Sad that eventually V8s will die, but Japan is here to save the future of sports cars with fantastic engineering. Edit: What will happen with future cars is what currently happens with smartphones. Other than software, smartphones nowadays are all the same.
@@aeronYTcoCars are reaching a peak of engineering to the point where any more is just BARELY noticeable by the average user. Midrange phones of today were flagship phone specs just 3-4 years ago
Nissan developed a super high fuel economy and low emissions 3-cylinder with variable compression ratio, the first in the industry. Its pretty fancy, gets 225ftlbs, 37mpg, and 87 octane on a big heavy SUV.
@@BoopSnoot yeah that engine is absolutely amazing, but having seen one torn apart (channel: I Do Cars) I would absolutely not own one. Very, very cool that they made that happen though.
@@andersonrodriguez8258 Not true, there is a NHTSA investigation based on 6 complaints out of 480K+ units sold over several years, that's not even 1% and is merely an investigation at this point. Even Toyota is currently under investigation by the NHTSA, doesn't mean anything and if there is a problem they will be required to issue a recall, but until then its meaningless.
What has Toyota actually done exactly??? Envisioned a way to maintain profits as long as they can before the cheaper, less profitable and more efficient EVs become the dominant force?
@@lionintu 100 percent, I’m just working and didn’t have time to read all of it since my job consist of driving, so it’s much easier for me to listen to the RU-vid video. Plus, I love the 2 cents Kirk adds into his videos, making it much more informative rather than me reading a Japanese translation.
100%. Mitsubishi is kinda in the right direction since they’ve switched suppliers for their automatic transmissions in their longitudinal applications. Since 2016 they’ve been using Aisin (Toyota) longitudinal transmissions.
Nissan could and SHOULD stay independent. They’re a victim of their own poor choices. At least the ARC Strategy Nissan showed has created some hype, but unless they bring e-Power to the US fast enough, they would lose out. Mitsubishi is finally getting their act together for the global market after Nissan gave the green light for partnerships and product development for Mitsubishi. Nissan ruined themselves and Mitsubishi. Toyota wouldn’t want to touch them.😂
@@mrgurulittle7000 👍e-power could solve all the Jatco CVT problems, boost MPG and allow a serial hybrid / range extended EV setup (since all propulsion is routed through the electric motor).
A few years back, the Japanese government was in talks with Toyota and Honda with a plan to rescue Nissan. I haven’t heard or seen another report about this possible buyout of Renault
I'm glad that Mazda is partially owned by Toyota. I love Mazda, almost as much as Toyota products. Subaru, needs to straighten up when Toyota walks into the room, or they will lose Toyota.
@@Hallowsaw Subarus are great. What I like about them is they keep continually improving on what they have accomplished. I agree they need to get the efficiency up. 2012 Outback owner. 160 M miles trouble free.
Subaru is doing very well - their Crosstrek is Class-Leading and Sales-leading (in its segment!! It outsells the Toyota Corolla Cross as well as the Mazda CX30 and everyone else’s)
@@Hallowsaw The problem with Subaru, the quality is not up to par. Mazda is up to par, but their engines only have direct injection, which is not good for longevity, just like Subaru.
The globalists want to end car ownersip, and they are using Climate Change as cover. I personally want BOTH EV and ICE choices in the marketplace, but the world is moving in another direction.
@AuralioCabal-nl8gi well I have a scion tc which is toyota engine that I'm close to 200k miles and never gives me any issues still takes a beating and never seems to give up on me. Lol
I read an article about one month ago,where Toyota and Chevron are working on a new formula for gasoline,which reduces the amount of pollutants in the gasoline… I think they are working on this project at the Tacoma Washington Port of Entry…They’re using this fuel in the port’s vehicles…
I have been saying for years these car companies just need to become essentially a company together. Subaru, mazda, Toyota and Lexus. Subaru should be their offroad/adventurer brand, put the smaller trucks on the subaru brand. Sporty/premium should be Mazda. Luxury/extreme reliability lexus and mainstream Toyota.
Nope, I disagree. Merging these companies will only dilute the brands and ruin everything. What can’t the companies do now that merging would allow them to do? Subaru only needs some Toyota technology so they sell 20% of themselves to Toyota as an excuse to get the stuff they need. Mazda sells 4% of themselves to Toyota to create an excuse to get the technology they need. In the big picture, Toyota has no need for the rest of Subaru’s and Mazda’s shares, let alone, the entire companies.
@@trumpisastump9382EVs were the dominant technology before ice took over in the 1930s. Very ironic and incorrect that you say that… You must be narrow minded.
Why would you want to save it. Combustion pollutes the air by definition and most of the products of combustion are wasted in heat. Toyota engines are the most efficient but at best only 40% of the fuel burned turns the wheels. In an EV 95% of the battery energy used gets to the wheels.
RX-8 and rotary engines don't leak oil, they inject oil for lubrication as necessary. RX-8 2004-08 didn't inject well enough, 2009-11 had improved 3 port injection
Maybe mostly a problem when moddifying them for more power, but they are known for cracking around the centering pins which also transported the oil between the halves of the engine. However, one great moddification is to make the main case bolts also work as dowels so that the motor can't shift around and crack at those points.
Toyota sells all over the world. They need to continue producing ICE engines for markets that can't support electrification for the next couple of decades or more. That should allow them to send a percentage of those engines to the US, especially the most efficient and low-emitting versions. I don't think this signals a rebirth of the gas engine.
You’re right, but neither the grid in Europe or the US can handle a significant increase in EVs so all car manufacturers will have to keep contributing ICE vehicles for some time
Kirk, why don’t you talk how bad was the V6 turbo engines designed by Toyota. You need to cover the good, the bad, and the ugly. What’s going on with Toyota.
I've got my Flaimin' Hot Cheetos and my Coke Zero !!! Let's go !!! Kirk, this is such a great video. Most of us are not engineers. 99% of us don't know how ICEs are built. We don't know how ICE technology is advancing, but people, it is !!! For example, check out Robert Mitchell's RU-vid channel and his dismantling of Toyota GR Yaris 3 cylinder engine. Search for, "Destruction?! Inside the Blown Toyota GR Yaris Engine." Robert races this engine on the Nurburgring and in this video he talks about how he broke it, which is not the fault of Toyota. The point is that plebeians, like me, get to see this engine inside and out. It's like a fine Swiss watch, simply stunning, producing nearly 300 hp and it's the size of a brown paper grocery bag.
I’m all for ICE evolution in the short run, the issue is a lot of the people complaining about EV’s are the same ones complaining about hybrids and more efficient turbo fours.
@@ryanfraley7113 Complaining about EVs, hybrids, and four cylinder engines? That's a lot of complaining. What do they want? ...meanwhile, the oligarchy flies around on private jets and summers on superyachts.
they say cruise ships put out more emission than cars lol. driving efficiently(low emissions, high miles per gallon , car longveity and low maintenance sort of mixed into it, ) is like endurance racing , avoiding need for pitstops etc, needing to get places on time but doing so efficiently (or whatever speed you want , if you dont care as much about efficiency). this type of driving fun is most safe because its nto as fast as possible but does make you rather aware of driving environment instead of being focused mostly on music/radio/daydreaming/texting, etc driving efficiently is speeding up especially on more downhill-ish roads at optimal fuel level and engine RPM(RotationPerSecond), steering and braking minimally but smoothly. optimal efficiency for toyota 2.4 inline 4 is 2/3 pedal down in 2k-3k rpm, cvt hybrid maintain constant rpm. not sure whats best to do this in: sport mode, fuel level is more, in eco mode its less. use EV mode if optimal combustion level would speed car too much (often, if car isnt letting you do that without the EV mode, it wont let you us EV mode.) use it a bit from a stop for smooth acceleration then when car is rolling use combustion then maybe use it a bit more. smooth acceleration is part of putting less weight on tires at a moment because: according to emissions analytics' .com , consider tire wear dust emissions and how much it cost to replace tires (most people are becoming increasingly even poorer than they already are and you can invest money into bigger money)like those "xenoestrogen endocrine disputing forever chemicals micro plastics" etc. apply less weight on tires and you'll allow more of that weight handling ability to be used for having more grip for endurance-race-pitstop-avoiding momentum preservation driving fun in the name of efficiency. being able to feel how close car is to its grip limit is good for this goal, similar to the lotus-car-enjoyers ideal. for hybruds, battery should only be used in low speed situation because thats where it helps most. putting down power is more efficient at high speed so combustion is good. hybrids lower emissions with electric where it helps most for the least use of these non fully recyclable usually never recycled battery and electric motor stuff (the normally used stuff). yes, mile sper gallon per trip maybe less, by this trick, but longveity of battery is longer ,lower more emissions in part of the mass scale operation of producing hybrids. so accelerate slow in electric from a stop, then make power at most effceint rpm and fuel level for your engine. you can put it in neutral to prevent regenerative braking from eating up your momentum of rolling with no power after acceleration, then put it in drive for regen brake when wanting to brake down at slow pace at around half the regen braking level , so you can brake more fully just in case you underestimated how much you need to brake max regenerative braking. brake beyond the regenerative braking level once in awhile to shave off the rust layer on brake pad before while brake pad rusts off sooner. youtube think flight, julian edgar,etc have videos on improving aerodynamic efficiency of his car.can add anti sway bar , better suspension etc "handling mods" for more momentum around turns, but some of it can make the ride bumpier, louder, etc. cars are not what what they should be, dont waste money on mediocre , make them stop fooling around if they are gonna get your money. hybrid cars are arguably better than electric car because they lower use of combustion and battery mass and all materials overall without adding so much weight. weight worsens road wear damage (repairs cost emissions , money etc) , worsens crash safety for all (except few rich people who can afford super safe cars in the small chance that they are involved in crash and value their lives and have lives we can value). this is why aptera motors originally made diesel hybrid, but now sells electric cars to max profits and reputation as a "environmentally friendly brand." because batteries are not fully recyclable and combustion fuel is based on anaerobic bacteria that regenerates , which is why oil rigs go back to getting oil after abandoning the almost empty oil well years later. this is why arguably only combustion is proper, in rear mid engine weight distribution , rear wheel drive , with limited slip differential for minimal tire wear even in normal driver driving , for preserving momentum around turns more without too much slowing down by lateral (left /rights) g forces tires. 2-3 trips in compact 4 seater for the once in a year taking a minivan full of kids to doctors , is better than minivan all the time just for that rare scenario. yearly family road trip the all those kids can be done with rented van. in fact for most us a 2 seater is enough because theyll be losers with no friends they trust or care about, no kids carefully selected for good genes, no purpose besides not dieng, and money to overpay for low quality social status and desensitizing overdosing on minor temporary novelty, while being a waste of resources and maybe making life worse overall for others. can you prove human caused co2 causes climate change or that its not just the usual climate change malkovich cycles similar to that of known ice ages? check incentives behind claims and who owns the industries of climate change alarmism and oil industry(same guys). environmentalists anti nuclear energy (the only reliable clean energy) , and crash safety laws, CAFE law, makes ironically named "suv" cars and electric cars more easily profitable than the cars thatd actually help. examples: they require less emissions per length width of car but allow larger height. crash safety laws increase arms race for safer cars making people in fewer and fewer cars safer at the cost of most others crash safety and everything else.
Good news! Time to show the world that choice rules over dogma. Of course, we know that Toyota invests also in EVs, but that’s the thing we like about Toyota because they promote all technologies instead of one. We as the consumers get to choose what we want.
Sadly the unelected elites who have the elected politicians on their payroll don't care about saving "fossil fuels", in fact they'd be fine if we use it all up as quickly as possible. This is about power and control, and the sooner us peasants realize this and fight back the better off we'll be. The current goal is to incentive EV's to such a degree that it will no longer be financially viable for car companies to continue producing ICE, and after production goes away for a while...so do the component suppliers. What this means is even if a car company wanted to go back to producing ICE vehicles it would be too expensive and in some cases not even possible. Once ICE is pretty much eradicated worldwide we'll start to see the anti-EV (which in reality is "anti-personal transport) activists unleashed on the world to tell us how bad EV's are for the environment and how personal transport is also socially irresponsible. This is where government steps in and saves the day! How will they do that? Simple..just tax the peons to death to pay for massive public transport projects. The elites will be pleased since they will be the ones reaping the rewards while simultaneously gaining control of movement over the teeming, unwashed masses. If anyone reading this thinks it sounds like paranoid fantasy..I urge you to do some independent research of your own and read between the lines. They aren't quite as upfront with their plans as they were a couple years back, but the info is still out there.
Not only do electric cars feel the same, they are very expensive. I drive a 23 year old Toyota. If it were electric, I’d have to source a replacement battery which would likely be super expensive due to being super high capacity and proprietary. Hybrids are okay because when those batteries go out after 10-20 years they’re significantly cheaper to replace. Gas engines just need a new aluminum block and you’re good.
Most large auto manufacturers are leaps and bounds better financially than every Chinese manufacturer. If it wasn’t for Chinese subsidies none would get off the ground.
Exactly the same stuff was being said about Japanese auto companies 20 years ago. Now everybody loves them and up until last year, lots of people were still buying them. Now it's the turn of the Chinese. Loathe it or love it, it's just the reality. Subsidised or not, they make better cars, sure enough some of the companies are making crap, but BYD for example is now outselling Tesla and Tesla quality is a joke. Have you looked closely at a cybertruck yet?
@@simonpaine2347 the problem is that with the heavy subsidies people aren’t realizing Chinas intent is to drive out manufacturers from those countries and deliver a financial blow to those countries. Their purpose isn’t one of competition, it’s one of destruction. You’d have to be pretty ignorant to want that to happen to your domestic industries.
@@miraphycs7377 yep, North America is still good. So good that it's supporting / bailing out the rest of the world......for now! Check on current inventory levels and sales in NA are now slowing as well. By the end of the year there will be a truer, more accurate picture of the overall market performance.
@@N20Joe lol. Dude nobody cares that’s yesterday news. Can you walk into a Toyota dealership and buy two sports cars and an all-wheel-drive turbo charged hatchback overland and turbocharged trucks ? Yes Mazda can’t even relate .
Every mazda crossover handles way better than a Toyota and typically Lexus too. Far better feedback than most Toyotas. A Miata is still more fun to me than all the GR models... However the GR yaris would probably be my jam.
@@KirkKreifels unfortunately people aren’t buying crossovers for handling so that’s not a high talking point. They are brought for comfort and feature and size before “ handling “ yeah it’s a cool conversation point for us car enthusiasts but it’s not a buying point. Let’s be real. Power matters more than handling for daily use Miata being fun to you that’s okay I can’t debate your option but I would take a GR86 over a Miata personally just on looks alone. I would take any GR product over any Mazda product.
There are mechanical watches which don’t rely on batteries. They are available at many price points but only purchased by true watch enthusiasts. Same thing will happen to cars. ICE engines will become the option that’s less convenient but way more fun. People who love cars will buy ICE and people who just want to get to work safely, quickly and comfortably will buy EV.
I am quite interested with the NA 1.5L 4-cyl engine because the same configuration is pretty much the most popular type of engine here in my country (nearly all car manufacturers has the same engine configuration following the regulations) and Toyota's current 1.5L engine powering the Avanza has been around for around 20 years now with proven reliability & being relatively efficient so having a modern version of it combined with a proper hybrid is the way to go.
The 1 and 2gr are legendary. Great power , very minor issues and made to run past the lifespan of the rest of the car. Im upset there getting rid of it. But still many great cars with it and hope there newer engines can match how good that series of engines are
The two-rotor rotary engine must be a product of the newly resurrected rotary team launched back in Feb. Heard it uses a dry sump oil system as well as longitudinally mounted for lower center of gravity which is typically only used for sportier applications. Mazda must be seriously thinking of producing the Iconic SP
Its crazy how honda is not on board with this yet atleast i always thought they would be the second supporter of combustion engines since they made vtec iconic
I am a bit disappointed in Mazda's statement. I love the technology of the SkyActive-X engines. Now it seems like they have abandoned that in favor of the rotary engine. SkyActive-X was in the past touted as being suitable for a range of fuels, with Mazda even planning to make an engine that could run both on diesel and gasoline. I also like rotary engines, but they are just not efficient. Rotary engines will be a hard sell and when the competition is making their engines more compact, the rotary engines is losing part of its advantage.
Frankly, I don't think they will abandon Skyactiv. It makes no sense. Skyactiv I4 is in their best selling vehicles, which could be turned into hybrids. This is the way.
Otherwise, I might buy Ford Escape PHEV as my next car. It has, essentially, a Mazda engine with a Toyota transaxle. That car should be super reliable.
That 4cyl could possibly be the last and final spirit of the 4AG/3S-GE/2ZZ..please bring it back to the 86/MR2/Celica before we go to the electrified world
Wish more car companies would just produce RWD 2.0 liter 350-400hp engines that get 30+ mpg on a light vehicle. Add another 100hp electric and a 10kw battery on the transmission that transfers torque better and you have a perfect ride.
Rotary engines thrive when they are droning / maintaining a steady RPM pace like a generator in a Dam (being driven by water pressure) -- accelerating and decelerating constantly wears them out
I'm not excited because manual transmissions are being forced into obsolescence. It's lightweight, simple, reliable, easily repaired, efficient (direct drive), and keeps the driver aware and engaged.
There is no indication that the alternative fuels which could be utilized for these ICE engines are viable on a large enough scale or that they make any economic sense.
Toyota and Honda really need to come together to pioneer the expansion of hydrogen powered vehicles, and now there’s also Volvo on the commercial side, who could also be a huge backer of hydrogen expansion. I also believe Toyota and Porsche should be working together to find greener options for ICE vehicles. Common interests that will only benefit the companies involved.
@@limitedreach4446 They will stop making engines for vehicles within the next 10-15 years as they are going all EV. Honda gets it. In a changing world you either adapt or get left behind. That is why Toyota, despite the implications of this video, is investing heavily on solid state batteries that can power an EV for 750 miles between charges. If successful, that will change the calculations very significantly and will usher in the inevitable march of EVs.
@@KirkKreifels yeah from the latest business strategy they dont focused on engine again sadly but again we dont know when CEO is changed also change direction. i think it is misleading for Honda in mibe direction
I'm all about cleaner mobility, but I read that that E-Fuel developed by Porsche is about $40 per gallon right now. I've never in my life seen a hydrogen pump and hydrogen is used to make mega bombs for a reason....it's extremely explosive. I do know it's being used for larger commercial trucks. My next vehicle will most likely be the Kia EV3 or Toyota Compact Cruiser EV. I'll take an EV any day over these new turbo 4 bangers and defective turbo V6's.
Rotary engines, always been a problem, we need a proper comparison with conventional fossil fuel engines. The rotor tips, are trying to make a seal at quite a velocity. I don’t think they beat the 20% mark for efficiency (measured as rotating shaft energy out/energy put in to get it). I have a hybrid, because ICE make great boilers. I want to be able to heat my car cabin to the max, on wet or wet & cold days. I realised I could never afford sufficient battery capacity to do this, so opted for a car with a ‘boiler’. Because essentially an ICE produces heat for free, it isn’t as awfully inefficient in practice, because I can use a heater a lot of the time. So, maybe for me, my use-case, a gasoline car might actually reach 30% or more efficiency, as I have a use for the heat. If a micro-steam turbine could be attached, generating electricity for an attached electric motor/generator, any ICE would suddenly be bumped to 50% or more efficiency. But to my knowledge, no such research has ever occurred, despite steam turbines being bog-standard technology (think nuclear energy generation, big ones!). I dunno, I feel companies are thrashing around seeking a homogenous direction? Take care all.
@@KirkKreifelsWarmth causes extra evaporation, which leads to drought and extra water vapor and energy in the atmosphere which can increase the power of storms. Warmth melts ice sheets, which rises sea level. Somehow, in the US, this is a political statement, and elsewhere it's just science. We'll probably be alright for the next few years, but it's our children I worry about.
Out of three, Subaru is only one that are production ready ,they officially announced plan to launch new boxer hybrid around end of this year to early next year , Toyota are in mid to late prototype stages ,silver top one will definitely come to replace dynamic force family with in 2-3 years where I doubt what Toyota next model will receive that hot 2 liter turbo 4 banger red top , and for Mazda rotary seem to still in very early prototype concept ,I not even sure when it will go to production stage.
8:35 Given that the MX30 comes with the "8C", the new Mazda 2 rotor is likely going to be the Rensis successor shown back in the early 2010s known during development as the 16X, with the production version being the 1.6L "16C"
I heard the Skyactiv-X was supposed to save ICE. What happened to it? Hyper efficiency with ICE is already possible if you choose to delve into diesel hybrids.
Whatever the technology, drivers will always prefer 2-3 minutes filling at the gas stations rather than hours of charging plus logistical puzzles. Period.
Wow, Amazing that Toyota managed to add 7.3 HP to their new engine whilst also achieving 56 mpg. Yawn. Such a shame that almost no one under the age of 40 will be buying ICE cars in 2030 and Toyota will lose $1,200 on every vehicle they sell (average). Every cent spent on ICE R&D is a waste in a world dominated by BEVs, hence why the Chinese abandoned ICE car R&D last year !!!!
the Subaru Crosstrek actually had a 2.0L hybrid engine under the hood. Why the camo the outside for it who knows unless it has some sort of styling changes.
No yellow Priuses. The unfortunate effect of the Prius being so efficient and reliable is it became the choice for Taxis. Prius owners protest. I god rid of my 2015 partly cuz of this
I've been saying that eventually Toyota is going to take Mazda's i6 and use it in the supra. Hopefully we are not goin to end with: Mazda=Buick Subaru=jeep
I remember some years back maybe about five years ago three years ago Honda and Toyota were talking about the Turbo’s. I thought it was a great idea to have an electric turbo charger, do you have any idea why that just dropped off the face of the planet?
So basically they will continue in building hybrids wow what news .... I was wondering if there is really something innovative but sadly no. Turbocharging an engine is not a great idea efficiency wise. It´s one more costly assembly to fail and more strain on the engine. I was hoping they were working on a gas turbine or Stirling engine range extender or something like that. Same with the rotary engine. Longevity wise it´s not a good idea. The seal problem was never solved and some other issues as well. It´s really popular with drones for the military for I wouldn´t want on in my car. I also hoped Toyota would come up with better batteries for more range or something. Kind of dissapointing.
Hybrids and turbos are showing they're not scaling with vehicular weight. Shown with Toyota's own examples like the Tacoma and Tundra. The efficiency drops off remarkably as the vehicle gets heavier to the point these two techs show little advantage over a natural aspirated large displacement internal combustion engine. Subaru, Toyota and Mazda are just wasting billions when the obvious solution has already been here: make vehicles lighter, more space efficient and more aerodynamic. You want more efficient ICE, you first make smaller and lighter vehicles which will allow you to simply make smaller displacement more efficient ICE engines with proportional benefits in emissions. Alternative fuels like hydrogen do not solve the problem of NOX emissions. In fact to produce sufficient power you need high compression and high compression leads to NOX. NOX is produced from the two gases most common in the atmosphere, Nitrogen and Oxygen, and fuels don't play a part in this. NOX is what causes health problems to people. The best way to reduce NOX is non combustion, but if you want combustion, the second best way while preserving efficiency is to reduce engine displacement because you compress a smaller air volume. A lighter vehicle will reduce the need to increase revolutions on the smaller engine so you pump less air. Otherwise alternative fuels will only repeat what we have with diesel already. If you must know diesel actually produces less CO2 emissions while having superior efficiency over gasoline, but its very high compression generates more NOX than gasoline engines. Hybrids and turbos also improve dramatically as the vehicle goes lighter while losing efficiency as the vehicle gets heavier, the other end of what I said earlier.
Water injection eliminates NOx. It has had limited use in projection engines - one more reservoir the operator needs to be reminded to fill - and methanol must be added to prevent freezing. Water-methanol injection is commonly used to use pump gasoline instead of AV gasoline in turbocharged motors. I'd consider a water kit to increase the compression ratio primarily for greater torque and fuel economy, but NOx reduction is a benefit
Water injection eliminates NOx. It has had limited use in projection engines - one more reservoir the operator needs to be reminded to fill - and methanol must be added to prevent freezing. Water-methanol injection is commonly used to use pump gasoline instead of AV gasoline in turbocharged motors. I'd consider a water kit to increase the compression ratio primarily for greater torque and fuel economy, but NOx reduction is a benefit
