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Decepticons, attack! The evil faction of Magic’s new Universes Beyond Transformers cards are here to convert your battlefield into a full-on war zone. This episode, we lay out the synergies and combos each of these villainous robots brings to the table. Will one rise up as your next favorite double-faced commander? Come see for yourself!
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@platinumangel7446 Год назад

Important to remember with all the talk of equipment, that when the Transformers are in vehicle form equipment falls off on your opponent's turn. Same is true of Auras

@captshetz Год назад

4:27 post combat man phase. Truly, more than meets the eye.

@catbookworm6438 Год назад

Will there be an Extra Turns with the new Transformer commanders? Seeing them in action would be interesting!

@Toleezu6 Год назад

Starscream is a lot of fun. While being the Monarch is powerful, the players who will have the most fun with him are those that just want to stir chaos. Get your Coveted Jewels and your Jinxed Chokers and stress less about keeping monarch and more about your opponents beating each other bloody. Attacking to the right for Starscream's first hit can pass a lot of pain around without too much blame.

@ElmoTheRed Год назад

Soundwave is a Sony Walkman. Man I feel old when people don't recognize the object.

@ColorwaveCraftsCo Год назад

Same! 😂

@spencerschnur9426 Год назад

I am only in my 20''s I still knew it was a sony walkman

@Vidious808 Год назад

@spencerschnur9426 All is not lost! Good on you, my boy!

@geoffwilliams01 Год назад

Lol thought the same thing

@zippyspinifex Год назад

"looks like some sort of boombox" - people who missed out with no transformers in their childhood!

@OhNoTheFace Год назад

Effects like Slicer always makes me smile. Yay chaos. Had a smile on my face for that whole section

@kirkebel2194 Год назад

I have to say Slicer is a house. A friend of the playgroup built it, throwing a sword on this thing like fire and ice is devastating. Double strike and protection, it snowballs so fast.

@Jidayun Год назад

Starscream is a huge flavor win, because he always gets his plans foiled due to his own hubris, so instead of becoming the monarch, he ends up making someone else the monarch, his plan being foiled.

@thefiremind3800 Год назад

But it’s also the fact that he feigns loyalty to his leader, only to scheme and attempt to take the power away from them. Absolutely agree on the flavor win

@starmanda88 Год назад

I love that so much

@Jidayun Год назад

@@thefiremind3800 this guy gets it.

@smtyke Год назад

Oh how I miss Command Zone episodes that talked about other aspects of Commander, not just “Card Review from the Latest Set”. WotC is pumping out too many products.

@JackOropeza Месяц назад

This comment aged like 💩

@smtyke 29 дней назад

@@JackOropeza Unsure how it aged poorly when I was commenting on a trend at the time. Considering they've gone back to releasing episodes that weren't just set reviews, it's pretty good to see! But hey, glad you're engaging with the older content!

@travisbrandt8663 Год назад

Flamewar likes to WHEEL because its a motorcycle! 😅

@starmanda88 Год назад

Badum tshhh

@stevenkuykendall8673 Год назад

Another important thing about Slicer: His effect is a "May" ability, so you dont have to give him away once you're down to the 1V1, or if it just looks like a really bad turn for him to attack. If you don't you convert him and your equipment fall off, but there are plenty of times that it would be better to not give him away.

@chriscunningham6401 Год назад

Soundwave just need a lot of other token makers and X pump instant spells (to control damage dealt) and you'll be fine.

@Bladezeromus Год назад

Great. More product. Outstanding.

@0darkhero0 Год назад

I opened this just to state that I hate that these exist only as transformers

@lordgaming7717 Год назад

Megatron is incredibly fun, Protection Racket and Twight prophet do insane work in the deck!

@joshshin6819 Год назад

Soundwave is not a friggin SNES cartridge lol. He is a friggin dag gon Sony Walkman without the headphones! 🤣🤣🤣

@MasterVanoi Год назад

I built Slicer as soon as I heard this podcast

@GrizzneyGames Год назад

How did it play?

@MasterVanoi Год назад

@@GrizzneyGames pretty nasty, really need early game ramp and protection. Potential to finish games turn 4-5, if you don't you pretty much can't win.

@GrizzneyGames Год назад

@@MasterVanoi Good to know! Thank you!

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

You can put Yavimaya on your Slicer deck to get those forests 🙃

@eliadeinterlaced Год назад

where magic cards? :O

@Grimlock2183 Год назад

a cool card with starscream as well if you plan to run Glacial Chasm is uh S H E O L D R E D the new one of course

@shootercade1299 Год назад

for Blitzwing there is quietus spike a 3 colorless equipment that adds deathtouch and when creature deals damage that player loses half their life rounded up

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

Soundwave is disappointing... too easy to flip into robot mode and too hard to flip back into non-robot mode. Because let's face it: what we really wanted was for him to stay in boombox form so we could get tokens off every spell we cast. Sadly, the only way to constantly keep Soundwave in boombox form is to bounce and recast him.

@matthewhettel8316 Год назад

Cloudstone curio

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

@@matthewhettel8316 Cloudstone Curio doesn't work with artifacts, sadly. The cheapest reusable methods, I believe, are Crystal Shard, Vedalken Mastermind and Erratic Portal. Even then, you're spending another 1WUB to recast Soundwave.

@BingeThinker1814 Год назад

I've been tinkering with the deck quite a bit trying to force it to be viable, and I've found Grave Pact effects really good in Soundwave. You just need the best token generators. Bitterblossom, Shark Typhoon, Rabble Rousing, Grand Crescendo, Efficient Construction, Sai, Master Thopterist. You gotta meet Ravage and Laserbeak halfway. They can't do all the work transforming Soundwave back into the boombox. I think for mill, I just use Altar of the Brood, Psychic Corrosion, Mesmeric Orb, and Maddening Cacophony to fill opponents graveyards with spells for Soundwave to copy. Definitely a lot harder to build than I initially thought. It's so much hoops to jump though, but there is a sweet spot.

@rtvandle Год назад

10 bucks says a 15 player commander would see slicer take out 13 players

@patrickclement1269 Год назад

I now want either a Game Knights or Extra Turns with them using these commanders.

@JavierOrtizBultron Год назад

A transformers series would be great. With 14 to chose hopefully more than one game.

@cccEngineer Год назад

WotC is releasing sets so frequently I've lost interest. I just play with my old decks now. They've gone bat shit crazy.

@Sithplayer Год назад

Normally evil but Shattered Glass makes them Heroes

@parc_ Год назад

the Decepticons are the good guys if you have the non-80s cartoon art. thats the gimmick with the 'shattered glass' Decepticon = good, Autobot = bad.

@rmreagle Год назад

Also slicer is a may to give it away, you don't give him away when you're down to 1v1

@christianfender4734 Год назад

But there's also no way to get him BACK after you give him away. Let's say it's down to the last 3, one of your opponents is forced to swing Slicer with a bunch of equipments and kills your other opponent. Now it's the 1v1, they pass back to you, Slicer is still in their control. He'll also be very difficult to remove because you made him difficult to remove, unless you have a way like Toll Collector to now remove all those equipments on him. If it passes back to your opponent though (who you will recall is playing their own deck you have to answer on your turn as well as the threat you gave them) you're probably dead. Seems like it'll be tough to close games.

@DonaldPulsar 11 месяцев назад

"gains control slicer until end of turn"

@hanschristopherson8056 Год назад

When was the last time we had a non review episode of the podcast

@bashlindsay7618 Год назад

I want to build a deck around Megatron Tyrant. It would be awesome, putting Mishra, Claimed by Gix and Phyrexian Dragon Engine with Neheb the Eternal and some extra combat synergy in it

@F3A5T Год назад

Slicer seems super fun

@eskimoprime09 Год назад

You know what, I think I might build Slicer. I had a Karona the False God deck that I loaded with backgrounds, the goad enchantments, and swords and stuff. It sounds really good on paper, get a ton of value as Karona goes around the table. Few problems it had. Her making her rounds isn't optional, meaning I need to invest 8 or 9 mana in a single turn to play and goad her or else I'm dead before my next turn. She dies immediately to whatever sacrifice outlet unless I get Assault Suit. Slicer looks like he'll fix all of the problems Karona had. I can play him for 3 mana, which gives me time to beef him up, he goads himself and protects from being sacrificed which is amazing, and his effect is optional so I can keep certain players from having him if the situation arises. I'll just have to see if the color restriction bogs down the deck enough.

@tristanobrien261 Год назад

If you attack with starscream with first strike, and another creature without, you immediately take back monarch. Or just starscream with doublestrike

@danielphelps4540 Год назад

It would be interesting if you guys do a game of commander with the transformers as commanders.

@chomp2808 Год назад

My deck is now a transformer,40k,walking dead, Stranger things, Godzilla,my little pony tribal deck

@rmreagle Год назад

How about Reconnaissance for Soundwave to pull back unblocked attackers to get the just right dmg for the card you wanna cast if you would go over.

@danacoleman4007 Год назад

I love magic and I love the transformers, but I fail to see any reason they ever needed to cross paths. I realize they're doing it to make money, but who wanted this?

@nzephier Год назад

The way I see it, I didn't ask for this but screw it, I'll try it out. Via proxies. Lol

@JackOropeza Месяц назад

Caucasian-says-wut

@thomaslardinois6383 Месяц назад

I love my Blitzwing. :)

@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746 Год назад

The trailer for the new movie just dropped and to see this Is peak

@jorgeacevedo959 Год назад

Doesn't starscream give an opponent the monarchy when he etbs? I assume that's why they gave him haste, to immediately get the trigger when he deals damage that way, if not please someone explain him to me

@KingRorix Год назад

He has no etb effects. I think the haste is just so that he can immediately attack and get the monarchy into play.

@heath1948 Год назад

But people do play shadow in in unblock able creature decks. I know I do especially if they make sense and if they are cheap I am a budget player

@ingolf82 Год назад

it is backbreaking for Soundwave that it isn't equal to or less. The way he reads just makes him bad. Slicer is really cool. so are Bllitzwing and Starscream. as for the best transformer, I think Optimus Prime is the coolest because you can have all the Autobots in the deck, all but 2 because they are green and he's not. the Phrase you are looking for is "Decepticons retreat!" :P

@JohnDoe-vc5qb Год назад

Grim hireling kills with treasures because you're paying for a hit on something...

@LucasBuilds 10 месяцев назад

oh, I may need to try and build Slicer as a communism deck: it's red and your cards are everyone's cards.

@Reikosamaa Год назад

if i want to play all of the transformers cards in a single commander deck, any recommendations of what commander would be best to use?

@jhiggins85 Год назад

I'm running the new jodah for mine (he's unifying cybertron 🤣) a few has told me to run ramos as well

@WangFire Год назад

Prismatic Bridge for lore

@yegkingler Год назад

Morphon would be good since they are all robots.

@starmanda88 Год назад

The new jodah or if you play with people you know, possibly Golos ? That’s what rule zero is for after all!

@Flyboy245 Год назад

Seems like they were saying something along the lines of “this is a lot of hoops to jump through” for almost each of these cards

@olivierdebilde4292 Год назад

I can't tell for the others but Slicer really destroys casual table. The commander damage adds up very quickly, even if you do spread the love. It's insane. Stop this guy ASAP.

@SpottedZebra107 Год назад

As an Issac, I have answered to Ezekiel Isiah, and probably would have answered to Ichabod Crane if anyone said it

@coultonlaroach8467 Год назад

starsceam is mad fun

@OhNoTheFace Год назад

Being confused by the Starscream monarch thing means these guys never watched the show :(

@sebastianci5271 Год назад

Explain please

@alexlandsbergs 11 месяцев назад

@@sebastianci5271watch the show.

@john4151 Год назад

they didnt finish transforming blitzwing in tank form his body needs spun 180 so the jet exhaust is on his back not the front lmao

@truegrit2060 Год назад

(25:45) I'd argue that if the back side of Starscream is on the battlefield Monarch is already in play.🤔

@rontrezbeaugard8212 Год назад

Right on time for the release of the movie trailer

@halfblood3182 Год назад

SO with soundwave just run discard and mill cards then stealing be a lot easier so as you mill your opp out your also stealing thier cards

@PersevereWest Год назад

Gotta love the constant cash grab crossovers. Can’t wait for the Taco Bell set 🌮

@hybridyd1305 Год назад

I know. For me it ruins the oneness of what Magic is. The "My little pony" one was such b.s.

@bling4292 Год назад

@@hybridyd1305 MLP one was silver border. As all crossovers should be

@hybridyd1305 Год назад

@@bling4292 the crossovers have no meaning in MTG. If you wanna play little girl toys and transformers go for it. The rest of us will play the real game.

@DarkEinherjar Год назад

Extra turns are also the way to go with Cyclonus.

@G3NERALKHAOS Год назад

I’m still not understanding this game fully. I need someone to sit me down and explain it to me like I’m 6 lol

@REDMDavyd Год назад

I heard about an interesting interaction with Starscream where, if you give him first strike and then attack with him and another creature, assuming they both deal combat damage to the player, Starscream will give that player the monarch and then it will immediately go to you as the second creature hits (because it dealt damage to the monarch). I...don't know if that's GOOD, but it's a thing you can do. Also, the fact Starscream incentivizes you to take the monarch but transforms into a jet when you get attacked by a bunch of goons is one of the most flavorful things I've seen on a card in a long time. Really nailed the "wants to be the leader but is also a huge coward" thing.

@goofydragon8023 Год назад

Can't you stack the starscream trigger? So that if you attack with 2 creatures that deal damage, starscream deals damage first giving them the monarchy then the second creature hits and takes the monarchy for you.

@EliasSharkcia Год назад

No, damage happens instantly

@supernova9361 Год назад

Maybe with a double strike?

@goofydragon8023 Год назад

Then why does Kaalia with that demon that sets your health to 1 work

@KingRorix Год назад

@@goofydragon8023 Because Master of Cruelties (the demon you're referring to) has First Strike. So, when combat damage is dealt, Master of Cruelties will deal damage first, which triggers its ability and sets the defending player's life total to 1. Then, Kaalia will deal her (normal, non-first strike) damage next, finishing the player off.

@hpdre7437 Год назад

"Decepticons! Rise up!" is Megatron's opposite to "Autobots! Roll out!" It doesnt make any sense out of context to the lore.

@Flumpor Год назад

I honestly don't get the soundwave talk at all. You keep recommending cards for a go-wide token strategy and a Pyromancer strategy and at the same time you keep saying why it doesn't work. The Card itself however is not bad at all. It makes a strong evasive flier or 2 for 1 machine, that enables the front half by itself. You are mainly trying to play an esper control strategy with a beneficial value engine in the command zone.

@bloodblade487 Год назад

I hate this crossover tbh

@XaldinOfWind Год назад

Just curious you guys haven't done one on ultra Magnus technician have you

@JordanPridgen Год назад

He was included in the autobots episode!

@TheUlisseys Год назад

anyone trying to combine all the transformers and pain bow precon? Let me know

@l0u13__3 Год назад

That starscream EDH isn’t a deck it’s bad comedy

@nickclemitus4598 Год назад

Just like starscream

@darkrexkigntstone8773 Год назад

Is that you megatron?

@ilyaginsburg1888 Год назад

You have seriously underestimated Shockwave. Getting a 3/3 token just for casting 1-mana spell is very strong, and there are lot of Thopters to control his ability. You have completely missed the political aspect! "Let me hit you for 1, and I will cast your Swords to Plowshares at that BIG BAD creature!"

@nathaniellazo5912 Год назад

Decepticons are the way to roll!!

@obadijahparks Год назад

How is starscream my favorite?...

@Karste1n Год назад

Always love seeing Jamie

@heath1948 Год назад

To the people that are disparaging them reviewing this they’re not “Schilling for wizards of the Coast they’re just reviewing a product and giving their opinion

@cccEngineer Год назад

They technically are by using their platform and giving it a bigger presence.

@heath1948 Год назад

@@cccEngineer at the same time you can choose to use it or not as commander, or in the 99 as you wish it’s called rule zero

@heath1948 Год назад

@@cccEngineer like I would, even if I could afford them personally never use any of the walking dead cards but once again, that is my personal choice and my personal rule zero

@starmanda88 Год назад

They are shilling but that’s ok. People gotta get that bag. I would never begrudge them for working with WOTC and advertising products. I don’t go to them for anti WOTC sentiments I go to other channels like professor or a hundred others.

@kylarcheng1346 Год назад

24:18 also you get to say sharting

@justinmm2 Год назад

Is it fair to assume Slicer will go around the table every time? When you pass him to another player, that player becomes the controller, and the pass ability is a "may". So if Alice owns and plays it, and then passes the turn to Bob, she can give it to Bob. When it becomes Carol's turn, Bob can choose not to give it to her. At that point, it gets converted and goes back to Alice as a result of the flip (I think; if I'm wrong, that just means it stays with Bob). So Alice won't be able to give it away again until Dave's turn.. right?

@SP-ik6cc Год назад

No its actually you every time who will decide to hand Slicer over to the opponent as they only keep control of him until end of turn, after that he returns to you and then at the next players upkeep you can decide to hand it over to that player now.

@justinmm2 Год назад

@@SP-ik6cc Ah right, I glossed over the "until end of turn". Good catch, thanks!

@the_worlds_enemy Год назад

Decepticons MOBILIZE!

@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746 Год назад

No "Decepticons transform and TERRORIZE"

@seymour47 Год назад

Imagine an episode when they actually talk about commander and not just what is new. Even better, imagine an episode where they don't also talk about these absolute abominations of cross over IP cards. The Command Zone was at a time one of the best places on RU-vid for EDH info. It's truly not even worth the effort of watching at this point. And that's not even counting the 10-15 minutes of commercials and ad content they have in every episode now.

@nicka.9057 Год назад

Cry harder

@aaron3905 Год назад

I opened a collector booster yesterday and my transformer wasn't shattered glass, feelsbadman.

@Chris-Collectible Год назад

Slicer is autobot not a darn decepticon

@bashlindsay7618 Год назад

Maybe a Game Knights Episode with these Transformer cards. Would be awesome to see the animations they would do for them

@zachariahdenzine1107 Год назад

I ordered cards and for some reason it’s saying I don’t have order history on my account. This is from card kingdom

@seymour47 Год назад

Well, you're DEFINITELY going to get help from customer service by stating that here in the youtube comments of a random commander video.

@zachariahdenzine1107 Год назад

We’ll messaging the RU-vid page that is sponsored and shops there so much and tells us they trust them with ordering cards. Might have some insight in how the site works, thanks tho

@vixenofthedead Год назад

i hate it

@vbjr5930 Год назад

Ive left magic, sold everything of value. The game has become dogwater. It sucks cause good guys like you will suffer due to the suits in the ivory tower. I hope FAB gets alot of mtg players attention, i wanted to pass MTG down to my kids but now i think ill just take them hiking haha. all love to the GK crew wish yall nothing but the best.

@lukephillips5980 Год назад

First !

@kargnak Год назад

What trash cards. It's one thing to do crossovers sparingly, but when you start comboing crossover cards with other crossover cards it starts to look like Hasbro the Gathering with a few magic cards mixed in. I can't wait for the secret lairs where they make "Barbie, Anorexic Home Owner" and "Ken, But Actually A GI Joe" as exclusive commanders for $100 each. I hate this game. -.-

@kennythereaver1 Год назад

who the F is this guy? what happened to this show?

@AgentArcadia Год назад

Dude where have you been for years? Almost like they have different people on this podcast. You're not the one who's talentedenough to talk about MtG on the internet and be paid for it so I think you need to chill tf out