@@nachgeben It isn't a norm tho Especially with concerts full of younger people like this concert. Keeping in mind his fanbase are the same people playing fortnite
@@nachgeben human crushes are easily preventable with the right medical staff and security on hand as well as proper concert planning and a basic high school understanding of physics. The motherfuckers who ran travis's concert obviously had none of those. School shootings have been happening for hundreds of years, yet I don't see people blaming high schoolers because going to school is a risk.
Yes I seen a RU-vidr who was blaming the fans because "they payed to go and they got what they wanted." "They knew what kind of music he made and should have expected SOMETHING to happen" and then he was talking to another person and she called Travis a "nasty rat" for what he did and- the guy ACTUALLY THREATENED THE GIRL FOR IT. LIKE BRO HE SAT THERE AND SANG AS PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DIEING WHAT DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO SAY ABOUT SUCH SHITTY BEHAVIOR.
Well you gotta look out for OD's, rapist, getting trampled if it's as big as Woodstock, watch out for guns etc. We're gonna be in soon to be 2022. Stuff ain't peaceful at concerts like 10-40+ years ago in then 80's-early 2000's
Just a reminder that at one of Travis shows he got a shoe stolen and stopped the whole show. It's so comforting to hear that he values a shoe over a child's life.
@@jorgemiller325 it’s not their fault that they actually liked his songs. It’s like if you broke your leg by falling down the stairs and someone said “it’s your fault you fell down the stairs”
@@requiem522 Lol if that's true that's his fault for falling down the stairs no one pushed so who is he to blame? The stairs or the imaginary creatures? You can like someone's music and not go to their concert, celebrity worshipping culture is the problem.
Went to a My Chemical Romance Concert. It wasn't ran well and similar issues were starting to happen. People literally collapsing passed out. Being said, the band was on top of it, stopped everything, and got people out of there. They constantly encouraged everyone to be cool and help each other out, in then continued to throw water to everyone throughout the show. No deaths. Venue is garbage, but it shows how much power the band (or artist) has.
I also saw MCR growing up and yes Travis had the power authority to pull the plug on the whole show. It’s so fucking sad and disturbing I hope Travis can never perform again
Fucking Green day lead singer jumped into the crowd and kicked a guy in the head for beating on a kid. The entire tragedy at Astro world was preventable
linkin park, and slipknot have done similar things. it's always heavy metal bands or just metal bands who get bad rep when it's one of the most safest places you can mosh to some tunes at. travis was fully capable of pulling the plug.
A little boy recently passed away due to injuries sustained at the concert. His father, Treston, had placed him on his shoulders in an attempt to shield him from the hordes of people crushing and trampling one another. Treston fell over and was knocked unconscious, leading the young boy to be dropped into the crowd. When Treston came to, his son was missing. He eventually found his son lying lifeless at a children’s hospital. He suffered severe trauma to his lungs, liver, and kidneys. He went into cardiac arrest and had swelling on the brain. He was put into a medically induced coma, where he remained until his passing. His name was Ezra Blount. He was just 9 years old. No one, especially children, should die at a concert.
@@xDARKxANGELxFaZEx absolutely, but he should also serve time in jail for at least a couple of decades. I mean if Kyle Rittenhouse could be facing life in prison for self defense, Travis deserves MUCH worse.
@@sasamihajlov2862 Another comment around here explained how he most likely won't get prison time because what he did has a enough technicalities to not get considered criminal, so at worst he'll be paying from the lawsuits. (Also I'm pretty sure Rittenhouse got off not guilty.)
The woman who was trying to help everyone by getting the camera man to try and listen to her and watching him blatantly IGNORING it truly angered me, he had the power to help and didn’t do anything.
If I was her I would've literally broke the camera bro. She really didnt care all that much. But u wouldn't catch me dead in a travis scooters concert.
I was a victim of crowd crush at a Sisters of Mercy concert during their Vision Thing tour. A crowd surfer accidentally kicked me in the mouth full force, and I was just pouring blood, and right after this the crowd surged, and all 5'3" of me got pushed into the barrier, and I was losing consciousness. At that point, not only did staff come forward to pull me out and get me emergency care (as well as aiding a few others who were also suffering the same fate), Andrew Eldritch stopped performing and came to the edge of the stage to make sure no one was being missed. They took me backstage to a couch and got me ice packs and checked to make sure I was okay, and then had me stand on the side of the stage after I was okay to walk away, so they could keep an eye on me. It was terrifying and so miserable, but I was immediately so impressed by how this great titan of a security guard yanked me out of the crowd like a weed and got me help. This is how things should be. There are just too many places that don't give a damn, as long as the money is coming in.
@@koishi5935 it is, he was being crowd surfed or something at a past concert and someone took his shoes, he stopped the concert on the spot and spit on the guy who took them, also told the crowd to beat his ass.
Now as a very old lady, I can tell you that performers have taken control from the beginning, when they cared. Jethro Tull concert in 1971, Ian Anderson (lead singer) made us all back up, he wouldn't continue the performance until the audience was under control. I was pinned between people, my feet weren't even touching the ground and that man saved my life.
@@numbersguy8737 Because it's the internet so people act however they want because they feel their is no consequences a little bitch like that would never pull something like that irl whenever you see someone doing something like this online just know it's because they are scared to do it irl
That’s the sad thing this whole thing could’ve been stopped but these people didn’t want to stop the concert I’m not blaming the people who just wanted to have fun but the people running the concert they could’ve at least stopped it but they didn’t and it’s just selfish and disgusting.
@@elijahbaker781 Where did you get that did you even watch the concert? People broke the gates down and illegally came in. It’s the same situation as the capitol there was too many people to stop
“It’s truely disgusting how avoidable this was” should be shoved on the faces of those that are defending Travis and going as far as blaming the victims.
Travis scott sees like 2 people out of the hundreds of people there pass out "I guess since 2 people passed out i can deduce that this was actually because of multiple factors and the best solution would be to stop this concert right now, and of course i deduced this while im focused on putting up the show that everyone here came for"
@@RatedRRaj charlie said the victims were dying bc of suffocation from others. they were prob smaller and not strong enough causing pushing from the chest and shoulders, like taking out breath punch but multiple times. ksi noticed someone was unconsious so he stopped the show for a bit. travis should have done the same. you dont know what the victims did or didnt do at the concert bc u werent there.
@@RatedRRaj the only ignorant is u tho? Charlie called people defending him stupid unless u aren't defending Travis and just blaming the victims. Like people who invested in types of shitcoin and lost money, they deserve it for doing it in the first place. But then where did you find the videos of the victims laughing and pushing moshpiting as well or peer pressure? How can u find that online. And in the end they might not be the actual victims, where is the proof
Just saw a comment talking about how even in metal concerts if somebody falls over in a mosh pit they provide circle shield around you to make you sure you are okay. Slipknot has been know to stop concerts completely lights on and everything just to make sure somebody is ok. This is so sad
I totally agree with you, I think it totally is based on the certain group of people who go to concerts like Astro world. They obviously just don’t care for each other, unlike other music groups.
I've fallen down plenty of times. Always picked back up. It's an instant response now. Awesome culture. I think it started in Australia after that poor girl got crushed during a bdo festival during the limp bizkit set.
Travis Scott literally doing a robot dance when someone is being put in a bag is the most black mirror shit I have seen. (and I’ve seen meta get announced)
The 16 year old girl who passed away went to my high school. The week we went back after she passed was one of the most depressing weeks of school I have been to in a long time. That week was lots of people in tears having breakdowns. It makes me genuinely sad.
lame... the only thing I would be thinking about is that her last act on this earth was to go twerk at a travis scott concert lmao. Literally can't feel bad for these people they're making all of their own horrible choices
@@hotrebirth165 so let me get this straight...A high school girl who went to a concert of her favorite musician after being locked down due to covid for nearly 18 months is killed, killed in one of the worst ways imaginable and this is your takeaway? I suggest you delete your reply before you embarrass yourself further.
@@hotrebirth165 "making their own decisions" no one expects to die at a concert?? Also that shit could've been a birthday gift for all that you know, my 14th birthday gift was a surprise ticket to see Postmodern Jukebox.
The story from the Reddit trauma nurse was just heartbreaking. The TLDR was she passed out, was brought to the medical area and she woke up with a bottle of water in her hand and just 15 bodies around her and a few medical personnel trying to do CPR, they had little to no equipment whatsoever. The event organizers should be fucking sued into the dirt.
@izanaluvr I saw that, it was the Houston Police Department dropping that girl on her head. Really right there was just lack of communication, “Hey does anyone have her head before I let go and reposition myself?” And guess what. Nobody did. Another thing is that THERE WHERE NO FUCKING STRAPS FOR THE STRETCHER. Which leads me to believe it was the events paramedics stretcher.
@@hapymine9632 whoa whoa whoa. Buddy. This the US. The rich people don’t get in trouble. The poor and middle class take the brunt. Not the big companies.
I almost experienced crowd crush in 2015 at a Marina concert. People were moving in closer by the stage and one of the venue staff pulled me aside and told me to sit in the VIP section so I wouldn’t get trampled or crushed. They brought in another girl from the crowd who was being crushed. That man probably saved both of our lives.
I've been involved in multiple crowd crushes, the worst being at a Stormzy (British rapper) concert at Boardmasters Festival in 2017. Half the crowd literally fell over and Stormzy stopped the concert immediately once he noticed what was happening. No one died but three people broke bones in a crowd of 60,000. This was completely avoidable, a good performer knows how to calm down a crowd as well as rile it up, Travis didn't do that.
How does this happen? I have been to multiple big name Red Rocks shows and it never happened. Also go to Hangout Fest on the beach many times. Is it the particular venue?
@@Flufferz626 All the crushes I’ve been involved in were caused by people getting too excited and trying to push to the front, once they start it’s a chain reaction which the crowd can’t sort out themselves, it’s up to the artist to get in the mic and stop the concert so everyone can sort themselves out. Overcrowding is also a huge issue, look up the Hillsborough disaster. It’s important to note that crushes are very rarely the crowds fault, it’s poor management that makes them fatal as they’re very easy to stop with good crowd control.
@@CheeseyMilkshakes oh so it does depend on how crap the venue is and how selfish the artist is. My husband had a seizure during an Empire of the Sun concert and they stopped to get him tended to. I guess this musician has zero empathy.
Crowd crushing is often compared to dry drowning. The thought of being suffocated because you keep getting the wind knocked out of your chest and everyone keeps stomping all over you, assuming you're just lit. What a horrifying way to go...
This is exactly why Playboi Carti had to cancel his Houston concert a few weeks back, he knew that the amount of security and staff that they had just simply wasn't enough to control the crowd. Even the guy that is known for aggressive and dangerous concerts knows how to handle his crowds better than Travis Scott.
At his atlanta concert a few years ago he literally said “ fuck those seats, fuck the security, rush the fucking stage.” The fact that this hasn’t happened sooner is insane.
@LCARS DATA NODE lemme guess, he posted something like ‘*Blank* whilst people die at Astroworld: (random, possibly spanish dance emojis)’? If not I’ll be surprised.
For those saying he isn’t apart of the blame: 1) He acknowledged an ambulance (in his own audience), didn’t even stop to question it, continued the music. 2) He can spot someone in a tree, but not the thousands of fans right in front of him 3) He SAW a body being pulled out 4) He has enabled violence at his shows to the point where people passing out is normal and to where he can comfortably continue singing as it goes on. 5) Kylie lied on her story about not seeing anything. Says a LOT. 6) The phrases “Who told me to stop the show” and “Yall know what yall came to do”. Speaks for itself And no, he doesn’t have to do with whoever organized it, but he is DEFINITELY NOT INNOCENT. If other artists can spot people in the darkness of their venues, and can stop a show for someone in a split second if they aren’t feeling well, he has no excuse in my opinion. He was getting too lit???? The music was loud???? He couldn’t hear???? Fuck that, he saw the ambulance, and all you can hear is “stop the show”
@@davedave3520 Well considering you can go almost anywhere without a mask now (here at least) I don’t think anyone’s bothered, plus it isn’t the main focus at the moment. Theres been tons of concerts happening, so I don’t think its necessary to nit pick a specific concert about covid
I don't get why more people aren't outraged at Drake too!! I 100% agree with everything you said! It's a horrible sad situation and could have easily been avoided. He hyped the crowed up so so much more instead of stopping the show, and then Drake came out! People in the back somehow also couldn't understand what was happening as they continued to push 😢
Seeing the girl, climb on stage, and scream that people were dying, needed help...her face when they said get down. The camera man, not even a glance in her direction. It was horrifying and the devastating look in her eyes, the helplessness she felt was so clear. There were so many begging, Travis saw the devastation and still, he kept singing. Told people to put their arms up. This is a painful and avoidable tragedy that makes me so furious. These kids deserved a safe good time. To all who were there, I'm so sorry and to the families and friends, my heart is with you.
@@talal3c he must have missed the fans on stage yelling at him about dead bodies Ambulance driving through the crowd with lights on Dead bodies being crowd surfed to the front that he told security to get rid of And the atv with a guy getting his chest pumped by a paramedic.
meanwhile rock and metal bands when someone is getting hurt: hey guys chill alright. can you imagine; youre a parent, you drop off your kid to the concert and are happy theyll have fun and make a memory. then the same day or the next, you hear your kid died. fucking tragic.
@@stepladder3257 rock and especially metal music are known for having very wild and crazy live concerts as there are moshpits, wall of deaths, etc., yet there are a ton of people (with the exception of crowd killers) in the metal/rock community that are considerate towards others that have either passed out or fall to the ground.
I’m not blaming the crowd, but the people who were dancing on the ambulances and stopping the medical workers are just as bad, to do that is just evil and irresponsible.
With every crowd, you can't blame the actions of the entire crowd on one individual. But for the spesific individuals we DID see purposefully impeding the ambulances, they absolutely should be found and prosecuted.
In Aus we had to release an ad campaign type thing cause people would assault paramedics if they tried to take people to hospital or treat them or whatever, apparently it's the highest job for workplace violence. People break laws all the time but people stopping medical workers from getting to patients are the absolute scum of the earth to me.
it's the same concept as people throwing bricks at fire fighters during the 2020 riots who were literally just coming to put out fires and who aren't even law enforcement. just a bunch of fucking troglodytes out there.
@@desire418 first responders in my province will casually not move out of the way or stop for people. if you have your car parked in front of a hydrant, the fire engine is going to PLOW your car and bill you for the damages done to the engine. same tihng with an abulance and they have much less patience than our angels in red first responders should be allowed to defend themselves and their workplace. i dont give a damn how important you think you are, you deserve to be hurt if you think its okay to let someone die cause you wanna shake your flat ass on top of the wee woo. i sincerely hope these people are found and punished accordingly, and that it isnt just brushed off. their names when found should be exposed
At metal concerts, whenever you fall down in the mosh pit, people immediately form a circle around you to help you back up on your feet, and to make sure you don't get stepped on. When someone gets hit/hurt, everyone stops to make sure you're okay.
I went to a Bring Me The Horizon concert with 2 of my friends when I was around 14-15. As most people know, rock/metal concerts are notorious for crazy crowds and lots of moshing. The first band to perform was Of Mice And Men. There were a bunch of mosh pits, crowd surfers, etc. By the time BMTH took the stage, I had made my way closer to the front since they were my favorite band. I jumped into the first mosh pit I saw, and I was having a blast. Everything was going fine until somebody accidentally stepped on the back of my shoe, which caused me to trip and fall (and lose my shoe). The guy who had accidentally tripped me pulled me back onto my feet and asked if I was okay. He took off one of his shoes for me to wear until I found mine so that my foot wouldn't get stepped on. Within about 30 seconds, everyone who had been moshing near the stage was aware of what had happened and were looking around to try to find it. Oliver Sykes, the lead singer of BMTH, noticed the change of energy in the crowd. He turned around to his bandmates and signaled to stop playing, and paused mid-song to see what was going on. Everyone at the front was yelling "This girl lost her shoe". Oliver then addressed everyone in the crowd and said "she lost her shoe, I can't finish this song until we find it". Somebody about 50 feet away found it for me (how it ended up that far, I have no idea), and I was literally crowd surfed over to the person that had found it. Oliver completely stopped performing just for me to find my fucking shoe, and yet Travis continued singing while watching a man's body being carried away. There is absolutely no excuse.
My friend and her husband have been to Slipknot concerts and the mosh pits have really nice people who look after each other and make sure no one gets hurt....Travis Scott needs to be stopped!!
I'm guessing the shoe thing is both because it's personal property and because depending on the footwear of other people you could actually injure your food, not to mention someone could trip on it leading to some serious injuries. Which that alone kind of amazes me to hear that musicians with the edgiest appearance and music can be some of the most caring people when it comes to the safety of their fans to the point they'll take anything as a serious issue, yet some people like Travis will just keep on singing.
crowd crush is no joke, went to a smaller but still overcrowded concert, my ribs were being squeezed so much it felt like they could snap, but luckily it only lasted about 10 seconds, I can’t imagine surviving anything longer than that
Its terrible, my worst experience was when I had 5 people on top of me after we fell over as we were all at the front of the stage squished together. God bless this massively huge dude that pulled me out literally as I was about to pass out. This is another level of fucked up tho. So many things could of prevented this.
1- *Travis Scott egged on a fan to jump off a balcony and now the fan is permanently paralyzed lmao* , 2- he also *stopped a show when a fan took his shoe (while crowdsurfing) then kept aggressively telling his fans to JUMP the fan that took his shoe. Mind you, the fan was a MINOR! A KID! imagine inciting* something like that from a group of crazy fans onto one kid, quite literally risking his life. 3- he also *left a man that worked with him for 3 years and immensely helped him while he was having a seizure on the ground, he WALKED AWAY !* then when the guy called travis, travis told him he *wouldn't want a producer (I'm not 100% sure he was a producer he may have been a manager) like him because "how am I supposed to know u won't suddenly drop to the ground and start shakin and shit"* this man is a slimy grim human.
@@deez9966 his name's Shane Morris. He was there from the beginning, and had contacts everywhere. Hooked him up with the people he knew, and left him for dead in a studio three years later. Ice cold.
For the first one, he did encourage fans to jump and some did. But apparently the guy who was paralyzed didn't actively jumped but was shoved. Of course what I'm saying is based off that's man's words alone, but essentially he clarified that the footage that was shown to be related to his incident had shown fans falling from the second floor, and he was on the third. So he was paralysed because of other people's mindless behaviour. Either way, whether he was encouraged to jump and made the stupid mistake to jump or was legitimately shoved off the railing, Travis Scott is still responsible. Artists have a lot more control over crowds than people realise, any staff involved in these concerts will tell you. I can try go into detail if you want but basically I have an uncle who does DJ and worked as security and based off the experiences that he's told me, Travis Scott definitely had a handling in how the crowd became so out of control; headpieces being connected means he could have been informed, security guards not being paid enough so they slack off, estimated numbers of fans yet artists still encouraging to sneak people in, etc. Also to add I had a mate in America have a really bad experience at a festival (this was wayyy back, like 2014 or something) where Travis Scott was brought on as a partial performer. tl;dr Before Travis even comes on his fans stampeedes the crowd which mainly consisted of teenage girls to young adult women (as that was the audience for the band that previously played), and Travis' fans are shoving & trampling over the crowd. My friend is being shoved out of her section, she has to help pick up teenage girls that were being stepped on, and when Travis Scott does come on he does nothing to help. But he does tell security to take a woman out of the crowd because she started berating him (for obvious reasons). Needless to say, he could not give a single care to human lives.
Keep in mind that Billie Ellish stops the concert and ask a passed out fan whether he's/she's okay, and she did not immediately went back to performing when she saw people help the fan, but continue to keep an eye on the fan and even give the fan some water. Travis is nearly double the age of Billie
There are literal video compilations of singers stopping shows because something is going on in the crowd and don't start the show until the situation is dealt with. From things as serious like people having seizures and woman getting groped to something dumb like someone asking Ariana to restart because he forgot to hit record
This is such a tragedy. It’s honestly so heartbreaking that people went to a concert to listen to music and have fun and didn’t leave the concert alive.
This is the exact opposite that happens at Slipknot concerts. Corey Taylor (the lead singer) has stopped multiple shows to tell people to move back, calm down, make way for EMTs, and/or check on the status of any fans who had medical emergencies. The man's a class act.
Exactly!! That's why I genuinely don't understand why he couldn't stop the show! I saw a video where Corey saw a guy get picked up and thrown and he stopped the entire concert, kicked out the guy who threw him and and the victim if he was ok and if he needed water.
Dude this is why pop concerts scare me. People don't know how to SAFELY move as a crowd. Metal and rock shows are honestly the safest shows to ever go to. Especially because the bands actually freaking CARE about their fans, which clearly Travis Scott does not. This is one hundred percent his fault, and he deserves to take all the punishment and fall for this.
@@bountiful14 "Travis better" pfft at least learn how to write before you comment something. And if "travis better" then why did 8 people die? Whey did over 300 people get hurt? Why is he getting sued for more then 1 million dollars?
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This is genuinely horrifying. Imagine being one of the people at this concert and suffocating while nobody comes to help you. My heart goes out to everyone that lost their lives and their families and friends. This should not have happened and I can't believe it did. :(
Former security guard here, some artists used to encourage fans to rush towards the front because “fuck security”. This is the reason not to do that. Incredibly sad and preventable
Experienced crowd crush in 2008 when I was 16 at a Rage Against the Machine concert. Was utterly terrifying and came out soaked in sweat with every muscle trembling and all I had done is struggle to stand up right for 30 minutes. Had to have my arms constantly pushing in front of my rib cage just to breath and most of the time my feet never touched the ground. To my knowledge, no one died and it was still so bad I never went to the front of a big gig again. I can't even imagine how bad it must be in situations this serious. To any young festival/gig goers out there, don't even bother with the front. If the gig is good, the atmosphere penetrates the entire crowd and seeing the performer on stage be a little bigger is not worth the risks that can come with it. Be safe.
I went to a smaller concert when I was younger, and even though the crowd wasn't as big it was still too much for me to handle and I did not like the loud sound of the music. So I can't imagine going to a concert like this or any other rock/metal concerts because I've heard that they are really crazy. Concerts aren't really my thing.
I’ve felt it before years ago at a Circa Survive show. We were being pushed by people behind us at an unstoppable force. Everyone around me had genuine fear in their eyes. Lucky after a few minutes, the crowd behind us eased up. Love your videos, can’t wait for the 2042 content :) @defendthehouse
Yo that’s crazy, im so glad whenever i go to concerts i like to hang back and watch from a distance. One of my biggest fears is being crushed by a stampede or just being crushed by a crowd bunched up too close. That shit is dangerous as hell when everyone else doesn’t know to leave a tiny bit of space, that’s all it takes is leave an inch of space or imma start pushing people away.
Nowadays all you see at concerts are thousands of rectangular shaped lights of everyone holding up their phones recording it, so dumb...why can't everyone just make actual memories of being somewhere like that/experiencing it, I mean it's not like ur gonna forget something like that... do u see that kind of thing in the stadiums of football, basketball, baseball games etc.? Hmm no
I just got cleared to leave the hospital after attending this concert, and let me just say that however bad you think this was, I assure you that it was even worse. Imagine being sat on by an African Bush Elephant and you have a pretty good idea of what crowd crush can and will do to you. Not only did I nearly suffocate, I cracked all but one of my ribs and had my right shoulder dislocated, not to mention my total inability to breathe the whole time. Travis didn't seem to fully grasp the situation as he serenaded a dead mf ing body that was spotted about ten feet from where I was being turned into a pancake.
kylie jenner just recording the show being like “oh wow” while the ambulance was trying to pass through the crowd. i think this just how much they don’t care.
@@ethank.6602 why did they watch all the victims that people said where injured get beat and trampled in the crowd? Why are people watching unconscious people get stepped over and only A FEW VIDEOS SHOW A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HELPING MOST DIDNT OBVIOUSLY OR THERE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN SO MANY INJURIES. Why is everyone focusing on Travis's influence vs his fan bases idiocy and disregard for human life.
This whole situation hurts my soul. Those poor people. I cannot even fathom in how much pain they were in. Imagine being crushed and suffocated to death... Terrifying.
What a horrifying way to go, I've never been to a concert that big, but I had a game in elementary that nearly suffocated me. Just the first few seconds were scary, can't imagine that going on for hours until you're just...gone
I don’t think it should necessarily be career ending but he should receive a prison sentence at least. Mistakes are made he needs to accept the consequences. When out of jail can continue his shit.
I remember hearing about a paramedic who was there that said that there was a VIP section in the middle of the event and when people started dying, security started moving some injured people into the section. But the people in the section refused to let them in and one lady punched a kid for trying to get help. Just sick.
There is a clip of the crowd chanting "STOP THE SHOW" that I saw, 5 minutes before seeing another clip of Travis saying "Who told me to stop?" It's sad that people had to die here when he had more than enough chances to stop what was going on.
Yeah I saw the video of what happened after that corpse got transported over the crowd, where Travis was looking at (the video Charlie mentioned in this vid) and the people on that particular place were screaming "F*CK THIS SHOW* with their fists in the air. Travis was looking directly at those people...
There’s been MANY concerts that the singers halted because they noticed women were being SA’ed or someone had fainted, telling the audience to calm down and make room, etc. there’s no reason NOT to do that when you notice that stuff going on, as the singer you have so much power over the crowed and for you to just keep singing? Just wow.
@@jazzabighits4473 not sure what u mean, cos ive literally watched a compilation of it before lmao. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BXaGp2SIbeY.html This is the one I watched.
@@dogsdreamtoo8427 Watch the video I linked, it shows it's happened before. If they don't notice, thats not their fault and I'm not blaming them for that at all. I'm saying when they do notice, and then proceed to not do anything about it, just like the singer Charlie is talking about.
The worst part is, the people trying to help or doing CPR got hurt in the end. Plus you can't stop CPR when you start or they are basically dead with broken ribs.
The reason why there were more people than anticipated was the fact that he tweeted multiple times and posted Instagram pictures about sneaking in and helping their friends sneak in. He also said "who's telling me to stop? Yall know what yall came to do I wanna see the ground shake" while people were dying. He also got charged for inciting a riot twice. No excuse for him. This is sick.
Imagine that you start to get dizzy, and then your blood pressure drops, so you only have small flashes of consciousness where you feel dozens of people stepping on you, unable to ask for help, while they dance and jump around you ... Meanwhile Travis is doing his robot dance, fully aware of the situation. It really must felt like hell for those people.
@@joeybergeron8072 Where is the back of a crowd when people are literally entering without a ticket and pushing forwards? What was the back ends up being the middle with an endless amount of people. There's no way you can fight your way out of so many people who don't give a fuck.
This is how you do it; A fan collapses and Mark Rebillet shows how to control a crowd: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7KGnMgK4H44.html
The idea of dying in such a way sounds terrifyingly claustrophobic and in an environment where you can't even hear your own thoughts it's just. Beyond terrifying. May they rest in peace
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@@fruzzyy5587 bruh you doubled the number of people there and Linkin Park literally forced the whole show to a grinding stop just cause someone fell in the mosh pit. You can stop the concert if you actually want to the people are there literally to see him but you act like he has no influence to do anything at his own concert.
If you are ever in a crowd and you notice that you're losing your ability to choose which direction you move, it's time to get out. You're closing in on the density that makes a crowd behave as a liquid, and at that point you won't be able to escape.
This happened to me at a Skepta concert in London! I was in the middle of the crowd and started realizing it was getting harder to breathe. I did everything in my power to find an exit and got somebody to give me water. Luckily it was a small venue, but still quite scary.
There's a heavy metal band called five finger death punch that stopped a concert because of someone flipping someone else over their shoulder to the floor. The lead singer parted the crowd to get the fallen person medical attention and gave the assaulter a telling off. Five finger is honestly one of thw sweetest bands I know, and metal bands have so much care for their fans
People refuse to acknowledge that Travis Scott could've grabbed the microphone and say "Hey there's an ambulance, let them through." It's literally the LEAST he could've done.
@@phabiorules only the ones being pushed to the top. Sort by new and it's pretty evenly split. Plus I'm not just referring to this comment section. Just people in general
LMAO let them through to pass where?? everywhere was packed and they couldn't even find a way to breathe than to make space for a WHOLE CAR to pass plus some guys where even on top of the ambulance car getting their 3 seconds of fame while people where screaming to get off as someone was dying, he even took to insta to brag about it. travis and THE AUDIENCE are to be held accountable. rip to the ones who lost their lives
Crowd crush is absolutely terrifying, i’ve been in them on a lesser scale, where your feet cannot take a step, you’re only balancing due to people being against you, and you’re at complete mercy to the waves. I can’t imagine how scared these people must have been, dying like this. The difference i’ve had at concerts is the bands periodically instruct the crowd to move tf back and pick up anyone who has fallen. Travis and the organisers all have blood on their hands.
I've been in a crowd collapse. Not being able to move at all while bodies are piled on top of you is a horrifying thing to experience. ESPECIALLY bad because my wife was also pinned, and hearing her screams of pain and terror made everything just that much more terrifying.
I’ve never seen a good way to die. Everyone has blood on their hands. Travis was just doing a job. Perhaps he did that job a little too well and his label and the venue organizers should have done a lot more.
@@victormacdougall6395 bro, we get it, youre 14 and love travis scott, but he knew what was going on and chose to activly make it worse, there is no defense for that.
@@Cbd_7ohm yeah, all of that is true, but they werent holding a gun to his head forcing him to make the situation worse. at ANY point he could have paused for people to chill out but he didnt, and that shows a clear lack of empathy and disregard for human life, 2 traits that most sane adults would consider extremely shitty. that is why he is being called out.
Holy fuck, remember that horrifying scene at the end of Akira where he just starts fucking crushing everyone to death with his giant mutant god body? That's basically what Travis Scott did. Except Tetsuo at least had the decency to feel like shit when it was happening
I’m a huge fan of $uicideBoy$ and at every concert they always remind the crowd “if anyone falls you stop in your tracks and help them up or get them help if they need it”. I feel as if a good handful of performers truly don’t care about their fans well being.
combing through the comments it seems a general growing lack of etiquette at concerts is becoming an issue. its good to hear many bands are very firm with what flies and what doesn't amid a tragedy like this.
Literally that’s what they said during the Portland show and it was even my first concert 😂😂😂 I was expecting this shit but instead only witnessed a few fights and a push towards the mosh but that’s it. This is just something that could’ve been prevented
Qualified events steward here. Crowd control is an absolute bare essential for anyone planning a large-scale event. After the Hillsborough disaster in 1989 (when 96 football fans were crushed to death in the UK) there were serious overhauls to British events law, and stewarding began to be taken much more seriously. Whenever permission for an event is sought, the organizers must state how many are predicted to attend and provide adequate room for every attendant, as well as providing adequate staff and emergency services Ever been to a festival and found yourself having to choose between two artists of about equal fame you wanna see perform at the same time? That's a deliberate crowd management tactic. It makes sure ppl don't get too concentrated in one area. And its why SAFE festivals arent climaxed around one single stage by a headliner thats much more massive than the other acts. It seems however that the US is much less squeamish about cramming in as many paying customers as possible to protect the egoes and wealth of organizers, major promoters and mainstream artists. The fact that the concert wasnt paused and safety announcements werent made is an absolutely putrid shock to someone like me who's studied the horrendous effects of poor festival planning. Travis and the organizers either knew that deaths/injuries could result from their ill planning and still gambled on it for the sake of greed, or they were simply incompetent and unprepared to handle a large crowd. Either way, this would be grounds for multiple life sentences in a country that values the sanctity of human life over profit When you go to a big event, make an escape plan. If the crowd starts getting too thick, keep your elbows at your sides but angled slightly forward, bring your arms up against your chest, cross your hands over the ball of the wrist and flatten your fingers over your breasts (try it now, make yourself as flat as possible). This will act as armour to protect your ribs. Control the urge to panic. Close your eyes and focus on breathing. Reassure yourself that you will get through this. In the same way that panic spreads from person to person, so can calmness. Be that person who puts faith in those you are surrounded by. And most importantly: hold public events organizers to account. It is your legal right and a moral obligation to the victims of horrible tragedies like this. Ask a member of staff where the fire extinguishers or first-aid tents are. If its indoors, ask at the bar if the ceiling tiles are made of fireproof material, what the maximum safe capacity is, or when the next test for the sprinklers is due. You are legally entitled to request this knowledge at any time, and the staff are not allowed to obstruct or threaten you if you decide to report them to authorities. If you cant get an immediate and satisfactory answer then they haven't been trained enough and its probably time to start drafting a lawsuit. Have fun, be aware of your rights, and make sure concerts continue being the safe haven we need in a post-pandemic world. Stay safe everyone
Travis knows exactly what goes on at his shows, the documentary that came out a few years ago showed all the same thing people passing out, being crushed against gates and busting down fences. The fact it’s a regular occurrence it’s surprising it took this long for someone to pass. Rip to the victims
@@ryanljc6026 yes...demonic charisma is known by how people faint..passout...frantic to destruction....raging...violent etc....it's actually demonic possession...you see that in Kundalini churches too...frantic...disorderly..that's the false feel good spirit of Satan. Counterfeit to holy ghost...Serpentine spirits possess his followers.That is ALWAYS a sign...people running after them for miles while they are in a car....This was told by a person who was in the occult and a singer....That's what they get...They get fame..popularity etc but their music has to take people into the abys... I have seen the hole demon come out of it's a black tunnel...tunnels in dream reals are portals....I was in a vision and prayed to God to see the demon world but I couldn't get myself to go in....But on another time I saw a vision of a demon that was troubling me falling in it on continuously none stop...the bottomless pit. It looked like a ps2 cutscene. Travis Scott is blatantly showing it...He belongs to this world.
this makes me feel so hopeless about humanity. and im scared. genuinely. im claustrophobic. my worst fear ever is crushing under the weight of thousands of people and dying of suffocation. my prayers go out to all the affected people, rest in peace.
I'm the same way and that's why avoid big crowds. I remember one black friday sale that I went to and the shop I was in couldn't control the crowd waiting at the door so they all rushed in. I was shoulder to shoulder with people. There was a lot of pushing and a few people lost their balance and went down. I managed to get out but I suffered a panic attack right after. I can't even imagine how scared all these people must have been. smh
I think that's an Agoraphobia - a fear of crowds of people. I have it as well - I can't tell why, but I just have a giant fear whenever there are thousands of people around me close to me.
I frequently go to EDM festivals and shows, crowd crushing is very real and i've experienced it on a smaller scale, where you're squished by so many people, it's not even on purpose, it's just poor coordination of people all standing in one small cluster that cannot fit everyone. Unpredictable movement can even cause the slightest wave where you're shoved against someone and it causes a domino effect of you pushing into someone else in a direction and they push the next few people etc. Festival environments as well are hot and sweaty and there is a lack of oxygen when you're in a cluster. No surprise that it made people unconscious and unfortunately led to their death What an absolute shitshow this story has been
He's definitely at fault, he literally encourages the crowd to "rage" and come up in front. Edit: note, there's a reason other bands can "rage" yet not have a number of deaths on their list.
it was an all ages concert. how many ppl were there? 50,000 or some crazy number idk a 14 yr old died. moms had kids and thier ten yr olds w them. Also i hear rumors of travis singing and saying stuff like "give me your souls" kylie jenner posts a snapchat video of ambulance and travis is singing in the background. And then she makes a post pretending she didnt know what was happening.
Crowd crush is absolutely fucking terrifying. At a TTC concert it almost happened to me, but I just ended up using all my strength to move to the middle of the crowd where people were less crazy. If I hadn't I likely would have passed out within a few minutes. It's fucking horrible that people died from it
3 years ago Travis stopped the concert because a fan was injured but what did he do when there's like 8 people dying in the concert and 300+ injured, He did nothing.
He could easily stop it, even without cancelling the whole concert. I remember a Linkin Park video where Chester Bennington suddenly stopped singing and pointed at a person in the crowd who collapsed and LITERALLY started to tell people around this person to make more space so security people could help them. After they were taken away from the place, the band started to perform again, from the beginning of the song they stopped. I loved it so much, you could see how Chester genuinely cared about his fans, he was really observing the crowd and noticing if something bad was happening to someone and he didn't hestitate to react and it wasn't ruining the concert at all but giving him extra respect points from his fans. In case someone doesn't know, I'm talking here about an older concert of an extremely popular nu-metal band and fans were really crazy in there but still, not as crazy to just crush and sufocate someone. Early 2000s, this time was blessed.
Chester was the fucking best. Went to a Linkin Park show and when someone fell he shut the show down until they were back up. After that he said something to the effect that if another person falls without being helped back up that they wouldn't play anymore. Thats how you run your shows, you are there for the fans and Chester gave his all to us that night.
I feel like if he pointed out something wrong more people would have died. Trampling each other and being all around dumb. RIP to the people who've fallen.
I have been at a concert where Chester stopped the show until the pit calmed down. He cared about his fans and did what he could to stop the chaos....RIP Chester
I'll be honest, he could have apologized for 5 years and it still wouldn't be okay. We already know his priorities (aka he stopped a concert over a shoe but not dead people).
People defending him don’t take life seriously enough. Imagine that was YOU, dying at a TRAVIS SCOTT CONCERT for gods sake. They had lives, families, it could have been absolutely avoidable if the producers actually gave a single shit about the people in the crowd.
I think the most evil culprits in this entire tragedy were the people stopping the ambulances from moving by dancing on top of them for clout. That’s just inexcusable
I've literally been to concerts with moshpits going the whole time and one time a guy was passed out on the floor completely limp just before the final song where the artist was hyping everyone up to create moshpits in a crowd of over 20,000 people. This was at the back of the standing section but the second the artist realised, the concert was stopped for 5 minutes whilst the crowd created a shield around him and allowed security to stretcher him out. That's all it took. Travis can say how sorry he is and can push blame onto the organisers but if he had said to stop, it would have. He should be ashamed of himself. The organisers and him should face manslaughter charges.
He had also removed a tweet that he made earlier that night encouraging fans that couldnt get tickets due to sellout, to storm the barricades and overpower security to get in. So the venue being over capacity was a direct result of him encouraging it.
Unfortunately that’s the reality. People will completely forget it after a few months. Even now when I see people try and bring up this incident, they’ll get attacked by Travis fans who still believe he did nothing wrong. It’s disgusting
@@Mikel23xd I was about to say that. He’s got the bag, he just enjoys the chaos. It’s literally built into his persona and performances. We have to care for ourselves and not expect out of touch millionaires to care. Even at that there’s people continuing on with dead bodies next to them. Nobody cared not just Travis.
@@user-ey4ut9uc8w I deleted my comment cause I couldn't get an edit... but it's mainly travis fault he got the money and fancy things and people follow the leader
Yeah, because of that I believe he should never be allowed to perform at any event under any circumstances if he cares that little about the safety of his fans
what was he supposed to do from on stage? from what i could tell, the mob was far away, he probably had no idea what was happening. correct me if I'm wrong
I knew John Hilgert, a 14 year old & freshman in highschool that died at the concert. I wasn’t super close with him specifically, but I’m close to his friend Bennett who was also knocked unconscious but thankfully made it out. It’s so heartbreaking to hear of the losses, but it’s even more crushing to hear that somebody I KNOW lost their life. I hope this opens peoples’ eyes and they fix their security. My heart goes out to everyone injured or affected.
Why post his full name here? Also your mutual friends... and for what? Clout? Imagine if a family member finds out about his death from a fucking youtube comment.. also I don't think your friend Bennet is too happy about you posting his name online.
This happened at a Fatboy Slim "gig" I went to in the UK back in the early 2000s, it was on the beach and around 200,000 people turned up as it was free... the beach had a 20-30' concrete wall along the right-hand side, with thousands of people slowly pushing in from the back and everyone near the front being crushed against the wall. I was right near the front from early in the gig, and ended up being dragged up the wall by people above while nearly unconcious. being pushed from all directions to the point you cant breath in after breathing out is horrible, felt like forever between breaths. A few people died and loads of people were badly injured. it's something I'll never forget...was amazing up until then. RIP all music fans that die this way, it shouldn't happen these days.
@@jequariusp8816 It took 2 years of my last high school life. High school only has 3 years in my country. I lost my last chuck of childhood and teen life to a pandemic
