Apple in 1999: here's a computer that is really easy to take apart. Apple in 2014: you want to take apart this computer? Fuck you, good luck not breaking it and if you take it apart, you're out one warranty.
@@sbrazenor2 the fanboys saying it’s totally reasonable for the low-end M2 to have half the disk bandwidth because of what ultimately were design _decisions,_ not inherent outcomes, is amazing to me.
To be fair it wasn't just to make us happier but was lower cost to manufacture. In ~1990 when Jobs created fully automated NeXT factory. He was glad to announce only one screw was needed to screw that NeXT Cube. So it could be quickly assembled and therefore cheap. But it comes with cost - more material is needed. And more parts. If you change design it require more elements. Even smalles like handles, springs etc. Cook was responsible for that process. Ever since Cook cooked Apple, they take care more about lowering costs, than quality or repairability. Repairability allows those who customize earn money - your market share grows. Money behind your brand. But not income. Same is for repairability. Allows manufacturers of replacement parts to make money. Making solid glued junk makes You earn more money at expense of others. And obviously - customer. They could make it rapairable and make old junk keep value. Allowing their customers to purchase more and gain market share. What they did instead is increased profit margin. Substancially. And stock owners are happy because they are paid.
+Rom Hook That case was so great to work on. It later became the G4 too. Very heavy machines to carry about as they had so much over-engineering in them.
@@howaboutsomesoyfood tbh Steve was against upgradable machines in principle, he liked the idea of sealed appliances, but he let these machines live because they were For Pros who needed the most power possible whatever the price, and so most people wouldn’t mess with them. The iMac and iBook more closely matched Steve’s “vision” as it were.
Labe Scheinberg also seemed to be a well established physician and has written several books on the topic. Very cool that you somehow ended up with his computer!
I didnt know him in person but I looked him up. He was a respected doctor in his field of MS disease. And it is quite an honor to have owned something that he owned. Rest in peace Dr. Scheinberg.
I bought one of these exact machines when it was first introduced. It also had a matching monitor that weighed about 600 pounds. The monitor died at about 6 years of age. I gave the computer to my brother and he is STILL using it. What amazes me about this machine is how fast it boots and how fast apps load. For using Word and Excel, it's still a very fast machine - evan at 17 years old.
Aw, that's quite a sad story behind it really, but they must have put it into storage as soon as he died. it's amazing you got it, I looked him up too, he was quite a legendary doctor, pioneered a lot of treatments for multiple scoliosis! But it is interesting going through old files, I got an old video phone off eBay last year and it's got an archive of old emails, unfortunately most of them are those chain emails of people emailing unfunny jokes to each other.
+Larry Bundy Jr It looks like Labe (or at least this machine) wrote his wife's obituary too - at 7:01 there are documents from the date she died mentioning her name and an obituary.
Maybe the original owner - who passed away - can live on though the remains of his scientific work on this Mac. I hope I will! I keep my old Macs in excellent condition, every four or five years they get a new battery. Then a power on and I set the clock again. In forty of fifty years the people who live then will find a great collection of contemporary music and porn movies. I hope they think that I am the actor.
vanhetgoor I believe he will live on but probably in the books he wrote not his Mac lol. He was a doctor and it looks like he was a great doctor. Still it’s like this Mac is a small part of his life that is no longer here and for reason its fascinating to me.
Gordon Heeman I had this very model and my career as an editor in Hollywood started with this. To this day, I miss that swing down door and easy upgradeability
Couple days ago, I was with my friend, and we were driving when I in the back of my eye, I saw an old Mac sitting on top of a desk on the curb for trash pickup. As soon as I realized what it was, I just yelled "OH MY GOD!" and my friend thought he ran over someone for a second until I yelled that there was a mac on the side of the road, and I just practically begged for him to turn around so I can rescue it. I got the mac, it's a power mac g4 400 mhz version made in February 2000, and it works like a charm! Interesting thing is that the original owner seems to have replaced the hard drive because the drive wasn't even mounted to the case and was missing a case mount. Still, it was the most amazing find I ever got!
its really sad, you can see a file called "obitory editor" at 150PM sunday Jan 9 2000, then at 614PM a new file called "Louise Goldman Scheinberg"... he wrote his wifes obituary... then it looks like he died two years later.. If you could track down his family they would probably be grateful to get the old files, especially those old photos.
16 year old computer works just perfectly, meanwhile your retina macbook kicks the bucket after the end of the warranty and apple gladly give you a new upgraded model barely faster than the last years one for the low price of 1299. Now you can browse facebook faster than ever.
Those computers back then are like: "Oh, you threw a brick at me? I don't care." Apple products now: Guy: *sneezes while using iPhone* iPhone: *Screen cracks into a million pieces while smoking*
+Marcos Villafuetre oh thank goodness you're hear to explain these things to us all, no one with a sense of humour could have got our heads around that without you! :P
It's just an old computer; it's nothing special. I have a number of them that I still have to get rid of; rather expensive BTOs that we purchased over the years,, that are in fact just obsolete. We should have never wasted so much money on pointless "technological" junk to begin with.
Things were tough in the old days. The PC I'd bought in 2002 was supplied with 256 megabytes of DDR RAM, which sounded like a lot at the time. But I was not told that Windows XP actually required 500 megabytes of RAM just as cashe memory. Thus, in order to run Windows XP efficiently, you actually required somewhat more RAM than that. No wonder it seemed to run so lumpy. It kept upping the vitual memory it required from drive C. Yet, back in 2002, they were also selling laptops installed with XP that only had 128 megabytes of RAM.
+Stephen Clementson No way, minimum RAM requirement for XP was 64 MB (reccomended 128 MB) but almost nobody had 512 MB of RAM when XP was released to the public.
olli2591 As I recall, minimum requirements quoted for XP were stated to be absurdly inadequate at the time of its launch. In 2001, they were claiming that any PC made since 1996 could handle XP. But, as one commentator stated, his 1996 PC would have been inadequate, especially as it had only been supplied with a 1.5 gigabyte hard drive. PCs supplied with 64 megabyte RAM capacities were common, circa 1998. My 2002 machine was a recent upgrade at the time, as it was able to accommodate 1 gigabyte of RAM in the form of two 512 megabyte cards. I learned later that the previous mother board associated with that model could only accommodate 512 megabytes.
***** Not for me. Moreover, 256 megabytes of RAM could not support DVD burning. So, I had to add an extra 512 megs of ram. The problems were all cured. 768 megs was enough for that system, and I noticed no further improvements with 1 gigabyte of RAM installed.
+The Professor Not to worry. It was a 2002 Packard Bell, running a 2 gigahertz Pentium 4. I built up a replacement (for the period 2010 to 2011, running Windows 7), that used a 2.7 gigahertz dual core processor, and 4 gigs of RAM. Sold that on (admittedly at a loss just to get rid of it, because my wife didn't want it), and replaced it with another home build, based on a 3.3 gigahertz i5 quad processor.
I just watched it on Mac Mini 2015. It is hard to believe how far technology has come through i just past 16 years. I exactly remember that time as I was about to graduate from Engineering college. I remember vaguely when those colored Mac has came out those were quite a big deal and it was in the news all over.
This is amazing! SO this guy bought the computer in 1999, used it for four years and then probably got sick so the computer probably got put back into the box. Where it sat there for twelve years until someone through it into the garbage. Amazing find!
My old school used to have these same exact Power Macintosh G3 computers too. I remember these back in the day at the time when they were brand new. I too have always loved the blue translucent case that Apple offered back then as well as the color cases from the other G3 iMacs & iBook models from this era.
2037: 128gb RAM? Pah! You need to get 512gb RAM if you wanna consider yourself a real man! Get a 128bit copy of Windows 18 too! Fallout 7 won't work without it! 2050: I bet you can't run Crysis 21! You need at least 4tb of RAM to run it! You also need a 256bit version of Windows 29!
+Michael Davidson i think the current macs look dumb, they need to make more of those types of computers along side though. id actually buy a mac then or maybe just buy a case like that and put my system in it... dunno
Going through a somewhat nostalgia thing for my first professional Macs - used this exact model in my first graphics job after college, loved it. Mac OS 8 through 9 was zippy, fast, reliable and ran software like nothing. Sure it crashed here and there, but not often. Got the job done and I sharpened my Mac OS skills which still help me today. I remember that you can change jumpers on the motherboard to speed up the processor speed. Careful though, but I remember it did give the Power Mac G3 a boost! At home I had a beige G3 which was also a fantastic Mac. I ran all kinds of good OS enhancement stuff, like A-Dock, an app that added a Start Menu! Speed Startup or something which did allow for faster extension loading at start up, etc. etc. I often think about attaining an old G3 running Mac OS 8-9 running for nostalgic kicks and playing an old CDRom game, my choices would be this PowerMac G3 with the matching 15-inch Apple Studio Display or a Pismo or Artemis would be my choices. You found a really, really nice clean frozen in time G3, cool walkthrough .::Gary
Pull that battery NOW! Those Maxells explode quite readily. Those Quantum drives are slow, loud, and crappy, I have the same 6.4GB in my beige G3 (built 2 months before your G3, one of the last beige ones!). That machine can run Final Cut Pro 3 under MacOS 9 with that kind of memory. OS X 10.4 is doable with 256MB of RAM as well. The only downside was that stupid 66Mhz PCI video card, these really should have had AGP slots in them.
Even as someone who isn't really a friend of Apple products these days, I know why I liked the G3 back then. Really an amazing piece of hardware, both the Power MAC and the iMac. Not to think of this thing was truly capable of 1080p.
I've owned many of these in the past. I'd say either it was never used or cleaned by a pro. Odd find. I can remember when the G3 was so mind blowingly fast no one could believe it! Great to see the interface running - haven't seen 8.1 for such a long time. OMG! Dead man's CV!
Michele Marie Dalene It's well known that old clock batteries can leak after many years. But the red Maxells have been known to actually explode. See this thread from 68kMLA: 68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/17086-warning-exploding-maxell-pram-batteries/
These typically fail for some reason, I worked at a computer store for a time in 2013 and we got tons of these in from customers that we couldn't get parts for them so they told us to keep em, all of them broken, so my boss had me disassemble them... we weren't able to refurbish the old machines due to the limited availability of parts so that's why we didn't repair them.
I found a powermac g5 2.3 dual core with 8gb at the recycle center last week. all I had to add was a hdd that I already had a then Installed leopard. to be honest I thought it was a mac pro which is why I took it over the 2008 20" imac I saw there. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing that too.
Wow, that's a pretty awesome find. To me it's even more special because it hadn't been upgraded until you did. I always love seeing old computers with their factory specs and running the factory OS that they came with. I actually have one of the older beige Power Mac G3s. It has a 300MHZ PowerPC G3 CPU, 64MBs of RAM, an 8 GB HDD, a 24X CD-ROM Drive, a ZIP Drive, and of course a floppy drive. It even has the AV Personality Card installed in it. And 6VR? I assume that it's an extra 6 MBs of Video RAM, but I'm not sure. It must have been one heck of a machine when it was manufactured on November 5th 1998. I also realised that the video card doesn't have the ADC connector on it. Did the Apple Studio Display not exist yet? Anyways, great video as always.
When these machines first came out, a coworker said to me "You know why they put those handles on there? So you can throw it in the garbage easier!" Considering Apple's mentality about older systems, he wasn't far off! Also, those Quantum Fireball drives made the most awesome sound if you yanked power from them. Shut down normally, no, but power yanked, yes. When I was in college they had these drives in the machines we were using, a classmate and I would power our machines down several times during class just to hear them!
Had one of these at an Internet company I worked at from 99-01. Loved it! I still have one of the G3's successors -- the graphite-colored G4 -- in my basement. :)
HDscan Back when they had this computer did they have iphones,ipads,ipods did they also have a 5k resolution imac back then... No so this is why apple is a better brand then what it was then.
+Logan Clarke back then, apple was a COMPUTER maker and had different and better hardware than what intel could produce. Now apple only foccuses on movil gadgets and apple computers are pc's only with another OS
leftyla no its not they use there name to sell, the mac book was the same as my computer but with a fancy shell on it, my computer was $750 and the mac was $1000.
I just found 2 of these laying around at someone's storage place and he gave me them. One was missing just about everything but the original motherboard. The other one has 384mb ram (1x128mb and 1x256mb) and a 16mb video card. Mine is also insanely clean as if it's brand new with no dust.
@@QuarioQuario54321 the Power Mac/Mac Pro was always the exception! (Even the tiny ones which end up hurting themselves, like the G4 Cube or the “trash can”!)
This same thing happened to me about two months ago. I found a desktop computer in mint condition by the trash. A 2007 Dell desktop with XP Professional on it. From the files I found, it looked like it was used by a little girl to learn how to type. It's barely been used but I'm using it now. I upgraded the RAM to 2 GB and bought a 1 TB external drive for $49. This video about the G3 desktop gives me bad memories of the IMac I owned from 2000 to 2004. Just hearing that Mac boot up sound sends chills up my spine.
Damn this is an EXTREMELY good find! Thanks for sharing this with us. I was just wondering though, do you keep and/or collect most of the vintage machines you find or sell them off if you don't have a use for them?
+Giovanni Joseph The trash can Mac Pro is the most innovative thing they have done in a while. It's very impressive, even if it's not the most practical. Old Macs are the best though!
***** That was also 8 years ago. They have done some cool things with it since then, but a lot of it is just slightly thinner/lighter/faster/better camera than the last one...
You got to hand it to Apple, they really know how to design a computer case. I wish more case manufacturers would follow that design where the motherboard would tilt out when the case was opened. Would make working on the computer so much more easier.
I was told to clean and fix one of these things in one of my computer classes (we did free service on them for the experience). It was brown with smoke and dirt build up all over it. We took turns trying to clean the sludge out of it and eventually one of us through up. There was nothing wrong with it, it was just so dirty that the thing would overheat in no time at all. I don;t know how anyone can let there computer get that gunked up with that crap, I can only imagine there home...
Even considering computers in general costed quite a lot more than they do today, 16 hundred $ (2400 $ in today's money) for a machine with such lowish specs sounds like too much.
If you ask me, Apple had two golden ages. The first one was from 1991-1994, when the PowerBook, and later the Power Macintosh, were new hot products. The second one was from 1998-2002, when Steve Jobs had just returned and awesome computers like the iMac G3, Power Mac G3, Power Mac G4, iBook, and Pismo PowerBook were made.
Back then in 1997 I bought my first Mac - A Powermac 8600/250 - When you turned it on I just started to remember all those tiny noises coming out from the HDD...Ahh memories! now I realised I miss all that sound alerts like the quack! Loved it but I have to say it was quite cumbersome, a huge case but loved playing Bungie´s Marathon games on it!
Michele Marie Dalene The first generation G5 was the worst one to have. Those models had terrible problems with BGA parts on the motherboard failing from the heat of the CPUs, requiring a new motherboard to be installed. They aren't at all easy to service either, the clamps holding in the massive CPU heatsinks are a pain to get out due to needing special bits. I rescued a G5 from the dump and it has the BGA problem, as well as several other things I was able to fix (bad memory, bad battery and bad HDD.) It runs great for about an hour then locks up with looping audio and then black screen.
Michele Marie Dalene Only the single core 1.6GHz G5 maxes out at 4GB, mine is a dual 1.8GHz and supports up to 8GB, so yours would too. But 4GB should be enough for the next few years. And if you have a 64MB Video card, I highly recommend upgrading to a 128 or 256MB card. Yours may even support a 512MB card.
TylerGaming97 The amount of video memory on a video card is not an indicator of video card performance. There are tons of bottom of the barrel garbage cards with a fat pile of RAM on them that can't be utilized because the GPU is too weak. You also can't toss any video card in an Apple machine and expect it to work. You need the Apple specific version of the card that has a PPC/EFI BIOS, standard PC cards won't work. There are also issues with Apple being geniuses and doing non-standard things with the AGP slot that make things even more irritating. And seeing how "Apple Tax" will apply here, you can expect to pay up to 500% more for the Apple version of the same PC card and actually get LESS features. You can modify a select few PC video cards to work in Apple machines, but the process isn't trivial and you can end up bricking both the machine and the card if you do something wrong. Unless your Apple machine came with a REALLY bad card like an ATI Rage or Geforce 2 MX then don't bother trying to upgrade, it's not worth it.
this brings back memories to me. I had one of these computers, but I had a 350 Mhz G3. I did run os x on it for a while, and it runs well. I sold it to someone who needed a computer, but couldn't afford a new one. It really was a great computer.
64 Mb of ram? Back about 10 years ago I had a shitty gateway computer with a celeron processor, 20 GB HDD and 256 Mb of ram that ran Windows XP. It was painfully slow. Web browsing was OK and RU-vid videos worked(this was RU-vid before Google) but anything beyond that was fucking terrible. I basically used it for Itunes and very light web browsing. Celeron's were fucking terrible back then. They really deserved all the hate they received.
a beautiful mac indeed, I was fortunate to be given one of these, and still have it. have maxed out the ram and added a second hard drive. you were rare to find this in the shape it was in as they did tend to get scuffed and scratched over time. this looks like it saw very little use.
Agrimar? Ha, well this was unexpected. Didn't mean to find you here. A bit of an old comment but never expected to find a comment from you. ah, programmers we love old computers. Sometime's old is gold.
Deante Haney I'm amazed at the condition it's in. Looks like it just came out of the box. A lot of people throw perfectly good computers away. Two months ago I found a 2007 Dell desktop in mint condition that was sitting by the trash in my apartment building. I upgraded the RAM to 2 GB and I'm using it right now. One of the benefits of living in the city is a lot of people throw away stuff that's perfectly good. That's how I got both my stereo and my microwave.
