I love my RX330, just hit 165k miles and have put 28k of those on in the last 9-months. The AWD system has been decent enough to get through the snowy winter and it has been safe while being cozy. We're thinking about buying a new Lexus, well not brand new, I hate eating the initial depreciation, but one that is 2-3 years of age. Some one this year has bought the car I want and is eating that depreciation for me, thanks whoever you are!
Big props to Tommy. I have been following TFL since its initiation although I haven't been a subscriber since the beginning. You are the greatest star of this channel IMO and feel that you do an amazing job reviewing vehicles. It's almost as if you know exactly what I'm looking for in the review. Keep em coming.
Wait did he ever put it in snow mode? Maybe there’s different logic in the system when you’re putting in the proper snow mode? Keeps saying normal mode and traction control off make no sense to me traction control on snow mode?
Wow! On the rollers you put the metal to the pedal. This all wheel drive system by Lexus/Toyota is put into perspective. To school, to work and back only system❤
Exactly! TFL puts these vehicles through way more than 99%of the people who drive them. I’ve driven my rav4 hybrid through over 1 foot of snow with no problems at all. Winter tires of course. Tommy drove my car up a Rocky Mountain road. 🤷🏻♂️ I definitely wouldn’t.
Love the Slip Test. TFL needs a leader board. BTW Tommy has the start of an eclectic car collection in his gorgeous new garage. Look forward to filling the space.
The Toyota AWD system is the #1 reason why I haven’t moved over to a Rav-4 from my Jeep Patriot. I’d love all the other features, but some of the trails I go on, I’ll only have 1 wheel with decent traction and it pulls through. Hoped the Rav5 TRD models would have improved more upon that, but it appears they are more for driving fast on gravel/dirt roads.
I think I had less than 100 miles before I got rid of the noisy, poor snow OEM Bridgestone run-flats for a set of Michelin CrossClime 2-( 3 peak snow rated but all season tires). LOL. I really like the Toyota/Lexus E-AWD design tradepoffs-- good enough for typical on-road snow/set road conditions, but has the no maintenance electrical rear motor and little MPG hit of a mechanical AWD system with its clutches/viscous coupling issues. Plus you know do get some region or the read breaking vs one without AWD.
hey can you try slip test with little application of brake too. little bit break application may push to car to use more break on the slipping tire/wheel.
Very good test, but the rollers don't provide enough drag/traction to make the simulation as realistic as you would have in moderately deep snow. The vehicle should sense the slip and reduce it, with torque vectoring to the wheel not slipping. Your effort to simulate real world conditions is awesome. You are pointing out very well... that all seasons aren't all season.
Tommy, The 39 mpg is outstanding and the AWD system does what it says it will do on the label. It is a pity Lexus does not equip its test fleet with seasonally appropriate tires . 🤨
When EV's this size only need .80 cents to go 40 miles while charging home the writing is on the wall for Toyota/Lexus. See Toyota sales compare to Tesla in California where the Japanese used to rule!
This appears to be a Lexus AWD fail. I think that a vehicle must be able to free itself with one back wheel if the manufacturer is going to use the AWD badge. Otherwise it’s only 2WD or 3WD…
In the US, the NX 350h owners manual, says premium 91 premium preferred, but 87 (regular) is the min. Only the 350 turbo requires premium 91 mim. I just use regular in my 350h and most others on a Lexus NX owners forum forum do the same no pings or noticeable loss of power.. But as usual, there is always some controvers over power and eginine damage with req,, so if in doubt, just use premium. Myself, I have another Toyota V6, which has the same owners manual gas stipulation.- prep preferred, reg is min. It has 165k miles on regular only.
Definitely a warm climate car for tracking. Not the set-up for severe Winter driving. Others do it much better. That very low hung massive cow-catcher grill scares me for how low it hangs.
Why make the Lexus awd if it can't get you out of awd situations? Sounds like the Lexus system is just a fwd powertrain and they added rear electric motors to charge more and check the hybrid EV mode with some awd traction.
It did well in the real world. The rollers are so extreme as they provide zero traction when in real life even snow still provides some. Especially with the correct tires it will be perfectly fine. The e -awd is worth it as it saves 3-5mpg over awd.
@@slscamg Seems like it is just a programming issue for the rear electric motors to perform a bit better in 3 slip situations? Acura had a rear tq vectoring twin electric motors for its discontinued Sport Hybrid system that could provide traction and vary tq left or right. Not sure if the 350h or 500h provides the same level of sportiness+bad weather traction as the Acura Sport Hybrid sh-awd did?
@@mrgold3591 I think the problem is by design to send enough power to the rear. The engine needs to be on and running so you’re going to have to have the front wheel slip but you are right in that the traction control system should better recognize a zero traction situation, and just throw the brakes on the spinning wheel in the back.
so normal mode. two opposite wheels with grip: wheels on the ground have enough torque to spin. 1 front with grip in offroad mode or in normal: the wheel on the ground doesn't even try: if there's no connection between axles how is that possible??? and then again in trail mode. rear doesn't even kick in at all. really hard to understand the logic. And then when brenden pushes rear kicks on and once off the rollers. you can even see both wheels spinning during the slowmo shot at 8:21.... I think the system can do it. but it is really badly optimised and inconsistent. Maybe in a second try it would have done it but a third one would not work again...really really weird.
Really don’t understand why car manufacturers don’t run the same tests, considering most of the time it would just need a software tweak to make it perfect.
@@andrzejbudzynski9237 I'm a big Toyota fanboy, trust me. But other manufacturers are passing these tests with vehicles in this same class. So this bothers me.
sorry...but these sustems are WAY to slow to react. i know,cause i see my AWD system react slowly in snow. by the time it does, the control is lost. wheel slippage and reaction should be far faster. this is slow enough for off-roading, but terrible for driving around corners in snow.
@@Redhawk24 are you here just to show you have a firm grasp of the obvious!!!! so why are they putting these systems in all the cars today? knowing that "snow" tires are for this, why are we having this stupid test here today on a lexus??????????????????? don't snow tires fit lexus cars????????????
