trangia 27 series review / billy can / my personal add-ons. 

Your right, someone else said that, it is the best way 👍

Thanks for that, and yes, they are an amazing bit of kit.

It is a pretty good all rounder, reliable, friend for life cooker, glad you like.. 👍

Thanks carmen Martinez, you're welcome 👍

Did your pan get any warps from heat? mine did :( but trangia said they'll send out a replacement, I'll let you know if they follow through

I’ve been using mine 20 odd years and it would still be as I got it had I not lent it a mate. He borrowed it and tried to snuff out the flame with the lid rather than doing it properly with the simmer ring, by just throwing it on it didn’t seat right and seal off the oxygen so the flame kept burning and melted the rubber ring in the lid. £1.99 it cost for a new one, its not bad going at all considering it’s it’s been all round Europe with me, on motorbike trips, festivals etc and still gets abused at least 30 times a year.

​@@Tiger-789 Did they follow through?

@@Olm9 Yes they have! They sent a new one completely free of charge. I learned you have to be pretty careful with the heat because the material is thin and there's a lot of flat surface that's susceptible to warping. I also learned warping is fine.. it's still pretty functional for frying almost anything even if it's warped :)

@@Tiger-789 Good to hear! Makes you happy to chose Trangia 🥰

@stuartbennion for an old design, it's pretty good. It does everything you need. Cooking on a yellow flame with solid food is best. Gas is OK, but it is only good for boiling water. I used it on a long-distance hike, and it was totally reliable, including in the lapland mountains. It will last a lifetime. You can't go wrong. The seals on the spirit burner might need replacing after about 4 or 5 years, but that's just pennies. Thanks, I hope you enjoyed watching.

@adrianianna2868 waw, that's fantastic, and yet I'm not surprised. There's no wear and tear points except the seal on the spirit burner eventually. It's simple, and it just works. Nice one 💯👍

Your welcome cheers 👍

You're welcome chesteruk 👍

Thanks Ron, I now have the proper tool for the cup, it's called a trangia pan stand. It does the same thing, but it's for any pot as well. I'm glad you enjoyed the video 👍

I'm really glad you enjoyed the video Brent, when I drilled the holes I put a curved bit of wood against the none stick so the drill bit was drilling 1 solid piece of metal and wood, that stops the none stick coming off. Hope this helps 👍

@@amonster8mymother I'm glad you learned something and had a pleasant surprise 💯👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty yea nice. Actually I'm surprised to see you lighting the burner that way I never do it that way I light it before I put the guard on. I heard somewhere that if you do it that way you could burn your hand. So 8 light 8t first thrn 8 out the guard on. 😁

@amonster8mymother you are right, I should light before putting the guard on. It's a habit derived from using it in breezy conditions on the high hills.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty if you've got a long lighter or barbeque lighter it should be ok I've had it bloom while I've tried to light it and burnt my eyebrows to a crisp. 🔥

@amonster8mymother 😆 you'd make a great comedian. Be careful out there. it might explode 💥

I think maybe that's what it's made for with that solid wind shield, what I failed to mention also is the aluminium Billy can also be used as a second wind shield in high winds and a bowl to wash your face in the morning if you are camped a little out the way of water.

It's bulky because of the metal wind shields surrounding it. I believe it's made for rugid conditions like mountains and moorland though it is an old design. Glad you enjoyed Paul 👍

Yer, the trangia 27 series is strangely addictive. It's simple and does everything, anywhere. I don't use that circular ring to hold my metal cup, I have the proper trangia device for that, but better still, I have these 2 titanium small pieces that slot together to make a cross effect. It is very small, light, and does the same job. I used one for 3 months walking the top of Norway, down to the middle of Sweden, never had any problems, I was well seasoned in using it, which was even a nicer feeling being in the outdoors. That was the first video I uploaded. It's just pictures, but I wanted to learn how to upload it.

Thanks Tim, I know what you mean about waffle, it's like being in a traffic jam but it's a waffle jam. I still use this cooker, it's on a couple of videos I've done lately, the only difference is I have swapped the round stand surrounding the spirit burner for a proper trangia pan stand which strangely enough fits the 27 and 25 series and it does the same job. Just search for trangia pan stand if you want one. Glad you enjoyed the video Tim 👍

Waw that's a wonderful story and memories and also just goes to show the trangia is a great cooker and was ahead of it's time. 👍🐟🐠💯%

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty they have been going strong since the 50's. Here in Scandinavia they are THE STOVE, even people who never hiked or used a trangia, will recognize it. For me trania is nostalgia, even if you handed me the most modern, light and efficient stove on the market, I will never let down my trangia, we'll stay mates for life!

@@kewsoner7924 my thoughts exactly, I couldn't of explained it any better and deep in my thoughts earlier on I new I would come round to thinking that way. Like old reliably friends that never leave you irrelevant of the distance between you. 🏅👍

It's the 2.5 litre. In my personal opinion I think that the tatonka billy can is better than the zebra billy can because of the wider base which is better for wet food, beans, chilli con carne, etc, and the lid is a realistic sized plate and you can get a utility strap to go around it to keep the lid on because of the bailing arm attachments whilst in your rucksack. a guess the 2.5 litre could feed between 1 -- 3 people and is a good weight for steel.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Hi Andy, thanks for replying that’s really useful, I will buy one to enhance my Trangia 27, Keep up the great vids Thanks

That's would be a good idea. I've seen other RU-vid videos where people have used a steel one from another company, but I'm not sure which one it is.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty that's the one from GSI. A GSI kettle, pretty much popular.

Oh ya, I now owned the 27-2 Duossal, but I want to switch the windshields from UL to HA

@@Kang_Guru. don't throw this one away. They are really good cookers to have.👍

Thank you David, I'm glad you found the video was ok 👍

That's very kind of you, thanks 👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Dear, sir, your review was a joy to watch and I learned so much more about how to nicely add some more convenience to this already functional stove! (By the way, you got now a new subscriber to your excellent Y T Channel, and of course, I have given you thumbs up! Best regards from Sweden (Trangia is made here in Sweden as you of course know!)

Thanks for the input with the strap, will try that next time. Really glad you likes the video.

I thought about mentioning cutting the inner lip but I didn't want to get the blame if someone messed it up. I'm sure you'll eventually realise that your 27 series trangia will be the best and versatile cooker you'll ever own.

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed 😊

I can see what your saying, it's worked OK so far but I'll bear that in mind, cheers.

Cheers 👍💯

I've got the gas unit but thanks neeman callender 👍

Thanks. Have both gas and alky burner. Not gotten the “billy-boiler” yet. Thought was to use it for “washing up,” actually…

I've already got the zebra lunch box and put some little holes in the pan. Great minds think alike 👍 I have a proper "tranga pan stand" now, which holds any pot or mug. Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed the video Pedro 🙂

Hook and loop, sounds dead easy. 👍

Doug your idea is way better then the original trangia metal buckle!! I'm having that thanks I'm swapping mine lol

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty what's hook & loop?

@@liquidvic velcro.

Thanks, glad you liked the video MerlinCH, the scrubber was ok but it held a little moisture when packed away through the day so I've since replaced it with a hand held round dish washer brush with soft bristles, an expensive one with the plastic handle cut off. The cheap ones have harder bristles that flatten down more quickly I think.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Thanks, Andy. Another great item is a little stainless steel pad (but not for aluminium). It great advantage is it will not rust or rot, and it dries quickly. And to avoid scratching the metal, I add some liquid dish soap, which acts as cutting oil, hence, no damage. Have a nice day :-)

Use a mostly-worn-out green pad???

@@dennisyoung4631 No, as even a worn-out green pad remains too hard. I use a softer one, described as "won't scratch". There are different types, i.e. for bathrooms, which are softer.

That's how great it is. Thanks for your excellent response 👍

The hair spray cans are a good price but can't be used it freezing weather, but it is still worth having 👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty true, that is a drawback of them - which is why I *also* have the isobutane canisters. Still, though - age, less-than good health, and other matters mean I’m not likely to attempt travel or “camping” in really cold weather, so I *should* be able to use regular “butane” as a rule. Still plan to have space in the ‘box for an ISO can…

Glad you liked the idea, all these things I discover myself, I don't get the information from anybody else.

Your welcome 😀

Thanks for the kind words, I have a bit of experience when it comes to experimenting with designs of outdoor stuff, i was always trying to perfect things where I could get the maximum out of something without too much extra weight and room, and be ready for a long-lasting trip that gear could do and withstand anything that came its way. Always been interested in long term expeditions, that would of been my ultimate job, however I never achieved it. Oh well, will have to dream on. 🥴

I've just weighed it, and it's 1lb 10 oz as it is when you buy it. That's with the upper and lower wind shield. If you add a lighter, a short ferro rod, a lifeventure titanium plate, and the frame that allows you to use any pot on it, it will then be 2lb 5oz. I did a long-distance walk and cycle in 2006 and 2007 with just the basic setup, and it was perfect in that world i was in. I walked from nordkapp at the top of Norway to the middle of Sweden. It took 3 months. A year later I cycled front the middle of Sweden back home to S wales. When you live like that, you get exceptionally fit, and you get really quick and comfortable at setting everything up. My first and second video is of these 2 trips, pictures only. enjoy your trip, it will be life changing. 👍

Thank you for such a wonderfulful reply. Great channel :)

They do everything you need, there's nothing to go wrong, it's simple. Make sure you get the version with a none stick frying pan. I'm not sure what you mean, doorknob? 😳

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty the alcohol burner resembles for overall shape and size an old brass doorknob, like some few I’ve seen over the years. Hence the term, “Incendiary Swedish Doorknob.” Ps: I rather *like* mine, but some places/times might mandate the use of a gas burner should cooking be required. Hence I plan to get a set with the gas burner “just in case.”

Addendum to above: have got the gas burner, and am well on the way to getting a full kit. Just need to get the outer(?) duossal pot, the strange wire thing that permit using non-Trangia pots, and a billy-can for heating wash-water…

Addendum #2: ordered the pan-stand today. Got the non-stick fryer a while back.

The pot grabber shouldn't get hot, it detaches from it. I've cooked sausages and both the grabber and the heat was fine. Unsure what your doing, maybe you need to take your time Lewis??

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty ok I'll take my time , the flame was very strong and the sausages where cooking / going black on the outside lol so I added the flame reducer which even on full was then not hot enough and a couple of time extinguished the flame , so I persevered with the full heat but this ment I had to keep removing the pan with the grabber , (not leaving the grabber on the pan) but doing it multiple time made the metal hot and it was get quite bloody warm ! on my little fingers. I think the weather conditions where so pleasant it made it very hot on a colder day I bet it would have been perfect. Thanks for your reply maybe I think I expect alittle too much from the stove , still I'm very happy with it. P.s check out the 124 buck Frontiersmans knife, (I just got the mora spark , its really good. )

@@lewislister7720 try cutting the sausages into 3 or 4 pieces or slice the sausages right down the length of the middle. That's how the fast food burger Van's do it in the UK, can be put in a sandwich then.

Thanks Paul 👍

I do still have it thanks

Near the end of the video I showed that you can nestle the cooker inside an MSR alpine stowaway pot, the biggest one. Well the frying pan fits in the pot plus with the lid on top of that turns it into a steamer. If you wanted to do this project then you must take your frying pan to the shop when buying the large MSR alpine stowaway pot because the lid of the pot may or may not fit in the frying pan. I showed 2 lids the same and one fitted and one didn't, the cut of the metal is so close in size. So the steam rises, goes through the holes in the pan and steams the food in the pan. It works a treat, and you can still fry with it as well. 👍

Glad you liked it 👍

Thanks 👍🇩🇪

Near the end of the video I show how it's possible to make a steamer using a MSR seagull stowaway pot, the steam goes through the holes.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty yes I got there eventually... I'm here just know to edit my post but you beat me to it...

Cheers dan 👍

Glad you liked it. 👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty . . Yes, I found it worthwhile, thank you Andy.

Cheers for that 👍

The none stick is the best, it does what the name says, I would never go back. The hard anodised fry pan is just that, no more no less. Fried food will still stick to it just like the standard fry pan.

I know what you mean with the hard anodised pan, beautifully smooth but food still stick. The none stick lives up to it's name, nothing sticks, even without cooking oil, or at least with eggs. If you feel a little bit of food sticking its not solid and a little shove with a piece of cutlery and it will shift without ripping the food. Once experienced nonstick, you'll never go back, its worth buying one.

I prefer the anodized. The non-stick surface eventually wears off. Some fear that it gets in your foot. If you go without you have to use something else like oil or butter.

I haven't had a metallic aftertaste with hard anodised aluminium. It is very smooth with a hard feel, though everybody's taste buds are different, some are more delicate than others. Trangia do a steel version of their pots. The materials are called duossal. It means duo-stainless steel-aluminium, these might be for you or a trangia frame that you can put in on the 3 tabs that allow you to use any type of pot. This frame is not shown on the video. Hope this helps, and thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked the video 👍

The frame to hold any pot is called a trangia pan stand.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty I've taken a chance and ordered a 27 5 ul non stick , the price of the steel ones was way out of my budget . Looking forward to getting it , and giving it some use 👍

@GixxerWayne I think you'll be impressed by its simplicity, reliability, variety of different types of meals it can cook and it can last a lifetime. The methylated spirits yellow flame is slower cooking than gas, but it will get there, you've made a great choice, and that's my opinion, I'm not being sponsored to say anything like that. All you need now is a fuel bottle and the chopped board/strainer 👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty the multi disk is my list , thanks for the informative vid and the helpful responses 👍

I think that's something to do with my talents, Mr billycan. 🤔🙂 how's things, I hope you're doing fine 👍

Nice one, I'm all for learning something to improve, it would also come in handy to a large degree in bad weather aswell when stowing away. ⭐👍⭐

It is a yellow flame after all, it will take longer. It's an all rounder to cook all sorts of food where as the stereotype gas stoves act like a blowtorch which is ideally for boiling water for noodles. The trangia gas set up is a little faster but it's not like a blowtorch. The bowels are angled In such a way that the flame goes up the side of the walls aswell where as the blowtorch wouldn't do that. Hope this helps and gives you a better understanding of it. 👍

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty it made me take out three old burners today and I had a gas leak .. a good laugh at myself .

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty I have an old pre trangia burner that I tried out tonight . It's insane , a yellow sooty flame as all I had was paraffin . What fuels do you recommend ? And should you fill the fuel reservoir all the way ?

@@lifesahobby I recommend metholated spirits and fill it as little or as much as you like.

Thanks Tony, your welcome 👍

18cm, I can't remember where I got it but they are really common. Google, trangia 18cm none stick frying pan, I'm sure you will find one. 👍

Msr seagull stowaway pots are up there with the best. You might be sorry you did that if it's to late to get them back out the bin.

@amonster8mymother you can get them from eBay. Put in camping gas canister adapter converter. Or try Google.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty ok I thought you would have an address for that one.

@amonster8mymother I got mine from eBay in 2016. I had to check that. I wasn't sure where I got it. They are from China, but they are good quality and worth having one. I had a look on eBay, and they are still for sale.

Thank you, 👍👍

Cheers Marco 🤘

heinnie.com/pathfinder-alcohol-stove I need to warn you. This spirit burner burns low to a poor extent and a waste of money but that's where I got the shield, they go together, it's up to you. Trangia actually have a frame that does the same job but I don't know the name of it. The gas adapter converter? Go to Amazon and type gas adapter converter there are loads to choose from.

Ok got it. Google trangia 27 series pan stand, I think that would be a better option rather than the shield burner. Hope this helps you out and I'm really glad you liked the video 👍

I just bought a "trangia pan stand" on Ebay there's plenty of options.

Thank you so much for the details and recommendations, they are helpful!

@goingwildagain the truth is I have no idea. I'm sorry i can't give you an answer. It's something I've never done. Come to think of it, don't you need an oven to cook bread? Maybe if you put the dough in the pot and the pot in the billycan and cook? If you try this, it's at your own risk.

Hard anodised aluminium paul

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty thanks for the quick response.

Is that all 🤣 Nice one, onemananddog 👍

Wow, I have 32 years of memories using trangia, but the one we had when I was a kiddo, was worn down so you could almost see true the pots years ago. But I have a new set, and I will never use anything else.

The cup is a vargo titanium and yes the cup and handles get hot but you can lift it with the trangia pot grip. The handles don't hold a lot of heat and they cool down well before the the tea gets warm

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Thanks for explaining that Andy. 👍🏻

the tatonka billy is 2.5l / 2.5 litre

I've always thought that the heat would transfer from the top windshield to the bottom windshield, but since then, I've learned that a lot of people leave the strap on. Cheers.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty the burner doesnt get hot until the last fuel is burning. If you fill it up it´ll burn for about 30 min and it doesnt get hot until the last 1-2 min when it burns out.

Ok Ashley, getting by though sick of work taking most of my time up which leaves me uninspired and thinking part time may be an option. That cooker is a good choice, it can last a lifetime and can do a lot for the little weight you would be carrying, some say it's slow but I still have this one and is my number 1 go to,, even for long distances which I did years ago. Haven't seen you in work for ages, you must of moved on to better things. Hope things are great for you Ashley and hope you enjoyed the video. 👍💜☮🤘

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Hi Andy, sorry you feel you work too much and not enough time doing the things you enjoy. I am currently training for Cardiff Bus and I am absolutely loving it. Like you, I am so tired of not having enough time for life. I feel healthier too. Maybe it's time for a change for you too mate?.....😄

@@ashleydanniels4814 I'm not loving it anymore but I am glad of it, however I might apply to go part time in a couple of years.

Good idea, I'll bear that one in mind for the future 👍👌

Very near the end of the video I showed how it's possible to make a steamer with the big MSR stowaway pot and trangia frying pan inserted if the MSR pot was included as a type of Billy can.

Just buy a steamer one those that fold out or a bamboo one

I fried with aluminium once and had to used stones to try and clean it so I never went back, it put me off aluminium as a frying pan. The scourer is just a back up, I normally clean pots with mud and water, but the scourer also stops the stuff in pots from rattling as well when its put back together.

sorry i can't translate but i hope you enjoyed the video

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty I have a set that is exactly the same, and it works really well. If you match it with a 2.5L stock pot, you will find that it can even meet the dietary cooking tasks of 3 people. Very classic outdoor pot set, really easy to use!

​@@Andy-walkaboutnutty The 2.5L soup pot is also trangia

@matthew wang yes, it's a simple set up and well designed, so much so that you could get a mild addiction to it due to it being a great reliable all rounder.

It is known as the ("tatonka kettle 2.5 litre") don't get it mixed up with the tatonka teapot 2.5 litre, they are both different designs.

Cheers. Finding stock of this stuff is like hens teeth at the moment.

Your welcome 👍

Mines lasted for years?

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty I have seen many destroyed burners. there is always water among the alcohol and the combustion of the fuel generates waste which together does its destruction.

@@JuhaAaltonen ok, cheers. I'll take that on board. 👍

Near the end of the video I explained that you can make a steamer with the frying pan slotted into the MSR seagull pot which the steam goes through the holes and into the frying pan with the MSR lid on top.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention, I have edited my introduction by reducing the volume by 10% with a fade in of 1/2 %. The future videos will be of this volume.

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty Thank you😇. Sure is good to know that you responded so quickly and modified the introduction sound levels. Much ♥️ from this side of the "pond".

It only seems bulky because the wind shield is solid not like a foldable shield that will fold down to the size of a fat envelope. People like it because it's simple, versatile, robust enough to last a lifetime, the gas isn't a blow torch type but that's because you can cook wet food on it without constantly stiring it and the bad weather won't over come it like a gas cooker. That's happened to me in the past, the rain got past the collapse wind shield and the gas went out because it got flooded and then never worked. I've used this cooker for 3 months solid and it never failed. But hey, each to his own.

I love mine

@@Andy-walkaboutnutty How is it versatile ? Do you enjoy the flavour of aluminium in your water from the cheapo kettle ? Do you enjoy the non-stick coating which is applied so thinly it comes off with little use..You can cook wet food on nearly any type of cooker better with much more control, and you need to stir it more on a trangia burner due to lack of heat control. As for the rest about the rain, absolute nonsense.

@@Chris66able your are talking complete shite.

@@Chris66able we get it you don’t like it, some of us really do. Taste of aluminum in your water? You must have very sensitive taste buds, as far as the nonstick some of us don’t like to spend the whole camping trip scrubbing, specially if you’re in the desert or the beach where availability of water is scarce. “ the cheap aluminum kettle “ “ cheap nonstick” bet you’re one of those Yeti guys. Lol