Trey Williams on deathcore breakdowns vs slams, how Dying Fetus switch it up | Aggressive Tendencies 

I love it when people talk gently, civil, and articulately about hellish music that involves carnage, audible destruction, random (or focused) violence, etc. Especially when they fade in and out of music and the discussion.

I like Trey. He's a cool dude.

Guy seems totally cool. Long live Dying Fetus!!! 🤘🏼

Cool story...... First time I saw Dying Fetus was with Waking The Cadaver, The Forest Gump Mile High Marathon and others. I saw Trey outside and i said "DUDE, PLEASE TELL ME YOURE GOING TO PLAY JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE TONIGHT!! THATS MY SONG!" and he was like "AHHH man i don't think we are...." and i told him how awesome he was and thanked him for comin through. Dying Fetus finally takes the stage, first song: Justifiable Homicide. That man knows how to get the most out of his fans hahahaha

Dying Fetus slams, but I wouldn't call them a slam band.

Next time im at work im gonna say “im gonna fetus grind this out”

3:07 "john John john John"

I love Trey so much

Probably my favourite drummer.

I like the way he explains and described this. And the fact that he fucking kills drums.

he is a cool guy that you can approach about metal question.

He reminds me of Alex Webster. Seems like a nice dude, knowledgeable and passionate about his craft. Oh yeah, and a fucking madman on his kit.

Interesting. I love slams and breakdowns...espcially the ones Dying Fetus does. Pretty blue eyes on Trey lol. Havent seen the new video until now....love that guitar twirl Johns doin. and speaking of "jun" riffs, end of Homicidal Retribution, "die again, as I cut and mutilate" is the best jun riff Ive ever heard.

Well said on all notes!

Saw these guys last night. Absolutely amazing show. So intense.

Yes Sir. preach it!!! No wonder this guy is one of the most talented drummers alive today!!!

DYING FETUS is the ultimate death metal band

You guys should interview some members from slam bands like abominable putridity, kraanium, embryectomy etc. Maybe some beat down hardcore band members too like bodybag, no zodiac, and knocked loose

gonna see them live tomorrow

This is fantastic advice for heavy song writing

Here's how I see it. Traditional breakdowns: common in thrash, groove, old school death metal, and even nu metal. Think of the slow part in War Ensemble by Slayer, or the part with spaced out riffs in 5 Minutes Alone by Pantera. These typically are not the types of breakdowns people complain about. Core breakdowns: common in metalcore and deathcore. These are the chug chug chug riffs. Listen to The End of Heartache by Killswitch Engage, or You Only Live Once by Suicide Silence. There isn't just one part, there are breakdowns in the entire song, especially with deathcore since there's no melodic chorus like metalcore has. I love deathcore but I can see why people get tired of the same guitar chugging over and over. Then there's slams: Listen to From Womb to Waste by Dying Fetus or Prey by Benighted. What I like about Prey particularly is that instead of slowing down at the "breakdown section" they speed up. I don't think a breakdown is always the slowdown part. Once again in slam death metal, the slams are throughout the song rather than just one part. Slams use multiple notes and create a groovy rhythm rather than just chugging. There are also bands like Ingested which blend deathcore and slam together so I can see why some people get confused.

in my opinion... ur drumskills are fucking sick! I really like the recordings! Its very clean and have no ghostnotes in it... A blast for the ears :) Saw you guys the first time with Hatebreed on Eastermonday in Switzerland. Thank to the whole DyingFetusband for the passion and staying real to Death Metal. \m/

Trey's the man

Slam riff is cool. Groovy.

best explanation

nailed it

This guy is talking about shit that matters 🙌

A breakdown, is like when you hear your favourite part in a Brutal song. For me, I love my metal sick and heavy. Only my taste of music can describe that, not my words!!! \m/

I think of a breakdown in its traditional definition. If there is a part where the song slows down and gets heavier it is a breakdown. I dont really see the need to differentiate between a slam and a breakdown, it serves the same purpose :P

0:30 *RU-vid captions:* Slams, I dub thee 'John Patterns'.

Dude trey is the coolest

Trey is awesome

I met Trey once. Laid back cool dude

Saw him in TORTURED in 1998 in Maryland.

Dude reign supreme had gnarly slams through and through so tight as fuck

Cool :') \m/

Fucking brilliant drummer

Long live Dying Fetus.

What’s the song you guys played at 1:33?

Fucking Trey. you're so smart!

This guy is fucking cool.

What was the song they played a clip of with live footage?

Trey is the shit!

The label I'd use for Dying Fetus is a "kick ass heavy as fuck band". That's the genre I dig the most.

I NEED SOME INTERNAL BLEEDING IS LITTTTTT

top band

cool guy

I like Dying Fetus, because they DON`T sound like some generic Deathcore band. He should put aside all that Slam Breakdown stuff. Dying Fetus is awesome because they are a super talented Trio that`s been around since early 90s and still make some of the best brutal and techie "Death Metal" there is these days.

f*cking legend

I can polka dance to DF! Way too brutal that!!!!!!!

LONG LIVE DYING FUCKING FETUUUUUSSSSSSSS

We all agree that he's very cool and the thing is that this type of vision of him musically is very nerdy..i like cool and nerdy combined and it's defenitly rare to see it outside the metal world.

Hmm

Great band but my favorite are still the older albums

Fuck yea, BDM

Fuckin A man... Fuckin A...

Slam is so much heavier lows

I've never thought of it that way. But yes, breakdowns are pretty much a cheat. But it's the sickest cheat you can use.

Slam is guitar. Breakdowns is drum beat.

Breakdown for me is not a breakdown of instruments, but a breakdown in melody, much like a drop or break in other genres.

Jeng jeng jeng is the law.

He looks like Kurt Cobain

I kinda hate songs that uses a LOT of slams or breakdowns or djent:ing or whatever this types of things are called. I need some melody along with the rhythmic part, for example a slam is fine with some sweep picking or guitar solo over it, but when the song is mostly rhythmic; like the Meshuggah songs I've heard, it just gets too boring.

See.... Deathcore gets alot of hate it doesn't deserve.

Why have I read breakdowns vs islams ? And why did it take me until the end of the video to figure out that it was slams and not islams ?

Huh

What

Eh?

deathcore sucks

What Dying Fetus song is this? If it was a lil' longer! 😠 F___!

He's cool but their last album sounds like kiddys slam shit.

4 dislikes from deathcore fans

A crappy deathcore band writing a song: "Alright, now we need to put a solo in this part" "But I can't play solos!" "Ok, just put a breakdown there then"

Dying Fetus is just a second wave Death Metal band. Slam isn’t a thing adding core to death is stupid. That’s just third wave death metal played really watered down by scenester kids. You add “core” to a band because they are a hardcore band from the hardcore scene that adds some elements of other genres like metal. For example All Out War is a hardcore band and they use some metal elements. As I Lay Dying not a metalcore band just a metal band who may have some similar bits here and there. Now that brings us to the adding core to death. It doesn’t make sense if you know where the term metalcore comes from and what it actually means. Suicide Silence not a hardcore band with death elements just a shitty second wave death metal band playing shitty death metal so drop the fucking word core out of it. So by default you drop the term Slam. A slam part is just a mosh part in a hardcore song by a hardcore band so call it slam call it mosh call it breakdown call it a dance part but for fucks sake stop using SLAM as a genre of sorts. God take a history lesson on DIY music starting in the mid 70’s and listen to some old stuff learn about the progressions and the scenes and genres and one maybe you’ll understand and stop making up shitty terms for stuff that doesn’t exsist and two maybe you’ll start making some better music because of your broadened knowledge. :DISCLAIMER: this comment is supposed to be a cut on the maker of this video but a lesson to the 14-28 year old scenesters who listened to bad shit and throw these terms around in their echo chambers in turn creating shitty bands. Go buy Bad Brains album or agnostic front, or Carcass, or Converge pre Jane for era, or Integrity, or Slapshot, or Burzum, or Darkthrone, or Earth Crisis, or Prayer for Cleansing!!!! Just go digging back for some cool shit!!! LYLAS