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Toyota Tacoma vs GMC Canyon - Which Midsize Pickup Pulls this Travel Trailer Best? 

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Thanks to our friends at Gimme Shelter RV (www.gimmerv.com/) for use of the travel trailer.
We put the 2021 Toyota Tacoma Trail Edition up against the GMC Canyon AT4 to find out which is the better tow vehicle.
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@TheWolf1203
@TheWolf1203 2 года назад
adaptive cruise control. blind spot monitoring. pre collision warning. lane departure warning. reliability. resale value. tacoma all the way.
@algleasonag
@algleasonag 2 года назад
I believe the Tacoma owner's manual states when towing one should use S mode with ETC, not normal auto trans mode. Auto trans mode will continually try to up shift into overdrive, which will eventually ruin the gear.
@brenrom1288
@brenrom1288 3 года назад
We have a 2019 zr2 and you have described exactly how it feels to tow in the Canyon. Also, digging the plaid on plaid look!
@jambachips7936
@jambachips7936 3 года назад
Both awesome trucks! I’d be willing to say 90% Tacoma owners aren’t looking to tow anything. Rather, they’d be weighing down the truck with steel bumpers and tents etc.
@nikeplayer90game
@nikeplayer90game 2 года назад
Agreed!
@jacobtrue9702
@jacobtrue9702 Год назад
i have one and so true
@justindasilva73
@justindasilva73 Год назад
Yeah will all 990 lbs of payload 😂😂 gm ftw
@pakviroti3616
@pakviroti3616 Год назад
And you would be wrong. I have a 2017 SR% Tacoma, I tow a lot. And I know other Taco owbers that tow.
@westcoastplinkin6559
@westcoastplinkin6559 Год назад
@@justindasilva73 In 10 years, the Toyota will still be running with no issues while the GM, well it's a GM.
@terrynewell4749
@terrynewell4749 3 года назад
I agree with the results, but honestly if I was going to tow a lot I would buy a half ton. I have a Tacoma and love it for daily use, reliability and occasional towing. And I trust it’s reliability and long term value. I do believe you should always over buy for what your towing to be safe. For a load that you tested I would prefer a half ton.
@shawncordeiro1150
@shawncordeiro1150 3 года назад
those trucks are pretty much half tons look at how much a xanyon can carry 1400lbs is same as half ton
@billybritt5334
@billybritt5334 2 года назад
I just bought a 2022 colorado got 2000 miles could not find a taco
@revilsdr
@revilsdr 2 года назад
I completely agree people buy midsize trucks and then wanna max tow, but that can be very dangerous especially at long distances. Max towing a lot can also cause premature wear on a midsize trucks engine and transmission.
@Joe-qw6il
@Joe-qw6il 2 года назад
I would never trade my Taco for a Canyon, I would rather downsize the trailer down to a 16-17 footer instead--just the wife and I anyways!
@alexisgonzalez5927
@alexisgonzalez5927 2 года назад
I understand what u mean but it’s like using a f-150 and testing it to the max and u saying I would just buy a 2500 it’s completely different.my opinion
@MrSujano
@MrSujano 2 года назад
Awesome video! This was one of the vids I referenced to help me decide on the 2.8 Canyon AT4. Keep up the amazing content!
@michaelmacvicar2654
@michaelmacvicar2654 2 года назад
I liked this comparison. It shows initial value of what you’re paying for. Also glad American manufacturers are putting some of that initial value pressure on Toyota as it’s sure to help keep Toyota prices in check for when I buy a new one.
@4wdiesels
@4wdiesels 2 года назад
Sadly even though the Canyon out performed the Tacoma, I would still pick that Toyota over the GMC. I had a 2011 Tacoma PreRunner SR5 and it just felt well made. The old 4.0 V6 felt like it would run forever. And then that resale value!
@andrewc9234
@andrewc9234 2 года назад
they havent put the 4.0 in a tacoma in 6 years now
@joe00camaross
@joe00camaross 2 месяца назад
I have owned multiple Tacoma’s and although they were mechanically sound the body and suspension wasn’t meant for a tow or daily work truck IMO. I purchased a new 2015 Canyon SLT and since having it I now realize the huge difference in what a solid truck feels like. Best way I can explain it is the Canyon feels like I’m getting in an Escalade, the Tacoma felt like a tin can. I use it to tow a 6X10 dump trailer and move my Kubota BX with it.
@mozeby1975
@mozeby1975 19 дней назад
I’ve got a ‘23 Taco. The owner forums of the 16+ models has people with more issues than I ever read about in 4years of driving a ‘20&’22 Trail Boss. Issues from all kinds of things mechanical, electrical or body. The Chevy complaints were mainly the same thing and less frequent. At least the resale is good so if I end up with a lemon I won’t get stuck with negative equity.
@kevinvoyer3122
@kevinvoyer3122 2 года назад
Great test guys! I have been towing a Grey Wolf 24 JS, at 27’ overall and 4,500-5,600lbs. With a 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, WT, V6, that does a great job, easily maintaining legal speeds on all roads and grades, with a nice reserve for passing. I do use a Fastway E2 Weight Distribution Hitch, plus have the factory trailer brake control from Chevy.
@bw6078
@bw6078 2 года назад
i'm looking to buy a Canyon or Colorado myself for towing a 5500lb trailer. Is there really any difference between any of the different models of the Colorado or Canyon for towing ability? Does the factory trailer brake mount under the dash or in the dash? Thanks ahead of time.
@yotaforlife8408
@yotaforlife8408 3 года назад
great review guys love this channel
@wes326
@wes326 3 года назад
I have a 2016 Colorado V6. I would not tow 8' wide trailers due to the side mirrors. Works fine with narrow and pop-up trailers. I would also keep trailer weight below 5,000 lbs if towing in the mountains.
@mattersr.7542
@mattersr.7542 3 года назад
I bought a GMC once, 80k on it!! Repairs, brakes and rotors, both front wheel bearing assemblies, rear drums/ brakes and both wheel cylinders leaking, front diff output shaft seal, rear diff pinion and carrier bearings, ujoints, front 4x axle actuator, new control arms and upper and lower ball joints 3 alignments, rusty a$$ fenders. Lights would flutter every time i hit the breaks or traction control would kick in/constant light bulb changes......sold at 140k payed more in repairs in one year then i did in payments....have owned tacoma and tundra and both outlasted my f250 diesel which was another money pit!!
@diosantiago3407
@diosantiago3407 2 года назад
Your so right.
@mattersr.7542
@mattersr.7542 2 года назад
@David Chaney LOL the guy at the Delano chevy store in MN said thats why GM only warranties up to 100k, as they were replacing the front pass wheel bearing. That was covered under warranty because i was below 100k for mileage!!
@andrademeza
@andrademeza 2 года назад
same shit with the chevy Colorado's, My 2016 chevy Colorado lasted 55k miles over 3 years. I didn't make the mistake of sinking money into it though, i got rid of it quick.
@lestatdelioncourt9335
@lestatdelioncourt9335 2 года назад
Exactly, one thing they didn’t cover was longevity. Few thousand more, missing a few bells and whistles over the GMC. But I’d rather pay a few thousand more ,sacrifice the bells and whistles,which let’s be real , you don’t need them. What you do need is a truck that’ll hold up! And Toyota got that in abundance! Don’t get me wrong here I loved my 2015 gmc Denali 3500. But if Toyota offered one, I’d go with Toyota! My work car is a 05 Camry 238k (v6)original drive train and accessories, only thing I’ve replaced was a pulley. Brothers 04 tundra (v8,when he sold it) 372k original drive train,dads 85 Camry (4 cyl),405k, junked it due to the fuel lines eroding away,05 Toyota 4Runner (v6) 271k,sister 04 Lexus rx300(I think it was the 300) at 330k the valve seals went(sold it for 2200), moms old Sienna over 250k when sold. All of them on original drive train, no major repairs.
@michaelstratos7803
@michaelstratos7803 2 года назад
Dude forgets to mention he got it at grandmas garage sale GMC is 100x better than Toyota
@garretlewis4103
@garretlewis4103 3 года назад
Canyon for me. Of course I have a 2016 Colorado Z71. However, like anything. You need the right tool for the right job. The Canyon/Colorado (except ZR2) probably a little less off road capable “out of the box”. I really like the Canyon AT4.
@communis_
@communis_ 3 года назад
Thanks for the comparison, fellas. Can't wait to see you run this same test with the 2022 Frontier
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
You and me both!
@travelinman482
@travelinman482 3 года назад
@@TruckKing If you’re serious about towing (safely), you delete the 4x4 drivetrain when purchasing a truck and opt for the baby Duramax powertrain. Every luxury item on the pickup adds unnecessary weight and deducts your overall payload/towing capacity numbers. And yes, I’m cannot wait to see the new Frontier up close. #FrontyTheWorld! Lol
@bookooc5605
@bookooc5605 2 года назад
@@travelinman482 google duramax 3.0 problems....and see what a nightmare that is. Typical GM crap
@jasonquaile2492
@jasonquaile2492 2 года назад
@@bookooc5605 The canyon doesn't use the 3.0 ... that's in the half ton
@safespaceinvader8065
@safespaceinvader8065 3 года назад
Great video, looking to be able to haul stuff here and there and this video gave me more confidence with my 2021 GMC Canyon Elevation High truck!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@imperatorlightoneous1382
@imperatorlightoneous1382 2 года назад
I have the 2021 SR5 trail edition 4x4 Tacoma in the army green just like the 1 youre testing. I've been really thinking about getting a rv trailer so thank you very much for sharing this. My Tacoma here in Delaware US was $37,900. I would have preferred a GMC but, at these tough times with lack of chips for vehicles and high gas I couldn't afford anything better. Awesome video and thank you again
@dfox3833
@dfox3833 2 года назад
Bravo guys !! Love all your explanation , and the best part , you give us Canadians prices and info , keep it up great job
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 года назад
We will!
@great0789
@great0789 Год назад
I towed my RV from the East coast… all over the Midwest… to the West coast… down the West coast…. And back to the East coast with my 18’ Colorado with the V6 and 8spd. Even did some off-roading in Moab, UT on the way back. It was the trip of a lifetime and the truck did AMAZING! I now want to get a second one for the family now that o tow on the regular (got a horse and getting cattle). I want a diesel too!!! Lol May get one for the kids as their first vehicles when they get older as well.
@markflaugh2293
@markflaugh2293 3 года назад
Great review and hit all the important points and IMPARTIAL! 👍🏻
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Much appreciated!
@jlh505050
@jlh505050 3 года назад
Another quality review of real world mid-size truck towing. Like the older/younger perspectives.
@stephenzerfas5307
@stephenzerfas5307 3 года назад
Canyon for me too. I tow the 1k heavier version of this trailer with an F-150. You want all the truck you can afford towing. The payload is a problem on the Taco (great job explaining). The Taco really sounded like it was laboring. Great review.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Год назад
The Tacoma with the 4L V6 was a slug by itself, their new 3.5L V6 didn't help anything at all. Not a Tacoma fan, never was, the ridiculous prices on them, and their dismal fuel economy for a V6 and their piss poor power made it an easy choice to go with a Tundra several years ago...now with the V8 gone from the Tundra I've turned to other automakers for my truck duties.
@RomanVentura
@RomanVentura 5 месяцев назад
@@wildbill23cthere’s a reason why they’re so expensive. Toyotas are built right and last longer.
@n2cycles
@n2cycles 3 года назад
Hands down the GM if towing was on my list of must haves. I'd go with the diesel as well
@tomrandall4871
@tomrandall4871 2 года назад
I have the 2020 GMC Canyon Denali Diesel Crew cab Long bed. With the auto Trac and manual override for 2wd hi. 4 hi/4low and neutral for being dingy towed behind a pusher motor home. Best highway 2wd mileage doing 65 to 70mph was 37.4 mpg. However I use standyne diesel fuel treatment at every fuel up. Just 6 oz. To 21 gallons. Engine runs smoother and the DEF runs less ! GM has their version through their parts dept. It is good to use at every fuel stop. Cause some stations have crappy diesel and the fuel treatment evens it out.
@just_another_guy_with_opinions
@just_another_guy_with_opinions 3 года назад
I currently have a 2020 Tacoma TRD Sport 4x2 towing that same 21FBRS. My tow rating is 6700lbs with the tow package. My TT weights out at about 5K with our stuff, my BH, me and the dog. Only real issue we had on our cross-country trip(US) last year was fuel ecomomy. You are correct about the trailer brake setup and mirrors. I had a Prodigy P2 brake controller installed at Gander RV and found a great set of aftermarket tow mirrors that replaced the factory mirrors. I also have a Husky Centerline WDH hitch as well to keep the trailer from getting squirrelly in the wind. I keep my speed at about 60mph to get the best MPG that we can squeeze towing our Hut. For what traveling we do, this setup works for us. If I had to do over again, I might have gone with a lighter trailer, but the BH likes her creature comforts.....lol
@anthonyrosado9753
@anthonyrosado9753 2 года назад
Good to know, I have a 2021 SR5 2wd and planning on getting a similar RV trailer.
@just_another_guy_with_opinions
@just_another_guy_with_opinions 2 года назад
@@anthonyrosado9753 I would definitely consider a lighter trailer with a dry weight around 3000-3500 and dry hitch under 350. The propane and batteries will add weight as well. Also take a look at your yellow sticker on the drivers side door jam and check your payload number as well to make sure your Taco can handle the load. And lastly, make sure you get a good WDH.
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 2 года назад
I personally would at the very least replace the rear shocks to something better. I got some bilstein 5160s in the back and the significantly improve handling.
@edgee7296
@edgee7296 3 года назад
I traded a '15 Taco TRD Sport for an '18 GMC Canyon SLE Duramax, and I haven't looked back. The lower revs & higher torque makes a longer drive more comfortable. My TT is a Passport 234qbwe, 3800 lbs dry, 6000lbs max and don't regret the trade. Thanks guys for the video.
@williamrowe7669
@williamrowe7669 2 года назад
Pulling a Salem cruise light 4200lb with the GMC AT4. It works great.
@josephsimms5123
@josephsimms5123 Год назад
This is exactly what i needed to watch thank you brotha. Subscribed
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Год назад
Glad I could help
@chadsteele1
@chadsteele1 3 года назад
Towed a 3800lb trailer with my 06 Tacoma trd was terrible. Traded it for a Nissan xterra which vastly improved the towing experience, power wise. Since upgraded to a Nissan Titan to pull a much heavier trailer.
@georgehoy5144
@georgehoy5144 3 года назад
For best towing with the Colorado/Canyon the Crew Cab long bed with the Duramax is your best option. Consider adding towing mirrors like the Boost for best safety and visibility.
@samduran5180
@samduran5180 3 года назад
Exactly that's the best mid size combo hands down
@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672
@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672 2 года назад
For that price you can buy the 1500 Sierra with the 3.0l diesel for same money 🤔
@jface3806
@jface3806 3 года назад
I have the diesel Canyon, came with the trailer controller and trailer sway sensing that works with it. Took my 6500+lb cargo trailer across the US for a move and it did surprisingly well. And I got 29mpg avg this past week traveling from northern Utah to Phoenix area and back hitting and climbing into national parks the whole way. That thing can do it all.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 3 года назад
Have you had any issues with the diesel in your truck? Wondering how they're going to hold up over time with the DEF stuff they have in them now. I like the Canyon/Colorado over the Tacoma any day....not a Tacoma fan, never have been. I bought a 2008 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V8 double cab 4x4 6.5' bed new in 2008. I sat in a 2008 Tacoma, it was cramped. Tried to test drive a Tacoma, didn't go far at the time they still had the 4L V6, that thing is sluggish at best for the size/weight of the Tacoma now. I don't think they helped matters any by cutting off 1/2 a liter either. I don't tow all that often, so a diesel I'm not sure would be the way to go considering the initial purchase price jump, as well as additional maintenance and repair costs that comes with a diesel....if I had the funds and was in the market for a mid-size truck the Canyon or Colorado would certainly be my choice, probably not the diesel as its not something I'd need but the 3.6L V6 certainly sounds like a good alternative for those like myself that doesn't need the towing grunt of the diesel all the time....then again if I were towing that often I'd be buying a larger diesel 3/4 or 1 ton truck honestly over a mid-size truck.
@MrRyanmcmahon
@MrRyanmcmahon 2 года назад
I love my canyon..... More comfort, and style..Looks better too.
@jacoe33333
@jacoe33333 2 года назад
You got 29 mpg towing. Mmmmm
@jface3806
@jface3806 2 года назад
@@jacoe33333 sorry, that wording was a little confusing. Unloaded I got 29 on that trip, fully loaded trailer avg'd 15.4 over 2000 miles 👍
@jacoe33333
@jacoe33333 2 года назад
@@jface3806 Thank you. 😄That is really good mileage. Have you had any issues with your truck ?
@rawthentic.
@rawthentic. 2 года назад
Either those trucks are that small or this dude is a giant. Love the video comparison! I love how the Canyon looks!
@canadianshark74
@canadianshark74 2 года назад
Best "real life" truck channel on YT. Keep up the great work! cheers
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@nikeplayer90game
@nikeplayer90game 2 года назад
The production of this video feels like I’m watching a show on tv but better because it’s on RU-vid. Keep up the great work mate
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@jimacheson4933
@jimacheson4933 3 года назад
Good honest review. Thanks
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@shawnn6926
@shawnn6926 Год назад
I bought a new 2015 GMC Canyon and from day 1 had transmission issues. After 3 trips back to the dealership with no fixes, i threw in the towel and sold it before it at 10k on the clock. Years later i bought a '17 Tacom TRD Sport and was towing a 22' SeaRay with twin axle with no problems. I still have the Tacoma and plan on keeping it till 300k (miles).
@dwanewilson1509
@dwanewilson1509 6 месяцев назад
It is good at the end of the video you guys brought up reliability and resale. It will be interesting to see how many "Canyons" are still on the road ten years from now. I bought a 2008 Toyota Tundra and drove the truck for 15 years without any issues. When I bought my 2022 Taco, I was not happy with the hp. I purchased the "Magnason Supercharger", and it is awesome 380hp!! Having owned many Toyota vehicles, I will be driving this truck for 15 years. I am confident, I will not see "Canyons" 15 years from now.
@TeeMyke
@TeeMyke 2 года назад
I have a Tacoma and towed my Wolf Pup (approx the same size trailer as you've guys tested) on a 4000 mile towing trip two weeks ago and it did pretty good. Since we were going to Grand Teton, Yellowstone, Glacier all the big hills certainly made the poor lil truck scream while going up hills in second gear, but I had no complaints about handling. I do have an Anderson Weight dist hitch so I'm certain that played a major role in the handling. Canyon looks like a better pick if you tow a lot though. Great review!
@gabesvidz
@gabesvidz 2 года назад
im looking to get a wolfpup 14cc for my 2019 TRD Off road V6 Tacoma and was wondering how it would handle it. GVWR iof trailer is 3900 . Hoping it will get by ok. how heavy was your wolf pup on your towing trip. ?
@TeeMyke
@TeeMyke 2 года назад
@@gabesvidz I have the 16FQ, unloaded weight is ~3000 lbs. With a couple weeks of supplies it'd maybe be around ~3600 lbs. All the sites we were going to had water so our tanks were empty. It had a hard time in some of the worst grade hills by the parks mentioned above, but taking them slow worked out just fine. I'm in the midwest so our typical use-cases it handles just fine. I'd recommend the Anderson weight distribution hitch. It's night and day how much better swaying got.
@rickmcelroy5851
@rickmcelroy5851 Год назад
You know it’s funny whatever they’re testing and get results a lot jumps on board I’ve had Toyos in the past and they are very tough the gmc will be something in the past while the Toyo is still going strong 😮
@bennyb6071
@bennyb6071 3 года назад
Enjoyed this review
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Awesome, thank you!
@nonipaulette4520
@nonipaulette4520 3 года назад
great channel. helpful insight for truck users. thanks alot.
@joseramos7476
@joseramos7476 3 года назад
Great review
@gordonwbell
@gordonwbell 2 года назад
Love my 2018 Canyon All Terrain Cloth Diesel short bed. Bought it used with 29K on it - best way to get one IMO, but have drive it 52000 km, back and forth to work (100km round trip), highway cruising (1-2 hrs), road trips ( best mileage - 750 km round trip on a single tank - 90 km/hr and avg 7.6 L/100), pulling a horse trailer (2.5 hrs, 11L/100) and total life I’m avg 8.9L/100. Recently upgrade the tires to BF Goodrich KO2s LT255/65/17, D rated, have to run 40 psi, so I’ll see what the mileage looks like in the next bit but early indications are minimal losses. Also, removed the air dam, looks so much better.
@MrJons420
@MrJons420 3 года назад
Nice to see that air dam removed. You guys should do another Canyon AT4 video with that gone, just to see what it will do
@dannybailey2882
@dannybailey2882 3 года назад
Great shoot out.
@judejackson1924
@judejackson1924 3 года назад
Which one is going to last longer. Bet the tacoma will. And hold its value.
@luyennguyen2010
@luyennguyen2010 3 года назад
But Tacoma can't do the same job that we need.
@goingindieEN
@goingindieEN 3 года назад
@@luyennguyen2010 Depends what your needs are. If you are going to tow over 6000, just get a half ton instead of a mid size.
@luyennguyen2010
@luyennguyen2010 3 года назад
Tacoma can't handle over 4000 lbs properly, How can it handle up to 7400 lbs ? False ad or cheating ? plus Tacoma and Tundra have problem with their rust chassis, also gas millage is poor
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 3 года назад
If you live somewhere up north where they salt the roads, the Canyon will last longer. Toyota frames turn to dust
@91Bronco
@91Bronco Год назад
The stock toyota shocks make it feel like you're driving a boat around. But I have my shocks and springs upgraded and it stiffened it right up and feels great towing
@109jacosta
@109jacosta 3 года назад
I have had a 19 Z71 Colorado with the Duramax for 38,000 miles now. Have towed.my two horse trailer a 10' and a 14' utility trailer with it I love the torque and fuel mileage.
@dragoonTT
@dragoonTT 3 года назад
That’s sweet, how long are you planning on keeping it for?
@109jacosta
@109jacosta 3 года назад
@@dragoonTT Probably another 5 years anyway. Will have to see what's available at the time.
@fishingismydrug1
@fishingismydrug1 2 года назад
We have a keystone bullet 1900rd, towing it with a frontier 4.0V6. I added extendable tow mirrors, Timbren bump stops, brake controller. Does it do the job? Yes. Do it well? No. Id rather have a half ton. A half ton will give better control, as they're longer, wider, and heavier.
@PVo-1111
@PVo-1111 2 года назад
I changed my SR5 shocks out with the TRD sport shocks and it was a huge difference in the sway and bounce when I tow. The SR5 shocks are horrible. I also added a leaf in the rear and that helped my towing tremendously. I can tell you the GMC is the better truck in this comparison. I still love my Taco though.
@whitetiger5181
@whitetiger5181 Год назад
I don't know why they didn't just put good shocks in all tacomas. That's the reason I'm goin with a TRD sport. My stepfather has a 99 SR5 and that thing is rough to ride it. Every little hole feels like a giant crater . I can't put up with that shit
@channelnamehere4065
@channelnamehere4065 3 года назад
Lease the GMC. Own the Toyota. Simple.
@cousinstu
@cousinstu Год назад
You hit the nail on the head. The value is resale, just like he said... and reliability. My brand new 2021 gm silverado truck left me stranded twice in the first year.... I'm picking up a Taco tomorrow. I should have known better.
@larrymarket9658
@larrymarket9658 Год назад
@@cousinstu you don’t wanna wait for the next gen Taco?
@cousinstu
@cousinstu Год назад
@@larrymarket9658 I don't get that excited about new stuff. I'll get a 4th gen in a few years.
@alancummings5651
@alancummings5651 Год назад
Well my Tacoma did not fen get 83k miles before the motor failed. And it only saw synthetic and was pampered. Worse truck ever I’ve owned.
@mistahjay_racing2751
@mistahjay_racing2751 Год назад
Tacoma will always be the one to buy
@DesmoLocke
@DesmoLocke 3 года назад
Good video. More midsize truck content please!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
More to come!
@davidmiller1850
@davidmiller1850 3 года назад
I have a 2016 Canyon with the v6 gas. I currently tow a 28 foot travel trailer with a weight of 5300 lbs. With a weight distribution hitch, the Canyon tows it at highway speeds with little to no hesitation.
@KHudd
@KHudd Год назад
I tow 4,000lb with the Colorado. Do you know what your transmission temp runs when towing? I'm not sure what "NORMAL" operating temp is when towing but mine runs around 200 degree in tow mode while on flat land and am wondering if this is OK?
@Telesk1er
@Telesk1er Год назад
@@KHudd I have an 18 Canyon with the 2.8l Duramax with the 6speed and tow a 30’ 7400lb TT. Tows like a dream. I also have a 17’ 5000lb inclosed trailer. While towing my trans temp runs at 180° going 75-80mph. But that’s after I changed the Transmission fluid. Before I changed it used to run 230°-240°F going 65-60mph. Which is very high. My ATF specs say it can run at 280°F max but I didn’t like it being that high. If you’re concerned about high temp I recommend changing it. I did mine myself it was $110 and took about an hour
@joesantamaria2881
@joesantamaria2881 2 года назад
Thanks for this great video. I drive a 2018 TRD Off Road long bed and when I tow I'm always thinking it is struggling.
@silencesir1987
@silencesir1987 3 года назад
I have a v6 21 canyon at4 and tow a 3500lb trailer a few times a month and have no problems with it. Only thing that ever concerns me is the atf temp.it touches 170 degrees on long inclines and am considering a transmission cooler. Good thing is it did come with the trailer brake controller and my trailer has brakes.
@ashes2ashes863
@ashes2ashes863 2 года назад
170 is actually not bad at all.
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM 3 года назад
Great video
@getlosttoday4045
@getlosttoday4045 3 года назад
Happy Easter TK
@grimreaper3620
@grimreaper3620 3 года назад
I’d choose the canyon also. Happy Easter guys.👍🇨🇦
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Thanks! You too!
@anthonymurphy2540
@anthonymurphy2540 2 года назад
I was towing that trailer with a 4runnner, numbers added up but I did not feel comfortable with winding days so bought a tundra today with the 5.7 engine.
@000distructzero
@000distructzero Год назад
I agree with results even thou I have the Tacoma. I chose it for the reliability and resale reputation. The boat I tow is about 2k lbs. I'd feel comfortable towing something a bit heavier, a good sized pop up camper maybe, but not more.
@ajjacobs1338
@ajjacobs1338 3 года назад
Great video guys I love Toyota but I would most likely go with the canyon myself. Cheers from GA
@TheCarCrazyGuy
@TheCarCrazyGuy 3 года назад
My neighbor just purchased a travel trailer. He had a 2016 Tacoma Access Cab V6. After towing his trailer a few times, he sold his Tacoma and magically a used Tundra appeared. Need I say more.
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 3 года назад
Sadly, the Tundra probably even has a lower payload rating than the Canyon.
@CACressida
@CACressida 3 года назад
@@jimsomerville3924 1500-1700 pounds. More than the rado.
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 3 года назад
@@CACressida most of the payload rating stickers I've seen at the dealer and online for Tundra crew or extended cab 4x4s are 1200-14XX lbs.
@CACressida
@CACressida 3 года назад
@@jimsomerville3924 heaviest tundra per toyota has a 1530 payload. Lightest Tundra per Toyota has 1730 payload. Not sure what sticker you were looking at because 5 passengers would max out a payload according to what you seen. Doesnt make sense.
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 3 года назад
@@CACressida The specs on their website seem to not reflect the various configurations well and are not payloads that you will typically see on stickers of actual builds. And of course options add weight that come out of the max spec numbers. Most manufacturers seem to do this on their websites, but the Tundra's seem lower than most other fullsizes and often less than midsizes. Here's an example from Truck King: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0MBH_YVmBqI.html
@hyrum3149
@hyrum3149 3 года назад
I have an ‘18 Colorado diesel with 81,000. Absolutely no issues.
@diosantiago3407
@diosantiago3407 2 года назад
Thank you. Well done. Anything with more power will take it. And pull it. I'll take the Tacoma for reliability any day.
@kevinblock2307
@kevinblock2307 3 года назад
I agree with everything stated. I’d choose the Canyon too
@04tsxpower
@04tsxpower 3 года назад
Imagine that you agree🤔
@alyx2yonde301
@alyx2yonde301 3 года назад
Until your canyon suffers electrical issue a week or two lol
@04tsxpower
@04tsxpower 3 года назад
@@alyx2yonde301 followed by engine issues
@jeremysmith9868
@jeremysmith9868 3 года назад
I pull my travel trailer with the 2.8L Duramax powered Canyon, but I believe that they will not be selling that option in the near future. I really enjoy its ride quality. You didn't mention that the 2.8L Duramax powered Canyon tow package comes with the trailer brake controller, electronic sway control, and an engine brake to help control the trailer. And the fuel mileage is much better to boot. It does still need after-market tow mirrors though :(. I have seen some expensive bolt-on tow mirrors if you do not like the clip-on ones.
@pwrbugl07
@pwrbugl07 2 года назад
I have the 2.8 L Duramax in my Colorado and love it. It pulls my 23 ft Open Range very well on mid level mountains, but quite a strain on the steeper ones. I really like the new grille on the Tacoma, and hope that GMC and Chevy improve the facia on the 2023 midsize trucks. I heard no more diesels in the future for Canyon or Colorado, which sucks. Either my diesel truck I have now will go up in value...or down?
@jacobcounty
@jacobcounty 3 года назад
I absolutely agree, Canyon all the way. However, I personally just bought a 2021 Chevy Colorado z71 off-road edition with the heavy duty tow package. Including the trailer brake. This video was very helpful as I am currently researching what size camper I can truly tow with the new Colorado. Love your channel. Thank you. I would love it if you would do this exact thing again with my Colorado.
@barbarahajosch7208
@barbarahajosch7208 3 года назад
I have a 2018 colorado z71 with the same options as yours and I tow a rockwood geo pro 16bh dry 3200 gvwr 4300 . Put in an aftermarket brake controller and a weight distribution hitch with anti sway as it is a single axle trailer. No problems so far!! Got 14mpg last trip. check out Mario Worked on it channel on you tube. He is towing a 19ft geo pro with a 2021 colorado work truck and just did some suspension upgrades. Good luck in your search!!
@jacobcounty
@jacobcounty 3 года назад
@@barbarahajosch7208 thank you! Say, I tried looking up that channel and all I get to come up is super Mario Nintendo stuff. 😂
@barbarahajosch7208
@barbarahajosch7208 3 года назад
@@jacobcounty Try this link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7NtUmm3LXi0.html
@jacobcounty
@jacobcounty 3 года назад
@@barbarahajosch7208 that worked. Thank you
@barbarahajosch7208
@barbarahajosch7208 3 года назад
@@jacobcounty your very welcome!!
@shanehallowell5443
@shanehallowell5443 3 года назад
The Tacoma’s payload does suck but its more then capable of it but also you can buy a trailer break it comes pre- wired for a trailer break and they cost less then $100 depending on what you buy but people make Tacoma’s sound so incapable but in reality they can do a lot
@erniearruda8861
@erniearruda8861 3 года назад
I choose the canyon over the Tacoma due to interior size,comfortable seating position and heated steering and seats. Taco only gives heated bum and numbness
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 3 года назад
Great review! Looks like a great trailer for the Canyon, but that payload rating of the Taco may cause a typical use case to be over by a decent margin. Like you said, gotta be aware of the ratings.
@timflint25
@timflint25 Год назад
Isn't it crazy how bad the Tacoma's payload is?! It's basically the same as a car. A Maverick can hold roughly 1350 and a Ridgeline can hold 1550!
@skywalker2852
@skywalker2852 3 года назад
I would like an AT4 with a rear locker (not G80), but cabin space and tow rating still takes it in this comparison. Thanks for mentioning the mirrors, I was going to ask about that.
@richardradcliffe6047
@richardradcliffe6047 Год назад
I had been shopping for a new midsize truck, mainly to tow a nucamp tab@400 (GVWR = 3900 lbs). Taco and canyon were both on the list. I really wanted to like the taco, bit it drove so poorly compared to the canyon, I never bothered to look into its specs. Had no idea the payload on the taco was so low. That’s a huge difference. Glad I went with the canyon. Really happy with it so far.
@yes215
@yes215 Год назад
They're missing the Tacoma OTT Tune. I would seriously check out that tune. Look at the dyno charts once a Tacoma gets the OTT tune.
@Emperio-zc5zr
@Emperio-zc5zr 10 месяцев назад
@@yes215still has a big displacement on how small the engine is
@woodykeiko
@woodykeiko 3 года назад
Own a pickup truck for 10 years, then you'll see the "value story" of a Toyota over GM. According to Mike Sweers (Toyota engineer), they build their transfer cases to be 12 more durable than the competition (note: durable not the same as strength). That's just one example. But if you keep your truck for 300,000 Miles, I guarantee you the Toyota will be running better than any GM truck.
@andrewmoore4744
@andrewmoore4744 3 года назад
My 2011 chevy silverado 1500 5.3 Z71 has 271,*** miles on it on original engine trans and transfer case never been rebuilt and it works regularly plus the best part it's an American brand and was built in the USA Specifically Fort Wayne Indiana 💪 I'd rather spend my hard earned American dollar on a domestic branded truck built right here in my home country by my fellow union Brothers and sisters
@matthewgoedtel5998
@matthewgoedtel5998 3 года назад
@@andrewmoore4744 I currently have a 2500 Silverado at 190,000 and have had Toyotas before this. Not all GM trucks are US made. I've found a night and day difference in reliability. Toyota trucks are way more reliable.
@BrandonEht
@BrandonEht 3 года назад
@@andrewmoore4744 You are aware that Toyota builds way more cars in the US than GM does....right??
@andrewmoore4744
@andrewmoore4744 3 года назад
@@BrandonEht yes you are aware when you buy a new Toyota majority of your money goes overseas cause Toyota isn't domestic
@Cologne_Trooper
@Cologne_Trooper 3 года назад
@@andrewmoore4744 I don't care where my money goes as long as I'm spending it wisely. I have a 2006 Silverado and it has garbage reliability. Plus most GM vehicles are made in Mexico not the US.
@R.Nelson
@R.Nelson 3 года назад
Happy bunny 🐇 rabbit Day!!! Did he come around? Said he'd drop off my 6 banger 3 spd colomn truck at your place for me😜😜😃😄 Thanks again Steve and Howard
@Co1eTrain84
@Co1eTrain84 3 года назад
i've got a 2016 GMC Canyon All Terrain(older version of the AT4) and i love it. I tested out a Tacoma and a Ranger and went with the Canyon. just a better truck overall
@bucknutz2879
@bucknutz2879 3 года назад
I have a 2018 Canyon All Terrain. Pull my travel trailer with it. Love this truck.
@thomaslehmann5981
@thomaslehmann5981 3 года назад
I have a 16 Canyon also. Did you get the latest computer update for the transmission? If you haven't you should. Makes it a different truck.
@Alfredomakanas..0923
@Alfredomakanas..0923 Год назад
Good advice... thank you..👍🏽
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@richarde1355
@richarde1355 9 месяцев назад
The ideal truck, for me, would be to have an engine similar to the Duramax in the Tacoma. The best of both!
@Resistculturaldecline
@Resistculturaldecline 2 года назад
Tow rating are calculated with a minimum of frontal area on the trailer. Travel trailer at 5k+ with the frontal area of wind resistance will likely exceed the rating. But, going slow and easy can mitigate it some. And of course the faster you go, the worse.
@jadd6810
@jadd6810 3 года назад
Rockwood and FLagstaff are the exact same thing. A family down the street from us had the exact same trailer as us, a 2019 Rockwood 2104s. Which is very similar the what your were towing which was a Rockwood 2109s. The 2104s is a little taller and a little heavier. Anyway they started out towing it with a Taco and very shortly upgraded to a Tundra. We lived in the Sierra Nevadas at 4500+ ft elevation and I know there were some steep mountain climbs to 7300 feet that made our F150 work a bit, I can only imagine what the poor little Toyota was doing. We've now towed our trailer halfway across the country up and over 8400 ft elevation through wyoming and have had to deal with 28mph crosswinds through Nebraska even with a 4pt sway control hitch, it sucked but we were able to deal with it. No way would I want to experience that in a midsized truck. Weekend trips 1-2 hours away sure.
@jesserevilla992
@jesserevilla992 2 года назад
Great review; have a full size halfton here in Miami, Fla. But have considered going to midsize because fits in garage but tow a 19ft TT .. I'm not caught between GM or Ford Ranger ? Love Toyota, wife has Lexus and my son has Scion XB.. I'v owned 4 Runner. Your the only ones doing this other then your pals at TLF.. But they you show actual Travel Trailers.
@drogynturalyon9914
@drogynturalyon9914 2 года назад
I have towed Bigger and heavier trailers than this with a 2015 Canyon SLT , the canyon is an awesome vehicle I love mine it just hit 85k miles!
@thomaslehmann5981
@thomaslehmann5981 2 года назад
2016 canyon here. Love it
@inspector13jjf
@inspector13jjf 4 месяца назад
A couple things to mention about the Tacoma. One is that it makes all of it's power over 4k rpm, which isn't great for towing. Also with it's composite bed it is light in the back end and is overall a slightly lighter truck than the Canyon AT4. One last thing I was able to get the 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road premium for $45k brand new. I don't know if Taco prices are higher in Canada compared to what they are in the US but mine came with wireless phone charging, heated leather seats, moonroof, crawl control, multi-terrain select and 360 cameras.
@freefalling120
@freefalling120 3 года назад
Fair comparison. Been towing a 3600 # (dry) trailer with my 2020 Tacoma without any issues but would like a little more torque on grades. However I love my Tacoma and use it for off roading as well and it does have wireless charging so it’s the truck for me. The only gripe I have with Toyota is they no longer include a transmission cooler with tow package.
@WhitelightningOG
@WhitelightningOG 2 года назад
The Tacoma does come with a transmission cooler with a v6 and the standard tow package. You're referring to the Tundra.
@freefalling120
@freefalling120 2 года назад
@@WhitelightningOG i have a2020 Tacoma w/tow package and it doesn’t have tran cooler. Has an engine oil and power steering cooler but not a transmission cooler.
@WhitelightningOG
@WhitelightningOG 2 года назад
@@freefalling120 you can find part numbers for a transmission fluid cooler all over, so why would it not be on your truck but on mine?
@freefalling120
@freefalling120 2 года назад
I spoke with the service manager where i bought my truck and he confirmed as well. Don’t know why mine wouldn’t but yours does. What year is your Tacoma?
@WhitelightningOG
@WhitelightningOG 2 года назад
@@freefalling120 it's a 2021, but I may have been given bad information, I'll need to double check after hearing this, the Toyota website spec sheet says it does as well?
@Rossi46Moore
@Rossi46Moore 2 года назад
It would be really interesting to hear the opinions if it was possible to put the Hilux in this exact test. Even the older 3.0 D4D.
@IPGAuto
@IPGAuto 2 года назад
In terms of what's first two last in mid-size: Tacoma, Frontier, Colorado/Canyon, Ranger. Tacoma and Frontier lead in terms of reliability, no questions asked.
@TC-hs5wy
@TC-hs5wy 2 года назад
I wonder what the real world fuel Mileage is between a V6 Canyon vs 5.3 sierra. It may just be worth it to get the sierra w more power minus a mpg or so.
@warrenbarnes9653
@warrenbarnes9653 3 года назад
Great comparison, Guys. Now I’d like to see you do the same thing with the Ranger, Ridgeline and new Frontier. That trailer is exactly the type of thing I’d tow with a midsize truck. I’d also like you to show me how a crossover would do, say a Highlander with a 5,000 lb. tow package. I’m asking myself whether I really need to trade in my Highlander for a mid size pickup, in order to tow a small travel trailer. Thanks.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
Great suggestion!
@ChrisXif1
@ChrisXif1 3 года назад
An important factor in towing is the wheelbase of the tow vehicle (longer is better) which is where crossovers like the Highlander tend to be not as good for towing, particularly at their limit, like this trailer would be. It can do it, but you will find it not as confident a towing experience as a longer wheelbased tow vehicle.
@Justforrefreshments
@Justforrefreshments 3 месяца назад
Love my 2015 Canyon!
@maynardholmes8870
@maynardholmes8870 3 года назад
I just got a ranger six tow package included trying to find the right rig can you test the passport 2400 or 2600 next the weight is light mid size truck capable just not sure on the length and ride quality
@robertchato3040
@robertchato3040 3 года назад
As someone who has had both a Canyon and a Tacoma. In the long run Tacoma will out last the Canyon. At 100k I had to replace the transmission on the Canyon. On my Tacoma I went 250k before I had to replace the transmission. I’m staying w the Tacoma
@great0789
@great0789 3 года назад
I already knew what the answer would be. I have a 18" Z71 Colorado and it has been nothing short of amazing for my R-pod 193 Bunk house with a slide. I have the 4 point Equalizer hitch and that thing is amazing as well.
@cbruno12180
@cbruno12180 3 года назад
These mid size trucks are really starting to shine as time goes on especially the zr2 for Chevy that model is worth its weight in gold outstanding truck for the price and the 3.6 v6 is best in class power and smooth
@huckleberry8079
@huckleberry8079 2 года назад
How is an unreliable truck worth anything?
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 2 года назад
The zr2 is a pretty sick truck.
@joshuaslate5828
@joshuaslate5828 2 года назад
@@huckleberry8079 agreed. Garbage Motors Corporation.
@ashes2ashes863
@ashes2ashes863 2 года назад
@@huckleberry8079 Colorado and canyon are constantly best in class. The Tecumseh's arent even liked buy Toyota loyalists anymore. Their comfort sucks and the 3.5 cant hang with the 3.6 GM v6. The Toyota also has a lousy trans that downshifts to make up for its lame braking.
@huckleberry8079
@huckleberry8079 2 года назад
@@ashes2ashes863 Your opinion sucks too just like the Chevy reliability. I will never own another GM product and none of my family members will as well. All my sons now own Tundras and Tacomas. Reliability is everything in a vehicle. We only own Toyota, nothing else. Gm will eventually go out of business due to making junk vehicles while Toyota just gets better every year.
@DinorwicSongwriter
@DinorwicSongwriter Год назад
I have a 22 Tacoma off road and my work truck is a 22 F-150. The F-150 gets better gas mileage fully loaded than my Tacoma does empty.
@kevinkeenan8816
@kevinkeenan8816 2 года назад
You are located in the city of kawartha lakes speed limit is only 80 k I know you are trying for a larger US market but keep it real I enjoy your reviews
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM 3 года назад
I’m a Tacoma fan but that new Canyon AT4 is right on. My pick here
@dc8782
@dc8782 3 года назад
GM did something right with these new little trucks. Would love to see a 200,000km long term review of both
@befreud
@befreud 3 года назад
Exactly, I can't trust GM, but I know Toyota's reliability...
@MBB563
@MBB563 2 года назад
@@befreud it's a myth toyota is better .....read up, like read real numbers and data on reliability and not your uncles 90's bad experience with GM when you were a child.
@befreud
@befreud 2 года назад
@@MBB563 I had a 2010 chevy aveo that died after 2 years. I will never buy another GM again. It's not my uncles story, it's my personal experience. When a 2003 Toyota lasted 200k miles longer (still running btw) I'm gonna go with Toyota...
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 2 года назад
@@befreud well when you can't tow or haul just about anything in the truck, I'd expect it to last a while
@chucksneed7230
@chucksneed7230 Год назад
@@MBB563 lol GM is bottom of the barrel in every yearly ranking for reliability
@jlen82
@jlen82 3 года назад
GMC for sure! Happy Easter!
@Mike-cu6gk
@Mike-cu6gk Год назад
I had leased a 2020 Ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.7 Hemi never used it to tow anything since I don’t own a boat or a camper it was just a Mall Crawler. My lease was up this year and I purchased a 2023 Tacoma V6 4x4, I like the fact of having a pickup truck especially for going to the beach and doing some camping. I miss the Ram’s interior space but that’s all, the Ram was getting 14-15mpg and the Taco is getting 18-19mpg around town. For those who are about to say it was a dumb decision, I want to disclose that a few months before the lease was up I started to smell antifreeze when I parked the Ram and my coolant reservoir was always low dealership couldn’t find any leaks well it was going somewhere, so with that in mind I thought I should get rid of it. Hopefully this year I can get a jet ski and I’m sure the Taco can tow it with no problem.
@mojo2131
@mojo2131 Год назад
My 2018 F450 in tow mode would drag out the gears just like the Toyota so when hauling I would use manual mode.
@cmc9823
@cmc9823 Год назад
The Tacoma has wireless charging standard on the TRD OR package, as far back as 2016, which is the truck you should have been comparing here.. And a black headliner.
@r.j.2571
@r.j.2571 3 года назад
The 4 door Tacoma and the Flagstaff 21FBRS is the exact combination that I attempted to combine, huge mistake. The Tacoma is a good truck, but not for towing this trailer. For me, it wasn't so much the weight (still somewhat of an issue) of the 21FBRS, it was the sailboat 8 feet front end that I was pulling down the road with full sail in the upright position. The Tacoma did ok on flat ground, but when my wife and I took it to the mountains of Tennessee, forget it. We pulled in 4th gear all the way, until the mountains, and then came the constant 4th to 3rd gear just to try to maintain 55 mph. When we arrived at our destination, I noticed the exhaust pipe turned a reddish brown. I'm not knocking the Tacoma, it's just not designed for this application. If interested (for maybe a small cargo trailer), it does however come with a connection point for add on brake controller, just buy the controller and the pigtail. I would have kept my Tacoma if I didn't like RV'ing so much, so I traded it for a 2017 Ford F150 3.5 liter Ecoboost (10 speed) and never looked back. My family is GM, I've owned plenty of GM trucks (GMC and Chevrolet) that always seemed to be attracted to the dealer's service center, like a magnet. I couldn't keep them out of it, two with issues (like transmission, electronics, etc.) that couldn't be repaired, but GM was aware of the issues. The GM discount wasn't worth it to me anymore. My Ford has been to the shop one time for a fog light lense that cracked with no road damage. I never thought I would like a Ford truck over my past GM trucks, but proof is in the pudding. I originally purchased the Tacoma because of the problems I had with my GM trucks, I was done, over it. Except for the Tacoma not being a good travel trailer tow vehicle, it also had no issues. I've got better things to do like camping other than sitting in a dealership hoping your truck will be repaired. Bottom line, if you own a Tacoma (still a great truck), do not attempt to buy one of these trailers or anything like it if you intend on keeping your Tacoma. Don't listen to the Toyota dealership, that was a mistake too. Buy a pop-up or an Aliner, not an 8 feet wide trailer. By the way, love the Truck King reviews, especially with the Jeep Wrangler (I own one and love it). Take care.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 года назад
All good info. You also nailed a necessary fact for towing - where are you towing? If mountains are a regular thing for you - consider heavier, stronger and maybe diesel.
@georgewilliamssr5230
@georgewilliamssr5230 3 года назад
I have a 2014 4x4 Toco with the tow package. Air bags on the back suspension. Weight distribution hitch and sway bar. I work in the mountains of the Pacific Northwest. I tow a GoPro 19TH. Dry weight just under 3,000 lbs. So far so good. I have no complaints.
@robertcolon
@robertcolon 3 года назад
Thanks for the information. We started with a lightweight popup that a Rav4 can tow it. However, we could travel further and we bought a 2020 Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 to make our trips out of state in the future. We will consider to buy in the future a lightweight trailer like a RPOD or JayFlight less than 3,500 pounds. We will stick with the popup, because the nature of our jobs our time is limited now.
@georgewilliamssr5230
@georgewilliamssr5230 3 года назад
@@robertcolon I shopped for 3 years looking at and talking with owners of all kinds of trailers. I would not recommend any of the Jay Flights. All the ones I looked at were damaged upon delivery to the dealers. All the owners of RPods said they all started leaking and breaking down in less than a year. I finally bought a Forest River GeoPro 19 Toy Hauler. Construction wise was what I could afford and still stay light weight. Otherwise I would have bought a Lance.
@robertcolon
@robertcolon 3 года назад
@@georgewilliamssr5230 Thank you for the information. Actually, this is a long term goal, but I will consider it. Hope that these companies will improve their construction.
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