I just happened to find your video one day and spent the next three hours watching all your different videos. Your method of attention to detail kindness and commitment to never betraying the horse is beautiful. I know you are a lot tougher than words like that but I got to say I’ve seen some really gruesome training.And yours is just the a pitta me of working horse and show Horse they’re all wrapped up in the same and I love it
Thank you, Pat and Deb, for doing these. My heart soars when I see the notification that there is a new video. I wish I had someone like Pat 30 years ago when I was working horses to teach me. I wanted to learn the Californio way, but I didn't have anyone to watch and guide me. These vids are so good and put so many things together for me, even now so many winters down the road. Looking forward to the continued journey.
Don't believe that I could ever get tired of watching a good cow horse ! 😊 I have been tired and aggravated some at watching a good horse with a bad rider though! Really enjoy your patience with these horses. Pop told me at a young age that without patience nothing gets done.... right ! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
"Poco a poco" thank you so much Pat. I just acquired a 9 yr.old AQHA gelding who is hotter than you know what. I've had to really review my horsemanship and take it "poco a poco" with him. You are such a good mentor. Watching your videos is making me realize a good horse is worth all the time and patience you can give him.
Another great video. I am glad I found your channel and it is great to hear you have more planned. I like the training video's and love the working video's.
Just stumbled on your video and know I’m hooked Haven’t worked Cattle in 40 years and Horses I rode and broke until my uncle sold his farm Man your horse sense reminds me of my uncle it’s hard work but also a gift from God Thanks For Sharing . I’d love to ride with you some day before I turn to Dust
You said you like to hear where people are from, I am subscribed from Dandridge, TN right outside of the Great Smoky Mountains national park. Love your no nonsense horsemanship and I use your knowledge on my horses! Thankyou!
Im from new york. No one is every gonna teach me to ride a horse without me paying them. Idk why im watching this. But id appreciate that u stay doinnit.
The “hand him the reins “ reminds me of the young husband ( boyfriend) that takes a non shooting girl , woman, and hands her the 12 gauge..magnum shells..and tells her it won’t kick a bit! Stupid, cruel, shortsighted...if the point is to never have a partner to shoot with.,this will work. Oh and don’t trust much of what they say..
This vidio was wonderful. The Hawaii riders must have been the Spanish Kings men.. On my home town we had many " Mexicans" who were loyal to Spain, and had to flee Mexico to escape the revolution.
Hello Pat and Deb, I wanted to tell yall thank you again for the jointless snaffle I bought from yall this past summer. It has helped tremendously on some horses I've got and I've even used it on some that were outside horses to "re-educate" if you will. I hope this message finds you both doing well and continuing to be blessed. When you make it to Texas, dont forget to stop in Wichita Falls and rest your bones from the weary travels. Sincerely, Jarrod Lattinville Rafter JK Ranch and Performance Horses
Sir, I am a school trained and certified professional farrier. However, on a real note, I don't shoe for the public. I pack mules. When it comes to shoeing the vast majority of the time im cowboy shoeing. In my experience cowboy shoeing does just fine. Most farriers are not also horsemen. I'd rather be a horseman that cowboy shoes than a farrier that ain't a horseman. Just my 2 cents
Wonderful video, as always. I'm so glad I found your channel. I've enjoyed each video, and think about the topics after I'm done watching. I've revisited many of them already. Have a good day. Snowing in upstate NY today. ❄🌬
Look forward to each and every video! Thank you Pat & Deb!! What I wouldn’t do to have all this knowledge 10 years ago! It’s never too late! Appreciate all you do and say!
Thank you Pat for taking the time to share the knowledge you have, and thank you Deb for all the the the videos and the time you take to bring them to us! You are a Great mentor to young people keeping traditions and history in the forefront of our minds!
We do sell the Missing Links Snaffle on our website www.thedisciplinedride.com/store . If you’re looking for a western shank bit, we like a Sliester bit which you can often find used on eBay. We also like the Jeremiah Watt Product bits with the A100 cheekpiece and traditional half breed mouthpiece for most horses. Here’s a link for those: bitterrootsaddleco.com/arena-classic-bits-jeremiah-watt-bits/
Didn’t the Spanish explorer Ponce de Leon bring horses with him that were lost after landing in what is suspected as Florida? TY for sharing your wisdom and experience with all of learners!!
Hi Pat and Deb, I really enjoy learning from your videos. I'm not a cowboy. I just like to learn about horses, how you train them and the history of the old west. I like to watch Rick Gore also. His horses are not working horses. Rick shows how to care for a horse and how to ride bitless. His site is 'Think like a horse' if you want to take a look at what he does. Thank you again for sharing your years of experience with us.
Rick Gore. Seriously? He's just one endless misogynistic rant, with horses as a prop. He treats his horses fine, but has very little of value to say, despite hundreds of hours of YT videos. The polar opposite of Pat, who has multiple lifetimes worth of horse knowledge and wisdom in his head and dispenses it carefully and thoughtfully. And respects women.
So if shoes stay on that’s all that matters, lunging is just aimlessly wandering, you fit bits by the number of wrinkles . And finally the respect thing. I despair for horses…….
Where we live, the shoes have to stay on. If we're 5-10 miles from home and the horse throws a shoe, it's a long walk back home and we risk bruising the horse's soles on that long walk in boots that weren't "made for walking." Lunging is, for the most part, just a way that people use to burn off the excess energy of their horses because they don't ride often enough or long enough. The horse has his head turned to the outside and he is checked out. And with each circuit, he gets stronger and more braced so the next time, he has to be lunged even longer. We've seen people lunging their horses for 3 hours before they get on. So yes, lunging is mindlessly wandering. We prefer exercises that engage the horse's mind rather than just making him stronger and stronger. The miles we RIDE keep our horses fit. We want our bits, western bits or snaffle bits, to be adjusted so that they just touch the corners of the horse's mouth. Most people have been taught that two wrinkles in the horse's lips are ideal. We disagree. Because we want the horse to be able to feel the release and be able to pick the bit up at certain times and relax and allow the bit to be in neutral at other times. The exception is a horse whose mouth is constructed in such a way that the bit will bang on the incisors if the bit isn't high enough. "The respect thing." You'll have to clarify. I will state the fact that horses weigh 1000 pounds and humans in theory weigh under 200. There has to be respect on the part of the horse for the human or chaos ensues. The horse has to learn to yield to the human or toes get stepped on. But words like "respect" and "discipline" are seen today as bad words. People prefer words like "trust" and "willing partner" which are fine words but they aren't practical without respect and discipline.
I have a great fondness for horses 🐎, especially that bay mare. The videos are very interesting and enlightening. It harkens me back to the ranch work in South Eastern Oregon that I did in my younger years. Your horsemanship videos help affirm the few thoughts I've had about horses and also boots me for the many boneheaded things I was doing. So thank you 😊. Greetings from Oregon.
Man, this guy is amazing on every detail, including the history that he gives. I didn't know why they called them Panola Cowboys. Notice how he takes the bit out of the horse's mouth, letting the horse give him the bit rather than him yanking it. If there's one thing that I can watch someone do with their horse that says whether or not they're skilled with horses, it's how they remove the bit from the horse's mouth
Perhaps I missed it in an earlier video, but where does Mr. Puckett like his snaffle bits in the mouth? One wrinkle, two, or like with the bits in this video, barely touching? I was taught to use two wrinkles with a snaffle bit, but a dayworker on the crew a couple of days ago suggested I not place my snaffle so high.
I was always taught hang it lower so the horse can carry it better and the release and signal mean more. Just my view on it. It's always worked well for me.
We like the snaffle barely touching the corners of the mouth. If you have wrinkles, there’s always a pull so the horse isn’t able to feel the release as subtly as we would like.
@@PatnDebPuckett thank you for responding to this one. I always put my bits barely touching the mouth and the owner of the yard I am at scolds me but I just smile and shrug my shoulders and ride on.
Jack Hays who was credited with being the first leader of Texas ranger moved to San Francisco and became Sheriff, if I recall the history correctly. A few such Texans went to Utah. Rangers were referred to as Backwoodsmen in Kentucky and Tennessee where the fast American horse is still revered. Some of that info came from Teddy Roosevelt's "Winning of the West".
Weight of the bit had nothing to do with that horse putting his head down. It was just getting away from the pain that large bit was puting on the roof of its mouth. I suppose after a month of you applying pain in its mouth it will be in the habbit of putting its head down and collecting even if you do the right thing and loose that bit. Time, patience, and consistency will acheive the same goal without the pain, but you just do it the way that is easiest for you. Just don't try and convince anyone who can't think rationally that it is the "weight of the bit".
Thanks for making the videos and the straight up audio. I have learned a lot from just watching, some information is what you don't say but the information is there, Posture, presentation, acceptance and all.
Could you do a short video on a ring bit or I believe is called a Chilano bit? How it was used and for what reason. I think the ring was to act as the curb strap does on traditional bits. Thank you
My cousin was Miss Rodeo Nebraska. My granddad helped the ranchers with their horses, cattle and other issues. He was a 3nd gen smithy and a hunting & fishing guide. You had to flip a coin to guess what mood he was in. My other cousin and I practiced rope tricks & trick riding cause we wanted to be like Will Rogers. Granddad didn't like that much. Anyway I sure enjoy your program.
Pat, when the horse loads its hind quarters is it already collected or does it do that simultaneously. You can see the shoulder muscles flex indicating she is balanced but does not look anxious to jump forward.
Not quite sure what you’re after. Historically there were foreign investors in the northern range...mostly English and Scottish. The cattle were trailed up from Texas. Then came the big die off in the 1860’s that put them out of business. After that, cattle were trailed up from Texas. They shipped cattle by rail to Chicago and Omaha. There were cow pokes that literally poked the cattle on the trains to keep them from lying down. I can’t really think of anything else. The style of horsemanship that we prescribe to originated in California before it was a state when it was part of Spain.
Most of us would be lucky if we could ever get our horses to the point he got this horse as shown in the first 4 minutes. And that's just when he transitions from the snaffle. Good luck all. And thank you to the horseman.
I can listen to you all day long and be a sponge just taking in all your knowledge and what I would give to just be able to work with you in person for a week thank you.
Appreciate the marital advice as well as your thorough explanation of why you do things a certain way, and the reminders about 'ranch' horses vs other disciplines.
& 1832? those vaqueros where mexican no matter what they told the natives of hawaii the government changed from spain to mexico right in the 1820's so maybe they still identified as spanish because of the previous government
Hawaiians would have called the espa~noles paniolos. As I understand it Hawaiians couldn't say the "S" Samuel Parker founded the Parker Ranch on the Big Island. The headquarters is at Kamuela, the Hawaiian way of saying Samuel.
In order to achieve a greater level of collection and communication along with the ability to ride with one hand. This means the rider communicates primarily with his or her body rather than always pulling on the horse’s mouth.
I think his point is that whereas with a flat mouthpiece -- one with no port -- the angle that you put the bit in their mouth doesn't really matter. But if the bit has a port, like that one did, you have to be careful to angle the bit back, parallel to the tongue/jaw, so the port doesn't hit the roof of the horse's mouth going in.
Love the history lesson. The Parker Ranch had mostly Morgans until late 1950's early 1960's when younger folks took over and introduced the QH. The Paniolos missed the Morgans because their tradition had been the bridle horse ...and Morgans by their natural carriage were easier to bridle. I am hopelessly addicted to Pat's history lessons. Off topic but for your average Morgan what would the ideal measurements be for a set of "coastal" romal reins?
Our reins average between 26 and 30 inches long. The big gray mare, Lola, rides a 28 inch set. The sorrel bridle horse, Gypsy, is also 28. We’ve had some 14 hand horses that used a 26 inch rein. We’ve had some flatter built horses that rode a 30 inch rein. So it comes down to the level of collection the horse rides in and not so much how tall he is.
