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Toyota Rav4 Prime VS Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV comparison

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This is a Motormouth couple car comparison of the Toyota RAV4 Prime plug-in versus the Hyundai Sonata Fe PHEV, also a plug-in hybrid SUV.The Toyota RAV4 Prime has a 2.5L 4-cylinder engine with Toyota’s hybrid system and an ECVT, 302 horsepower and 68 km/ 42 miles of EV range and standard AWD. It has an 18.8 kWh battery and you can put regular fuel in this RAV4 Prime. The Santa Fe PHEV has a 1.6L turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with an electric motor, a 6-speed automatic transmission and a combined 261 horsepower. It offers standard AWD and 50 km/30 miles of EV range. It has a 13.8 kWh battery and you can put regular fuel in this Santa Fe PHEV. For EV rebates in Canada, the RAV4 Prime with an 18.8 kWh battery qualifies for the full Federal rebate of $5,000. The Santa Fe with a 13.8 kWh battery qualifies for half, $2,500. Electrified vehicles need to have a battery that is 15 kWh or larger to qualify for the full Federal EV rebate. There are also Provincial rebates available in most Provinces but there are some that don't participate, Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Ontario. In the US, the Santa Fe qualifies for a tax credit up to $6,587 and the RAV4 Prime $7,500. The RAV4 Prime comes standard with a 6.6 kW onboard charger in Canada. In the US, you get a 3.3 kW charger but a 6.6 kW charger is available in a package. With a 3.3kW charger and a 120-volt outlet, your charging time is 12 hours and with a 240 volt outlet, it’s 4.5 hours. With a 6.6kW charger and a 240-volt outlet, your charging time is 2.5 hours The Santa Fe comes with a 3.3 kW onboard charger. With a 120-volt outlet, your charging time is 10.5 hours and with a 240-volt outlet, it’s 3.4 hours. The RAV4 Prime has a comfortable, practical and versatile interior with plenty of storage with the battery mounted underneath the floor. Standard features include, an 8-inch touchscreen, a 7-inch multi-information display, Apple Carplay and Android Auto, heated front and rear cloth seats, 8-way power driver’s seat and a heated steering wheel. In the US, a heated steering wheel is not standard, packages are available to add extra features. The top trim is where you’ll find the larger 9” touchscreen, a wireless charger and mixed Softtex and fabric seats. Add the Technology package to get driver seat memory, a power passenger seat, ventilated front seats, a head-up display and an 11-speaker JBL Audio system.
Hyundai vehicles are becoming more upscale and you can see it in this interior with quilted leather seats, a 12.3” digital driver display, a convenient and practical floating centre console with lots of storage. There are plenty of physical buttons in the cabin including a button shifter and you will find it to be open, spacious and comfortable. The battery pack is located under the front passenger seat, so it has no impact on cabin or cargo space.
Some standard features include, an 8-inch touchscreen, wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto, leather-seating surfaces, heated front seats, a leather wrapped heated steering wheel and 8 way power driver and passenger seats. The top trim is where you’ll find ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, a wireless charger, the digital driver display, 4-way power driver’s lumbar support, a panoramic sunroof and proximity activated smart liftgate. There is no head-up display available in this PHEV or the option of the larger 10.25” touchscreen in Canada, it is available in the US.
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@bobvanwest 2 года назад

I drove the Rav4, Venza, Tucson and Santa Fe. Hands down, the Santa Fe had more room, better options than the Rav4 or Venza. We do lots of driving and comfort is prime. The Rav4 and Venza have a much harder drive. When we went across the railroad tracks, you felt the clunk. I went faster in the Santa Fe and Tucson and it was much smoother of a ride. The panoramic moon roof is much nicer than the moon roof on the Rav4. No moonroof on the Venza except in the Limited edition. For us, the Tucson didn't have the cargo room so that was a no. The Venza and Rav4 do not have the cargo space the Santa Fe has. Overall, (and also being a Toyota owner for 35 years), the Santa Fe will be my next purchase.

@qaztzaq 2 года назад

Couldn’t agree more.

@shelli-ann9369 Год назад

Awesome, I couldn't decide, your opinion helps me

@johnjames7712 2 года назад

I’m the follower from Texas that Andrea mentioned in the video. I placed my deposit down on 12/4 and just told them what I wanted ( Prime SE, with or without weather package is fine, color doesn’t matter) as I read before it is easier to get one if you’re not very specific. Several hours later, got a call that THREE SE’s were being allocated, one was spoken for and two were not. I put my name on one and it’ll be here hopefully within the next week. As Zack mentioned in the video, us being in Texas could be why we got one. TMNA headquarters are in Plano, TX (about a 3 hour drive from where I live in Austin) and I have visited Toyota of Plano a few times while in Dallas, and when I inquired about Prime’s and their proximity to headquarters, they said it doesn’t matter, because Texas is not a ZEV state, so the allocations will go mostly to the ZEV states instead. In this case, I just got lucky. Hope this helps anyone else.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Congrats, let us know how you like it!

@bho6486 2 года назад

I was at the Toyota dealership in North Vancouver last week and the salesperson told me it was now a 3 to 4 year wait for a new RAV4 Prime. Yikes! So glad we bought our Venza Limited when we did. No dealerships had the one we wanted but there was one on a ship on it's way to Vancouver. So we bought that one off the boat. And we love it!

@thomasklein4265 2 года назад

2022 car shopping, you can't buy what they don't have, and most manufacturers can't make enough cars, Ford Lightning, Ford Maverick Hybrid, VW ID4, Kia Sorrento PHEV, Hyundai Tucson PHEV, Ionic 5 EV, Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV, there all in short supply.

@raypistilli 2 года назад

Hands down the Santa Fe PHEV. The RAV4 is outdated and the interior and tech really shows it. Less room on the inside as well and not even seatback pockets in the backseat area? Talk about shaving the pennies. The Santa Fe is a new generation SUV built on an all new platform so the benefits really show with its space interior. The configurable backseat and underfloor storage are absolute musts for us and our growing family. The ONLY thing going for the RAV4 is the hybrid powertrain and their "reliability" depending on who you talk to. Talk to my aunt who owns a 16' Highlander and you'll hear how Toyota is not everything they used to be. As the Hyundai ads say- they've come "a long long way"

@10OF9OFBORG 2 года назад

😆 Like you said Andrea, Zack is not in Santa’s list. 😆 Both vehicles are good but my real winner is Santa Fe for great interior design. Great review Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻☕️☕️

@jlee6x3 2 года назад

I have the Santa Fe PHEV and I am very satisfied with it. Works perfectly for the commute to work and not missing any of the things Prime have to offer over this, + enjoying all the little extras that the Santa Fe offers over Prime. It may not be as efficient or have as much range as the Prime, but for us it works out just fine.

@tolu.a9725 2 года назад

Good choice! I own a Santa Fe Hybrid Limited and I have enjoyed it since ownership. I drove the RAV 4 Prime last year August when we were car shopping for the family, but once I entered and drove the Santa Fe, I knew I was completely done with Toyota. I am trying to trade in my Santa Fe Hybrid Limited, which I have owned and enjoyed for 4months to a Plug-in Hybrid. Hopefully, that would be a good move.

@Matt-hr5uc 2 года назад

I own a 2017 Sonata PHEV which has been in the shop awaiting a battery replacement under warranty for the last SEVEN month. My advice is to sell your Hyundai now while you can.

@jamesdonaldson7396 2 года назад

Honda needs to get with the program and offer a plug-in hybrid variant of the CR-V that competes with the range of the RAV4 Prime. Not a fan of Hyundai's designs (Kia does it better) so it's not even a contest for me.

@ejohnson3131 2 года назад

Great comparison! Exactly the cars I’ve been looking at, but waiting for the new Outlander PHEV or the Eclipse Cross PHEV, but we probably won’t get that in the US.

@reikasdad 2 года назад

Santa Fe with a black chrome/matte black front grille would look cool!

@nickolastiguan 2 года назад

If the current wait time isn’t super long, RAV4 Prime would be my choice. The resell on these right now is nuts, and should hold it’s value ridiculous well in the next few years.

@johnjames7712 2 года назад

Right now one year old Prime SE’s with low miles are asking well over MSRP.

@danhall3450 2 года назад

I really appreciate your reviews & the comparisons. Toyota has a great long term reputation but may have peaked while Hyundai's star is still rising. Love your reviews but your repeated comments about the ROI from Bank O Toyota is starting to sound like a Toyota advertisement . It isn't yet written what the resale value will be on these two models in 5 years -- if the SF proves to be reliable, they may match the R4 value. It will be really interesting to see what the resale. Of course that doesn't help today's buyer I Speaking of resale, I have a CarMax offer on my 7 yr old 2015 Subaru Outback for 69% of its original value (WA state). Bank of Subaru! But Subaru needs get in gear & jump into the Hybrid pool bigtime soon if its gonna continue to compete.

@johnjames7712 2 года назад

You’re gonna get that much for your 7 year old Subaru because of how crazy the used market is right now. And you can make a good educated guess on the resale of the RAV4 Prime if you look at Toyota resale historically, like in the case of the 4Runner and Tacoma.

@PostprandialTorpor 2 года назад

I’ve read articles that 2023/2024 Subaru Forester maybe getting the prime’s drivetrain

@markkennedy5335 2 года назад

Doesn't the Tucson match up better with the Rav ? I'm thinking so.Hardly seems a fair comparison

@shichynwang 2 года назад

It is fair for sure. At the end, both choose Prime. LoL

@markkennedy5335 2 года назад

@@shichynwang Ya. I was just surprised. Zack's Mother in law ordered Tucson PHEV. Does that mean it comes 3rd and Zack might not like her. You could be in trouble, Andrea and Zack.

@bryankellyM 2 года назад

Nice review and appreciate the insight. My family already has a 2020 Rav4 which has probably biased my opinion because the extra power and weight of the Prime likely makes it a very different driving experience. I'm picking up a Santa Fe PHEV Limited on 12/26 and am really looking forward to it but I've owned two Chevy Volts so the bar for plug-in hybrid performance is pretty high by comparison (i.e., the Volt runs equally well on gas as electric.) I suspect the extra room and luxury features or the Santa Fe will be great but curious overall how it performs as an PHEV.

@sftech9215 2 года назад

From another channel comments, there is one key information that keeps Toyota stand out. That's the presence of heat pump. For Hyundai, if you want to keep heat on, the engine kicks in even if you are in EV mode. Similarly, when you press the pedal hard, engine kicks in. I heard that Toyota has enough power to keep it moving with EV mode alone. However, Santa Fe interior and build quality make up for these negatives. It's a vehicle to stay relaxed. It's also worth noting the driver assistance systems in Hyundai is almost comparable to Tesla Autopilot.

@smokynagata88 2 года назад

This is correct. Toyota had 4 iterations of hybrid engines. This was also an issue with Toyota’s first hybrid Prius in the 90s, which they addressed with the clever heat pump system in their second generation Prius. More efficiency, less stress on the engine, etc. The engineering on the inverter tech/overall engine is much more clever and efficient on the Toyota.

@nevco8774 2 года назад

In fact even prior generations of PHEVs from Hyundai like Ioniq PHEV needed to kick on the engine to heat the cabin not having even resistive heater like Toyota Prius Prime. Also the pure EV driving is difficult since engine starts in pure EV mode in each instance of acceleration not having a stable threshold like in Toyota RAV4 Prime. Also Hyudai/Kia has minimal powered internal charger of 3.2 kW. Those are main drawback issues in Hyundai/Kia.

@spaztekwarrior 2 года назад

There is so much to like for each. I think the Rav4 looks better from the front but the Santa Fe looks better from the side IMO. :) The Santa Fe has such a nice interior and I sure do dig the extra space. But The Range and power of the RAV4 is so awesome. It wins it for me. Too bad it is so difficult to get.

@leociccone7505 2 года назад

"If you can get one..." Spent all day speaking to Toyota dealers in the Greater Toronto Area. Consensus is 18 to 36 months wait for a Prime. They haven't even filled 2021 orders yet. I'll take the Hyundai with the much longer warranty. Oh and BTW Drea and Auto...really excellent videos!!

@davidgiles9751 2 года назад

I put a deposit on a Tucson PHEV back at the end of June - still waiting with no end in sight. My backup is a refundable $100 deposit on an AWD VW ID.4 Pro S (but my preference is the Hyundai). However, the likelihood is I wouldn't see an ID.4 AWD until the Spring of 22'. Colorado, USA

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

Personally I would buy the VW ID4, considering the long history of Hyundai’s poor engineering.

@4532465156 2 года назад

if you considering ID4, just wait for ioniq5 or kia ev6

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@4532465156 even those are questionable considering the fired with the Kona, Niro, and Soul EV

@johnholst 2 года назад

Good review! Can't really go wrong with either of these. Santa Fe is bigger, more luxurious, has better tech and no cvt! Prime has more range and more power. The Toyota is at least 20 percent more expensive though and has a super long wait time. Still, both look great, imo.

@goingplacestravel1808 2 года назад

Thank you so much for doing this. These are the to two choices I'm looking at and it is difficult. I agree Toyota is far behind on its interior look and feel compared to others but I'm waiting hoping they do make changes next year due 2023

@reallyrandomrides1296 2 года назад

If you want something reliable and that will hold its resale value, get the Toyota RAV4 Prime. If that's not important, and a nicer interior is, then get the Hyundai Santa Fe. At least you'll be comfortable when you're stranded at the side of the road waiting for the tow truck, lol!

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@reallyrandomrides1296 also it can put on a show to blow up and start a fire on the highway. I would go Toyota all the way over Hyundai.

@reallyrandomrides1296 2 года назад

@@mxngosvision Yes, that's quite possible, haha! I have two friends who had 2014 and 2015 Hyundai Elantras. They didn't blow up, but had engine issues. One of them is a driving a Toyota C-HR now and is very happy with it. I've had several Toyotas and will continue to stay with Toyota for the reliability, build quality and resale value.

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@reallyrandomrides1296 yeah definetly, even though I am young (not even 20), I do have my soft spot for japanese cars, I would definetly drive a Toyota in the future and maybe a Nissan EV or the new Z. So much more character and reliability than the Hyundais and Kias.

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@reallyrandomrides1296 also the new Seltos and Forte models have IVT transmission issues, it’s ridiculous. The worst I have seen is a 2020 Kia Soul IVT fail under 650 miles. That tells you they are absolute crap. Even a Jatco CVT is better and they are not known to be the greatest CVTs.

@mcmastermac 2 года назад

1 year ago, I walked into a toyota dealership said I wanted a rav4 prime and bought it no waiting list no joke

@brybrysofly4093 2 года назад

Excellent review as always guys but 😂😂😂 “the complimentary spanking” 😂😂😂

@kellingtonlink956 2 года назад

If I ...HAD to get a plug-in, despite how impractical they actually are, I think I’d stick with the ‘Bank of Toyota’ ... and get the used Venza. Thanks for the video.

@reallyrandomrides1296 2 года назад

Yes, that's the way to go. With the way new and used vehicles are selling, I'd be surprised if that used Venza was available for more than a few hours. I'm sticking with my old gas powered Corolla and Tundra. Should be able to get another 10 or 15 years out of them.

@kellingtonlink956 2 года назад

Absolutely.

@yummy1234098 Год назад

Why are plug-ins impractical? I have one and love the versatility so I would love to hear your opposition

@seymorefact4333 2 года назад

Toyota ALL DAY! I like PHEV over EV

@davescott1491 2 года назад

You guys are very good. Great comparison. Thank you.

@lemuelalberto5563 2 года назад

Why the top manufacturers only give 3 years now ?

@daviotkelly1267 2 года назад

I will admit the Hyundai and Kia models are becoming more attractive but I’m almost always going to lean toward Toyota

@limpunsing224 2 года назад

RAV4 Prime is a more compelling no-nonsense PHEV Beneficial comparison & info caption

@andystevens7557 2 года назад

We checked out the Santa Fe at the Seattle Auto Show and were very impressed with how far they have come. Almost ordered one that day... But; We have owned 10 Toyota products over the years and have family friends that own a Toyota dealership. Ordered our XSE with Premium package last month and hope to get it next month!

@tseringdhonden5979 2 года назад

Very informative and thorough review. Thank you

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful! - Andrea

@fenix310 2 года назад

There’s at least a dozen RAv4 primes here in SoCal. They go fast though and dealers are marking them up 5k

@mikehaas3797 2 года назад

I would take the Toyota Rav 4 Prime,I have a Toyota Rav 4 has great gas mileage

@reallyrandomrides1296 2 года назад

I just couldn't bring myself to drop $48,000 on a Hyundai. A nicer interior is subjective, in fact, I think it's overwhelming. A few years ago I made the mistake of leaving Toyota and getting a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe. In the first three months, I had so many issues with it, with more to come, so I traded it in on an older Toyota. I'm not in the market for a plug in hybrid, but if I were, I'd definitely go with Toyota for the excellent reliability and resale value. Plus, Toyota was the pioneer in hybrid technology back in the late 1990s. They may not have the fanciest, cutting edge features, but at least what they put out is reliable.

@KA-zh2rq 2 года назад

Suuure you did 😂 you’re probably a kid

@reallyrandomrides1296 2 года назад

@@KA-zh2rq Well, I got my driver's licence before the 1980s were finished. Were you born yet? I've owned many vehicles over the years and worked in the automotive industry, so I back up my opinions with real life experiences in over three decades of driving.

@KA-zh2rq 2 года назад

@@reallyrandomrides1296 sure you were, and I’m Santa. I’ll play along, so you’re old and hold an outdated opinion on what was reliable in the 90s, thus your opinion is pretty irrelevant

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

That doesn’t surprise me, Hyundai has such lousy quality control, that’s why you go out and buy Japanese brands like Toyota. They are much better built and they hold up well.

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@reallyrandomrides1296 ignore the dude, he is so ignorant and thinks Hyundai is better and more reliable than Toyota.

@blitz5894 2 года назад

Can you please do a comparison between the rav 4 prime vs the plug in Tucson! In the market and I’m split between the two

@fluketennis 2 года назад

the waiting list is ridiculous. The salesman told me over 30mths for the Prime, same as the Lexus NX450h.

@vicp8772 2 года назад

U guys r funny. So happy for rides like these on the market. Honda crickets. Happy holidays team.

@daverichards1990 2 года назад

You don't get all your money back when you sell. Stop saying that...

@justliberty4072 2 года назад

Does no one else have lateral knee room problems with these (and many other new) vehicles? Those hard consoles preventing moving my knee toward the center of the vehicle drive me nuts.

@stephenwilbanks289 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, I wish the center stacks would drop off at the seats to a few inches off the floor

@vincemartinez4429 2 года назад

THE SPANKING GOT ME TO SUBSCRIBE. lol! JK! great content guys and thanks for being informative!

@nevco8774 2 года назад

In some places like for instance in Northern Idaho Kia and Hyundai dealerships propose free lifetime warranty for free. Considering RAV4 Prime is not available for regular consumers without connections then Hyundai might have better sales especially for folks not rotating cars each 2 years worried about resale value but planning to keep the car for a while. On this channel Andrea admitted several days ago that interior of Kia Sorento PHEV is better than a similarly sized BMW they tested a while ago. However for a veritable non-luxury PHEV comparison I would wait several months for new generation of Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV which might surprise lots of car shoppers.

@sebastiancohnify 2 года назад

I own the Santa Fe PHEV, and don’t regret it for a moment. But if I’d been willing to wait longer, the Outlander PHEV would 100% be the one I’d be waiting for. If they can deliver on what has been said about it regarding range, battery capacity, etc, while keeping the style and finishes the new line of Outlander has been praised for, AND the existing Outlander PHEV specific bonuses (built in 1500W AC inverter!), it will be absolutely killer.

@nevco8774 2 года назад

@@sebastiancohnify The 1500 W inverter provides power via Chademo in Asia-Pacific region and Australia. Mitsubishi decided not to bring Chademo back in new generation to North America so I am afraid the inverter will be missing also for that market. I wonder if the heat pump will be offered for cold areas?

@williamsmith2912 2 года назад

Six months ago I did a call from a Toyota dealer a RAV 4 Prime was in stock and I could have it. but I had just bought a Hyundai.

@telliesmith9825 2 года назад

Y'all two are off the hook 🤣 got me laughing good job as usual 👍

@ThorMaxx 2 года назад

What is interesting is that on the Hyundai website (canada) on the build screen the $5000 fed rebate is available on the Santa Fe PHEV… could it be that for 2022+ they have improved it to qualify, or perhaps the federal rebate updated to include more models?

@perry1055 2 года назад

Santa Fe is way better than Rav4...

@dmitrybalaban 2 года назад

Had 2 Santa Fes, placed the order for third phev one. Also it's not exactly the same class of vehicles. Santa fe should be compared with venza, or rav4 vs tuscon

@williamsmith2912 2 года назад

I have a Tuscon hybrid. I looked at RAV 4. Why I chose Hyundai? Interior comfort for my long legs and overall performance. RAV4 was uncomfortable. 3 more MPG was not worth the trade off of less comfort in the Toyota. So I would take the Santa Fe

@saadtheman1 2 года назад

watch when u will have problems in few years😂

@artshawaii 2 года назад

Rav4 Prime since August 2020. It is possible to get 60 miles on a charge and average above 4.0mi/kwh.

@lane5686 2 года назад

Great review! I honestly feel hesitant about owning a Hyundai. Hyundai/Genesis as well as Kia had to recall hundreds of thousands of their vehicles again this year because of engine problems. This is nothing new as this brand has had the issue before. Even professional mechanics and car enthusiasts have admitted that Hyundai tried too hard to push for a luxury brand to compete with its German and Japanese competitors. The result was a disastrous auto engineering, hence, why it has a 10-year warrant for its cars. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in November of 2020 that Hyundai and Kia would have to pay $137 million to cover fines and safety improvements so they remedy the engine issue.

@KA-zh2rq 2 года назад

Lmao, they’ve offered the 10 year warranty for years. Your comment is nonsensical. If you make something that is poor quality are you really going to offer a long warranty on it, no, because you’ll go bankrupt. I’ll never understand why them offering a 10 year warranty translates to the cars are poor quality, do you people ever stop and think about whether or not that makes sense 💀? Every car company has had the NHTSA fine them, including Toyota last year for 2 million cars that could catch on fire, people just let it slide

@lane5686 2 года назад

@@KA-zh2rq I honestly could not find the millions of Toyota cars catching fire. Please direct me to the link/article. Nonetheless, it still does not justify the hundreds of thousands of recall that’s happened for two consecutive years now on Hyundai’s end. The federal government even had to step in and address.

@KA-zh2rq 2 года назад

@@lane5686 do you not understand English, 2 million cars that COULD catch fire, the same way the Hyundai’s COULD catch fire, it’s pretty easy to find the article about the 1.9 million rav 4s and the 150k tundras and the 45k camrys that had to be recalled. The nhtsa had to force Toyota to deal with the rav4s because according to Toyota, not enough caught on fire. Not to mention they’ve lied before when accelerators got stuck and they tried to lie and cover it up whilst people were killed. Google is pretty easy to use dude, stop being lazy and search

@KA-zh2rq 2 года назад

@@lane5686 there’s also the million hybrids from a couple years ago that had to be recalled worldwide by Toyota for risk of fire. Have fun googling

@lane5686 2 года назад

@@KA-zh2rq Oh so we’re going with “could” not something more exact like the Hyundai cars that have actually caught fire for consecutive years. I also did some digging and from the article that I found, 2 of the Toyota vehicles caught fire like you’ve stated. Meanwhile, Hyundai has had this problem since 2015. These numerous Hyundai recalls is nothing new as you could see. As for Toyota, sure there have been engine fires here and there but it pales in comparison to the amount that’s happened to Hyundai cars. Also, Toyota consistently wins awards for its engine reliability every year. This is why it has a great resale value after 5 years and why its luxury brand Lexus holds high value in the auto industry.

@1970351C2V 2 года назад

Can't talk about numbers without going back to dealer markups. I purchased a PHEV in October and markups on the RAV4 Prime in the US are RIDICULOUS. All efficiency, resale, even reliability arguments are out the window when dealers are asking up to $40k over MSRP. No amount of gas savings or residual value will make up for that. I ended up getting an Escape PHEV which I've been pretty happy with. Bland looks aside, I am getting over 1000mi to an 11gal tank thanks to free charging at work. You may have mentioned it and I wasn't paying attention, but the eCVT system used by Ford and Toyota (maybe the Pacifica minivan too?) is a discriminator. It's excellent and unlike regular CVTs.

@gs98999 2 года назад

We are lucky in Canada, markups over msrp aren’t allowed. Maybe that’s why more products go to USA where a dealer can make 40k profit on one of these. 😂

@1970351C2V 2 года назад

@@gs98999 Interesting. Price controls rarely achieve their goal (sending stock to the US where it can be sold for more being a great example). What about the secondary market? Are there laws to prevent people from flipping a vehicle that's in demand?

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Stock is not being sold in the US, Canadian cars have different trims etc, not that simple. Yes, selling over MSRP is against the law.

@MetaView7 2 года назад

The RAV4 Prime is an Unicon

@jonrusselltx 2 года назад

Just went to a dealer on Friday. 10K markup on the Prime and they would not even let us test drive it.

@GHinWI 2 года назад

The Toyota does all the phev things better…ev range and fuel economy, combined with the long excellent track record of e-CVT transmissions, makes that the winner.

@Matt-hr5uc 2 года назад

In my experience Hyundai PHEV reliability is awful. I own a 2017 Hyundai Sonata PHEV, which experienced hybrid system failure on i95 (nearly causing an accident) on Aug 31, 2021. Two months later, during which time the Hyundai dealer made two unsuccessful repair attempts, I picked up my car only to have Hybrid system failure occur for the third time before I even made it to the first traffic light. The service center then told me the car (under warranty) needs a new battery pack, which I have been waiting for over the past FIVE months. The car has been out of service for SEVEN months and Hyundai has refused all buyback attempts. I bought a new Rav4 Prime in Feb…..If I ever get my Hyundai back it will be sold.

@abulahmed2125 2 года назад

How come volkswagen teguan 2022 highline doesnot have the badge Highline on the car . Like American they say SEL, S.

@sstrading-korea 2 года назад

Both vehicles are great! But Hyundai Motor Company in Korea looks cooler.

@lucleblanc6060 2 года назад

It is an absolute shame that the Rav4 is unattainable, I went looking for a Prime and the wait is into 2025, I could consider waiting a year, but 2025 is ridiculous. I asked to be put on a waiting list and it is 47 people long. Guess it's the new norm.

@shichynwang 2 года назад

Like RAV4 Prime but wait time 2yrs. Forget it. Pull out my deposit and go for Tucson PHEV. Wait time 8 months. At least there is an end in sight. Prime better in acceleration and fuel economy. Tucson PHEV better in everything else.

@martinberan2136 2 года назад

Rav4 cost $50k in xse with 6,6kW charger and packet. It can go even higjer while SantaFe has all that except chantger for $45k

@brianknecht3216 2 года назад

I’m going to wait to see the new Mazda CX50, to be built in a shared factory with Toyota and offered with Toyota’s hybrid systems. Mazda has better styling and driving experience.

@chung-taitsai1883 2 года назад

how about 120-volt power outlet, wattage rating.

@treborheminway3814 2 года назад

Seems like a big miss for the Santa Fe to come up just short on battery size and lose $2500 of credit in the process. By spending a few hundred, they would have saved a few thousand AND have a better product.

@rossmitchell6249 2 года назад

“Bank of Toyota”… The RAV4 will retain 62% of its value after 5 years. Top trim purchase price is $57k CDN. After 5 years, vehicle is worth $35.34k. Depreciation cost is $57k - $34.34k = $21.66k. The Santa Fe will retain 50% of its value after 5 years. Top trim purchase price is $49k. After 5 years, vehicle is worth $24.5k. Depreciation cost is $49k - $24.5k = $24.5k Another way to look at it… If I start with $57k and purchase the RAV4, after 5 years I will have a vehicle worth $35.4K If I start with $57k and purchase the Santa Fe, after 5 years I will have a vehicle worth $24.5k, plus $8k (and interest) from the lower purchase price. Total assets = $24.5k + $8k = $32.5k (plus interest on $8k compounded over 5 years)

@dmitrybalaban 2 года назад

And you will get more of everything in your car for less.

@Joe-rabbit 2 года назад

I will sell my rav4 prime XSE super sonic Red to buy the Lexus RZ. I am now waiting to sell my 2016 Highlander Hybrid Platinum and buy the 2023 Sequoia. After 7 years my Highlander still holds 60% of its value. As you know, a used Prime costs more than a new one...🤣

@goodchannel885 2 года назад

Hi Guys I booked my Rav 4 prime with dealer in Burlington ON two years back they goofed up my booking do not wish to co operate and correct it. Talked to Toyota Canada without any help . Is there anybody who can help me here?..appreciate if anybody can guide me.👍👍👍👍😩😩😩😩😩

@philseung8 2 года назад

Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV

@A3A4Tom 2 года назад

No contest. While Toyota's reliability and resale value are unbeatable, Santa Fe's executions are much better than those of the RAV4. If it were my money, I would definitely go with Hyundai.

@MrMarkwill62 2 года назад

That slow 3.3 kw charger makes it not worth paying the extra money to get the prime. 4 1/2 hours to charge for 42 miles is way to long especially since most Americans won't get the rebate unless they owe taxes 👎🏾

@cpall056 2 года назад

Big issue for me is having a place to charge overnight in winter (heated garage is set up as a gym) and the significant loss of efficiency for the EV in winter.

@eTreyu27 2 года назад

Rav4 Prime or Tuscon PHEV is the comparison I'm doing. Tuscon kinda winning right now

@UnitedCanuck 2 года назад

I prefer my Santafe. The cvt in Toyota is a major deal breaker.

@cristiansoricut9701 2 года назад

Is a E CVT . No belt, only gears and electric engines. Is like an automatic gearbox but with electrical engines So is not like classic CVT. The name came for continuum variabile transmition and this planetary gearbox is capable of this but without the mechanicall problems generated by belts.

@UnitedCanuck 2 года назад

@@cristiansoricut9701 do some readings on Rav 4 prime. It's not a pure electric car. It has a regular ICE engine hence a transmission.

@edenfinch5299 2 года назад

So those brands gove bare minimum

@naughtysauce4323 2 года назад

Too rare and too expensive. Just get a hybrid.

@zedlopez8267 2 года назад

I decided to be on naughty list just for the complementary spanking reason,and yeah its a hybrid

@leebr2010 2 года назад

Santa Fe's front end is just too ugly, sorry. It's gonna look worse as time goes on. RAV4 looks more conventional, but it won't look dated so quickly. Plug-in hybrid wise, it's no contest between the two. RAV4 wins hands down. Plus it's way faster, something that's not mentioned here.

@adilsagadiyev5090 2 года назад

The Hyundai Santa Fe is better in every other way, looks are subjective. The Santa Fe has a much better interior, interior quality and it’s also bigger

@ronripley9197 2 года назад

Yeah I agree. The front end IMO looks overstyled! Get rid of that chrome that runs from side to side under the grille and it might look better. It seems like Hyundai restyles their vehicles about every 17 days so maybe the front end will look better next month!

@johnpereira6934 2 года назад

If you're going to keep your vehicle for longer than 5 years then who cares about the Bank of Toyota? If you're getting rid of your vehicle in 4 years or less than leasing may be the preferred way to go since you shouldn't be financing the residual value. From most of the comparisons this channel does the residual after 5 years is around the 50% mark, give or take a few percentage points. Anything longer and the residual value becomes less relevant.

@ahmadahmad2199 2 года назад

santa fe can't compare it with rav4 you can compare it with highlander

@petergazarek4238 2 года назад

TOYOTA RAV4 PRIME 😎👍🏻 THE BEST

@Dark_Vader888 2 года назад

Santa Fe is crap, no electric heat pump so you cant use just electric power when the heater is on. This is an issue if you want to tool around town gas free when you need the heater. Toyota is way ahead. I wish I knew this before I bought my 2020 Ionic PHEV. Toyota Rav 4 Prime or Prius Prime can use EV only whether you use the heater or not.

@bodmonjay 2 года назад

i’d take the santa fe i just hate the look of the centre stack

@ronniejaye1 2 года назад

I don't care what BS Toyota tries to sell , it's still a freakin CVT. I've been driving only Toyota for over 30 yrs and never regretted it for a moment. But the CVT is a deal-breaker , totally . Maybe when/if Toyota comes to their senses , I'll consider their vehicles once again.

@nickolastiguan 2 года назад

It has an eCVT

@robertduklus6555 2 года назад

@@nickolastiguan wow e cvt? still cvt isnt it. How is e cvt not a cvt according to your obvious expertise.

@smokynagata88 2 года назад

@@robertduklus6555 The eCVT found on the Toyota Prius and other hybrids differs from CVTs found in other vehicles, such as the 2013 Nissan Altima or 2012 Scion iQ, because it does not use a belt or chain connected to a pair of variable pulleys. Instead, an eCVT uses electric motor/ generators to control the speeds of planetary gearset components. This allows the eCVT to continuously change the gear ratio, keeping the engine’s rpm in the sweet spot. Just like when driving other CVT-equipped vehicles, drivers of vehicles with eCVTs don’t feel the step change common to traditional automatic transmissions, yet the mechanisms (planetary gears) to achieve acceleration are largely the same.

@nickolastiguan 2 года назад

@@robertduklus6555 because eCVT and CVT are mechanically different, and they are not the same? And no, I am not an expert in this object.

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

Dude they are not the same. eCVT is different from a regular CVT.

@competitiveautomotive5457 2 года назад

Um yeah the Santa Fe PHEV is a better car overall. It’s more spacious, it’s way more luxurious inside, better design, better luxury, better tech, better build quality, better materials quality and fit and finish, better comfort, better thrills, better suspension polish, and just better polish all the way around. And it’s cheaper and more value. The Santa fe also absolutely destroys the nx450h+

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

better build quality on a Hyundai?? U are in lalala land clearly

@competitiveautomotive5457 2 года назад

@@mxngosvision Hyundai has come a long way lately. This isn’t the 90s anymore you know And it’s okay to admit that Toyota quality isn’t what it used to be back then and that Hyundai is coming in hard surpassing Toyota. And they have a much longer warranty and really good reliability All Toyota does is sell themselves on their past reputation. You know the RAV4 prime is already wicked expensive enough between 40K-50K, yet you get the same cheap feeling interior as a 25-30K RAV4

@brycebensing 2 года назад

@@mxngosvision the new ones yes, 2017 onwards. The Hyundai Kia Group have positioned themselves really well. The poached german engineers/designers are really starting to show.

@competitiveautomotive5457 2 года назад

@@brycebensing yeah. Mark my words. They may potentially in the future end Lexus entirely since they’ve become the Korean CIA and FBI: intercept terminate, and ruin future Lexus products we haven’t even heard of or seen yet

@mxngosvision 2 года назад

@@competitiveautomotive5457 "good reliability" on a Hyundai does not go together. Toyota isn't what it used to be but they are still more reliable than Hyunda and Kia, they don't have insane amount of recalls and fires compared to Hyundai, where they jus can't get it right in the first place because they build them so cheaply with all that tech and luxury. I am sticking with the Japanese brands.

@Soh90 2 года назад

That Sante Fé is one ugly ass car. I do like the interior much more than the RAV4 though. Overall, the RAV4 is the clear winner to me. Faster, more efficient, and very useful space. I rented one for a week and though the interior isn’t Mercedes Benz nice, it’s very well put together and has a quality robust feel about it. Plus the RAV4’s ability to retain its value is a huge plus. I would argue that the RAV4 could possible retain closer to 65% of its value.

@ottertubetv9356 2 года назад

Button layout in the Santa Fe makes me wanna puke. Sorry but that’s just too many buttons for my liking.

@gursim4 2 года назад

Horrible ride on the Toyota.

@treborheminway3814 2 года назад

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

These are built for worldwide markets not just one country with specific rebate needs.

@treborheminway3814 2 года назад

@@Motormouth... Canada and the us are two big markets to miss though. It's not like a slightly bigger battery has a big downside even if you don't get a rebate. I've always found the smaller the battery, the shorter the life too.