Toyota Supra MK4 | Over Hyped or Legendary? 

Mark and Jack kept me captive in their basement for six months to make this video. When they finally released me I ran home to my wife who was already remarried to a man who drove a Nissan Murano Cross Cabriolet. My life is ruined but the video is pretty good tbh so I guess it's cool.

I bought mine in 1999 for $18k with 2300 miles on it and only put 2k miles on it since. I sold it right after Covid for $154k. This was on the advice of my father who at the time worked for Toyota. He said “buy this and barely drive it and when you’re in your early 40s, you can put a couple of your kids through college” well, I’m doing just that.

As someone who personally DID grow up with the MKIV Supra (I owned 6 of them between 1999 and 2017), I really want to thank you guys for your wonderful and thorough video celebrating this impressive car from the golden era of Japanese engineering. Although many of us did realize and appreciate the car for being the legend that it is viewed as today, it also felt a bit like a secret to those of us who knew back in the day. Your technical assessment and feedback about its driving dynamics were excellent btw, and shows that you guys really do have a keen sense of what makes a performance car great. The primary example of that is the level of steering feedback, which is absolutely over-assisted and more suited to a GT car than a sports car. Both the steering and the brakes did not offer the feel of several competitors at the time, but yet the overall package was tremendous. That this car could be compared at all to an NSX, third generation Mazda RX-7, or Porsche 911 is actually amazing considering that it was more touring focused. But the legendary combination of 2JZ-GTE and Getrag V160 really gave it a better foundation than anything else out there, particularly when modified. You were right to call out the Fast and Furious movie as having something to do with the Supras growth in popularity, I also believe that would have happened over time without the movie as nothing else was quite so robust from Japan during that era. It's the 'modern muscle car' that gave you a better foundation than everything else, and was able to turn and stop really well with just a few modifications away from stock. When it comes to adding power, the Supra remains nearly in a class of its own, and it was all the way until 2009 with the Nissan GT-R (R35) debuted that you had something that finally surpassed what Toyota had built so much longer before. My sincere thanks to the team at Savage Geese for helping us to remember and commemorate such a great car that helped to shape my automotive life. Although I don't personally own Supras anymore as I agree they are not $100k+ cars to me, I will also never forget these amazing cars and wonderful community of people that I still value so much in my own life. Oh, and don't feel bad for me as I still own a turbocharged Lexus IS300 (with T56) and a Lexus IS-F, two other legendary Japanese cars that I will love forever. But in my heart I will also always be a Supra driver! 🤩

Nostalgia is priceless.

Hard to believe it’s 30 years since the JDM hay day. I remember these days like yesterday. Thanks for the memories and review!

I hate watching these videos because they always pull at my nostalgia strings and make me want what I realistically can't afford or should buy if I could. That being said I will keep watching these videos because they are awesome!

comments are right, you should review the Mazda Rx-7. with all the Mazda support it must be possible

The idea that the mk4 Supra was ever unknown, unwanted or under appreciated is revisionist history. Having grown up in the import scene going back to 1995 I can say we all wanted one, 25k In the year 2000 was still a lot of money for a Supra. And lastly the Mk4 Supra was in the first Fast and Furious because it was already solidified as an amazing tuner car.

Glad that Albon are getting their name out there. They make such good videos. Especially since they expanded out from Supra content to mini-docs.

I’ll continue consuming this throughout the day, but from what I’ve seen, youve done an incredible job giving this car the detail it deserves.

2:54 - can’t believe you used my footage ☺️ glad you guys enjoyed it!

From 1992 to 95... What a time for auto enthusiasts. The C4 just boosted it's bhp. The RX-7 was a clean sheet design. The 3000GT VR4 and Stealth. The new kid on the block 300ZX TT who took this segment by storm in 1990. Finally the best of the group the Supra Turbo. I raced against the imports with my 92 Z51 Vette and it was tiring how often the manual equipped Supra Turbo would beat the vette. Great time for this segment.

Really enjoyed this video. Gen-X Supra luster and in 2003 I got a 1995 Turbo for 25k with 44,000 miles 6-speed targa. I don't really care what it's "Worth", subjective anyways and I will never sell it. So, to me it's a perfect GT car. Agreed, it's not rough edged and is compliant and comfortable for long trips or just a good cruise. The looks are still spectacular and very rare, along with the stout powerplant, beefy short throw trans, and good brakes - It still feels very special to drive and be seen in it after all these years.

Really great video. I’m surprised one thing wasn’t mentioned in regards to the Supra’s popularity though: Gran Turismo. Most of the people who love these cars were kids or teenagers when Gran Turismo was released. That game sparked a love in many (me included) for all these Japanese cars that we either didn’t get in the U.S., like the Skyline, or couldn’t afford at the time. Maybe it’s just me, but any time I think NSX, Supra, RX7, 3000GT etc, I think Gran Turismo immediately.

When I was 19, I had the chance to get my hands on a brand new 1993 1/2 Premier Edition of this car. I kept it for 10 months, put around 1100 miles on it, and then sold it for the same price I bought it. Out of all the cars I've owned, this one was my absolute favorite. Your video does a fantastic job capturing the essence of this car and what it represented back then. The Supra Mark 4 was truly one of a kind and always turned heads wherever I drove it.

Another outstanding quality video from SG, thank you again

The technical know-how from both Albon and SG is off the charts. That's how passion for cars looks like. A collaboration that should have been done before and should happen more, you guys compliment each other. Another documentary styled review of a car that's over 25y old and still done so good... Thanks for doing the effort!

Fun to see a collaboration like this!

Great video, thanks your hard work with each of these legends.

Great Work Between You Guys and Albón, hope you keep this up.

Even by today's standards I think this car looks great. Awesome video fellas.

Fantastic video!! Very well put together.

Superb piece Mark and Jack. Thank you. I grew up with and drove numerous generations/variants of Supra, including Celica Supra. Majestic cars... back then. I ditto Mark's assessment. The Supra was dreamy, but it was the NSX that "changed it all." I knew early on in my younger days that the Japanese had something special up their sleeve...I drove a 1979 Honda CVCC for years. I should have never parted with that car...

Dang, homie couldn’t even clean up those headlights. I owned a 95TT, and it was before I got into modding and track etc, RIP my bank account. ❤ great video !

Small note, you said, "a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder, or the 2JZ" but they were both 2JZ's with minor differences

Mark and Jack great job as always, You guys are the best, always educate and give the history. Thanks for documenting all these cars, in such great detail. I will always support you on Patreon. I never knew this era of Supra used so much aluminum, because it is still pretty heavy, but it one of the greatest cars Toyota made. Only thing I will say the Nissan 300ZX I feel was more of a competitor, more so than the Mitsubishi 3000GT and the Mazda RX-7. I always felt the Nissan 300ZX went toe to toe with the Supra.

Love collabs by good channels. Thanks for the video!!!

Just goes to show how much engineering for chassis/suspension has coming a long way in the last 30+ years. Today, probably even an SUV from BMW/Audi or Lexus have less torsional/longitudinal twist/flex and more roll resistance than a sports coupe like Supra MK4 had back in the early 90s.

Great video especially with Albons history lesson and in-depth knowledge on the car. I hope you guys get the chance to do more older cars like the MR2 sw20

Another spectacular video. Pure quality as always !

Just dropping in to say how much I appreciate the insight if enthusiasts to expand on the emotional side of certain cars 👍🏼

That Celica XX has strong SD1 vibes. It was amazing that the MR2 was around at the same time and even somewhat outlasted it.

I think it's great you mentioned the Lexus SC300 played a role in this car coming about, great details in this review.

Loved the format of this video!

This was fantastic and the info segment with the history was awesome and so well done. Thanks guys

This is now my favorite style of video on this channel. Although I like seeing the cars on the road more than the track. Since the 300zx began the jdm trend, I think it's be awesome to see a 25 min Z vid!

It's amazing the level of engineering they did back then to make this car the best as they could make it. It's a shame no one ever recognizes that and only thinks of the mk4 as a ultimate tuner car

I skipped over this video a few times cuz I thought it would just be a rehash but this video turned out to be truly a treat. The quality of the content speaks for itself I was proven wrong and honestly glad I was. Keep up the good work guys 💯

Loved the colab! Been following Albon forever, gald to see them get their flowers.

having owned a mk1, and mk3, presently own 1 gen GS...i will always drive inline 6 engines love their flexibility and reliability

I'm surprised they didn't do more comparison to the 300ZX, which was actually the closest of the Japanese competitors. They keep going back to the NSX and FD RX, which had very different objectives.

Captivating presentation. Well done!

Great review and perspective on the Supra! It's a true JDM legend, I used to obsess over them in late 90's and early 2000's watching all sorts of awesome Supra videos. I like the blunt honesty about the cost of one vs what you consider value in car based on the cars experience. I suppose their values is based on the availability and the supply of good ones are probably pretty limited. Especially completely stock in good to excellent condition. Interesting comparison between the NSX and Supra at the end.

That was an amazing history lesson.

I remember in the late 90s, the popular thing to do at the tuning houses in Japan with Mark IV Supras was to ditch the 2JZGTE entirely, an install a 3SGTE mounted behind the front axle centerline with a horizontal intercooler. This lessened weight AND improved the weight distribution and the serious tuners were still making 600-700 ps for their time attack and circuit monsters! It reminds me of the 4G63 and K24 Fox Bodies that people build nowadays!!

5x MKIV owner here from stock to 1100WHP and several iterations in between. I appreciate and generally agree with the detailed assessment, though I do wish the example was a USDM model, which has a few tangible improvements over the JDM. Totally agree that today's values are absurd, and with the discontinuation of many critical OEM parts the future is uncertain for those that actually want to drive/experience the car vs being a 'collectors' garage ornament. Anyhey... Fun fact RE: over-engineering -- there is 100+ WHP to be gained just from uncorking the exhaust and adding a boost controller. The USDM turbos and fuel system happily make 400-450WHP depending on octane and run mid-low 11's with the driver mod (I've done this - see my channel). Lastly, the long-term influence on values, notoriety, etc.. of the FnF is comically, if not egregiously blown wayyyy out of proportion, despite it being mindlessly parroted still to this day.

i love this collab so much. thanks mr geese, thanks albon.

What a great video. Thanks guys.

This was my childhood dream car. Eventually bought a ‘97 TT6 in the rare rsp color. This is a great nostalgic car with sentimental value but my R35 GTR is way more car for half the cost.

These videos are timeless. They’re works of art that will live forever.

Ty; yet another top tier presentation from SG!

Legendary video for a legendary car. Thank you boys. Love the drive through with you.

I cannot believe Jack made it all the way through this video without saying B58

People who say Fast and Furious made the Supra popular was not a tuner back then. The Supra was already hyped up back then before Fast and Furious. The movie is what made you aware of the tuner scene.

One of another awesome uploadd ❤

That has to be the best video ever analyzing the Supra. 👍

Y'all really skipped the 82-86 Celica Supra MK2 with it's rock solid 5M-GE and it's timeless knife cut design in the history intro ? :(

As a former JDM 94 TT auto (stock) owner I will also say this video is bang on. Well done.

incredible video as always

Awesome video by the two most underrated automotive journalists!

I had one exactly like this... miss that black beast... :-( the Supra IV just had so much character. You felt like you were getting into a jetfighter cockpit with the wrap around console... the air con felt like a hurricane. they dont make cars like this anymore.

Properly hyped

This is a fantastic video, thank you!

Great video. Looking forward to the NSX video.

MK4 is a legend. Even the new mk5 has grown on me a lot now.

These guys are dope. They present so well

Seeing the Supra at 5:59 it feels like seeing an old friend. Reminds me of the good old days of playing ps2 and 360 racing games and seeing the Supra on the showroom turntable

I loved everything everything about this video. Great job

It can be both. Its performance on both track and quarter mile was nothing to sneeze at but the engine was its main claim to fame due to how stout it was and its ability to handle a lot of boost which is still impressive even when compared to engines of today. Combined with its looks(which is subjective), a little help from Paul walker, and some video games, the Supra went from barely talked about in the US to being next to impossible to find stock. But that's where it ends. The engine wasn’t exactly exclusive as it was available in plenty of Toyota/Lexus models with the gte version being an exception kinda as it was only in 2 other products. Looks, as stated before, are subjective. They weren’t exactly cheap either. In today’s money, an a80 would run you about 50k for a regular model. And like any performance oriented car, unless you were an enthusiast, it be hard to justify paying that kind of money for a Toyota as opposed to similarly/cheaper priced sports cars and gt cars in the US market. So it never really sold. And the performance, while solid, couldn’t keep up with most of the big name jdm cars of the 90s. And it wouldn’t hold up as well to the cars of recent times either with the exception being the gte(but you’re gonna swap that out with a big turbo anyway to get that famed 1000hp number). *TLDR:* The supra definitely deserves its praise for its performance, engine and moreover, its friendliness towards high boost but a good amount of the hype generated by the car were more so by casual fans and people who in reality wouldn’t even buy it in the first place.

Love my 95 Supra SE (normally aspirated, 5 speed W58), stock motor, only suspension mods, but I'm surprised how much attention it gets.

I cannot WAIT for your NSX video!

I learned a lot in this video. I knew the Supra of this generation was always sought after but never quite realized the story behind the car. I’m not a huge Toyota fan personally but always respected this car for the performance it offered.

Just happy no discussion on infotainment system.

Those headlights are world class for sure. Never mind the engine

My first car was a 1987 manual Celica and I loved it at the time

Like Steve Theodore, I am a Supra OG (if you've heard of the "lance alignment" that would be me). I've owned only two, but I've had a hardtop TT 6 speed almost continuously since 1994. I had a 15 month lapse from 1995 to 1997 after my ex totaled my first one. The review is interesting especially from the perspective that Toyota set records with the Supra that stood for a very long time in the magazine testing world. The OE tires all the test mules ran were Michelin Pilot MXX3s. They had to be special ordered and you needed to provide your VIN to get them. This is doubtless the reason the magazine cars performed so well, but I can personally vouch for their stickiness and short service life. Yes, the Supra needs to be pushed before it settles down and gets with the program. It doesn't feel good at 80%, but really comes into its own at 90% and up. That was pretty common in the '90s cars, and it is normal for any proper racecar. The other thing that struck me as odd - I have never forgot my first test drive in the MkIV Supra in 1994. It was loud. REALLY loud from road noise. It was stiff compared to everything available in 1993 short of a go kart. Definitely stiffer than my '08 IS F and my '16 GS F. I'm not sure what was going on with the car you were driving, but the ripped shock boot made me think those Bilsteins had seen better days. Yes, for track work, stiffer springs are a necessity, but the factory setup was a pretty solid compromise biased toward stability at speed. The latest factory offerings have moved well beyond the MkIV's capabilities, and I have no illusions about my Supra being competitive with recent real sports cars even with full ticket suspension updates and solid bushings. But it definitely is an old friend who likes to have fun with me, and can still keep a smile on my face 29 years later.

Great and informative video. I expect nothing else from Savage Geese crew. The addition from Albon was a nice touch as well I think they added a lot more depth to the video with the history of the supra and their own personal experiences

Toyota in the mid 2000s went so lean on performance cars that the fastest car they had for a few years was the 2006 RAV4 V6. Let that sink in...

This is a GREAT video!

I grew up and loved the Supra MK3 and MK4. Owned both and sold them, but he's right. I wouldn't overpay them nowadays. I rather be more happy with a 2023 GR86 6 spd manual.

In my opinion, since you're asking, is that the Supra was a car that can't really be compared to anything we have now. For it's time it was a beast of a car. It was very common to put out 800 hp on stock internals. And the transmission would be swapped into other platforms because they were stout. And in my opinion the lines of the car are ageless. Like a Porsche. Just never gets old. Nothing at the time could do what the Supra did so easily. With that said if you pick it apart it wasn't particularly nimble. And they had old school engineering. Brackets upon brackets in the engine bay. And as much as I love the the oe wheels on the mkiv those things were way too small. Bottom line is there's a reason why til this day the most powerful and fastest import drag racing cars use the 2JZ platform. Yes at that level nothing is stock. But each platform has its limits. And the fact that the limit of a 2JZ is closer to 2k horsepower tells the engine was just one of a kind.

I had a 1994 manual, dark green on beige (from 1999-2002, sold after some fast furious hype) ... Shoulda kept it lol

city pop intro music was very fitting, nice touch

Mark IV Supra was definitely legendary for its time back in the 90s. Today, it's overhyped and overpriced with sellers still thinking their Mark IV Supra is in high demand no matter what condition its in. I wouldn't spend more than $10,000 usd on a used Mark IV Supra. With the new Mark V Supra, rather just get that car because it'll be in new condition, has less than 10 miles, has more power, looks amazing, and most of all, still has warranty on it. My friends and relatives back then always mentioned that once they saved up enough money, they were going to get a Mark IV Supra. Come time to pick one up, they changed their minds and went with newer sports cars because they get more bang for their bucks. Today, only reason why you would pick up a Mark IV is because you really love that car.

We need one about the mr2!!! sw20 :D

Here in Australia, my friend had a Mk4 Supra back when they were considered 90s shitboxes. He loved it but sold it without making a profit. A couple years later the value started going up, and now, he would have had 10 times the money what he paid for.

Great video! So when you doing the C4-ZR-1?

Collaboration not competition, love seeing content creators work together

The Celica could have been legendary if the US got all the same engine options as Japan. We missed out on so many. The 18RG, 4AGE, 3TGTE, 2nd gen and up 3SGE, 3rd gen 3SGTE. I would have loved a BEAMS 3SGE Celica.

6:18 "Gone were the creases because now we are in the Jelly Bean era of car design." I was drinking the koolaid back then and loving it but yea they didn't age that gracefully. I think the MKIII looked the best in its last year. But that's my opinion.

Very nice, I enjoyed this.

I remember the 1993 Road & Track had a Supra on the cover. I've wanted one ever since. Probably won't ever get one unless I win a lottery. But you could be damn sure I'd get one.

Anyone got any EVOs to lend these guys? Would love to see all 10 in one episode.

I was one of those guys that owned 7 DSM's. Lol. 3 front wheel drives. 3 all wheel drives. And one convertible. The last 91 I had I truly regret selling. It was an abs model with sunroof. And was insanely mint. Interior was flawless. Exterior flawless. Oh well.

Perfect look back on reality and nostalgia 👍🙏

Your best video so far!

Cars like this and the Skyline got legend status in games like Gran Turismo. Japanese developers made them better than other cars in the game, and a generation of kids took it as fact.

I remember the old joke: What do a 400, 700, and 1000hp Supra have in common? They all run 12s. Not true at all anymore, but those cars were fun for their receptiveness to mods, not their driving dynamics.

I've always really liked these cars. And I was really impressed when in the early 90's I raced a stock twin turbo Supra with my modified 84 Trans am and got blown away by it.

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