Toyota's VVTL-I system explained on a 2ZZ-GE engine. This is a part of the Toyota service Training video. For the full video: • Toyota Celica T23 Serv...
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Just over 200,000 miles on my 2ZZGE and still going strong. Use Denso IK20 (5304) plugs in mine. Seems to help also. Regular oil changes. Lift bolt inspection every 35 000 miles. Keep OCV filters clean. Should last. Fingers crossed! But excellent engine.
ZZT231RyDa gts? Is that USA spec? UK and Ireland had Celica T-Sport 140 and 190hp using 2zz-ge also Corolla hatchback T-Sport and Corolla T-Sport Compressor also hatchback.
Yeah here it's Celica GTS and Corolla/Matrix XRS, and of course the Lotus Elise, Exige and 2Eleven.. I have a Pontiac Vibe GT featuring the same eng/trans $550 auction cars FTW.
Two cams in one engine has been the dream of Hot Rodgers since modern Valve Timing was introduced to modern engines. TČhe first attempt was made by Rhoads Lifter company that made special hydraulic valve lifters that bled off pressure at lower RPMs allowing thend came the varicammsystem which changed the advance or retardation of the timing the came to provide different duration as the RPM. Now we have this system which changes the timing events of the camshaft by advancing or retarding of the valve lift under different Rpm Ranges the engine will see during its changes in speed. If you put all of this together and you’ve got electronically actuated valves. What a great system from a performance standpoint and koninsegg already uses. Soon other exotica super cool cars will too!
Amd Propaganda We had TRD M type Matrix(1zz SC). But only 1zz were ever SC. I wish i could find the article where lotus and toyota had disagreement with Sc the 2zz in the toyotas that brought it and their lotus
We have the full training video online what we used to make samples of for this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jbxErSDvQgM.html We currently don't have other similar movies online. I can't really say why Lift never became as popular except for that in general vtec engines where easier to tune and get more power from for less money.
Toyota decided to focus more on economy engines to have more sales on the gallon... the 2zzge would have been an upgrage from the legendary 16 4age if they had focus more on it....my thoughts
VTEC was there first and is utilised in far more models than Toyota's VVTLi. Toyota doesn't have many engines like the 2ZZ-GE whereas Honda has lots of modern performance engines, all using the VTEC system.
@@bradcogan8588 Yamaha left the VVTL-i system and went to VVT-i on the 3SGE BEAMS. And as you know, the BEAMS is boss when it comes to Toyota 4 cylinder engines. But nothing comes close to the K series motors from the Honda motor corp. The K head design is something to behold and can withstand a significantly higher lift cam than any other 4 cylinder engine. Honda is best for 4 cylinder Toyota is best for 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
@@razeenmeyer9728 ye although those BEAMS engines were later than the 2ZZ-GE, it is a 3S-GE which was a bit of a dinosaur at that time and I think implementing a lift system would be too difficult. Toyota and Yamaha didn't abandon it as they've implemented it on engines since, just didn't make sense to completely redesign the 3S-GE for the sake of lift whoch the engine wouldn't benefit greatly from anyway.
We advise to check the liftbolts every major service or around the 40k miles. And replace if signs of wear. The later models don't wear as fast/bad as he old version. But it's a cheap insurance. Also while the valve cover is off, check for wear on the high lobes of the cams. The valve cover has a oil supply that sprays oil on the cams. Check if the line is not blocked (by blowing some air through the line and see if all holes are open.) and replace the little o ring on the oil feed line on the valve cover. Hope it helps.
They are very nice, sadly they don't use the engine any more for any car as the engine does not meet modern emission standards. But they sure would be a blast in small cars. Thanks for the reply
am struggling to get valves and timing kit for Toyota Runx 2ZZ-GE . I am in Swaziland Mbabane, which other car uses same parts as the runx, please assist
Hi Sibusiso, thanks for your question. The Celica with 2ZZ (GTS, T-Sport and SS-II ) uses the same. As well as the european Corolla T-Sport and the American Corolla XRS. As well as the Toyota Matrix xrs. And of course Lotus used them in their Elise 111R, Elise SC, Exige models.
I recently did my timing chain kit, new sprocket and vvti gear ⚙️ on the exhaust cam (be sure to follow instructions on install to avoid damaging the set pin) I ordered my kit from rock auto website. I also highly highly recommend replacing the oil pump while you’re that close to it, it’s been known to be the celica’s weak point.
@@carloscrod_ No, he's right. There's a Corolla T Sport VVTL-i. Same engine & gearbox as the Celica VVTL-i, but way cheaper to buy and more under the radar to daily drive.
Yes it's possible, mechanically it all fits without any problem. The main issue is that the ecu is of a different style compared to a ts. So you eighter need to rewire the harnesses in engine back and dashboard. Or rewire the wires for the ecu and get only the engine harness. Both are time consuming options. Unless you are attached to your Corolla it's better to just trade it in for a TS.
Yeison Alvarez what model is your '99 corolla? E11 or E12? If it's E12 it's an easy fit and should match all engine mount points as any other zz engine, if it's a E11 you might hav an issue with mount points as some E11's had a leanburn engine as opposed to the vvti zz engines even E11's with a zz engine might be different as the engine bay isn't the same as a E12 but it still may fit in. Also a 5spd gearbox will mate up to a vvtl-i but I'd recommend getting the 6spd to make life a bit easier
Unless you're ready to take apart your entire dash to rewire a different harness through he firewall then you're better off just boosting the 1zz. Just don't go over 8lbs of boost if your keeping your internals stock.
all 2zz-ge engine are the same bloc. The intake throttle body/headers/ecu are different on the Celica than the Matrix/Rolla. My 2zz died in my 00 Celica and I installed a 03 Matrix 2zz. Very same bloc. the JDM ECU 20060 ecu is the better one to got for the Celica
@@chrisasimopoulos9821 I know bruh I know. No LIFT with a normal economy corolla. Maybe I could add one those larger egg shaped rockers. Now am curious to see what my engine looks like inside
@@goransvraka3171 Even the normal rollas go well. But the Lift Engines have amazing acceleration after 7,000rpms. It's insane. You just gotta change gears well enuf.
Nathan Vonlanthen ah bugger I want to get one of these and sell my 115kw lancer not sure if it’s worth it. These would definitely be funner to drive. Are these easy to mod?
@@frasermate4729 Definitely worth selling the Lancer for. All of the knowledge I I comes from the internet - I have no experience with them whatsoever IRL so some facts may be wrong. As far as tuneability, just like the Honda B18 these are pretty highly strung from the factory. Fitting an intake, full exhaust and remap might grant you 5 hp. The most gains come from camshafts. With MWR Stage 3 camshafts, valve springs, high compression pistons revving to 9000+ rpm, you might see 240 to 250 crank hp. Add individual throttle bodies, and a 2.0L stroker and top of that, you could be pushing above 280 hp. These engines are expensive to tune naturally aspirated: just like the Honda B or K series. They sound great though. These aren't easy to boost either: the cylinder liners aren't made for boost and anything above 500 to 600 crank hp (obviously with forged jnternals) becomes risky. If you wish to go above 600 crank hp, close the deck. Conclusion: if you plan on doing just some mild modifications, this might not be the engine for you. If you have a few thousands to spend, then you could get good power out of them. I would tell you, go for it anyways. From what I've heard, these are great cars, very enjoyable, and come on. 8250 rpm, how can you say no to that ? If I got one, first 2 mods I would do is upgrade the oil pump (the stock oil pump is underpowered: a few seconds of oil starvation is enough to ruin the engine for good), and fit a shorter final drive ratio. The stock Corolla TS (or Sportivo in Australia) tops 70 kmh in 1st, 110 kmh in 2nd and 150 kmh in 3rd. A shorter final drive getting you to 65 kmh in 1st, 100 kmh in 2nd, 137-138 in 3rd would be perfect. Slight effect on fuel economy, but it would really wake the car up. One of my dream project cars would be a turbocharged, 2ZZ MR2 Spyder pushing 900 crank hp. A supercar killer for sure. Tell me what you think.
@@DimoS... if maintained well and properly warmed up well these engines can last a long time. The oil pump issue is not as big issue as most say. They can go bad but mostly happens when overrevving (accidental downshift) make sure you use good oil and replace the liftbolts once in a while (every 30k miles (50-60k km)
@@DimoS... Some issues with the motor come from people not letting the engine warm up and hard revving causing damage to the cylinder walls because of the coating they used. People not using premium gas with hard revving causing issues as well. If you take the motor to a track day and pull a long, hard turn, the oil pump might suck air and fail. other than that, the motor is pretty strong. my motor is 300K+km and is still fun to drive
Can anyone help me on that? I have an Sti celica '92 with a 4a-fe stock engine which is almost dead at this point. Can I replace it with a 2zz-ge and where can i find a 'new' one? And is there another alternative for better hp/relatively lower oil consumption ? Thanks
Look for jdm engine sellers. For example jdm Orlando. A low mileage 2zz and 6 speed transmission is around 3.5k. As for the oil the 2zzge does not consume oil it was first model 1zzfe. For good NA power on a 2zz I recommend a standalone ecu apexi power fc or ems 4 and get r9k tune. With PPE 3 inch intake and maybe intake manifold you can make around 210-220 wheel horsepower.
@@sosbabe2804 thank you for your advices man. The thing is, im in EU so its particulary rare to find a jdm engine seller here (and reliable ofc). The thing with the 2zz is that its newer and has 1800cc (we get to pay taxes for cc for cars before 2011 ffs). The legendary beast 3sgte on the other hand is older(so extremely unlucky to find in a good condition) and 2.0cc which is terrible for my wallet due to its tax unfortunatelly.
Indeed. Well I assume Toyota did not think it was a poor design themselfs. It's odd that the 1zz has a better pan than the 2zz but I doubt Toyota really thought these would be used in high G situations as they later did in Lotus models etc.
Yeah bit of a weird one. The 1ZZ-FE pan isn't really an upgrade like many think. It just has a windage tray in it. The 2ZZ-GE also has a windage tray but it's fitted to the bottom of the engine not the oil pan. Fitting a 1ZZ-FE pan to a 2ZZ-GE is just doubling up on windage trays which doesn't really do anything. Most owners who know they're gonna corner hard in them weld in baffles or buy an aftermarket pan.
@@bradcogan8588 Many thanks I'll look into this on my next oil change I'm concerned as the corolla had a lot of lean angle and I don't plan on changing the handling geometry.
Ooooh wait you have an automatic, okay. Nevermind my first comment. But yes, get a 6 speed manual if you can. Absolutely. I drive a 2001 GTS 6 speed. 👍👍
It can be done but it’s not advisable because, if you had paid attention to the video.. it points out and shows that the purpose for extra lift and duration is to combat the turbulence associated with higher intake velocity. At lower rpm’s this is not an issue because the airflow is stable and flows just fine. Otherwise they would have designed the engine to run with the valves that far open 100% of the time. You’ll get little to no gains at lower rpm’s like that. Instead, look into other aspects that will improve engine performance
I absolutely thrash mine on the daily constantly hitting about 50rpm from the redline and it’s yet to give me many issues at all, I’ve gone ahead and replaced the timing chain and constantly put new oil through it and nothing has failed yet. Just be sure not to ever downshift too far because you’ll blow the oil pump and that’ll toast the whole engine
It's a completely different engine and was not made with the same goal as a 2AR engine. the AR is a bigger engine build to be practical and economical especially the fxe models with the atkinson cycle. It has more in comon with a B18 engine and to a extend a K20. They where build to be lightweight high revving sporty engines.
@@SVSportscars their a engineer on RU-vid here who swap out the intake cams on fxe and getting around 240hp stock. I got another question 2.0 2zz stroker is good or better as k20 swap?
@@rolldog82 I mean disregarding the specs and how it makes more power easily the kseries engines are designed for performance and are designed really well. 2ar is just a big displacement economy engine for suvs etc
Eduardo Alvarez for turbo engines this is not very useful. In general the turbo will force air in anyway. Airflow etc is much more important in NA cars than Forced induction.
6000 rpm???? I newer go that high. Those systems are just pointles. Theres no problem of making power or efficieny. Trick is to make both plus to be clean.
Borut Goli with these engines you are supposed to go well over 6000 it's build to be a high revving engine. And the short gears make it easy for it to do it. It's a sporty engine and not a low end torque diesel. It's all part of the charm of the engine.
SV Sportscars agreed, also random question but im thinking of buying a Celica VVTL soon, what year would you say is the best? Some say 2001 is best performance wise as the Valve lift kicks in earlier and for longer, is this true? Others say 2003 is the most reliable?? It's confusing me :P
