Trains in Trouble 3 

Thanks Stephen, really appreciate the response and your so right about the countryside sounds 👍

Mostly Robins from what I could hear. Lovely birdsong.

@@jorodo299 I could pick out ring necked pheasants in the chatter, among the many other wonderful creatures. 😀

Thanks Casey , had a chat with an ex British Rail driver who had gone back to work once the preservation scene took off and what a gent with fantastic stories to tell 👍

Thanks for the kind comment and the conditions were perfect for the sound 👍🎥

Thanks Neil , much appreciated 👍

Thanks Jean, pleased you enjoyed it 👍

Thanks Andrew , not many other’s but Ron Smith and Mick Rawlings are long term drivers.

That was summer, everything is green, and the birds are singing, so how could it have been frost affecting the loco.

@@ianwebb7488 Read the description!

@@ianwebb7488 definately a cold morning the way the exhaust is hanging around

It was -3 on a Saturday morning around 7am at the end of September Ian with most of the frost on the ground in the shaded areas.

Notoriously light footed? Only a reputation gained from people just saying it. It's was a really heavy on horrendous railhead conditions, any other Pacific would have got into the same trouble. Soon has it found dry rail, it was away.

Thanks David, the cows certainly added the sounds 😂👍

Thanks for the comment Scot , sorry you thought it overly long but i think if I’d have chopped the video somewhat the story of what happened that day would not be the same. Regards Steve

Thanks Howard , pleased you enjoyed the video 👍

Thanks Jim , I know what you mean as that morning I did think oh dear this isn’t going to end well.

Thanks Philip , it was a superb display from Mr Cubbit as I thought at first it would be there for a while.

Thanks Steve, it was indeed the day I saw you near Clapham and I could’ve got it again coming into Low Bentham but changed my mind 🤷

Thanks Austin, yes I certainly did as it was different again near Clapham weather wise oddly .

Thanks for the kind comment and my external mic picked up everything that morning with it being still .

Thanks Nige , it was another of those right place mornings 👍🎥

Thanks Daryl , a similar thing happened years back where the support crew had to hand sand the line to help restart the engine.

Thanks Philip, wasn’t sure about the Merchant at first being an LMS man but she has put in some blistering shows 👍

Distributed Power Units ( DPU ) is also used in the Pilbara Iron Ore Railroads of Western Australia, but not New Zealand ( my native country ), loved the English Countryside and usual farm sounds. Not been in UK for 27 years which was better than my parents. Love the scenery, thanks for sharing. Happy 2022 from New Zealand. A similar train exists in North Island, New Zealand I think between Pukekohe & Waiuku ( same size as pictured UK ). A scaled version for kids & parents exists in North Islands ( NZ ) Thames area which I believe is called the Driving Creek Railway, which was NZ gold rush area. Watch for associated museum for gold extraction. A great spot to visit next time in New Zealand. 😁👌👍😄

Thanks for the kind comment 👍

Thanks Dave , all the best for 2022 👍

@@TheStephengthompson Hi Steve,Yes and same to you ,,Cheers....Dave 😷

Thanks Thomas, it was the safety valves opening to let the excess steam out. Regards Steve

That's the call of ring necked pheasant, which I recognize because we have them living here in my neighborhood in Canada as well. 😉🇨🇦

Thanks for the kind comment and I was in the right place for once .

Doubt it as I caught her up due to more slips nearer Hellifield 😂

Thanks for the kind comment 👍

Thanks David, it was very still and clear skies but nearer Hellifield it was totally different.

Thanks Willy , possible that they were that day.

Thanks Nigel, this was the second time 35018 had trouble on this line as the year before it struggled to restart the heavy load away from High Bentham station but it was on a tight uphill curve.

Thanks Adrian 👍

Thanks for the kind words and I like your thinking 👍

Thanks Lynn, it certainly was 👍

The oil bath was removed on locos rebuilt by BR and replaced with conventional valvegear. No oil bath on this rebuilt Merchant Navy.

@@pencarrow-7mmogaugecornish510 thankyou

Thanks Alan, the animals did there part in the soundtrack I must admit 😂The t RTT oafs around where she slipped were very icy so pretty understandable the rails were also.

I’d say Graham as she’s been over Shap and the S&C with 13 or more 👍

Thanks Nigel, pretty sure it happened back in the past but I don’t think a Bullied ever ran from Carnforth to Hellifield via this line but this day on a tight uphill right hand bend with a heavy load and frosty rails in the cutting ultimately caused the problem but fair play to the driver to get the train moving again.

It's not a lack of experience, more a case of local conditions proving too much, as can be seen the train made it eventually, which took a great deal of skill in and of itself. It can be safely said there are few mainline steam drivers with more experience than Mr Cubitt.

Thanks Andy , don’t think they were but you could be right 🤷

Thanks Michael, it did look like it’d rained as the roads were pretty slippery that morning.

I think practice makes perfect with this. We have people who occasionally drive steam locos now, where back in the day they did it every day for decades so likely were a lot more skilled in squeezing out the most from their machines without wheel slip or grinding to a halt.

My favourite spot. Looking through the railings between Kennedys and the Post Office sorting office!!

Thanks for the kind comment 👍

Thanks Bob , at the time I thought this could be a long time to get moving again but a superb job from the crew 👍

if there "masaterclass drivers " they shouldnt have ground to a halt ...

Even the best driver would struggle with railhead conditions beyond there control 🤷

Thanks Simon, a right place moment that morning 👍

That’s the sound of the wheels spinning on the frosty rails Eddie possibly but mainly it’s because it’s a three cylinder engine as Collin mentions .

Maybe because it's a three cylinder steam locomotive.

Thanks Simon, to be fair it has been rebuilt in the last few years and is probably better than it was back in the day 🤔Pretty sure the crew wouldn’t have jeopardised the engine or track .

Thanks Bruce, at least you gave me a view even with the fast forward so thanks again. Regards Steve

Thanks for the kind comment and I do like the details on he Bachman locos 👍

@@TheStephengthompson Was referring to Bachman's lack of tractive effort

Sorry yes I did know what you meant just didn’t come across that way 🤔👍

Thanks for the kind comment but it was September so normally an easy run at that time of year just unusual weather conditions did make life difficult 😞

Thanks Toni , got there in the end.

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Thanks Pete , probably were 😂

Thanks Dennis, fair comment actually as your spot on so will think better next time.

Thanks Alan, right place right time moment 👍

Thanks Karen, that’s very true 😂😂

Thanks Collin , surprised they used 35018 as Guardsman would’ve been better.

It has 6'2". I don't think the Scot would've faired much better in the conditions, and it's got 6'9" wheels.

Thanks Andy , plenty of cows etc where I live 👍😂

Thanks Obiwan , 35018 actually has gravity fed sanders that give sand directly onto the rail head but I think they were nearly empty. The support crew would have had to hand sand the rails if the worst scenario had happened like Mr Cubbit not being able to get the engine moving. Regards Steve

Thanks Kevin 👍😂

Thanks for the kind comment 👍

Thanks Jim , possibly both 😂

Thanks for the kind comment and the sand boxes were in use that morning just sad they ran out of sand hence they were refilled at the next stop.

Thanks for the comment 👍

Thanks Martin, think I could’ve 😂😂

@@TheStephengthompson you could have tried..haha..great video btw. Right place right time

What absolute bollocks!

@@nigelmitchell351 My sentiments also. Bullied's locos were rebuilt because they were very inefficient. They would certainly do the business if you absolutely hurled coal at them but BR were running a railway, not playing trains. They were also very heavy on maintenance. Their reversers were a joke and on test could not be held in one position - they drifted all over the place. Tangmere (34067) stalled on Hemerdon not because of slipping or shortage of steam but because the steam driven reverser simply would not go into a longer cutoff, like a car driver unable to engage a lower gear on a steep hill. Ridiculous! Bullied was a self-indulgent show-off. As for no decent BR express locos I think the known performance of the Britannias puts the lid on that nonsense.

@@Rosie6857 I largely agree Rosie, strange why such a well maintained loco like Tangmere should suffer this ailment though.? Bullied wasn't the first to use steam reverers, they were widely used on American locomotives. However there can be no doubting Mr Bullied's modern boilers could really perform, read the performance figures whilst on test at Rugby, my home town incidentally. I have have had some very interesting conversations with drivers and firemen who worked in the test house. As for the Coronation Pacific's being copies of over weight GWR kings, well I refer you to my previous comment.! 😁 PS I read that BR checked the weight of a King and found them nearer 25 tons on the drivers, no wonder they didn't slip too often. The Brits were fine locos I think almost straight off the drawing board, if only it could have been the same for the Duke. I'm not partisan about any companies locos, I love them all really, just some a bit more than others...... Happy new year.!

@@nigelmitchell351 The Kings were significantly overweight and so were the Castles incidentally but I think the reason they were pretty slip-free was because they were 4-6-0's, not 4-6-2's. Pacifics are inherently slippy beasts, all of them. Maybe we should have had 2-8-2's but it is difficult to design a pony truck suitable for high speeds. Or even 4-8-0's à la French 240P, a monster performer. Incidentally, there is a loco on the Bluebell Line with a steam reverser, the C class 0-6-0 no. 592. Seems a bit of an unnecessary refinement for such a small loco but it works well. It's a different design from Bulleid's gear. I've seen it work from the footplate. ­

Thanks Gerald, it’s a long video yes but I maybe could’ve made it shorter 🤔

@@TheStephengthompson Sped the train up until the interesting part

Thanks Elaine, the main problem was big wheels on very frosty rails I’d say.

Faulty sanding gear is another possibility.

I believe they had to refill the sand boxes at Hellifield as they were nearly empty .

Thanks Peter , a lot of people do like to travel behind the locos from days gone bye still so could be around a bit longer yet .

Thanks Mike 👍

Thanks Matthew , it was early morning but you can’t please everyone obviously 🙄

😂😂I’m laughing because you gave me a view 👍