@@@enlightenedmcgee We can only hope. Unfortunately their are people that absolutely don't recognize what they do, or say that is negative, and need a harsh reality hit. I agree time has passed now, hopefully she grew
I lived in an area populated with Julies and “Karen’s” and their families. In 2019 my son graduated from high school alongside active members of the KKK and a young man whose first and middle names are “Nathan Bedford Forrest”. (If you don’t recognize that name he’s the founder of the Klan.) My neurodiverse, lgbtq+ family fit right in. (Sarc) It was a nightmare.
I love how Julie talked so much crap, and made it clear how she didn't care who she offended. When Pepper called her on it, at the party, however, she was so upset and said Pepper was wrong. Pepper hit the nail on the head: "you can dish it, but you can't take it". Ugh, and then Julie's fake ass tears and meltdown when she got home. What a waste of a person! Disgusting! 😡
I wasn’t sold on her being completely a narcissist until I saw the fake breakdown at the end. Emotionally manipulating her family to get out of well deserved criticism.
Yes they do and they're actually much nicer then the other family. I am straight but I don't have any problem with lesbian actually they're very nice and respectful not like the other family
@Wolf4077 no one came out of a swamp, bring back your lil ego on earth and get some therapy, your parents did a shit job at raising you and your life is so boring that you spend your time showing how homophobic you are to the world! You know it doesn't make you cool kido. Grow up
Being anti-social, narcissistic, self-centred and stupid at the same time makes it really deadly combination. But honestlly, that whole family is screwed.Big respect for Pepper that she sis not punch her in her face.
I commend Julie on her realization that her behavior needed change. You can visually see the change as it is happening inside her. You can see that she is becoming aware of her ridiculous behavior and by the end of the episode had prompted her family to change their behavior. This episode brought me to tears!
I think she was missing peppa point when she had the party she was trying to show her not all Mexicans or people with disabilities are normal like everyone else it's not a bad thing julie totally missed the point
@@prettymartin7140 bs pepper was proving her point, her opinion mattered more than julies, and only way she could do that was with group mentality, at least julie had the balls to stand by what she believed in regardless of how uncomfortable that situation was. I dont like the woman but that was a nasty thing to do just to prove a point and only showed how weak pepper was, she couldnt convince her otherwise with words or kindness so she basically shame her into submission. Bloody disgusting!!
WelshWitch THATS not true. Julie went to San Diego. San Diego is not a small town and is very diverse. Going to the party of a lesbian woman in San Diego with the views that Julie has will obviously not be very fun for you
@@Yolandae662 my husband is from san diego im well aware of its diversity, ive also had great fun at parties held by lesbian women so im afraid i dont see the point your trying to make!! If you really watched this you would see that im correct in my assumption the way this was handled was awful, now it may have been a production thing to make it more 'watchable' but whatever the reason, this was done spitefully. sorry if you dont agree!!
this isn't about a gay family and a straight family... this is about a happy, loving, balanced family, and a family that is hateful to others and each other.
Exactly. Because that family has so many other problems. That daughters seem to hate each other. The father truly treats his daughters terribly all on the pretense of not being like his father.
So, I'm in NO WAY condoning Julie's beliefs, BUT, I do believe this episode was taped/aired back in the EARLY 2000's (hence the "partners" & not "wife" status). Back then, there WERE A LOT more people with Julie's views than what we have today... BUT BEFORE YOU BASH MY COMMENT, I am in NO WAY saying that makes it ok!! People like that make me sick, and the fact Julie & her husband are teaching their KIDS that's ok &/or funny is just gross.
There's plenty of racist, white, backwoods small town jackasses who were raised by toxic alcoholics out that way to this day. But yeah, don't judge the entire state.
Pepper held herself together so well considering she had a hateful, homophobic, bigot of a woman stay in her home. This was a tough one to watch. I hope somewhere, in this woman’s horrible mind, she took something positive away from this experience. The world has enough vile people in it.
Pepper is a SAINT for being able to deal with her! When Julie said ‘there’s more people like me out there’ I would of replied ‘ya that’s the scary part’ what a horrible human being
how does she verbally attack this poor woman everyday, then go home and say "i was like a hostage it was awful" omg. people like here need to be on medication
I know this is old but I was saddened to hear of Pepper's passing. She seemed to be a nice, caring, empathetic human being. I hope the family are doing well. Reading about them it seems they were truly inlove💔😔
I have no idea how Pepper dealt with Julie for an entire week. I would have had to ask her to leave and quit the show. I couldn’t deal with that in my house.
“What if I’m a monster? What if my family doesn’t want me to come home?” Glad she finally asks herself these questions! She’s so terrible she really needed that reality check.
"Id die before I'd eat leftovers" yes because you SOOOO upper class Julie 😂 Then the husband trying to rile things up with his remarks to the daughters about "ask her what her husband does" "ask her what her husbands name is" I REALLY wanted to smack that smirk off his face. Too bad Abasi couldn't have gotten Julie instead of the God warrior. Now THAT would have been fun 😂
She's still a low rent loser, ignorant and lame! She also has an arrogance that she hasn't/could not have ever come close to earning or deserving... Living in Central Florida, I know many Mexicans that work in orange Groves and Ferneries... they have pride, respect, they're clean the clothes are nice , they feed their families and take pride in their cars. They're always clean as well as your homes and clothes. I say this, really, because they don't like to take anything from the government. They work hard and long hours make a lot of money doing that work that they do and they'll spend it. Anyway just my observation ever many years having many of them work for me and everything else
I would love for Julie and her husbands money to be half for them to get counselling for the years of therapy they desperately need and the. Other half to be given to charity
I wouldn't donate it to charity id use it to help people though. People donated MILLIONS to charities in Australia for the bush fires which destroyed lives and homes, and they kept it. There's news reports about it
Julie’s a textbook narcissist. The way she desperately tried to rewrite what happened after being confronted over her ignorant views, putting all the blame on Pepper for “bringing up what she said” when she broached the topic of their disagreements completely unprompted. Claimed Pepper wasn’t listening whenever she pointed out that was what she was doing, and then when she did get the opportunity to speak, just repeated herself over and over until Pepper got exhausted. Picking fights and acting bewildered when anyone bites back. Must be a nightmare for her daughters.
@@kathymyers7279 I'm gay or whatever, and I want people to not even look at me, I'm happy with my family, I could care less on anyone else's opinions on me as long as they're not effecting my life. So shove your gold star (:
@@kathymyers7279 Particularly I just want to exist without suffering prejudice, bullying, getting weird stares, not being able to donate blood on my country (Brazil), eventual death threats... But a gold star would be cool too!
Everyones getting offended by julie's 'beliefs' but she just seems so unintelligent i cant take her seriously 😂😂 i feel like calling her karen but thatd be insulting to even karens
as a gay person i immediately stopped getting offended as soon as she asked why ‘don’t homeless people just get a job’....why get offended over someone whose so stupid.
Ikr, I had suspicion she was just an idiot. But her little breakdown at the end on the car ride when she believed her family would no long love her proved it for me. She's just an ignorant moron masquerading as "tough"
As of 2021.... Pepper passed away around 2019/2020, I'm not sure how. She and Judy were still together until the end. It was a very sad situation and everyone could tell they were very close. As for the bigot, Julie Chase is trying to get a photography business together, but is always reminded of how she behaved on the show.
I know when Julie first came back everyone was really angry with how she behaved and that people around here still remember it and talk about her, so I'm honestly not surprised if she is still having trouble. X.x My ex worked at a grocery store she went to at the time and even just when she'd go to get groceries people would recognize and avoid her when this first happened. 😔 Sad to hear about Pepper, her and her family seemed so nice. I hope the rest of her family is doing okay ❤
I think the party left her suddenly having to think about how she was coming across on TV. The vindictive comments about the money and implication she was going to screw them over were how she'd have done it if not for thinking about how she would be viewed. The thoughtful spending and even her comment to her kids about change at the end were all, imo, her trying to save face and all bad acting in the same way as her shaking hysterics when she got home.
The way Julie acts like such a wounded child! Running into her daughters arms for them to comfort her! She should be comforting them! She’s a sick individual! This episode was really hard to watch! I hope Karma gets her good!
Lets all clap for Judy. She changed people's lives during that week stay. Then in one conversation she got through to Julie and made full circle for that family. We are blessed to have people like her on this planet.
notice how when julie is alone she is so strong on her views. as soon as she is out numbered by people who don’t agree with her she doesn’t want her views shared and called out. she knows she’s wrong.
My incredible 9-year-old son has Down syndrome, but that's not what he is. With our Isaac, after a brief period of "fear of the unknown," we felt like we hit the baby lottery! He is perfect in every way and blesses everyone who is lucky enough to meet him and receive one of his famous hugs. My biggest fear is not having a child with a disability, it's having a child who would bully a child with a disability! My head pounded and tears pricked my eyes with each word Julie spewed next. Thanks for cleaning me out of tissues Julie. At least the world can now see what an insensitive, intolerable, rude and uncouth woman I've ever seen, and I'm a conservative Christian/Jesus Freak!!! The Lane's are a lovely, gracious family. I'll pray for you, Julie.
your child is perfect in the eyes of the Creator. we are created to be who we are just like our Creator intended. never let someone who is a spawn of evil ever let you shed a tear because they don't understand the beauty in your child. blessings, light and love from a stranger across the world.
Julie has no redeeming qualities. her bullying isn't tolerated by today's society. especially behavior like this from adults. I'm sure she's been ostracized, living with her miserable family.. your son sounds amazing! wishing you and your son the best!
My heart breaks for Pepper's family as they listen to Julie's incessant bullshit. Playing the victim while being toxic is not a good thing especially when you are in another person's home. I am utterly flabbergasted by Julie and her sanctimonious attitude! God bless you Pepper.
I just saw on Facebook where Pepper passed away...how sad, but yet Julie is truly the most beautiful if not amazing woman through it all. RIP Pepper Lane
Rest in nothing but love and peace Pepper! I love how your family made even the tiniest impact on that family and that awful human Julie. I hope she turned a new leaf and isn’t such a waste space.
@@tinaehrob384She had a liver transplant, but a lung problem took her away from us all. I know, that she is in Heaven, because she was ALL about love, kindness, respect, and understanding. 😢
What a horrible family(Chase)! I feel so bad for the youngest daughter!! The partner couple was so sweet & accepting, the kind of family you want to see.
Sara R The wife is a horrible sociopath ,a narcissistic ,closed minded woman and crazy. While the husband is no better he is a bully,extra-competitive,selfish and closed-minded as well. The oldest daughter is a copy of her parents. The youngest is the weakest and saddest. While in the lesbian family the whole family is open-minded and caring. The one staying at home is like a saint and the one who went to the swap moms house was good and very observant. The kids are adorable specially the daughter. The son is cute and smart
Julie leaves her house, and none of her kids care or tell her bye. New mom gets hugs and the kids don't want her to go....But Julie thinks she is perfect.
This is sooo hard to watch - not sure I'll make it to the end....never in my life have I seen such cold, callous, uneducated, blatant, lack of care or respect for others - such a bully!
I wish they showed more of what Judy said that made such a change in Julie - and I hope that Julie continued to grow away from that place of pain/hate.
I have no words. This woman is VILE. Her heart is cold, she's soulless and ignorant to the point she has created a different reality for herself. She needs psychiatric help. I feel sorry for her, it must suck to have literally no love about anyone in your soul.
It was so hard watching Julie try to gaslight Pepper and pretend that SHE was the victim. This is a classic abuser tactic. I am so happy that Pepper was strong and secure enough to see this head game for what it was and protect herself. BUT, I am sorry that she was in a position where she had to do that in the first place.
I did some facebook stalking and found that Pepper has recently passed away. They looked to be very happily in love until the very end. I would love for them to be my moms too!
At the end when Julie breaks down and wonders if she's a monster and if her family will want her back- that's a good moment for self-reflection. It's never too late to see we're on the wrong path and change our view, opinions, behaviors. I pray that her self-reflection led to genuine positive change for her and her family.
I think she was just trying to make conversation with the kid, since some kids love to talk about the teeth they lost and the money they got from the tooth fairy and all. Hard to tell since editing cut off right after she asked
Elena Coda Nunziante unless a child is conversing with an adult about loosing teeth it shouldn’t be conversed about. It would be different if the question was “did the tooth fairy visit”
Julie being so apologetic to her family when she got home is subconsciously her way of saying sorry for the person she was to pepper. And meeting Judy and realizing she was also wonderful and her family being around a wonderful person made her realize how terrible she is
That was a ploy and a bug act for the Narcissist to garner supply from her helpless captive audience establishing herself as the victim in this situation.
Julie's fears and crying at the end could have been justified if she actually realized that she was "a monster" but it was really clear that she was just doing it to justify her own actions and fish for validation. What a pitiful woman.
I think Julie has never been in a situation that challenged her beliefs and when exposed to this challenge, she believed she was in the right. But when she had that meeting to explain how she was not treated very nicely because she had very hateful views and they were brought up, I think it hit her that she might actually be wrong. So the trip home, she was doubting herself and realizing that maybe she was the monster in all this. I hope she wasn't tracked down and hated on for her backwards views after being on tv where they were exposed and instead just became more accepting over time.
Yeah she wasn't even really challenged hard or pushed. She really just volunteered her beliefs and pushed pepper to discuss it and then didn't like how it felt when not a single person was with her. The awkwardness and tension must have been unbearable. Their whole family (chase family) has a miserable existence.
Judy is such a wise, patient and kind woman. Such strength dealing with mean ignorance. She has made this people's life better in many ways. Thank You Judy for showing how to deal with bullies.
The name calling from the dad really bothers me! I can't imagine ever talking to my child that way!!!I really feel for the daughters!! Where is the love and caring parent..... they don't even have one, never mind two!!! My heart breaks for them! It was really nice to see the change he made! Good for him!!
Can't believe her family missed he,.Julie is so selfish,rude, full of hate, how can her daughters miss that a mean mom like that..hard to believe anyone would want a family with something like that..
Both of the women (of the lesbian couple) were very kind in their feedback to the husband and wife who they were each spending the week with. They were both such good models to me, because I may have been more confrontational and judgemental, which would have been me acting just like the straight couple's family dynamics. Instead, the women gave their feedback in a way that DEMONSTRATED kindness, empathy, compassion, acceptance, etc., which of course, is much more effective.
If I was a guest at the dinner party when Julie asked the guest if there were any more questions I would have asked her if I could help her pack and call a cab.
As a lesbian i thank you for supporting the rainbow family. Its disgusting the way the woman was. Anti everything but the bible. Lesbians can like religion too and god wouldnt like such disgusting comments im sure of that. What about not judging others? Clearly this lady missed that line in the bible. Glad your nit judgemental. Were all tthe same no matter what race . religion or colour or where your from or where your family is from . treat people as you like to be treated.
@@memorialled_zeppelin-warew1346 so true. I taught my kids never to judge they are now 19 and 32( boy and girl) I work for a dentist and he is gay and Hispanic. Our office is probably 50% gay. I never had any problems with that. He’s the BEST employer I ever had. I love him and respect him so much and his partner! Love is love.
Charlie is the embodiment of since I wanted sons but had daughters ill turn my daughters into the sons I wanted 😑 Edit: I'm glad Julie talked more to Charlie about why he's so competitive. Generational trauma is poison.
Julie is just a thoroughly unpleasant person. In the name of honesty she tells everybody exactly what she sees and does not care that she hurts them because "she told the truth"
...yet she reflects what's inside of her...when we judge another we are really reflecting ourselves...she carries SO much shame and hate for herself...something really bad happened to her...
@@Joesfosterdogs that's what flabbergasted me, this is likely her "toned down" version, yet is the most hateful and unkind person I've ever seen. Crazy to think about :(
Dear Judy, the love between you and Pep will always exist - regardless of physical time and space. She's always with you and you are both a shining inspiration to humanity. Love, gratitude, blessings and strength to you. One of the most valuable spices :)
I will say this: Most blatant Arrogance like this comes from extreme insecurity, and the way she fell apart when she showed herself to be a monster does show that insecurity. She felt like a small person, and blew her self up big to try and compensate, and then it backfired on her big time.
@@Leahh823 BS.......that her....self hate and always the victim.....just like she crying most likely did this a zillion times and punk acc hubby felt for it early and turn his personality into shit to daughters...wondering about their branches.
I love that no one ever called her a monster.. but she knew she was hence why she called herself that over and over. She recognizes her views are negative, but doesn’t desire to educate herself. I really wish there was an update on these families.
When Julie told her girls "We're not going to do that anymore" (when they started the negativity & bickering), I teared up.... Some good really came out of the exchanged family week. I hope she kept it up.
A genius dad damaging his children before they can be in professional sports, setting them up for a short career and with long term physical and emotional resentment
I love how everyone's talking about Julie when the real issue is the whole dysfunctional family and the toxic environment they've created for their daughters to grow up in. I understand sibling rivalry but the vibe that I'm getting from those two girls is that they're obviously not getting enough love so they lash out at each other in *pure hate* as in, they probably actually hate each other. I grew up in a household like this and it makes it difficult creating non-toxic relationships later in life. I just hope they've gotten help.
The oldest daughter perfectly captured the dynamic of the family when she said she doesn’t want to be the littlest one being picked on, the family is set up with a competitive, survival of the fittest, no weakness shown to anyone even those you love because they will tear you down type of dynamic. It makes for emotionally unwell adults.
Notice how separated from Julie, her family can easily learn to evolve and have open minds and be better people. Julie herself is a lost cause and it’s her energy that I can guarantee chokes that entire family. Sad. If dad didn’t divorce her in the years following this, she’s beyond lucky.
Julie is the embodiment of the phrase "Hurt people, hurt people". Watching her breakdown after some alone-time when travelling home was very difficult to watch. I pray that she and her family are in a much better place mentally/relationally now xx
I have been looking for this episode for quite some time. The Hate Family was just so vile to one another and some of the things that the Hate woman said were just so awful. I don't know if they were told to say certain things by the producers, but it was hard to watch. Furthermore, the couple was so lovely and nice and even adopted a child. It upsets me to know that they face hostility but look at them! They are beautiful, they are loving, they provide a safe home to children. So many children grow up in awful homes and I hate it when innocent people are pikced on - those two Mothers are wonderful.
@@tylerlavoie9132 Just watch it, you can always fast forward some parts. As it is a reality show, I do not know how much was "contrived." But the things that came out of Julie's mouth were so hard to hear and nowadays the concept of a lesbian couple is not even that unusual.
You just know Julie and her husband watched this and said, "They edited us to look like that, we're not that bad!" Even tho no matter how out of context those statements were, they were still awful.
I read a reddit AMA from the son (Corey?) of the Lanes and he said they actually edited out a lot of really bad things Julie said. Like when she enters the house and sees the little girl and says how cute she is ... before that, when she found out the little girl was Black, she was commenting on how a lot of Black people can be unattractive so she was relieved to see she wasn't super Black.
