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TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on THE MARVEL COMIC 

Chris McFeely
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As Doctor Strange enters the Multiverse of Madness, it's time for us to finally look back on the days when the Transformers were part of the Marvel Multiverse as well, in The Basics on the original Marvel Transformers comic book!
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@bilal_Hadjlaoui907
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 года назад
"Offlined by cosmically-powerd-starscream","offlined by decepticon clone of optimus prime",one of the most memorable catchphrases ever
@natek4488
@natek4488 2 года назад
At this point, it's pretty much a running gag in this series
@steelebrothers6096
@steelebrothers6096 2 года назад
I completely agree with you
@TheRealHiboman
@TheRealHiboman 2 года назад
Don’t forget my favorite: “beast flesh and transformer metal fused at the cellular level”
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 года назад
@King Crab he even offlined a decepticon members like the seacons
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 года назад
@King Crab but in the collectors club sequel to the Marvel comics,they back to life and get a power up repaint (this version of the seacons was supposed to be a part of the energon toyline,but its released as a collectors club toy)
@miffedakko9312
@miffedakko9312 2 года назад
One of my art teachers, Kim DeMulder, was the first artist to ink the marvel comics. He only inked the first 3 issues because he thought it was way too hard to consistently shade the metal on the characters. He told me he regretted it immediately because he actually got payed way more than any other comic he's ever worked on.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 2 года назад
That's cool
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 2 года назад
Nice.
@WhatDillionYT
@WhatDillionYT 7 месяцев назад
Awesome
@user-du2iu8zz7k
@user-du2iu8zz7k 2 месяца назад
If he had a time machine, I bet he would go back and change that decision.
@garyphillips3406
@garyphillips3406 2 года назад
I loved the final cover saying "Issue 80 in a 4 issue limited series".
@HughMcKinney
@HughMcKinney 2 года назад
The comics are MY G1. I liked the cartoon, but obsessed over the comics and read them over and over. To this day I am astounded at what Hasbro let Bob Budiansky get away with. In 1985, when Transformers were at arguably the peak of their mainstream popularity (during G1 at least), Budiansky spent months telling a story where all but one Autobot was dead and Megatron was reduced to Shockwave's lackey. It's bold as hell for a comic whose ostensible purpose was to sell toys.
@silverthorn9759
@silverthorn9759 2 года назад
I agree about the comics being my G1.
@TAURON85
@TAURON85 2 года назад
Dude, Shockwave being on par with Megs and even surpassing him occasionally was a welcomed thing, oppose to the puss he was in the toons. No doubt that Marvel comics was/is the peak of the Transformers franchise.
@Halbared
@Halbared 2 года назад
the rivalry of Shockwave (and he was drawn) and Meg's was a highlight for me in the early days.
@seantaylor424
@seantaylor424 Год назад
From what I've heard of commentary for G.I. Joe episodes from the 80's, Hasbro was surprisingly lenient towards their writers. Toys came and went but, as far as what kind of stories the writers wanted to tell and how they wanted to characterize people, Buzz Dixon said Hasbro let them do whatever they want. Very glad to hear it, since things like the Marvel Transformers comics are always a blast to hear about and I love me some Bludgeon.
@user-du2iu8zz7k
@user-du2iu8zz7k 2 месяца назад
That’s how you know he and simon furman are writer, they raise the stakes, and I’m not talking about meat.
@clogs4956
@clogs4956 2 года назад
Let us all thank Bob Budianski and Simon Furman for their skill, inspiration and creativity which gave us the foundation on which so much more has been built.
@MartyTwelves
@MartyTwelves 2 года назад
The Marvel series has always been my preferred version of Transformers. It swung from Saturday morning cartoon wackiness to epic adventures, and I love all of it.
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster 2 года назад
I can't imagine how one must've been to go from a series with something as cheesy and B-Movieish as the "Carwash of Doom", (Which I have a softspot for), To then get something as Biblically Awesome as *_"THE CHILDREN OF THE GOD OF LIGHT, PRIMUS, FENDER OF THE DARK GOD, UNICRON-"_*
@arnahunas4048
@arnahunas4048 2 года назад
That Shockwave cover is one of the hardest pieces of comic art ever.
@kyledamron
@kyledamron Год назад
Definitely my favorite. Like it so much got a t-shirt of it
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 2 года назад
The cover of #5 is one of the best comic covers of all time. Not just TF comics, ANY comics. That cover was my first exposure to Transformers: I'd never heard of them before I saw that issue in a grocery store newsstand when I was 8, and I was immediately pulled in: Who are the Transformers, why are they all dead, and who killed them? Suffice to say I was hooked after reading it, and when the cartoon came along later I went full-on superfan. The Marvel versions of so many characters are my favorite versions of all time: Ratchet, Blaster, Shockwave, Ratbat, Scorponok, Fortress Maximus, (Powermaster) Optimus Prime, Grimlock, Thunderwing, Galvatron...all of these characters, the versions I think of first are the Marvel versions. Especially Blaster...in the cartoon he was just The Other Jazz. To me the Marvel comic is the definitive G1 experience: It's written better than the cartoon, it came before the cartoon, and most of the lore we take for granted in the franchise began there (Primus, Unicron's origin, etc.). And if you factor in the UK stories, it gets even better. That it kept going for years after the cartoon ended is a plus. The cartoon may be better known, but to me the Marvel book is THE G1 continuity. Plus Black Helmet Yellow Eyes Megatron and Marvel UK colors Galvatron > their Sunbow colors. Andrew Wildman/Stephen Baskerville's art was very formative to my own early art: I loved how damage a character had in one issue would be consistently drawn even several issues later, and Geoff Senior could convey movement and momentum better than anyone. Those two remain my favorite TF comic artists even to this day, though I love most of the modern artists as well (Alex Milne and Casey Coller especially).
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907
@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 года назад
the fact that most of the characters profilres that written by bob budiansky was ignored by the g1 cartoon,make it even funnier
@chocobosage
@chocobosage 2 года назад
The Unicron arc was amazing and DeathsHead quickly became my favourite character. I still hope he gets his own show or movie one day, such an amazing character and just the way he speaks haha
@MeuchelArren
@MeuchelArren 2 года назад
The marvel comics have always been intriguing to me because for at first glance it seems the cartoon is what later media based everything off of yet a lot of elements (shockwave, matrix, primus, war games, ect.) actually come from the comics
@Wolfie1262
@Wolfie1262 2 года назад
And if you pay attention, Beast Wars using bits of both the cartoon and the comics in its world building
@musicfighter282
@musicfighter282 2 года назад
It should be mentioned that the Creation Matrix as Budiansky originally envisioned it was quite different from what the Matrix of Leadership would end up solidified as, even looping around and retconning itself within the comic.
@pious83
@pious83 2 года назад
@@musicfighter282 Exactly. The Creation Matrix is more a program for creating new Transformers. It was an interesting concept in itself.
@chheinrich8486
@chheinrich8486 2 года назад
Simon furman deserves a basics episode of his own along side Peter cullen and Frank welker
@ryanmatthews3609
@ryanmatthews3609 Год назад
and bob Budinsky.
@wreday720
@wreday720 2 года назад
Man the Marvel comics were like a massive epic. I feel like the comics had the better stories while the cartoon had the better characterisations (probably because of the voices). So many moving parts, characters, worlds, it felt huge and like an actual war with different fronts like earth, the headmasters, the future era characters, earthforce, the cybertron war, constantly changing leaders, the wreckers etc. There were a few periods where it dragged and felt weird, but everything from Underbase onwards was incredible. It just got darker and darker as things went on too. The matrix quest and Unicron sagas, just amazing. And wow, dont even start with the UK stories, so many sidestories and twists, the concepts from the movie being played with heavily (you can tell Furman loved it) and really fleshing out the 2006 cast. Target 2006 was the GOAT This feels like the real G1, and in a way the '86 movie feels more connected to the comics in tone and story than the cartoon. Cartoon had so much going for it, but ultimately it has more lows than highs. Plus the comics were one of the only pieces of media that actually did the "robots in disguise" gimmick, not even the toon did that, and having tension between humans and transformers, it just felt so real Its such a damn shame people focus less on it, it deserves some kind of animated adaptation or something
@chriscox3227
@chriscox3227 2 года назад
Yes to an animated adaption! Like the 90s X-Men cartoon did! Never thought of that, but now would love to see it made!
@HappyBirthdayRoboto
@HappyBirthdayRoboto 2 года назад
When I was a boy Simon Furman's comics were the first I ever read for myself (instead of my parents reading Super Friends to me) and not only did it make me fall in love with comics but also science fiction and serialised storytelling in general. Many years later I got to meet Simon Furman and I told him he's the reason I read books.
@verzieditz
@verzieditz 2 года назад
I was at free comic book day today and had the honor of meeting Jim Shooter. he basically gave me a Basics episode of his own, but was so cool to hear the story of how he created the basic fundamental story ideas for the comics
@saorlathesurly
@saorlathesurly 2 года назад
Something I've noticed about geewunners who love to go off about the seniority of the cartoon; they're incredibly quick to write off these comics, even though they're literally the very first piece of Transformers media.
@tomnagy3010
@tomnagy3010 2 года назад
Not to mention the superior storytelling. The cartoon is just a toy commercial.
@sdm47
@sdm47 4 месяца назад
@@tomnagy3010 Well not really. When you watch the cartoon you can tell that the people working on it cared a lot more than they had to But yeah the elitism shit is a problem
@MellowGaming
@MellowGaming 2 года назад
Man, the Unicron saga in the comics was proper epic stuff as a kid. Felt huge and the following issues were such a memorable conclusion. Did set me up with the expectation that comics do have endings though which good lord modern comics could do with from time to time.
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 2 года назад
Only manga have actual endings nowadays, lol.
@Firebrand128
@Firebrand128 2 года назад
I honestly had no idea the UK Transformers comics were so influential, not only to Transformers but to UK comic writers as well. Really eye opening.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 2 года назад
TFUK was the best.
@paulgraham4567
@paulgraham4567 2 года назад
@@jackdubz4247 Still the best.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 2 года назад
@@paulgraham4567 Indeed.
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet 2 года назад
More than meets the eye opening?
@Halbared
@Halbared 2 года назад
@@jackdubz4247 I concur!
@Soundout12
@Soundout12 2 года назад
The G1 Marvel comics are honestly my favorite piece of fiction in Transformers. I just love the storytelling
@kyledamron
@kyledamron Год назад
Could not agree more
@rexemuwu
@rexemuwu 2 года назад
Marvel Blaster is my favorite version of Blaster. dude is the only Autobot who had balls to tell Grimlock that his leadership kinda sucks lol.
@osenator
@osenator 2 года назад
Still have all my complete original series, including G2. My name is in issue 62, I think. I was first on the Canadian list of people whom named all Autobots correctly from a earlier comic in a big Panel splash, with all Earth Autobots.... Sadly, didn't win any prizes, only to USA residents.... PS, Geoff Senior was my very favorite artist ever !
@gamerbear84
@gamerbear84 2 года назад
As the cartoon never aired on non-cable TV here, the comic was my main touchstone to the franchise narrative. I still have a good bit of the run tucked away somewhere and they were a major part of my childhood.
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 2 года назад
Simon Furman's win on the main line series was amazing. I think the last 20 issues of the first series were remarkable. The lead-up to the coming of Unicron was better than anything the cartoon series came up with.
@kingmarshmellow12
@kingmarshmellow12 2 года назад
Titan Books’ republication of Target: 2006 was my first, real introduction into Transformers, and has been my favourite storyline since! It’s great to see the influential story referenced on such an influential channel!
@roclockdown3987
@roclockdown3987 2 года назад
Love the Wreckers! Gotta appreciate the Marvel stories for making them happen.
@Rodsuper
@Rodsuper 2 года назад
The series on the Scraplets was always my favorite from the US Marvel. Great piece of TFs Marvels comics.
@nilesbrook4216
@nilesbrook4216 2 года назад
When Marvel decided the Transformers comic would not be part of Earth-616 it was given the designation Earth-91274 after the birthday of Marvel staff artist Nelson Ribeiro, who is a Transformers SUPER-Fan (and who also happens to be me!) Now you know, and knowing is half the … Ooh, sorry. Wrong franchise.
@gavichealsomething2169
@gavichealsomething2169 2 года назад
I mean,didnt they use that same line in some of the Transformers PSAs?
@MojoTheClown
@MojoTheClown 2 года назад
The Marvel comic was a huge influence on me, and remains so to this day. Marvel Scorponok is my all-time favorite Decepticon, and the Marvel versions of Grimlock, Ratchet, Shockwave, and Thunderwing remain the definitive versions to me.
@robertespley248
@robertespley248 2 года назад
Ah the happy memories of reading the old Marvel UK comics, such epic storyline and perhaps Ultra Magnus's most epic baddass moment ever (fire on the mountain) . Simon Furman & Andrew Wildman deserve a spotlight all of their own
@Hektols
@Hektols 2 года назад
I found really hilarious the comic where Megatron was stuck in gun form, it showed how useless it was an alternate form that required others to work, the only useful thing he could do with it was to travel in the cabin of one the Decepticon jets.
@dinosoid2000
@dinosoid2000 2 года назад
It also had a cameo by Nick Fury and a vague reference to the events of Marvel's Godzilla comics.
@PhantomHarlock78
@PhantomHarlock78 2 года назад
The first two years of Marvel Comics are amazing. Transformers in their pure form, with a lot of plot points. Shockwave behind the scenes, the human interactions, Autobots and Decepticons trying to use the Earth technology. And, different from the cartoons, the Autubots were always in the brink of defeat, having a hard time every issue.
@samanthaadams619
@samanthaadams619 2 года назад
The Transformers were a large part of my childhood, and continued well into my teen years. There were some wonderful stories in the series. "Return to Cybertron" is my all time favourite 2-parter, and I feel it had a certain magic to it, showing visions of a dystopian Cybertron, as well as the follow up in which Omega Supreme is introduced. I'd even go as far as the say the 85 - 86 period was a Golden Age of sorts. I also liked Skids spotlight issue where he is alive and well, and spending time with the girl that liked westerns. I also liked the one where Skids, Tracks and the others were introduced, and they foiled a Decepticon plot at a "Brick Springhorn" concert.
@robotlorekeeper9880
@robotlorekeeper9880 2 года назад
Honestly, this is one of the most helpful basics to date for me, I’ve been looking forward to it ever since it was announced. Even as someone who’s been a die-hard fan a couple of years now, I still didn’t fully understand what was going on with the UK-original stuff and Earthforce- a lot of longer-time fans talk about it as though everyone already gets it, or they over-exaggerate how confusing it is, so I was kind of scared to even look. This series is always incredibly good but every so often it just inarguably knocks it out of the park, and this is one of those times. Thank u mr mcfeel
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 2 года назад
The UK comic is still kind of confusing, but I guess it's retroactively an alternate timeline.
@GluttonyReaper
@GluttonyReaper 2 года назад
Totally agree, I've always been reluctant to even *try* reading any of the marvel stuff until now, this is the only place I've ever seen it properly spelled out like this!
@ExaggeratedElegy
@ExaggeratedElegy 2 года назад
Ah, my entry point into the franchise! A little later on than some, of course, but I do recall my earliest exposure to the Transformers was the comics and annuals. Have distinct memories of the early Time War stuff, in particular being freaked out by Megatron tearing off Cyclonus's head via his bunny ears.
@vustvaleo8068
@vustvaleo8068 2 года назад
meanwhile in an alternate timeline we have the Autobots and the G.I.Joes joining the fight against Thanos in the Avengers movies, lol.
@spaceknight074
@spaceknight074 2 года назад
Oh my this is the epic story telling i mention when speaking about transformers lore, I mean Time Wars, Space Pirates and my personal favourite Target 2006, which is where i began my appreciation of Ultra Mangus. I mean these run of comics were amazing, Grimlock's tyrannical leadership of he autobots, The many changing of leadership of the decepticons (i mean who else could make Ratbat look like a leader....come on, but it worked). my favouraite combiner The Predacons were from this very comic, Razorclaw being my personal favourite. So much here......ahhhhh, good job with the video
@society7394
@society7394 2 года назад
as grateful as I am that Transformers moved over to dreamwave and idw, I'd still be really interested to know what the world would be like where the Transformers stayed in the Marvel Universe
@Loremastrful
@Loremastrful 2 года назад
Kate Bishop helps Bumblebee stop an alliance between the coneheads and the Kingpin. Or Venom takes over a Decpticon bounty hunter and becomes the first pretender.
@boastfulman-fish5524
@boastfulman-fish5524 2 года назад
@@Loremastrful marvels next summer crossover event "death and TAXES" where TAXES stands for transformers v avengers v X-Men v externals v Spider-Man.
@visionaryventures12
@visionaryventures12 2 года назад
I liked the final issue saying #80 in a four issue limited series.
@michaellombardi1620
@michaellombardi1620 2 года назад
My childhood! Australia got both the US and UK comic! Good times
@anotherrandommegaman2345
@anotherrandommegaman2345 2 года назад
Really need to get back to finishing these comics. It's interesting to see more of the nuances between how a franchise was exposed between the US & UK.
@brandonandcharlene9527
@brandonandcharlene9527 2 года назад
It's hard to believe it's been 38 years. But 8 year old me remembers that first Marvel Comic TV commercial like it was yesterday. " Hey look they copied Go Bots" 😂. And while I've always preferred the animated series to the comics, I'll never forget that first commercial.
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 года назад
The comics are what I grew up with. I didn't watch the entire cartoon until many years later. The comics have much more mature storylines but a few of them are still ridiculous.
@clogs4956
@clogs4956 2 года назад
Yes, but admit it - you like the Mecannibals 😉
@Grimlock1979
@Grimlock1979 2 года назад
@@clogs4956 Sure, why not.
@Karnage316
@Karnage316 2 года назад
Used to get the comics as a kid, and reading Space Pirates and Time Wars for the first time stood out for me - one of the few Transformers covers I remembered when thinking back to them much later on was Galvatron standing on the pile of Autobots and Decepticons. When I re-read one of the annuals recently, the story of the death of the last Decepticon was a good one too!
@musicfighter282
@musicfighter282 2 года назад
I was a bit of a late bloomer coming into the TF fandom (I really got my start with the first live action film when I was 17). When looking for foundational TF media, I happened upon an ebay auction for the complete set of Titan paperbacks reprinting the US Marvel series. It was sometimes extremely hokey, but I fell in love. I later read the UK series through… means…. And enjoyed that so much that I eventually embarked on a quest to collect every UK issue and annual, and have them custom hard bound. Those books are now the crown jewel of my collection.
@kennethchia4194
@kennethchia4194 2 года назад
As someone who moved from the United States to England for two years in 1985, I got to see how the British comic developed firsthand. IIRC, in the biweekly issues some of the pages were in black and white, which also threw me for a loop.
@Kryojenix
@Kryojenix 2 года назад
Geez - reading the letters to the editor in the US comic you'd think the Primus origin story in the US version was a new idea. We really had no idea and were a totally segmented and captive audience, hey? ... I think I learned the word "geez" from TF comics ...
@SwordInTheStorm
@SwordInTheStorm 2 года назад
I remember getting issue 1 of the Uk comic It came with free rub on transfers soon after I was getting the comic delivered to my door, my favourite stories have always been the the UK originals Like Target 2006 and The cover Image with Galvatron Astride Ultra Magnus is one of my favourite Covers ever.
@mellowshade
@mellowshade 2 года назад
Thinking on it I wonder if my enthusiasm for Transformers would have been sustained through my teens without the Marvel UK comic. The continuous excitement for the next issue maintained my enthusiasm and I still make time to regularly re-read the series.
@Badwolfwho1
@Badwolfwho1 2 года назад
Ah Cosmically Powered Starscream, above all else I'll be thankful to the Marvel comics for introducing that recurring beat for various Starscreams to hit. I also absolutely love fuel auditor Ratbat as leader of the Decepticons that's great fun
@robbiewabisabi
@robbiewabisabi 2 года назад
The marvel comic was absolutely essential to me as a young fan, and the stories went from pretty standard to absolutely epic in short order. I was particularly excited about the generation 2 series, as I feel it was a high water mark in both story telling and artwork. This was a solid overview, but the comics should really be read in their entirety to savor the magic.
@LogosMinor
@LogosMinor 2 года назад
As a kid in the early 2000s the Titan reprints were my first exposure to Marvel Generation 1. While not my favorite iteration of the franchise, there's no denying it's significance and I've enjoyed some of the modern stories set in the universe like Regeneration 1 and '84 (that sweet, sweet Guido Guidi art man). Another great episode as always!
@tomnagy3010
@tomnagy3010 2 года назад
Yes! Guidi is the best TF artist EVER!
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster
@Mekboy_ComputerMonster 2 года назад
Im pretty sure Guido and Don get into Cosmically Proportionate Wrestling Matches over who is the best TF Artist
@BillRicksonOne
@BillRicksonOne 2 года назад
Transformers #30 was the first comic I ever got. I was 10 yo and sick, stuck in bed. I read it a million times and still have it. I became a regular reader at issue # 37. A couple years later, I ordered #1-4 from some U.S. back issue reseller that advertised in the pages of the comic itself. #1 is the newsstand edition and is in great shape and remains one of my most treasured comics. (I bought the first 15 issues of Batman Adventures when it came out because I liked the cartoon and #12 is the most valuable book I've got.)
@EvilLobsterKing
@EvilLobsterKing 2 года назад
I've just started getting into some of the IDW comics, but it's cool to learn the history of where it all began
@TheYoungDoctor
@TheYoungDoctor 2 года назад
My cousin gave me issue one of the UK comic although I didn't start collecting until issue 45. It not only got me into Transformers but also comics, writing and drawing. It will always be my favourite Transformers continuity.
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 2 года назад
Ah, I remember the Marvel run. Not as it came out, but in boxes of second-hand comics, mixed in with Excalibur and all four issues of Rocket Raccoon. I also remember when I attempted to subscribe to the Generation 2 line, only to receive the first issue of Generation X! Which as a fan of the X-men at the time, wasn't a *BAD* thing, but being pre-internet days it took me a few months to realize that I had missed the Gen 2 run completely. ¡_¡
@brennandodge9953
@brennandodge9953 2 года назад
Excited to see the history behind the deadly “cosmically-powered Starscream”
@ProfDragonite
@ProfDragonite 2 года назад
The relationship between the US and UK comics kinda reminds me of how filler arcs in anime adaptations are made when they run out of manga to adapt. Especially the part where the anime can become its own thing when they have enough original material.
@krank23
@krank23 2 года назад
The Marvel comics were always the "true" Transformers stories for me. They were the ones I came into contact with first, and had the most reliable access to. And today, I definitely feel those stories hold up better than the cartoon. The cartoon's stories feel less developed and a lot less mature - understandable, as it was targeted at a younger audience. The comic got pretty dark and serious at times, and I loved that. It's just too bad current reprints are so horribly bad. Especially for the earlier issues, where it seems they've used some sort of really bad AI filter or something, that completely eliminates a lot of the detail of the original comic. I strongly recommend looking up the Titan Books reprints for anyone who wants good reproductions of the old issues; they were much more careful in preserving details etc.
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 2 года назад
Agreed, that's why I prefer the comic over the cartoon as well.
@Kickback-dm7zt
@Kickback-dm7zt 2 года назад
@@ltb1345 cartoon for me with the exception of the 10 part story "Target 2006"...if you haven't read it I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. it is darker and more gritty style to both the writing and art work.
@zacharyjochumsen9677
@zacharyjochumsen9677 2 года назад
@@ltb1345 and I found a in issues under my granpas culborc and I was like wait a second transfomers was from a comic book huh and it was random bet up issue whre transfomers wre in the wokds trying to hunt a deception strike force
@Hektols
@Hektols 2 года назад
I had the theory that the cartoon existed within the comic universe, created by the Autobots' allies as propaganda to get accepted by the population.
@Sbungo61
@Sbungo61 2 года назад
I mean, in the cartoon Megatron literally disassembled Optimus laughed at his still alive head. Also, the transformers being originally factory products to be sold is quite dark for a cartoon, and definitely darker than the comic's origin
@DrPoth
@DrPoth 2 года назад
I grew up reading the UK comic, starting around issue 200 or so, thus missing around two thirds of the stories, but the stuff I did get to read by Furman was amazing and still holds up to this day as an adult. Plus all my issues are sat in the attic still!
@THANATOS-PRIME
@THANATOS-PRIME 2 года назад
I was a little kid my dad gave me an old beat of comic and it was the one that showed Optimus Prime’s body exploding. I absolutely loved it and it was my first introduction to many generation one characters such as Bombshell and Rat Bat.
@RoboP
@RoboP 2 года назад
A thing I would've added is with the Marvel run stuff. You touched on G2 after the end of the Marvel G1 runs, you did bring up the GI Joe Crossover earlier. But no mention of the small few issues that DIRECTLY lead in to events of the Transformers G2 comic?? Like namely Megatron getting rebuilt in to his Tank form Incarnation with Cobra tech. A couple of Autobots dying trying to fight him ect.
@jamesianhutchison1165
@jamesianhutchison1165 2 года назад
Distant Thunder. Superb bit of writing that really cemented Prime's character and nobility for me as a kid. Can't remember the name of the story, but the one where a Decepticon scientist winds up creating a zombie army always springs to mind. The artists (particularly in the UK comics) *really* took advantage of the Transformers not being "flesh and blood". Those zombies got brutalised. 😅
@Kryojenix
@Kryojenix 2 года назад
11:38 Just a job for Budiansky, but he's the one who gave us the basic character and characterisations of Optimus Prime, Megatron and others, no? 12:04 Today's most wha-? I wish I could keep up!
@BPRDagent
@BPRDagent 2 года назад
Back in the days when having 50p felt like you could buy up most the newsagents.
@Stewart118Tyler
@Stewart118Tyler 2 года назад
Thanks for this one!! Made me legitimately smile. The very first comic book I ever owned was Transformers issue #3. My Dad got it for me one Saturday afternoon. Walking down Jamaica Avenue we walked into Woolworth and when I saw that cover of Spiderman fighting Megatron, fell in love and have been ever since. Great episode!!
@djbarnette4871
@djbarnette4871 2 года назад
I got into transformers thanks to beast wars but my dad grew up watching the '80s cartoon and reading the marvel comic book and would often tell me about the toys and the stories from both which prompt me when I was older to look at the comic issues that he had collected when he was young. I thought it was so cool to see Spider-Man in an issue of transformers
@Mecha82
@Mecha82 2 года назад
In here we got US version translated and I loved reading those stories back as kid. I still have fond memories about reading Marvel run even if I have been soured to Simon Furman and his writing.
@jasonwolf3591
@jasonwolf3591 2 года назад
As a kid I would be given random comics from time to time so my first issue was the Skullgrin spotlight issue Monster on from Mars. I didn't actually get interested in comics for a few more years so the first issue I got myself was #74 and that fullpage Unicron blew me away. I had to get the next one and #75 was probably the most apocalypticly beautiful things I had ever read. I went on to get Generation 2 as well. I have all 100 Marvel US comics (including minis, tie INS, and crossovers) in a small comics box in my closet to this day.
@risel56
@risel56 2 года назад
While I never got into the Marvel Transformers comics, I've always been fascinated by Death's Head as a character ever since I found out about him, and part of me kinda hopes he'll show up on The Basics in the near future. He'd be a shoe-in for his own Obscure Characters Month episode, yes?
@martl8615
@martl8615 2 года назад
There's enough on Death's Head to make a miniseries. I love that he encountered Dr. Who, which means that The Doctor shares the universe with the likes of the X-Men.
@TF-MP-Stop-Motion
@TF-MP-Stop-Motion 2 года назад
For as much attention as the cartoon gets, the comic was arguably more influential on the franchise, as this video makes obvious! I appreciate you spelling out the changes that happened in the UK line towards the end!
@stephenhumphreys9149
@stephenhumphreys9149 2 года назад
I remember reading 'Man of Iron' back when it came out, and I agree - 'Haunting' is the word for it. That particular story always stuck in my memory, although some of the others like 'Dinobot Hunt' were also big favourites of mine.
@UnamusedClerk
@UnamusedClerk 2 года назад
The Marvel comic (or rather the Swedish translation of it) was my primary entry point into the fandom. Not having cable growing up there were only a few scattered episodes of the cartoon available, so the Marvel continuity is the original one for me. And it made me a devoted Ratchet fan.
@bjscorpio4041
@bjscorpio4041 2 года назад
I remember when the first Bayformers movie came out and the guys at work were discussing how there could be a sequel without Megatron. I replied by saying "well you can have Shockwave, Starscream, Straxis, Ratbat, Scorponok, Galvatron, Thunderwing, and Bludgeon lead the Decepticons."
@kemra102
@kemra102 2 года назад
Awesome video as always. After seeing someone's complete US comic run recently I'm tempted to embark on the insane task of a complete UK run...
@robstein1313
@robstein1313 2 года назад
As a kid I found the Marvel comics really inconsistent and strange, but as an adult that’s exactly what I like most about them (it’s very playful and imaginative, not afraid to be silly, surreal… campy! And it even lets the creators be gross and terrifying… there’s a lot of body horror or really terrifying concepts… cosmic horror and that fusion of megaton, etc).
@camcordernonsense5264
@camcordernonsense5264 10 месяцев назад
me too. i didnt get they were doing their own thing and was disappointed reading them until around 86. my mind was fixed in the show's world. now i want all of them!
@MikhailSamunin
@MikhailSamunin 2 года назад
8:18 I read U.S. issue 50, and, though it wasn't the most jaw-dropping experience, it defifinitely delivered a memorable feel of reading pages of non-stopping deaths that included quite a few familiar transformer names all while I was listening to Igor Korneluk's "Woland".
@NightmareZerogbs
@NightmareZerogbs 2 года назад
It's always fascinating to see the origins of the franchise. Imagine if Marvel was still at the helm of Transformers...
@Shortpacked
@Shortpacked 2 года назад
Personally my favorite part of the Marvel Comics is when everyone was offlined by a cosmically-powered Starscream.
@maxbrandt6
@maxbrandt6 2 года назад
I remember trying to read as many of the original issues back in the 80s as I could, I really enjoyed the one issue that had Rachet the only one left to stand up against Megatron. I've never read any of the UK TF stories, it's time I fixed that!
@Brickerbrack
@Brickerbrack 2 года назад
I still have the majority of the original UK run, missing, as it happens, 32 issues by my reckoning. Sure, some of them are a bit dog-eared (especially the ones which came with free gifts _stuck to the front),_ but for 35+ year old comics, they've done pretty well. 🙂 My prized issue is #135, featuring the clash between Swoop and Divebomb; I got it signed by Jeff Anderson a few years back at a con in Nottingham. He was also working on a sketch of Galvatron at the time, so I bought that off him when he'd finished too. 😁
@rvaldrich
@rvaldrich 2 года назад
You know, Chris, I frickin' love this channel and the series. Watching these videos on Saturday morning...or afternoon...really is one of the highlights of my weekend.
@franks2796
@franks2796 2 года назад
There's apart of me that wished they remained in the marvel universe mostly so I can see Optimus as an avenger.
@em-rl4ig
@em-rl4ig 2 года назад
Great video Chris! Right in the feels. I can remember coming back from swimming in Arbroath and my Father had bought me the first issue of the UK comic - it's burned into my neurons. I'd love a Cybertronian Optimus like the first issue, all wonky-ass robot mode and alt-mode that's like a box on wheels (kinda MMC like now I think of it).
@nuriochi
@nuriochi 2 года назад
Great video! Grew up on this comic. I wanted to make a comment to recommend the Transformers episode of the Toys that Made Us (Netflix) which interviews Shooter and Budiansky - though I’d be surprised if you haven’t seen it. Unfortunately they don’t interview Furman which seems a criminal oversight. Anyone reading this who hasn’t seen the episode, it’s worth a watch!
@konstantinszelcs2766
@konstantinszelcs2766 2 года назад
I just watched that today. Thanks for the recommendation!
@Rojixus
@Rojixus 2 года назад
I'm more of a cartoon guy, but it's nice to learn more about the *other* pillar of the G1 continuity.
@murphyand
@murphyand 2 года назад
Thank you to all the writers that has made the franchise what it is today, without them we prob wouldn’t have the animations and movies we have today and allowed our community to grow exponentially with their story telling and stills to capture the minds of fans alike
@akibasilver301
@akibasilver301 2 года назад
I was a young kid in the 2000's, so when I found an annual at a local charity shop, I didn't really get why the Transformers were so different to the ones I was used to. Where were the Mini-Cons? What's a Dinobot? Why do I need to read a Marvel Comic to know the backstory? But I enjoyed that book, and even though I never quite figured out what it was for a few years - the internet was a rare commodity back then - I get why so many children 20 years before me latched onto it as they did
@edensthings
@edensthings 2 года назад
I came to you from STCTP, and I was pleasantly surprised at this more formal, documentary style. Really well written and informative, as a non-fan of Transformers I feel like a genuinely learned a thing or two!
@AliciaFytche
@AliciaFytche 2 года назад
When I first got into transformers in 2015 one of the first comics I read was target 2006 and to this day I have more love for that toy colors galvatron than the cartoon galvatron
@AgtWashingtub
@AgtWashingtub 2 года назад
A simple, The Basics consumption game. Consume your vice every time a cosmically empowered Starscream is mentioned*. *Warning: Do not play the game while watching multiple episodes*
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 2 года назад
It never ends!
@MrDoctorVK
@MrDoctorVK 2 года назад
This was yet another good corner pillar in G1 TF fiction. Maaybe it was best that TF Marvel and Marvel's own universe were set on they own time as it would have been headache to keep every event and character interaction tied together.
@ademitchell2251
@ademitchell2251 2 года назад
Read it back in the day and it remains my fave incarnations of the G1 characters. Saturday mornings was when I used to pick up my reserved copy of Transforners weekly (still have em all) loved Geoff Senior's art so much that I have his rendition of Pretender Stranglehold tattooed an my arm along with the other Deception Pretenders. An awesome comic this is sorely missed
@konstantinszelcs2766
@konstantinszelcs2766 2 года назад
(And I can only imagine that the Marvel Transformers comics can only be recommended for fans that care about the comic. (Believe me, there's no doubt that the fandom cares more about the cartoon than the comic, as even I discover.) And yes, I DO care about the comic, I have some/a few of those comics to back that statement up.)
@OscillatorCollective
@OscillatorCollective 2 года назад
The Transformers comic is integral to the whole “transformers experience”…and that cover art is a thing of pure beauty… Even G2 was awesome in the comics, it all kinda gets me a little emotional actually.😁
@NoFormalTraining
@NoFormalTraining 2 года назад
Okay, I can honestly say I was not expecting to see "the basics" on the comics themselves! Makes me wonder if you've gave the cartoon series "the basics" treatment as well :D I'll go snooping through the archives after I've posted this! I wonder if Combat Colin will get a look in? ;)
@Skeletonizer
@Skeletonizer 2 года назад
Nice to see this series covered by the basics!! I think I’d like to actually backread at least the US comics, being as all I had as a kid was the Matrix Quest. Great vid as always!
@Mat23
@Mat23 2 года назад
Love this kinda bits of lore. Always helps me build characters for the Trading Card Game! 🎉🎉🎉
@Steven-ip8xo
@Steven-ip8xo 2 года назад
Another amazing but superb video featuring the Basics on Transformers the US/ UK Marvel Comics Chris thank you and keep them coming,also my favorite Transformers story was the Underbase Saga featuring Autobots and Decepticons working together to not only battle but to find a way to defeat a Cosmically Powered Starscream.also thank you for sharing Chris keep up the good work and may the 4th be with you.🙂🤛🇺🇲🦸🏋️🙂👍
@maxxsorba
@maxxsorba 2 года назад
Very interesting!! I grew up with a few of the Marvel comics, namely the Blaster on Cybertron arc and the G2 stuff! Glad to have more context on such a vital part of my favorite brand
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