idk, i’m a falcons fan and there is so much talk abt getting so many different players. i think no matter who takes him it will be a huge risk. i can see the pats get him
He is my main target as a 49ers fan. I'm a big Zach Wilson fan as well, and when it became clear the Jets would not pick anyone else, I started studying Lance's full game tapes, and was really impressed. I agree that there is some refinement needed in his accuracy, but I actually think he's a better passer than Cam Newton coming out of college, and he's much more accurate than Josh Allen was coming out of Wyoming. Allen's completion pct. hovered around 55-56%, while Lance's was at 67% in 2019. Hope he goes 3rd overall, and maybe sits a year to lear the system, and then he can really be an impactful player for us at the most important position, which is something we really haven't had consistently since Steve Young tbh
@@rickyh4834 Yeah it's fine. He made a pre-snap read based on the leverage of the DB and threw it on-time and accurately. It's a 1v1 based on leverage. No problem at all
His QB coach said he's never had formal QB training until this draft process so a lot of his inaccuracy came from mechanical flaws that he has fixed his year. Nobody had ever formally coached him on QB mechanics so he didn't even know what he was doing wrong. I think he will be a lot better and more ready than people realize.
If he bust. Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch and the whole entire Niners franchise will be dead for another decade. We’re talking about a coach that blew 2 superbowls lmao.
At the end of the day, it’s all about what the coaching staff does for their guy. Build the system around his skill set and I’m sure he’ll be fine. Try to make a guy change his game to fit a different system? Most likely not gonna work.
This exactly. If you put him in a scheme where he needs to stand in the pocket and hit tight windows, you're better off taking Jones. Trey Lance will be a phenomenal addition to the right team.
Exactly, one thing the "Big Board" and other draft pick lists forget is they are picking just one piece, although an important piece, of a team. Now if the the right assessment is done and the QB's skillset fits the scheme, all the fans (and the team) need to hope for is that the coaching staff and team philosophy don't change.. I firmly believe Rodgers has been the best QB every season since 2010 but due to factors out of his control he only has one SB ring - you can go through every season he's been with the GBP's and the issue stands out, like last year, bad coaching calls and a non-supportive draft.
He has the tools. The accuracy is due in a large part to his poor weight shift at times. Coming out of college guys like Alex smith were very accurate but lacked movement and arm strength. Give a good QB whisperer a guy with all the tools and you have something. He is going to be a good one.
@@jayzfreshx3 It's not always about getting picked highest. He's going to a winning franchise in 49ers where he has great pieces surrounding him plus O-minded coaches. Getting picked 3rd is still extremely high, why would he take the risk? And lose a year's worth of salary of $8.5M with it. JAX has the #1 pick this year but they have Trevor so he wasn't gonna go #1 anyway. Then you have Lions, Jets, and Texans after that.. who wants to go there
i’m from Fargo, ND and I saw a LOT of Bison games and I think that if he needs to go to a team with top tier weapons in order to do well. He’s athletic enough to escape if there’s pressure but if his receivers are bad it won’t matter.
Why do you think he needs to go to a team with good receivers? His receivers in college weren't bad but none of them are getting drafted in the first round. Maybe one in the second round
@@lenwe4205 because he played FCS football he didn’t need great receivers to beat FCS team but NFL defenses are so much better that he’ll need good receivers.
its different because mac jones faced against good defenses rather than lance also. In the end I think it balances itself out because mac jones found his receivers open and made good reads. If mac just tossed it up recklessly I would agree with that
@@joshace4239 I’d argue NDSUs WRs were less dominant against opposing DBs then Alabama’s was. I mean Jones had receivers that were A drafted and regularly beat up other drafted DBs. NDSUs out preformed them but didn’t bear them up. Bruise sure not beat
Easily the #3 overall pick to the 49ers. The perfect new-age QB for Kyle Shanahan. QB Power, Bootlegs, Fast processing, reads the entire field, Big Arm to spread the field and open up the offense
one thing the "Big Board" and other draft pick lists forget is they are picking just one piece, although an important piece, of a team. Now if the the right assessment is done and the QB's skillset fits the scheme, all the fans (and the team) need to hope for is that the coaching staff and team philosophy don't change.. I firmly believe Rodgers has been the best QB every season since 2010 but due to factors out of his control he only has one SB ring - you can go through every season he's been with the GBP's and the issue stands out, like last year, bad coaching calls and a non-supportive draft.
This is a fair assessment. Though I do wonder if scouts/analysts take geography and weather conditions into consideration. For example: in some of his outdoor games you can clearly tell that the coaching staff put extra emphasis on the run game as he was throwing the ball into 20+mph winds. Something like that might not show up on tape, but perhaps would be better understood by scouts who actually attended those games.
Great job Samuel. I like him but he will need to work on those mechanics for one year. I think it’s a mistake to start him this year. The 49er offense is the right scheme for him. I like to see him throw deep and intermediate routes with accuracy in year 2. 49er faithful!
20/20 hindsight from 2023: looks like he is the bust side of boom or bust. His oline looks great in these highlights so probably inflated his college performance.
Man you can really break down the game! We've been working on some NFL Draft Scouting Reports for the top prospects in the 2021 NFL Draft. Would you be interesting in doing a video together?
I wud be scared to take Lance in the top 15. I have real issues with a qb not being accurate. Cam Newton proved he cud throw the ball in college against top competition. Tbh i don't think he is a first rounder but I understand that because he is a qb and he has so much room to grow and potential.
@@paidtourist6563 Lol Josh Allen was the best player on his team and threw the ball in horrible conditions sometimes and I was high on Russell Wilson(even tho I dont like his personality). Also i wasn't into scouting players when Steve McNair was drafted when i was in jr high so i dont even remember him coming out. None of them had the accuracy issues Lance does either.
@@deshannonjames981 You need to look at his talent displayed, his projected improvements, his ceiling, and the system he was in and then couple that with his measurables, his mechanics, and his playing style. His throwing motion is very similar to Russell Wilson as well as the arch in his deep ball. His body size and certain plays showed that his style is similar to Steve McNair. You're ONLY looking at stats. You can't do that to get an accurate projection of a player. If you just looked at stats, then why were Josh Heiple, Sam Bradford, and Matt Leinhert all busts? Why was Ryan Leaf a bust? Why did Carson Wentz torch the entire NFL in just his 2nd year in the league? Why did Kurt Warner go from bagging groceries to the Arena League, to winning a superbowl and taking another team to a superbowl?? When you look at Trey, you are grading him as an upperclassman against other upperclassmen. You have realize that he's already as good or better than upperclassmen in a lot of areas as an underclassman. His level of improvement just from redshirt freshman year to now is drastic with his footwork and throwing motion. Imagine how much more improved he will be in 1 more year. Trey will be a star in the NFL
@@paidtourist6563 There is no way to "project improvements." It's impossible. Especially as it pertains to accuracy. You can hope and pray, but you can't project that.
Hey man I’m a 49ers fan, I want u to be honest for our fit and future who should we take, me personally I think we take feilds, would be good for Kyle to have someone that is very mobile and accurate
I'm a big niners fan as well and I think either Fields or Lance is the right pick. I'll be extremely happy with either as long as it's not Mac Jones lol
@@lenwe4205 I'm a big Niners fan too. I was saying Fields or Lance too until I went and watched Lance's full games. This videos confirmed what I saw with my own eyes. Lance is very inaccurate. Very. I was shocked at how inaccurate he is when I watched. And how he misses open people and leaves the pocket to early. Now my minds says Fields, Fields, Fields. I still don't want Mac Jones lol But I don't want Lance now either.
Great video! Looking back now you couldn’t have said it any better. He was a boom or bust. His main struggles in college did reflect in the NFL. Throwing with accuracy, anticipation, and decisiveness really hurt him. Sadly I don’t think he improved much from college to the NFL. His footwork and mechanics were still poor as well as his accuracy and throwing with anticipation. I want to know why he hasn’t improved. He’s had a lot of different QB coaches. He hasn’t played much. 49ers was also a mess. I just think he needed time, the right qb coach, the right team, and someone who believes in him. I think right now should be a great time for him to figure out how to outgrow his old self. Although his future in the NFL is skeptical, he is still very young and may just need a chance
If the Packers traded down last year for a high pick this year/a chance to get into the top 10 with a trade, And got Trey Lance because of that, then I can see him being super dominant once Rodgers retires. As a bears fan, I’m glad that didn’t happen
Seriously dude. Arizona grabbing Collins was a good pick, another freak athlete to add to that squad, lets see if the DC figures out what to do with the talent he has over there. Good thing the Seahawks and Rams sold out the past seasons and didn't have a first-round pick haha
As an eagles fan I'm a little biased towards the NDSU QB's lol. However, going off raw arm talent/athleticism, dude looks almost exactly the same as Wentz in throwing motion and play style. Kind of a run and gun with heavy option and bootlegg and struggling accuracy at times. Wentz was the more polished prospect but Lance could have a similar ceiling. I say he's like Josh Allen or Lamar where it takes him a year to get acclimated but I think given the right offensive scheme he can succeed.
@@SamuelGoldNFL fields has an unnatural throwing motion, wobbles his balls, he has a mediocre arm from the pocket, and had a scheme where he mostly threw to his first read that didn’t prepare him adequately for the nfl. Just like Haskins and Darnold I don’t see the hype. Lance I’d take first overall, I love him as a prospect.
@@Primenumber19 What are you talking about. Fields can launch it 60 yards from the pocket, Wobbly ball? are you insane, He throws one of the prettiest balls in the class along with Wilson and Lawrence. And a scheme where he throws to the first read? Again what are you watching, Fields has easily gone through his progressions, his only problem with me when it comes to progressions is sometimes he’s a little hesitant when actually throwing to that 3rd or 4th read. And OSU’s system has drastically changed when Haskins and Fields were QB’s. When Haskins was QB he was 41st in production through the air, meaning he throws a lot of screen and short passes. In both of Fields years of starting he was 1 in POWER 5 for production through the air at 70% his 1st year and 71% his second year. You don’t know what you are talking about at all
@@connorsullivan9811 fields dips the ball beneath his elbow when he passes. It elongates his motion, puts pressure on his elbow that shouldn’t be there, and makes it harder to be pinpoint. He’s trying to correct this from what I saw at his faux combines but he’s got a long way. Fields technique at play action isn’t very good, and the offense he ran resulted in more first read throws of any QBs in the class. Ohio’s offense is not geared to properly prepare players for the nfl, it’s to win at the college level. From a pro scout perspective that equates to bad coaching because it results in built in flaws that become hard to correct. Especially for qbs. And yes his ball wobbles, and I don’t like his torque flat footed from the pocket. Jones has a stronger arm in that regard, and that is what most teams value now over long ball distance. Could I be wrong? Sure, a Daniel Snyder or some owner who listens to homeless people for scouting tips might fall in love and override the scouts. But the 49ers? I’d be shocked. But then I’d be happy because I would get to learn why I was wrong. I learned more from being wrong about Matt Ryan than I did being right about Josh Allen.
The opponents chasing him around the field look like small H.S. players...Cam Newton played at Florida and then Auburn...both top tier SEC teams. I just don't get how anyone can watch Trey's college tape and think he looks explosive either with his arm, brain or legs.
I see a D1 athlete playing against D2 competition. Mediocre at best passer that relies on running to make plays. He's gonna need to sit for a few years to be developed. IMO Fields is better at every aspect of the position.
IMO Trey Lance isn’t a top 15 pick level of comp is a concern he needs a year no matter where he goes he has the tools but there’s a lot a questions too
A division II QB with upside potential. If the Giants didn't draft Daniel Jones early in the 1st round. He would have still been available deep into the 3rd and maybe 4th round. Jimmy G was considered good because the cheating Patriots drafted him? I wasn't a big fan of Kyler Murray going into the draft. He went from deep 1st round to #1 overall. Great athletic ability, but that doesn't make a great NFL QB. Compared to Trey Lance. Kyler Murray was a can't miss #1 overall pick. This guy, hasn't played the Big 10 or SEC teams. Basically one level above community college football. There is this hype train that appears from time to time in the NFL. They find a player in the rough just around the fringes. Then they insist through group think that he is a diamond in the rough with unlimited upside potential. This is the NFL we are talking about here. They are bigger, faster and hit harder than any other level of football. Kyle Allen from Wyoming, a Division I school was criticized by every draft scout going into the draft. His only upside was the guy can throw the ball 80 yards. My draft analysis of Trey Lance. This guy is going to suck and be terrible.
@@paidtourist6563 ahahahhaha Wentz is a top 5 qb??? The eagles just paid 30 million to get rid of him, he was the WORST statistical Qb in the league last year, Allen has had 1 good season out Of 3. Let’s see how he does this year. Good thing you’re not a gm. You’ve fully demonstrated you’re an idiot and don’t know football. 🤣😂😅🤣😆
@@krackshot322 Throwing passes in shorts with no pass rush or defensive backs. You can’t be serious? Drew Lock had a good pro day as well. He’s trash!!!
