Tracking Device Found in Customer's Car! 

Thanks for the great info! Never even thought about this prior to your first video. See, this is why FAB Automotive is so awesome; not only do you provide awesome detailing videos, but you also provide insightful info on other aspects of automotive ownership! Cheers brother to another great video!

There needs to be a permanent sticker or some notification to the driver that this vehicle is tracked. Data collection on a person's movements is potentially very serious

❤omg , my car is putting me threw (hell) and somedays it wont start up,😢 well that small little voice in my head (higher power ) told me to opened the side panel on my driver's side the steering wheel, and boom !!! The same thing u just posted was blinking red and green. So I looked it up and found this video xoxo thank u so much and my god bless you n your family.... Have a very blessed day XO 😊

This is disgraceful! Thank you for your efforts in identifying this whole thing and bringing it to the attention of all of us… 👍👏✊

Several years back there was a disgruntled fired employee at a dealership who still had access to the dealer system, and he went in and disabled the starter on all the customers' cars who had these tracking devices. More than 100 cars total.

I know this video is a few years old, but I just wanted to let you know. The way they wired it, it was only for ignition on power. In order for it to be a starter kill, they would cut the wire, and 2 wires from the tracker would go to the splits. One to one side, one to the other. Also, according to that schematic, if they used that blue wire with a white stripe, it would cut the ignition power.

A lot of dealers put these on every vehicle they sell and they make you pay for it, usually $400 or more on the addendum sticker. Mine is called KAHU. They market it as a theft recovery device or "if you forgot where you parked" like it's for your benefit. You CAN pay a fee and be able to track the vehicle yourself but it's mostly for the bank.

Thanks for this video. Your explanation was really clear on where it was and just having an awareness of it. I was looking this up after finding an "accessory" charge on the bill and asked what it was about. And it's the Kahuapp tracking device.

I agree..this is weird. I totally understand both sides but it seems like a breech of privacy. Buyers should be made aware. Even if you have nothing to hide it is just plain weird. Thanks for the great video.

I know why it bothers you, it is an invasion of your privacy!

They sell you your car, and then make money from your insurance company. Disgusting.

Usually used commercial trucks have gps tracking fitted. They do this to manage their fleet with real-time GPS tracking, routing, speeding control and maintenance. I bought one before and found the stuff hidden, just like the one you shown. I double wrapped it with foil to stop it beeping over 65 mph.

this is good to know. I was told by a neighbor i have one on my recently bought used car. it bothers me that someone feels this is the only way for them to know for sure if im going to make my payment but they are going to be extremely bored with me, cuz i don't drive it much or far... thanks for the video

Thank you! I just realized my car definitely has a tracking device. I got the same 20 second beep going on.

This is why bicycle and classic vehicles sales are through the roof.

Man, I cant count how many of these we have encountered with a local small dealership. They put them in all there cars and if they don't make payment the can cut the power to ignition. Customer will tow there car in no start. We check and find this. Lol

I find it extremely interesting, thank you! Subscribed.

I was telling my neighbor about this video and said the same thing about if my had one whoever was monitoring my movements they would be very bored lol. The only good thing is if you get into a situation where you WANT someone to find you, say you get into an accident. Enjoyed the video 👍✌️🇺🇸

Got one on my car. Haven't seen it yet but know its there because when I bought the car made sure not to install on star on it then took it into dealer for repairs and they claimed the cars computer went bad. So they could put one on my car. They never told me, never explained or anything, I learned about it when I was emailed and it mentioned on star. Think I have a case for the all the anguish, pain and suffering ? added: And there is nothing owed on the car, so what reason did they have to put a gps on my car ? Have a good idea and it has nothing to do with crime. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Glad you are tell us about this makes me want to check my car.

Bravo man !!! Appreciate the heads up

White wire from the tracker is ignition sense. In order to install starter disable you have to cut the starter wire and connect a relay to it. Then use the green wire on the tracker to use the command to disable.

Great video! Very cool! Thank you!

Thanks bro!! I found it in my car. I've removed it! Wow, thanks again. I just feel that all of our freedom/privacy has been stripped from us despite the constitution! Crazy!!

Found your video because I found one of the "Apex" company GPS modules on my 2017 used RAM3500. Found this on the dealership lot when I was buying it and they tried to charge me over $3000 for it on the deal documents! Obviously that didn't happen because no way in hell I'm paying that much for a GPS. I heard you say you had one on your RAM and have a vid of that. Will be watching that one next and I pray to God you have a "how to remove" on that vid for the RAM. I want this POS out of there. I own the truck outright. Thanks for posting this!

👍👍👍 Great info. Thank you

Just pulled one off my truck. Bought it from a used lot where they were legit with me and affirmed there was when I asked as part of buying (I've had a vehicle stolen, so cool, fine by me). For most of the payment term I had a Bluetooth OBD dongle plugged in before I removed it for an insurance dongle. Paid the truck off months ago, insurance asked for their dongle back and during the brief period while nothing was plugged in I noticed a green light flashing down to the floor board from behind the dash. Cleaner install than what you showed... Black and red tapped into wires going to OBD, green wire going into a relay wired between the cut white/blue. Had to pop the lower dash off to get high enough in the dash to pull it free of the two-sided sticky Velcro and to get my Klein's up to snip off a couple zip ties. Bell-capped the white/blue on the relay sides of those joins. Truck starts so mission accomplished. ...now I just need to finish up my RaspberryPi based cellular gps tracker and get it installed so I can sleep at night again...

Rear bumper is a common hiding place also.

Great video brian i found one from time to time

Thank you so much for the info. Have dealt with this bs. No shortage of psychos harassing people.

It is a BIG dealer come on to sell you a vehicle with a LoJack tracker on it. People aren't paying attention and just go along with it. In MANY cases, that thing kills the battery in a few days without use. The dealers aren't picking up on what is draining the battery and just throw in a new one.

Thanks for the good info... Agreed 👍

They track and report info to insurance companies who then decide how much they'll rip you off.

This person had time to set that up. The beeping kind of defeats the purpose of covertly tracking a vehicle. A normal person shouldn't be able to track you through your phone unless its compromised, usually with physical access. If you find a device like this don't call your bank, call the cops. There are some really deviant individuals in our world , everyone be safe.

Sounds like a horror film spoof: "The draw is coming from INSIDE THE CAR!!!"

Thanks for the info!!

WOW.. thanks for the video, I found one of these on our Ford Edge today.. we bought this car from a used dealer a couple of years ago and today my wife noticed a wire hanging down. I took a look and found a Device that looked aftermarket and with a MEID number on the part I suspected a tracking device or a cellular add on.. Not even sure if the used car dealer did this or someone else before that but I am damn sure going to call them about it. Mine was also wired into the OBDII port but they didn't even have the sense to use T-taps, just some wire stripped and black tap. SMH.

I repoed for a few years. And dealers put them on while a car is being paid for. Once its paid off the tracker is connection is broke. The tracker is basically no longer any good. They are temporary.

Awesome video.I agree with you 400%

I found a tracking device a a RV that I recently bought. looks a bit different than the one in the video. has the word stargard on the label. it was taped into the wires near the obd port. check any type of vehicle.

My moms car is locked as soon as we get home I check all of the doors. And every morning the doors are unlocked. And I went to the gas station and got pop,.....the girl told me she got a phone call telling her to call the police because their was a fight in the parking lot? She said did you see anything,.... I said the only person their was the guy that just left? So I guess who ever made the call can hear in your car while you drive down the road,....I told my mom its 10pm you can't go to someones house at night,...... a few minutes later we were at the gas station and this happened. I know there is a tracking device,.......I saw people standing there looking at their phones looking up and down the street before. I want the trespassing to stop. I consider it worse than tapping a telephone. Weather its a tracking device or a or a listening device its just wrong. It's the same thing as using a video camera to look up womens dress's,...its a violation. I have looked I found a part of the grill broken,......looked around for device's,... but no luck yet. Is there a place that can find these tracking device's.

aaaaand this is why I like older vehicles, especially made before 1981

Please show how to remove it. That is the main point when it is not authorized.

Very informative 👍

Nice find.

I'm a different person... If you're tracking me they're going to find a lot of excitement out of me 😂

What tracking device do you recommend? I put one on my 2008 Ford Escape, I recently sold it with the tracking. I inherited a Jaguar S Type and want to put a tracking device on it, but want one that works like my old one, cuts engine, GPS, microphone, etc. But the problem that I have with my old one was that it worked only via text messages, don't like that part. Is there one that works via an app, that you can wire the device to cut engine, and all the other things?

The dealership I worked at always informed the customers about the GPS tracker. It was part of getting approved for the loan. We never rigged the starter disable feature.

Any recommendations for a GPS tracking device that actually works for a Turo care, so I can see the speed and real time location of car etc. Thanks. Also to bad I cant unlocked the car remotely using a device so customr can get the key from inside that car rather then hiding it underneith the vehicle in magnetic key holder. Hope I can figure it out. Great video , down to earth and well presented.

Do you know if you kill power to this will fit affect the vehicles ability to start? I bought a used truck, it definitely should not be on there. Mine has red, black and green wire. Is green output and can only shutdown ignition or fuel if powered up?

They used to install them at the dealership I work at, for another used car lot they owned. A lot of those cars do get repossessed.

Any tips for hunting for these? Bought an old fleet truck and now I'm paranoid.

So this is being driven by Finance Company's? It is illegal to do this without the owners knowledge. Very unsafe to be remotely shutting down someones ability to start their car. Get your own financing and make the seller sign an affidavit that there are no tracking devices on the car. Then sue their pants off if you find one.

From a criminal's purpose of using a tracker could be to let them know when you are away from home so they could be robbing you while you aren't there. They could also steal things from your car. Someone switched out my brand new battery with an old one. It was very noticeable with the old one being dirty and not the same brand. I had to buy another battery in the same week. I went through a series of many things disappearing from car. I returned back to car after being in movie theater or mall finding rubber around driver door window removed. Someone had been in my car. I never could catch them in the act. I just got rid of car and bought another cash car. My apartment was broken into three times. I had cameras but power was shut off first. Criminals are very smart. Police didn't help at all.

Hey FAB, thanks for another really interesting video. Did you consult with the customer whether they knew that it existed or not? And if so, what was their reaction?

One thing... these devices have to be registered. That said you can catch the s.o.b. if you got the bucks to get a warrant..

do they all beep like that? or are some silent ?

All GPS systems can track your vehicle just as the bank can try to activate your phone to track you when you receive a message that asks you to allow you to share your location.

I just purchased a vehicle from a dealer. (Cash) Lojack was a $400 add on already installed, but I refused it. While we were doing the paperwork, they took the vehicle to the service department to wash it. I assumed they also removed the device. Now I’ll be doing some checking to see if it’s still there.

I have one at the moment. Exactly the same device. How do i get rid of it

This is a great video. So banks install these tracking devices on vehicles to repossess if the buyer defaults on payments??

I just found out today that I have one on my car but I’m not sure if my lender placed it there as I bought my car privately and the lender had me put the car under my name. This seems very sketchy.

It isn't a starter kill unless the blue/white wire was actually cut. It was more than likely just a starter sense wire, or an improperly connected device. I'm not even convinced that was a tracker, not without a view of it's label.

That’s crazy bro

What should I look for in a 2011 grand cherokee

Where can I make appointment to bring my car in? Not sure which location.

Nice

Good man

Penske, Ryder etc. have them in too Sometimes taken out... sometimes not. 😮

Hi. I have a 2014 Ford Fusion with a parasitic draw. I actually found one of these gps trackers (not for me as the car has no loans). Hot wire was into the fuse box under the hood and grounded. Nothing else wired to it. I unhooked it and the car wouldnt start. Re installed it and it started. I looked inside under the steering column and by the interior fuse box, under the hood by the starter and by fuel pump. I literally cant find anything else connecting this thing or another tracker/disable unit. Any advice? My teenage daughter drives this car and I definitely dont want a tracker on it that I dont know about. The car dies if not driven every couple days. Battery is new and was re tested in case of a dead cell. Alternator is good. Factory radio, etc. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

hello from england..i was changing a pollen filter i had to take out the glove box and there is a tracking device there..

Hey man just to be clear who have the control of that GPS Module? I mean who can see, track where we are going ?

Hey I found one of these on my 05 ford focus, was owned by my grandparents for several years then handed down, it has a relay and everything, my question is how do I remove it, it has been in there for probably 5-6 years, haven’t heard a beep but it’s blinking red and green,

Found one in my car, I just unplugged it.. what could go wrong when unplugging it?

What kind of shop would I take my car to to have the bugs detected and taken out because my bug detector and GPS detectors are going crazy

Have one of these on my car can't figure out how to remove it. It is attached directly to the battery.

I bought a c6 corvette from The auction and I found same exact tracker under the car. Wyd Imma cut the wires but was wondering if i could use it to my advantage

I bought an old, but runs good, 2003 jaguar at the auction and saw a loose square little box with a red light in the globe compartment. Is says lojack. I guess I'll start investigating what's going on. I was wondering if they could do that to retrieve the car, with a spare key, after being sold, but I don't think so. Now the fact that it can leave me stranded is concerning

How can I take it out??? I buyed an used car from USA and I guess old company left it there, a few weeks ago I had to see whats wrong with my batery, cuz my car didnt turn on and this was the problem

This is scary as I like to go to the desert and explore sometimes there is no phone service. There needs to be a law that a dealer or vehicle sales company must inform customers there is a tracker on the vehicle, and that trackers can not disable a vehicle and can only be used to locate the car if there's a breach of contract. Thanks for sharing. Makes me want to go look under my dash now that my car is paid off, what happens if it's disabled when I'm out in the desert exploring? Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya

I want to buy a used car, paying cash. The dealer gave me a quote with _"Kahu included"_ I don't want Kahu since I pay cash, not finance. I told them I don't want Kahu, but when they gave me another lower price, do some maths, I think the cost of that Kahu is still in there. Thanks for the video, if I go buy the car, I now know where to check if they still got kahu installed in it.

Maybe it was a police bate car at some point. And they never took the tracking system out..There once was a TV show called Bate car.. The police would put a car on the street for people to steel than track it...

Wow man, that’s crazy and interesting at the same time. Now I’m going to be under the dashboard of my car for the next couple of days. I didn’t notice any weird rouge wires when I hardwired my dash camera into the fuse box which I think is good.

How do you remove it? From the looks of mine it isnt tapped into any wires

I believe i have a 2001 gmc Sierra z71 that has a gps somewhere under the dash. Where would you ck ?

So I recently purchased a car from a guy and it had this exact tracking device on it. But whenever the battery was connected it just screamed very loud so I ended up taking it out, but now my OB2 plugin doesn't work anymore. do you know how to fix this plug in?

Question...will these type of tracking devices always have the beeping?

Very interesting this. Is it the banks that order the dealership to put them on without the buyer have a clue of it? My stepfather had one installed on his work truck by the company he worked for. But he where aware of it though. As if you have a company car at home for free to take you to where you work. They have to have a drivers journal to send it in to they who handles the taxes. So this where a big help as the company he worked for got it sended to them digital. Then it's not popular by the workers that takes advantage of haveing a company car and use them a lot for personal uses LOL. Also it's a safety thing if it gets stolen. Now it where not hidden as it where placed in the corner of the windshield.

I have checked my cars for this device, and we don't have any mounted. Both our cars was paid for in cash and never had a lean or loan on them, so there was no need for a tracker. We also live in a place where car thefts are very rare, and if somethings happen the police will mostly know who to look at for this crime. We had a car broken into some years ago, and they did some damage trying to get out my after market stereosystem, but we actually got it back in a few days when the police paid the guy av visit and it was sittng on his kitchen cupboard. The damage of the break in ended up costing more than the stereo, so the fool paid it tree times over.

I have a 2003 Mercedes-Benz sports coupe E-class 320 how do I find the LoJack in this car GPS system located in there somewhere

Would a tracker cause a battery to drain after not being started after a couple days

Is there a way to connect to it?

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Take it off and put it in the microwave then put it back on.. No problem if their tracker burns out not your problem. Buy a used car and find one and you paided cash. They wire these on cars but when your car is paid off they don't remove them and later in a few cases the car is disabled by the device because of it getting a signal from some random device as you are driving on the freeway and your car is hit and totaled and you may never know. When i first heard of these i worked at a wreaking yard and started looking and found a number of cars with them. My boss found the company that makes them and called them and the company for a small fee put them back in service and he installed them on his towtrucks, so he could track them and the employees in them. in another case, a dealer fired an employee that installed these trackers. the employee had logged every one he had installed for years and used the disable every car within a hour time. Period. Needless to say, but the tow company in town was tied up with business that day.

I think this is the one that also can disconnect starter so it wont start if dealer send command to car

The one on my truck had an OBD2 passthrough connector and was placed behind the instrument cluster

Like Papasmurf said,,,,,a lot of dealers put them in. Finance companies, and even previous owners have them installed also. That way they can find their property because it is still theirs until you pay for it. Personal use it can help you or preferably police find your stolen property. Every rental I have ever used had them in them as well. It is just something you never really think about. but it is a small form of protection

Where can I go here in Michigan? Every garage I call say they can't help me. I drive a 2006 Cadillac DTS. Need Help.

How do I gain access to the tracker?

Where are you guys located? I need something to help protect my safety. Do you have something that can cut off a tracker? I have been followed by an ex who has sent other people in his gang organization to try and kill me. I've had to move multiple times. Anything you'd recommend for protection for my phone and my vehicle. Anything helps. Thanks in advance!