I’m retraining at 55 years old. I have maybe 10 years left before I retire so I’m going enjoy those last those last ten years doing something physical watching all your videos!!
Start as a plumber from when you leave school. Don't go to university, you learn more on site, way more than they learn just by reading books. Go to university later, when you're stronger minded
Thay are a lot of plumbers that won't take trainees that makes it hard for kids that want a job same with all trades you train them up and then thay go it should be a 5 year epprentership like it was years ago not 18 months nvq
@@alanbrown4637 We often see it can be tricky for some trainees attending other training centres to find their own placement; that is why at #VIVATraining, we have built a relationship with gas engineers and gas engineering firms who work with our trainees and take them out for the experience they need and to build their portfolio.
When I was in my early 20s I tried to become a qualified plumber and hopefully move onto gas. It was so difficult to get taken on the job as a apprentice to get my portfolio to gain my nvq quals. Phoned some many people even further afield not in my area no 1 was interested in taking me on. This was in mid 2000s.
haha, my father was a gas engineer. He said: Son, never become a gas engineer, because you'll always be working in the cold. Wenn the heating works, you have to move to the next freezing building site.
Winter doesn't last long in the UK @rudyhonings, and there are tonnes of different specialist areas in the gas industry. With the correct clothing and an electric heater, you get along great if it is cold in a customer's house. Did your dad tell you the industry provides a great lifestyle, and you can accelerate past your peers who study for degrees with ease? Did he tell you about the job satisfaction, the challenges and the ability to excel as an engineer? Gas engineering is a brilliant career choice, and our trainees never look back!
@@vivatrainingUK Bro, i can relate i have a Masters in Construction Management and struggling to get a decent paid Job as graduate. I would have to spend years getting paid peanuts just to work up to a decent Salary. I came from a poor background and thougjt education would help me out of it. Ive decided today to start a intense gas training programme. Ill update how i get on. By the way ive decided to do it at access training. Do you recommend them? Thanks again Viva, your channels great.
Go for it Shunel, I don’t know enough about them to recommend them. The questions I would ask... Do they provide sufficent placements to complete your portfolio. Do they fully support you through the portfolio process and if so. How? How big are the class sizes? We keep our class sizes to a maximum of 10 so you can get all the time you need with the trainers. How experienced are the trainers? Our trainers are ex-British Gas & Baxi Trainers, and we have trainers visit us from Worcester Bosch, the HSE and other manufacturers. What ongoing support do they have available? As a skills centre we are here to support you along your career, if you want to niche in boiler repairs or cross skill to air source heat pumps or air conditioning we have you covered. I can’t speak for any other training centres just VIVA Training. We put heart and soul into everything we do! All the best!
Thank you Sir! I have watched your videos while I have been retraining as a gas engineer from a health care industry work and it has been a blast. However a number of qualified engineers who agree to take on trainees seem selfish in passing on their experience to the trainees. Although very keen to use and abuse a trainee as free labourer. Forgetting that not long ago he was a trainee himself! Sharing is caring and the only way to make safer better engineers of the future. Through teaching we learn more ourselves.
We hear this a lot from trainees attending other centres and trying to find their own placement; that is why at #VIVATraining, that's why we include this with our training programme, and we have engineers who work with our trainees and take them out for the experience they need and to build their portfolio.
The biggest question for Gas Trainees is around portfolio placement. At #VIVATraining, we have built a relationship with gas engineers and gas engineering firms who work with our trainees and take them out for the experience they need and to build their portfolio.
Ive been a plumber since 2003 since leaving school. Been with companies since 2009. Now on my own since last december. Never looked back. Busy but drying up abit work wise. Ive also heard now all building sites are slowing/ stopping buildings now due to market so alot of site plumbers will be heading towards the domestic market. Im half worried but ill deffo look into this heat source stuff as i was with a fridge firm for 10 years
Am I the only plumber who wished he was a sparky? 🤣. It sounds good all this air source but these units are bloody heavy same as the k3 rads we'll all be fitting. I don't mind the heavy lifting but my body is starting to pay the price and I'm still youngish. Sometimes I think how good it would be to run about with a drum of cable and some screwdrivers 😆
Viva do training like it should be done, granted. The majority of other training centres pump out zero experience people who aren't even close to being an "engineer". Pumps can be done by anyone who can pipe up and hydrogen is pie in the sky.
Thank you for your comment Frazer! It is really appreciated. We work especially hard to make our training relevant and top quality, with our trainees making their way into teh industry as a result. If you need anything, give us a call. (like a fiver for more comments like that one! 😂) For clarity, Ian was not paid for his comment 😂😂😂
That is such an untrue statement. Over 50% of engineers are over 55 years old and will be thinking about retirement. There are thousands of gas engineers loving their rewarding careers in the industry. I speak to hundreds and hundreds each year.
I’m considering a career change. I have just turned 40 and have been cleaning pretty much my whole life. I’ve built up a reputable business for my wife and myself, but I’m sick and tired of the work. After completing a gas engineer course, what can I realistically expect my starting salary to be if I get employment? I have a friend who can sign off my portfolio, but he is self employed so I won’t be working with him long term. Would be so grateful for some advice. I’m nervous to pay for a course and take two months off work. Will be a struggle with no income!
Hi Allen, I live in Leeds and recently passed my ACS with VIVA. So I'm looking for my first job in the industry. At the moment it seems the big boys are all either asking for 2 years experience OR they will take me on through an agency as a contractor. Either way it seems they're not taking new entrants at the minute. ....Currently working my way through a heating system design/heat pump course whilst I'm looking for work. Could do with a bit of advice as to what sort of role and where I should be looking
That's why we are so passionate about training new entrants to a high standard getting them ready to join the industry, often as an improver, so they can go on to grow their knowledge and experience.
When you gey gas registered. What's the best way to get experience. Most companies don't give you a chance, and say you need 5years experience for manufactures. Also how to develop plumbing skills?
Allen if u help me I want come there and ready to get education about gas engineering. Also I have gas engineering certification in Turkey but just need recognition. So please let me know what I can do.
Hi does anyone have any ideas how I can get into the industry without committing to a full time course as I still need income for rent and bills etc Aged 27 and based in Manchester.
I'm in Portsmouth. I've been in the navy 10 yearsish. I have a carpentry apprenticeship under my belt but I am ready to leave the navy. Would you recommend it for someone like me?
It would suit someone like you absolutely; there are a lot of the forces guys enjoying a rewarding career in the gas industry. If you would like to discuss your options, call me.
I've retrained as a plumber at 40 and I've applied for a good one hundred jobs and been told sorry position has gone even applied for an gas apprenticeship and got told I didn't have enough experience too much ageism going on in the industry
We have ladies and gentlemen training on the gas engineering course from 18 to 78 years old. Once qualified, the vast majority of our trainees are employed in the industry.. For some, it takes longer than others, but I suggest to our trainees that you tell everyone what you are doing and look for opportunities from the day you start your gas training, not wait until you have completed your gas training. As a result, we have guys who have secured employment with companies, and some nationals, whilst they are on the training course. We do reserve some advice for VIVA's trainees when asked!
Hey Allen. Question, I want to train to be a gas engineer, do you think I have to go down the route of getting plumbing training first then through that experience endeavour down the gas engineer route ?
Hi Allen I am 29 and in the Bradford/Keighley areaI have had a real interest in gas and electric, what would be the best place to start, I have seen a few training courses about, but wanted some expert advice, stay blessed.
Yes if you train properly and learn proper fault finding. There’s a massive shortage in engineers who can use a multimeter and wire conventional systems with multiple zones
During the gas MLP at VIVA Training, we do cover the boiler wiring side of things, and we have a course which just covers the boiler working side of things.
Allen, from what I have seen a "gas engineer " can't repair a boiler and definitely don't understand a PLUMBING system. The level of skills a person has who has a "gas safe" ticket is in my experience appalling.
There are good and bad in all industries and professions. We are doing our level best to raise the standards and make training available to all engineers across the UK.
How can someone get to be a plumber my friends lad is on his 2nd year at Leeds college of building on a plumbing course he's 18 he wants to be a plumber but has he said phoned loads of plumber s in wakefield but without any luck he lives in outwood wakefield so if there is anyone that's taking a trainee let me no
@@vivatrainingUK in the 70is and 80is thay was a financial incentive by the government to take a trainee plumbing electrician all kinds of trades and you had them for 5 years now it's a 18 months nvq I think we are now getting a skill shortage when you here of young people with eprentiships its with there dads or family or friends
Love your vid s but as a a gas engineer of 20 years don't think I'll be telling my kids to do it. ..Constant training, exams, tool and van theft not much in your favour with the state of the country