heard LC200 KDSS will lead to hard lift suspension system, because of it car sway.
@sculder7
@sculder7 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Lots of good detail. Any idea what the RTI score is for the LC300?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 11 месяцев назад
No idea sorry
@cheromarickamazie7850
@cheromarickamazie7850 2 года назад
Amazing
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@Billydevito
@Billydevito 2 года назад
That was a lot of info! Thanks. Is the 10 speed a computer clutched auto, like a DSG, or a proper auto with a lockup converter?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Torque convertor auto with extra lock ups.
@davidconsalvo1711
@davidconsalvo1711 2 года назад
Great presentation, will be interesting to see how the new donk puts up with all the weight of accessories & tow weight in the real world, especially with 100k plus on the clock, ive owned 3 200's & still currently have 2 & can't say after comparing the two will be running off to my local dealer to drop the hammer on a new one.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks that's good insight. Would like to see your views a couple of years in. Time proves...
@donmclean1894
@donmclean1894 2 года назад
Great review Robert With all the new electrics has the 300 got remote start
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Not that I've seen and thank you
@Mvishnoi
@Mvishnoi 2 года назад
In depth analysis , clarity , simple delivery , top class auto journalism , you mate IMHO tied in with Thomas @ autogheuful as the best out there by a mile , I might have missed this , in terms of comfort refinement Where would you place it amongst its competitors?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Very high due to the soft long travel suspension for primary ride quality. Secondary ride good too. Thank you for the feedback!
@mobalance4736
@mobalance4736 2 года назад
Awesome vehicle.
@larkhill2119
@larkhill2119 2 года назад
Bugger have to buy one now.
@offroadingfoz
@offroadingfoz 2 года назад
Good broad coverage, interesting some things you mentioned by text only… why no tire pressure monitoring for Australian vehicles? Well done.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Why only text? Basically running out of time to re-shoot the video, and also it's long enough as it is. With text I can double up on info. TPMS is not mandatory for Australian vehicles so that's why it is rarely included. I think it should be mandatory as it's a great safety feature.
@Gemini_0815
@Gemini_0815 2 года назад
Very nice video again Robert. A remark regarding the tires section: 17” rims are not saving weight compared to larger rims with identical wheel size because the tires are heavier. Also, there is a very noticeable difference in handling between a 17” 70 section and an 18” 65 section. I know this from experience because I’m running both 17” and 18” on my Prado. 18” in my case are Winter tires, 17” are Summer tires. The 17” are much softer and vehicle control is so much worse. But I use the car in off-road situations in summer, so I keep the small rims.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
No, low-profile tyres are heavier than higher-profile. I have weighed many of them and there will be a video on this in due course - you gain weight by going from 17 to 18, all else being equal, as the rim weight is more than the tyre weight. There is certainly a handling difference with profiles and the best carmarkers even change their ESC and suspension calibration according to profile, but 65 to 70 is hard to pick and I suspect the differences between summer and winter tyres are greater than the profile.
@Gemini_0815
@Gemini_0815 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC interesting, thanks for the response. I will put my wheels on a scale next April when I swap to summer tires again and will provide you with the results :)
@angelotsi849
@angelotsi849 2 года назад
Hi Robert, are you planning on updating to the 300 from the Ranger?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
No planning on the new Ranger now! And NOT a megabuild throw everything at it!
@davidbutler3661
@davidbutler3661 2 года назад
Thanks for all the information. I am seriously looking at upgrading my 105 landcruiser that I bought new in 2005 for a 300 GX. 470 K of virtually trouble free motoring except for 4 air conditioner fixes will be hard to beat though. I just hope the V6 will be reliable.
@paulmcintosh5589
@paulmcintosh5589 2 года назад
Hot v6 engine, 2 turbos sitting in the middle of the v shaped engine it will be interesting when the tuners start making them hotter with more fuel, Is the starter motor still in the middle as well?? Like the diesel v8.
@paulmcintosh5589
@paulmcintosh5589 2 года назад
Mean while diesel fuel quality is terrible, with these highly technical injection systems this will be interesting for this engine, petrol is far more forgiving.
@aaroncarlton2619
@aaroncarlton2619 2 года назад
well done Robert , i notice that they have now released the Tundra in the states with a hybrid option and i am thinking it is on the same chassis as the 300. shame they dont look at bringing that in - would save a lot of people doing chops on the wagons ! cheers ATOC
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Agreed!!!
@crewzincool
@crewzincool 2 года назад
Nice educational info thanks.looks like a great upgrade. Would have liked to see the petrol engine in Australia. I've really gone off Diesel engines for reliablity
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Same!!
@modog6488
@modog6488 2 года назад
Amazing Rob, you come across as one that has experience in research and design. Your detailed assessment with all the facts to back is the most educated and balanced review I have ever watched. Some things that stood out: - Pitch of the 300 with the bullbar and seeing how unstable in comparison with the 200 without. How can data be affected by this, do they have front suspension to pair with the bar as a package to fix? - You put the high power small engine by just upping boost theory to bed by explaining how the engine gains more power. This is so complicated and left to the computers to do it’s job. Time will tell if a touring trip is ruined by 1 sensor out of how many? But the graph of the power and reliability shows that Toyota designs with that in mind. So time will tell. I watched another review that was with you and it was pathetic. I could’ve done better. Saying that because it was all info on a brochure and said yeah drives better. That’s it and they are a well known. Plenty of car journalists out there who just drive down a road but not many like you. Well done mate!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, much appreciated! Suspension design is a real science with a bit of art. I intend to do more on it. Basically a bar and winch is a fair bit of weight in a terrible, terrible place for vehicle dynamics; the only places worse are right at the back end (think dual wheel carrier) or on the roof. Anyway, it's not just the extra weight, it's the location of the weight - because it's ahead of the front axle there's more weight added to the front axle than mass. So say it's 50kg mass all up, there may be 60kg of weight added to the front axle, and 10kg off the rear. Then that weight is a long way from the centre of gravity, so there's what we call a moment (similar to a lever). Hence the pitch, and why ANY vehicle with a bar/winch needs a stiffer front end. Also part of the suspension travel is used up by the weight so you'll get to the bumpstops quicker, and that slightly changes the camber of IFS. I could go on but you get the idea. Anyway, it is entirely possible to plug the numbers into a computer which would tell you the new spring rate and damper settings for the front, and if you're being really good, then you change the rear too but not as much so it's balanced. Then you test to be sure. I forgot to edit in my bit about the hot V config which will also help the efficiency ie power per L of capacity. I've added a note to it on the support blog post. Yes I try and explain why so viewers can make up their own minds. The 300 does drive better, but it's not enough of a difference to really notice from a handling perspective compared to an LC200. But that doesn't mean the 300 isn't overall a better car.
@modog6488
@modog6488 2 года назад
Fantastic, I understand very much about the weight balance. Toyota clearly puts alot of thought so much so to move the engine back 70mm for that very reason. When I ordered front suspension for my car I was asked about bar and winch and I was given one to suit. I will have at look at the link you put up on the hot V efficiency. Very interesting your info, and on a different note, I learnt about transmission windup today. I activate 4wd low when reversing my caravan up my steep driveway to save riding the clutch but I hear the tyres jerk, now I know why. Thanks again Rob
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
My pleasure! If you can engage low range without locking your centre diff then do so, or if part time, unlock the hubs and engage 4wd low range.
@backdoc94
@backdoc94 2 года назад
The GX or GLX might be a great option instead of the Grenadier I have been considering. I would like to see when a GVM upgrade becomes available and have it performed pre-registration.
@eshakhan8799
@eshakhan8799 2 года назад
Great
@SixtyFo
@SixtyFo 2 года назад
Do you have any information about being able to options things like E-KDSS and or the diff locks for trim levels other than the GR sport?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Not yet. At the full press launch I expect to. I do expect aftermarket lockers.
@dr.edsozfamilytravel
@dr.edsozfamilytravel 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks . I have a question. With Toyota TSC towing stability control would I still need a dexter stability control fitted on my caravan?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Answer -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ie_szIujKYI.html
@dr.edsozfamilytravel
@dr.edsozfamilytravel 2 года назад
Thank you. I guess it’s okay to have both then. That’s more protection. I thought it will interfere in its operations. Thanks so much for the education. Much appreciated mate. Take care and stay safe. Waiting for more of your educational videos.
@Legaleze
@Legaleze 2 года назад
Well who’s a lucky boy then eh Robert? 😉👍
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Me!!!
@PatrickRich
@PatrickRich 2 года назад
This is fantastic!. I do have a couple of corrections. The fan is coupled mechanically, but it's electronically controlled. Not electric. If the Transfer case is still using the same Torsen center diff as the 200 the nominal split isn't 50/50. It's 40/60 front/rear.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, possibly I misunderstood the engineers then...another clarification!
@charlesanim-mensah359
@charlesanim-mensah359 2 года назад
I really like the way u chipped in the correction and also love the how he appreciated your correction and must say i like what I've learnt today. Thanks to both
@MrGgraham76
@MrGgraham76 2 года назад
great video! trying to understand the reduction in fuel tank size and range, but they have obviously prioritised payload at this stage. Surely the 5 seater would come with more traditional sized tank, or maybe its smaller to allow for "future efficiencies".
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Possibly also for AdBlue (DEF)
@davidlewington3324
@davidlewington3324 Год назад
Great to see a reviewer that does not appear agenda driven, either biased to the product itself or to their own channel's traffic potential. I subscribed for that reason, good information that seeks to inform and educate and with similarly informed opinions based on reasoning and explanation. What some may refer to as good "signal to noise" in scientific jargon. Did we ever find out if the 300 GRS front and rear lockers, when individually applied, cancel traction control for the other axle? Also, do the other models of the 300 have sway bars that are fixed and potentially better for on-road dynamics ? There was some question about the e-kdss increasing body roll around corners at speed.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC Год назад
I didn't finalise that question but I will ask again.E-KDSS should minimise body roll to at least that of the standard cars; it's more of a disconnect for offroad than a onroad design.
@davidlewington3324
@davidlewington3324 Год назад
@@L2SFBC it would be great to see an updated review to tie up loose ends and see how things have panned out ..oil usage,hot v6,body roll grs vs other 300,traction control off if locking other cross axle etc
@richardmalone3172
@richardmalone3172 2 года назад
I liked canaverous. Did you mean cavernous? Great review. Thanks.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Was thinking of the lunch I'd missed out on to work through so a bit of carnivorous got in there :-)
@Agent.K.
@Agent.K. 2 года назад
25:30 What’s the best distribution? Front heavy or rear heavy? And did you mention why narrow tyres are better? I watched twice but missed the part if so.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
For a 4X4 that carries load in the back, front-heavy is best. If the vehicle carries no load, then 50/50. For mid-engine sports cars, a rear distribution is best eg 60/40. Narrow/thin but tall tyres are best offroad. Onroad, there are some benefits to wider. Low profiles are generally awful especially offroad. I will explain all this in future videos. My next one will deal with a Lotus Elise which touches on the subject for sports cars but there will be a proper explanation.
@Agent.K.
@Agent.K. 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC Thanks for answering. I highly appreciate your work and believe you’re one of the best and most knowledgable guys in automotive industry 🙏
@sayembinalam3795
@sayembinalam3795 5 месяцев назад
Thank
@tempestv8
@tempestv8 2 года назад
Any idea why the GX has a different offset wheel to the rest of the models? And what a shame Toyota isn't offering diff locks on the rest of the range. Even a Prado GXL now comes with rear diff lock as a standard factory fitment. Single or twin cranking batteries? Is the loading height for the cargo area higher or lower compared to the 200 Series? Is the alternator placement better on the 300 Series? Timing belt or chain? What capacity winch is Toyota offering as an accessory for that alloy bar? Are the DPFs mounted low like the 200 Series or higher up? How well is the intercooler protected? Is over bonnet visibility better or worse compared to 200? Does the GX have air con vents to the 2nd row seats? How does the electric steering feel compared to the 200's hydraulic system? What viscosity engine oil does the diesel use? Great review of the 300 Series - the best I have seen so far! Well done!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Hi and first thanks! Answers: 1. different offset wheel as the tyre is narrower 245 vs 265, and therefore requires a narrower rim but the width must be the same or close. The 245 would be lighter than the 265 for sure contributing to the GX's best payload figure. 2. Don't know re batteries. 3. Loading height wasn't measured is about the same. 4. Alternator - didn't get a chance to see, but Toyota have gone on about waterproofing so I expect it would be ok. 5. DPFs sorry don't know 6. Alternator don't know either, or its capacity (did ask) 7. Winch. Didn't see. Would expect 9500l which is fine for the 300 (see my snatch block videos for wjy) 8. Over bonnet same as 200. 9. No idea re GX, there wasn't one to look at. 10. Electric steering feels fine compared to 200. The only thing wrong with EPS is whoever built it. You can argue the point for very specialised sportscars but not for 2500kg 4X4s. It's just better. 11. No idea re oil. I'll plan to cover these if I get onto the press launch where we can actually spend more time with Aussie spec vehicles. It was a very rushed 3/4 day...even went without lunch so I could get more done!
@philt2485
@philt2485 2 года назад
At 10:55 you mention the AC220W/100W socket. Is this modified OR pure sine wave?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Sorry don't know
@garyedwards5208
@garyedwards5208 2 года назад
I got the impression that access to the spare wheel, was under the floor, via access with the rear tailgate up. Is that correct, do you have to unpack everything to get to the spare?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Sorry I didn't check that. Will look at it plus lots of other things on a production car.
@boyardosalmon
@boyardosalmon 2 года назад
Great video! Thank you Robert! Why would Toyota turn off breaking traction control on the unlocked axle? That makes the Ranger more capable than the Hilux for example both rear locked. Did you had a chance to ask them that? I think it can be a huge disadvantage. Cheers from Mexico!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I don't know and didn't get an answer. Odd as the Prado 150 and others don't. Possibly it was a pre-production thing.
@JohnRolyAU
@JohnRolyAU 2 года назад
I bought a 200 Sahara in 2010, it now has 155K on it and it is heavily modified and highly maintained. I'm excited to move to a 300. Can't wait.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Why so?
@JohnRolyAU
@JohnRolyAU 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC I lot has changed in 11 years since I built the 200 with accessories. Starting with a clean sheet and rethinking how much I'd do differently this time. The 200 was retired from daily driver duties about 5 years ago and just sits in the garage.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
How would the build be different this time ?
@JohnRolyAU
@JohnRolyAU 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC The 200 was built over time. The 300 I would strip and build in 1 hit. Carefully planned electrics, LIthium only, Redarc or Enerdrive, Probably no winch (I've used my current one, once in 11 years). I would weigh every component added to the 300 and find the lightest option possible. (200 have GVM and GCM upgrade)
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Sounds just like my next build! Keen to see your weight data
@jacobrutherford2407
@jacobrutherford2407 2 года назад
The smaller petrol is more powerful? Did u mix those around?
@petermenzies1714
@petermenzies1714 2 года назад
Great unbiased appraisal, typical progression which is what most buyers want if they use this vehicle for it’s designed purpose. There are already enough hair stylist cars out there! Hope Toyota stay true to their credentials & much lauded reliability??? Not sure this is maintainable in 10-15 years time though?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
At least as maintainable as any other car....
@Coastmac2001
@Coastmac2001 2 года назад
They were pre production mules only , not able to be sold & only on a restricted registration . Sales start today 7/12, with some owners being able to finally get their vehicles . Full dealer stocks available before the end of this wk
@iMernerner
@iMernerner 2 года назад
Front overhang.... Is... somewhat Long. 32degree of approach angle is good. it takes 17inch rims. That's another plus
@holgermuller2987
@holgermuller2987 2 года назад
Hi Robert. Looking into it now.. no split rear door!! Just wonder who will jump on it to make it for aftermarket !!
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I doubt anyone will. Possibly make a pull-out table instead so kind of best of both worlds.
@offroadingfoz
@offroadingfoz 2 года назад
Hopefully it solves their dust seal issues of 200’s past.
@tyronebarnett537
@tyronebarnett537 2 года назад
Do you think when the new prado comes out it will share the engine?
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
If it will, detuned a bit
@bcatz454
@bcatz454 2 года назад
Since BTC is disabled when OEM lockers are selected, this makes it such an easy decision to get one without the oem lockers. Will fit aftermarket lockers on, so I can still have brake traction control and individual locker
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Hopefully that won't be the case on production versions...but you could also go twin-locked. However, the cost of the GR Sport is a little crazy compared to the GX!
@jeffray8780
@jeffray8780 2 года назад
Great review Robert - as expected. Took one for a drive yesterday. A beast! quiet, comfortable. Great for towing large and heavy things no doubt, but the pricing? Ouch. The two holy grails of LANDCRUISER - fuel capacity and second battery under bonnet. No space for second battery any longer. That's a real shame. After, jumped into the latest Prado as well. ALC300 makes Prado a 'small' car by comparison but the updated 2020 engine gets around pretty well in city traffic. Like to see what they do with the next Prado but I can't wait that long.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks, and yes it is pricey but it has the reputation and they are selling so you can't blame Toyota for pricing high!
@Gemini_0815
@Gemini_0815 2 года назад
You’re right. The Defenders boot is too small. But that’s due to the longer wheel base and more space for the 2nd row passengers. Overall the boot & interior space would be about equal to a LC300. In terms of pure capability, the Defender is far ahead the Toyota (both on and off-road). Land Rovers traction control is far superior. Plus they have air suspension. Reliability is obviously a pressing question. If your life depends on it, don’t get a new car. Time will tell if the new LC is still reliable. The Defender had some problems first, I’m not sure how it’s currently doing.
@alexjumba
@alexjumba 2 года назад
Great analysis. @ 40:39 the vehicle labels are reversed
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Oops so they are, good pickup!!!
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 2 года назад
Keen to see the 300 series fully loaded up and doing the Canning Stock Route. Andrew SP White claimed his stock 200 series completed the entire track without a mechanical failure. I think that's a worthy test for any offroad vehicle.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Any vehicle could do the Canning if prepared properly and driven properly. The Mercedes failure was due to poor prep and too fast driving so not a good comparison. Got to have all the context.
@stevephillips6992
@stevephillips6992 2 года назад
Andrew SP said stock, so to compare apples to apples, no prep, just fluids and diesel and food
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
It'd do it as would many other 4x4s. I took two Chinese 4x4s across the Simpson stock standard even tyres.
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC If it was in a convoy wouldn't they all be doing the same speed? You are correct apples to apples and I don't have all the details. Just hard to prove the durability of a new vehicle based on press notes and a few hours of driving in easy conditions.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I agree and I'm not making any such claim. The Mercedes convoy tried to do too much too quickly and that was the problem.
@bvward
@bvward 2 года назад
Robert, sounds like the 10 speed gearbox is approaching CVT powerband .) Nice write up. Silly question - was the Cyrillic on the slides Russian or Ukrainian? Alas, we'll never see it in the 'States.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
It was Russian yes. A lot of the static footage was taken from Toyota's various channels around the world. It was interesting to see how each country developed their own take on the LC300. In the case of Russia they had a mobster and three henchmen discuss the vehicle's suitability suitability for gang warfare.
@bvward
@bvward 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC Спасибо товарищ! (Thank you, comrade) ;)
@felicitycity2729
@felicitycity2729 2 года назад
Wow nice 🌷🌹👍👍👍
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 2 года назад
thank you for the great detailed video still keep Isuzu 300/75 4x4 crew cab as still do the same job as better on fuel that Toyota carry 6 people and 1500kg and tow 3500kg
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I see your point!
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 2 года назад
IRS doesn't not increase dynamic clearances. Due to short control arms and the need for the control arms to move through their entire arc to provide suspension travel, ground clearance becomes dynamic based on load. Thus causing the suspension to lower well past the ground clearance of a solid axle.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Depends on the design. Generally, you do get better ground clerance, and yes it lowers, but not generally beyond the equivalent live axlen unless the front end is quite soft and you're heading downhill. I say this based on extensive real-world testing, plus having owned live, IFS, and IFS/IRS vehicles.
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC I sold my Ranger and purchased a GU Patrol and this was one of the factors. The ability to travel at speed in deep ruts without bottoming out is a significant advantage. The Ranger would frequently have the lower subframe contact the ground. It really depends on the terrain you are driving on.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Yes I see your point 👍 and that would also be Toyota's point wrt the 80 Series haaving good rough-terrain ride. And also the live axles flexing downwards as one end is lifted up.
@williamtio888
@williamtio888 3 месяца назад
how do we know when the sub tank start being used? every time i pump at the gas station from empty i can only pump up around 68L.
@drjenschn
@drjenschn 2 года назад
Dude, great video, but none of your in-video "check this out" links work properly...
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
Thanks will look at that
@drjenschn
@drjenschn 2 года назад
@@L2SFBC Cool. Honestly, best video I found while looking for someone who "takes the LC 300" apart rather than just walking around it with a camera and saying (oversimplifying here, but essentially:) oooh, look, shiny, shiny! Absolutely fantastic.
@spencerm106
@spencerm106 2 года назад
Absolute shame we aren't getting that petrol. I don't understand what Australia's obsession with diesel is. The low down torque argument doesn't really hold true anymore when you look at these new petrol engines coming out. Good video again Rob 👍 keep them coming.
@L2SFBC
@L2SFBC 2 года назад
I don't either. The low down torque argument has not been true for years.
@spencerm106
@spencerm106 2 года назад
Agreed, I convinced myself with my first Prado, a 2011 with the updated 4.0L V6. Beautiful motor that was. Now I have a 2012 with the 3.0L diesel and it stinks in comparison, only about 1-2L/100km better on the juice too.
@christurner68
@christurner68 2 года назад
What is the obsession with petrol? The a place for both. Petrol for the shopping centre runs and diesel for getting out there👍
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete 2 года назад
Due to the high cylinder pressures of diesel combustion, diesel engines must be designed with significantly more strength, durability in mind. This allows for significantly greater life span of the engine.
@turps11
@turps11 2 года назад
I agree petrol engines have very little negative. Engine braking or low rpm torque. Pretty much irrelevant since no ones getting a manual. The auto will compensate for where ever the engine has its power and torque. Prime example is the Patrol. Less torque than the 200series. But tows everything just as well. Diesels last longer I think is long gone. This is not the 80’s. And we aren’t running poorly tuned carbys. Driven and serviced the same. Both will last longer than the first two owners will care. As petrol for the city and diesel for travel. Until every Zuk Sierra and motor bike are converted to diesel. Petrol will be available everywhere. Also I have read of diesel being intermittently available where a petrol has always been available. So many good petrol engines are available in other markets. It’s a shame they don’t come to Aust. And now with Toyota having there 1st modern tech petrol 4wd engine in 30yrs. It’s a real shame.
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