Trekyards EP51 - Production Constitution Class 

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Okay, I have not seen the episode in a long time, but I know this image is from "Day of the Dove" and each level you see here translates to two levels on the ship.

I don't necessarily think that the manuals are contradicting each other, but rather showing possible re-fitting, re-arranging, and trying out new things to improve storage space, and or efficiency. As they have gone to spacedock, and mention repairs and stuff in the series. Things change when you get the ship fixed up. Like what McCoy said in TMP: "I know engineers; they love to change things."

Those numbered marks on secondary hull are for magnetic docking clamps, when ship is in drydock on ground. In designing they were placed there to show lineage of ship from our ships which have water line numbers.

17:00 That diagram isn't implying that there's one deck in the middle of the saucer. It is labeled 'Pressure Compartments'.

One reason the anti-matter storage is near the bottom of the ship and not deep inside is because of the potential need to eject the anti-matter in the case of failing containment. Remember, anti-matter will mutually annihilate any matter it contacts (not just the deuterium stored specifically for that purpose), so if the magnetic bottles fail, they need to get it away from the ship FAST. If it's in the center of the ship, they're screwed.

Maybe when it says Starship Class, whoever was in charge of the typing up the plaque at the San Francisco yard pressed 'tab' too early and that's just there to say, "Type in the starship class here" and he just dropped the ball. Then when they printed it out, they just rolled with it.

The pods in the middle of the engineering floor - Scotty's secret whisky stills? They appear in episodes where his stocks are running down. Everyone else either just thinks that they are engineering equipment or keep quiet because they want to avoid having to clear out the human waste tanks again (its all gotta go somewhere).

In TOS in certain episodes we see two different engine room depending on the story plots. My explanation is one is the warp engine room and one is the impulse engine room

🖖😎👍Very cool and very informative and very well done and fact based indeed guys 👌...

LOL, So after doing some math and working on plans for a Constitution model. I have come to the realization that the Filming Model that is in the Smithsonian is very damn close to 1/84th scale. Their claim that it is 1/96th scale is in error. The math doesn't divide right with his measurements and to what the actual length of the ship would be if it were really built. Not to mention that there were several line drawings in 3 or 4 sources claiming that the filming model was 10 feet long when it was really 11 foot 3 and a half inches. Then on top of that their was 2 separate meter claims with one being accurate at 288.64 meters, but some sources claimed 289.7 which doesn't correctly match the 947 feet that is marked as the ships actual length if it were built. So dividing 11,364 inches ( = 947" ) by 84 we come up with 11.27 feet which after converting the decimal is damn close to the 11'3.5" that the modeler is claiming the filming model really is.

I am just watching this now as you approach 250!! Congrats guys and keep up the great work!!

I believe they are showing different areas of Engineering. The pods in the middle of engineering were shown in a couple of episodes to contain the dilithium crystal matrix.

Turbolifts are pretty advanced tech if you think about it considering we currently still do not have elevators that can go sideways as well as up and down.

I don't remember if it was the blueprints or the Tech Manual, but one of them said all the elevator stations had a turbo-elevator at them. When one was activated, the one at the destination would take a different route to replace it.

I love those tiny "length" markings. I made sure to include them on my own model. Somehow I assumed they were measurements of the ship by feet, maybe not.

Just a thought on the torpedo launchers under the bridge section. The Bridge is going to be one of the heavily shielded/armored sections of the ship so putting explosive ordnance in that area may make sense. If the ship has a photon torpedo magazine penetration it is history in any case.

23:05 You do realize that objects get really hot in space though, right? Burning off heat on space craft is actually a big problem for long term space travel.

I am no expert for space physics, but as far as I know, getting rid of heat and waste-energy in space is actually a problem. Space is cold, yes, but it is also vastly empty. In space, there is no air to conduct the heat. Thus, the only way to get it out are radiators (at least on our space station, that is). So, with the immense heat of plasma in the warp engines, it might actually make sense to have something like intercoolers.

Aww cmon Cap'n Foley, those things in the middle of the floor of engineering hold the Dilithium crystals.

30:20 the "Starship Class" - I have always watched TOS in a dubbed version and only recently noticed that there is a big distinction between "spaceship/space vessel" and "Starship" with TOS. I guess the reason why they used "starship class" at the very beginning, was that the Enterprise was supposed to be the first ship of this new "Starship" space vessel. I really like it how always pointed out that the Enterprise is a Starship and not some ordinary freighter.

Some infrared sensors will use sapphire windows, as IR light can pass through sapphire lenses but not silica glass. That may be part of what's up with the four top squares.

I appreciate the original Constitution because it was the one that set the tone, started it all. That NCC-1701 is legendary. But the NX-01 was a much cooler looking Enterprise. Maybe Im biased because I think it was a superior show? It was my favorite show for a number of reasons. I loved how they always got their asses kicked and still managed to survive. But the NX was sleek, realistic and it had a submarine vibe to it that help me to appreciate the aesthetic much more than the enterprise from TOS

3:12 are actually 2 different constitution class ships, the one on the left is the the Farragut, and the one on the right is the Enterprise

Floor thing is the Dilithium Chrystal Chamber.

that shot @ 14:35 if you guys are wondering is actualy shades of the Mirror Mirror epp. Where kirk and crew end up in the Terran Empire Universe. And indeed yes in time. But in Space aswell as time. on the Terran ISS Enterprise.

Interesting. I have stated before that the scale that I came up with for the blue prints/line drawings made the filming model essentially 1/87 scale (HO Train scale). It was suggested to me that they didn't know if that was on purpose by Matt Jefferies or if he was just wanting to make the model 10 feet in length and it was an accident. since the writers guide, and the measurements were wrong, and the model is really 1/96 scale it makes more sense now that the scale was chosen by Matt Jefferies. This was a common scale for models of large naval ships like Battleships from the 1940's up into the 1970's and especially in RC ships. The European equivalent is 1/100 scale. The difference of the two scales are so small that it is only 3% different. So a model of a battleship in both scales is almost identical. I also find it interesting that the scale and system that is usually used in TOS Star Trek is Metric. I wonder if Gene did this on purpose because most of the world was using it, and he figured that in 200 years that the English Standard System would cease to exist. Anyway, good episode guys, and I know you filmed it almost 4 years back, but I haven't seen all of these yet.

hey guys, I have watched about 50 episodes, and I'm a major trek fan, I'm 35 years of age, so tos was before my time and recently I have been watching the show because I felt I owed it to the franchise, I'm almost through season 2 and I'm finding that I have to force myself to continue watching, I hear you guys say Connie this and Connie that, but I just fail to see what makes it so great, I think the design leaves tons to be desired, and the stories and acting are just as undesirable, and quite frankly if I have to hear bones say kirk is dead one more time I'm just gonna flip out, please enlighten me as to what is so great about this, but I must say I do like all the movies, and I like all the other series even enterprise, do you guys like it so much just because it was the first or am I missing something? please let me know

Would love to see a Constitution II class!. A modern take that stays true to the Constitution refit from the TOS movies!. It would need to be huge and dwarf the Galaxy class!. 1000 meters!. Two meters of Polarized Ablative Armor!. No port holes just holographic projection windows !. 80 or so phaser arrays or pulse phaser turrets !. 1 huge phaser array that wraps around the whole saucer section ,10 forward firing photon/ quantum torpedo launchers 4 aft!. Maybe two Blue Andorian lance phasers like in TOS!. Huge launch bay filled with Danube runabouts!. And the first ship is named the KIRK!. Would be Awesome!!..

The box "thing" on the floor in main engineering, if memory servers me correctly, houses the dilithium crystals or at least provides access to them. In the episode Elaan of Troyius Scotty accesses the damaged dilithium crystals in the unit and replaces them with the imperfect ones from the necklace given to Elaan by the ambassador thus restoring at least partial warp capability to the ship and saving the day.

Gentlemen, I thank you for showing so much in this episode, but there is somewhere no trek tech explanation has gone before, Where is the damn Swimming Pool and Bowling Alley?

the Commander mentioned that there was NO way off the Bridge of the Constitution Class, this is not true. the Origional Technical guide to the Enterprise shows a hatch in the deck plating to climb down or up one deck. I don't think this was ever shown until First Contact. I cannot remember if it was shown in TNG, DS9 or Voyager. I would consider not having some sort if escape from the Bridge irrisponsable.

When discussing aft weapons on the Enterprise you can't use the Defiant as an analog because the Defiant in In a Mirror Darkly had rear firing torpedoes. The Enterprise clearly doesn't as shown at 22:20 where you can see that it only has one rear firing phaser bank.

It seems that a lot of those Enterprise side-view blueprints, even the LCARS, don't correctly depict the shape of the secondary hull, with the upper part being conical (as was the TOS version), whereas the lower part is curvy (as was the refit).

Clear that tube I believe that is from "The Naked Time" it has been a long time but I do believe that is the episode you are thinking of.

23:08 Object don't cool/freeze in space, because of a lack of medium to cool it with. Sort of similar like soundwaves in space. Objects can be cooled through infrared radiation tho.

the white things on the floor are the Dilithium couplings ! in the EP the Elas, one of the aliens tampered with the Dilithium couplings to try to destroy the ship.

Guys I love this series!!! Could you please do one on the Daedalus class ship soon? I am very curious about the history of this ship . Thanks!

Anti-matter storage on the edge of the hull, yeah, maybe, especially if you need to eject it in a hurry.

I left the grid lines on my 1/350th TOS Enterprise model. For me I like them and prefer them too.

I see two major design issues.one one way into and onto the bridge?? second no escape pods.how doe's crew abandon ship? there's just few shuttles

The Starship class actually refers to what the Enterprise was during the original TOS run. Originally the Enterprise was not a constitution class it was a Starship Class. Constitution Class did not become canon until ST:TMP when it was placed on the dedication plaque for the Connie refit.

In mirror mirror (Tos) wasn't the alt enterprise the cage model (spiky engine) I could be wrong, it's been a few years . The other universe has less advanced teck ?

Those Constitution class ships u actualy show in that photo that were trashed were part of Commodore Wesley's War Game task force in TOS epp The Ultimate Computer. But I think the main one out of the that got destroyed the most was the USS Excalibur. While the Potemkmin or whatever it was called and the others were moving off.

In tos it was Star Ship class though on the wall plate :)

Photon torpedoes wouldn't explode when shot because they wouldn't be armed in storage.

A ship's drydock is dry, so... if a space ship goes into drydock... Should it be spaceless? On a planet maybe?

the number markings on the hull are nonsence markings. however in the star trek universe they indicate a hatch, port or some other structure. similar to the numbered bridge controls. A113, M212 ect.........

the model company is called diamond select

11:00 - Romulan spy hiding behind the Bridge walls. Captain Kirk orders, "Total Silence" aboard the ship to avoid being discovered by another ship. Suddenly, everyone hears the hidden toilet flushing.

So when will you do the _Where No Man Has Gone Before_version?

The Naked Time. Kevin O'Riley locked himself in Engineering to control ship systems such as the Turbo Lifts.

where can you get all the photos that you use?

The torpedo tubes below the bridge was, in fact, a Franz Joseph interpretation upon which Star Fleet Battles was based and not necessarily cannon. There's really no consistent on screen representation of weapon placement. It varied from one week to the next. I always found that to be especially irritating.

The "Deflector"... A "navigational deflector" is a good idea, and makes sense. BUT... It's OBVIOUS that the dish was originally not conceived as a "navigational deflector". It's a sensor dish. It's a parabolic dish with a sensor-spike, just like a satellite dish. That sort of device is for RECEIVING energy, not projecting it. The point of this is that there are elements of the original design that were deliberate and well thought out, that were later retconned to, at the very least, make less sense, or retconned to be just stupid and make no sense. But now those dumb things are "canon".

HELP-! What is the name & author of the recent book by the guy who did the paint-job on the ENTERPRISE REFIT for STTMP ...?? D.A.

at 17:10 that could be your Boneventure instead of the God awful cartoon one.

idk why but i just hate the connie abbreviation

the big flaws with the constitution class was its vulnerable engineering section.

7:24 The things on the Engineering room floor are supposed to be where the dilithium crystals go and then that recesses into the floor to be hidden. 12:15 In real world naval construction from the same shipyard of the same class of ships will often have variations of where things are located. As things are being built small advances in tech or things they learned from the construction of the previous one will be incorporated into the next. 21:30 A lot of the text on the displays you show are barely readable even at 720p because so much of the screen space is occupied by the Lcars. You might want to consider resizing even if only briefly for a few moments when each new schematic comes up. 25:36 SFB goes with the 3 sets of two on the CA Possibly 3 on top and 3 on the bottom sfb.swa-gaming.org/ssds/FederationExpandedCA.jpg 27:50 Multicolour on Bussards. Just light the northern lights. the collected gas is ionized from the magnetic collection funnel. 30:47 SFB assumes the 4 round things are where the photons come out. sfb.swa-gaming.org/ssds/FederationExpandedCA.jpg

The cross section model is the Revell model (very inaccurate) and they just added the cut-away parts.

looked through all the classes of Star Trek I can not find the Connie class starship

Never liked how the original looked from a profile side shote. But from the top or the bottom or aft..........yeah.

oh you have to love ther beautiful conny

Bridge offset to left

yea, the Prostititiution class

i like the oringal enterprise (which is my screen savior) and i wish jj abrams didn't ruin it. "i made the enterprise a hotrod " says jj Abrams, well screw you jj the enterprise is not a hotrod it is a exploration ship. oh captain foley your all-some and i am a captain of my ship which is now a rifit consitution. USS ENTERP1RSE NCC-901701