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TriCal | Measuring position repeatability of an industrial robot arm (This is not CGI) 

Oleksandr Stepanenko
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@legorockfan9
@legorockfan9 3 года назад
This music has an ominous "they are coming and there is nothing you can do about it" vibe.
@alexrichter1362
@alexrichter1362 3 года назад
no work no life
@agedmusic7133
@agedmusic7133 3 года назад
Agreed, some half life vibes also come up
@Archon816
@Archon816 3 года назад
They are coming and it is good
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
👍
@VideoGamer132-i4z
@VideoGamer132-i4z 3 года назад
The things i will watch in order to not do actual work
@kryvian
@kryvian 3 года назад
bruh, why you attack me like that
@TimUnknown-h5q
@TimUnknown-h5q 3 года назад
Lel video will go viral, pretty sure. Utube algo random puts it into everyone's suggestions
@devawratvidhate9093
@devawratvidhate9093 3 года назад
same bro
@jaysongalvez4340
@jaysongalvez4340 3 года назад
I'm in this comment and I don't like it.
@southern_merican
@southern_merican 3 года назад
Go back to work
@rickharriss
@rickharriss 3 года назад
When I worked in the CAD CAM industry our plotter had a repeatability error of no more than 3 microns over a movement of about 1/2 a meter. Using lead screws as well. Interesting video.
@adisharr
@adisharr 3 года назад
Probably using secondary feedback from a glass scale?
@slurricrasher9923
@slurricrasher9923 3 года назад
wut
@Chaos------
@Chaos------ 3 года назад
I can assure you these machines dont utilize leadscrews.
@peter.s.3207
@peter.s.3207 3 года назад
Waaaaaaay more degrees of freedom on this machine
@spamspasm8183
@spamspasm8183 3 года назад
You are comparing a cartesian robot with an articulated robot. Different levels of complexity considering just DoF alone. Apples and oranges.
@dogzer
@dogzer 3 года назад
1990: "This is real CGI, it's not animatronics" 2021: "This is NOT cgi, it's an actual robot"
@etle113
@etle113 3 года назад
Nice! Next step: repeatability under variable load... Just cause nobody use that kind of robot to move air around 😂
@Hallettjs7957
@Hallettjs7957 3 года назад
Or repeatability under load after 1 million moves.
@zeitgeist909
@zeitgeist909 3 года назад
I think you and the rest of the replied commenters misunderstand what they demo's here. They are demoing the triCal system, not the robot? That's the 3 micrometres in a jig thing with the changing numbers.
@Hallettjs7957
@Hallettjs7957 3 года назад
@@zeitgeist909 Your an engineer? Just guessing based off your statements. Your playing a glass half full/half empty game. You weather your demo'ing a "fixture" that checks calibration of true positioning, or demo'ing a robot that can place an object in true oreintation with repittion, it does not matter. You still need both and are reliant on eachother. You dont design a fixture for the purpose or not checking the reliability robot. I myself come from the feild of fixing things like this robot, or the ones that have to use gauges in real life applications on real world robotics.
@spamspasm8183
@spamspasm8183 3 года назад
@@Hallettjs7957 It's more of a RU-vid snippet than a demo. I would assume that they probably published a lengthy paper on this since it was designed and made at a university affiliated engineering lab.
@joshmdmd
@joshmdmd 3 года назад
He's not playing any game. He correctly identified a comment which is off topic and flagged it as such. They are not both reliant on each other, they are independent of one another. This is to test any industrial robot. Also as an engineer, repeatability under load after 1 million loads will only be due to the wear on components, not an additive error. These robots have direct feedback, so any wear in mechanical parts does not affect the output more than one step of each of the output motors, or more than the lead/lag of the output and how it is programmed.
@dtiydr
@dtiydr 3 года назад
The minute friction on the plates will heat them up making them show another value after small time due to the 0.001 resolution.
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
For this reason, we do a warm-up before taking measurements 😉 The robot, by the way, must also be warmed up.
@dtiydr
@dtiydr 3 года назад
@@OleksandrStepanenko Expected so, I seem to see a repeatability of around 0.006 -0.007 mm or so, not bad. Absolutely within 0.01 mm that is within the range of normal for these.
@ablasttv
@ablasttv 3 года назад
@@OleksandrStepanenko wait this is CGI right? The colors and reflections look too perfect to be real... (Edit: well im dumb i missed the full title lol)
@minimushrom
@minimushrom 3 года назад
@@ablasttv aka let's show the internet I can't read a full title
@EmergencyTemporalShift
@EmergencyTemporalShift 3 года назад
If you’re still watching comments, I recommend taking the measurements and using video editing to make them all clearly visible, large, and upright.
@StormBurnX
@StormBurnX 3 года назад
I think that would have been useful if they were demoing this robot's specs, but they are demoing the usefulness of the tool
@user-bn5xg6wu1p
@user-bn5xg6wu1p 3 года назад
fact that you need to clarify "this is not cgi". we live in a future
@h4u5er
@h4u5er Год назад
"This is some precise shit. It's so precise that bacteria living on it were like, "THIS IS SOME PRECISE SHIT." CS Ghost Animation
@BLACK-hl4ic
@BLACK-hl4ic 3 года назад
KUKA IS AMAZING
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
Agree
@suyogsangle2752
@suyogsangle2752 3 года назад
Germans have let this amazing thing go in Chinese hands
@Renevatia
@Renevatia 3 года назад
There seems to be a bit of a drift but that is still incredible precision. I imagine you could use a similar setup for a calibration feedback loop for prolonged operation even under load.
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus 3 года назад
Oh, there are plates on the micrometers. I was gonna say you'll have a tough time compensating for any offset.
@cptairwolf
@cptairwolf 3 года назад
Somewhere out there is a 5 year old asian kid who's doing the same with his fingers.
@nou4898
@nou4898 3 года назад
with the power of anime
@SavvygeMediaGroup
@SavvygeMediaGroup 3 года назад
lmfao
@Supreme_Lobster
@Supreme_Lobster 3 года назад
@@nou4898 and God on his side
@ArunUdai
@ArunUdai 4 года назад
Video is impressive. How does TriCal evaluation of Repeatability compare with ISO 9283 standard?
@colin7225
@colin7225 3 года назад
Whut whuuut?
@Supreme_Lobster
@Supreme_Lobster 3 года назад
asking the real questions
@ArunUdai
@ArunUdai 3 года назад
Yes, because measuring repeatability is not just reaching to a point from same direction all the time. Moreover, it needs to be loaded with its payload as well.
@ArunUdai
@ArunUdai 3 года назад
​@Armin Tamzarian It looks good in video. But practically any robot cannot be delivered as a product if its repeatability is identified and certified using this approach.
@FratDede
@FratDede 3 года назад
Good cgi :D Joking, well done.
@frohlmusic
@frohlmusic 4 года назад
KUKA может! Потрясающий канал и работа. Сначала думал что это все 3д визуализация.
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 4 года назад
Таки может :) Спасибо, очень приятно.
@MaksymCzech
@MaksymCzech 4 года назад
Тоже сначала подумал, что это рендеры, очень круто!
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 4 года назад
Максим Чех, Спасибо! :)
@jeysonrou8681
@jeysonrou8681 3 года назад
Как сказать, Кука не прям эталон, есть машины и более точные, но Кука обыгрывает своей подвижностью и интерфейсом.
@roshanbagul5606
@roshanbagul5606 2 года назад
Assume robot tool ball moved in only direction of Y axis dial gauge and abusively we can see deviation in Y direction dial gauge ,but due to spherical geometry of robot tool ball ,we will get deviation in direction of x and z dial gauges also .How you are consider/compensate it ?
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 2 года назад
Indicators have flat tips. As long as the sphere touches a flat surface at all three tips, we can measure its position in Cartesian space.
@DivyanshMMMUT
@DivyanshMMMUT 3 года назад
Are a cinematographer at the same time ? You have KUKA!!!
@DivyanshMMMUT
@DivyanshMMMUT 3 года назад
I really wanna know what do you do professionally , ok I am sorry I didn't even notice I am commenting on every video at the same time but I just found out know about all this stuff but please answer a last question what do you do professional ?
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
Different things, mostly industrial robotics and mechanical design. If you have LinkedIn, we can connect: www.linkedin.com/in/olekstepanenko/
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
Videography for me is just the way to present my project nicely, but I'm not really in this field.
@yaalex25
@yaalex25 3 года назад
Не может быть...... Вот это точность kuka могет
@minerharry
@minerharry 3 года назад
Salutations from the algorithm!
@needs_more_dakka5774
@needs_more_dakka5774 3 года назад
ALL HAIL THE ALGORITHM.
@philippdeus92
@philippdeus92 3 года назад
Do you also build complete functionable robots for commercial purpose or is this just in phase of developement?
@davidut55
@davidut55 3 года назад
If its so good and the ball is perfectly round, why not move the arm while gauges read 0? That would be a true test!
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-igo5p5ktp0k.html
@khkpck
@khkpck 3 года назад
is it 0.001mm or 0.001 inch?
@clodman84
@clodman84 3 года назад
mm, This is Hardcore
@khkpck
@khkpck 3 года назад
@@clodman84 ? it is a magnitude of 25.4
@CasualInventor
@CasualInventor 3 года назад
First one, then the other. :)
@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars
@APioneerInTheSeaOfStars 3 года назад
That's cool, so that arm has a repeatable accuracy range of 0.003mm or 3 microns (3 measurements were .008, .006, .009) on that top micrometer sensor. I wonder how complex the algorithm is to keep that 3 micron range, I bet there's a lot of variables they had to account for. Must have been difficult.
@chicoxiba
@chicoxiba 3 года назад
Up to 0.1 of a mm is good. If there is a bit of force in the works these robot arms get the 'shakes.. very quickly you have 0.2mm repeatability.. For many applications still a well designed simple cartesian machine is better.
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 3 года назад
Wow .2mm isn't very good. Even my diy cnc is precise to .1mm (although accuracy might not be).
@chicoxiba
@chicoxiba 3 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester The overhand is huge on arms. Imagine it has a payload of 20 Kgs... or 60+Kgs.. Even the big arms get the shakes; The trajectory planner on the high end tries to ease that but there are limitations.
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 3 года назад
@@chicoxiba It's amazing it can compensate for sure!
@chicoxiba
@chicoxiba 3 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester lol.. *overhang
@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218
@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218 3 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester Does your DIY cnc have six axis?
@tejasshah197
@tejasshah197 2 года назад
Try marlin software if you are working with same stepper motors like the way 3d printer or robotic arms works.
@botabbueu51
@botabbueu51 3 года назад
If Fanuc and ABB is as accurate I can no longer blame them for not doing as I'm telling them....
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
They are all repeatable, but not accurate ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XSKfr5smV9Q.html
@evolevil1
@evolevil1 3 года назад
Ммм, люблю технопорно)
@personamems
@personamems 3 года назад
автор издевается) круто очень!
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko 3 года назад
Спасибо 😀
@notyou1877
@notyou1877 3 года назад
WOO-PEE-DEE-DOO! we do this every day in the shop, except with more precission.
@notyou1877
@notyou1877 3 года назад
@@combatcorgiofficial Riiiiiiiight! IF you only knew. I can tell you one thing, though. If that is a standard axis resolution kuka robot, I'm guessing here, then one rotation of the resolver on any of its axis has a cool 1 million counts. Our machines have 4 million per revolution. The next generation equipment coming in here will have 12 million count per rev. So... Yea, KUKA ain't shit... I've watched them make over a milion car bodies back when I worked in a car mill and they do a fine work spot welding. They don't compare to any decent CNC machine, although the germans will make that claim "it's perfect and has great repeatability".
@notyou1877
@notyou1877 3 года назад
@@combatcorgiofficial honestly, I don't believe you. On the other hand, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, so...
@notyou1877
@notyou1877 3 года назад
@@combatcorgiofficial how many languages do you speak?
@frankmyers4736
@frankmyers4736 3 года назад
I don't know if I should believe the title
@ThePrimeTech
@ThePrimeTech 3 года назад
This is not CGI ! This is cycles render 🤣
@notserpmale03
@notserpmale03 3 года назад
okay now move it while it's in the ceansor
@rdyer8764
@rdyer8764 3 года назад
Not CGI? Where's the banana? :))
@U.S.A.
@U.S.A. 3 года назад
In Hungarian Kuka means dustbin.
@GustavoCs0
@GustavoCs0 3 года назад
first look: CGI, of course! second look: WHY THIS STILL LOOKING CGI? Reverse uncanny valley?
@Ulexcool
@Ulexcool 3 года назад
I know nothing about industrial robots, this wasn´t impressive at all, can someone explain?
@testsubject318no6
@testsubject318no6 3 года назад
the frick you do when it's off
@CarlosMartinez-ej4qw
@CarlosMartinez-ej4qw 3 года назад
Que es esto?
@emileedhouse8367
@emileedhouse8367 3 года назад
ah! your weakness is rough textures when its all smooth textures it looks so realistically fake but with with rough textures it just would look like any tech demo (i might be dumb cos i see the world differently and understand things less than most people do)
@EvoPortal
@EvoPortal 3 года назад
Is this supposed to be impressive or something? It's not. It's just a few gauges and a standard old robot arm
@pcmasterwraith7676
@pcmasterwraith7676 Год назад
if it was cgi it would be more accurate, you guys can do better
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko Год назад
Certainly! Working on it.
@pcmasterwraith7676
@pcmasterwraith7676 Год назад
@@OleksandrStepanenko i want to see that be able to hit under .00001 in .25 the time, then you will have it.
@OleksandrStepanenko
@OleksandrStepanenko Год назад
@@pcmasterwraith7676 In what units?
@pcmasterwraith7676
@pcmasterwraith7676 Год назад
@@OleksandrStepanenko every unit
@raducristiandumitrescu1806
@raducristiandumitrescu1806 3 года назад
KUKA is dead, Chinese brought them all.
@mertonur6774
@mertonur6774 3 года назад
.
@genepozniak
@genepozniak 3 года назад
Hey, geniuses, the video is too dark!
@dford344
@dford344 3 года назад
The lighting sucks a big one.
@AriKesti
@AriKesti 3 года назад
Please measure the absolute accuracy! Repeatability is easy.. reposition the tcp and go back to same position.
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