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Trick for Determining EDG or EWG 

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A trick for figuring out if a group is electron-donating or electron-withdrawing (except for halogens), and the chemical basis behind the trick. Discussion of how EDGs and EWGs affect electrophilic aromatic substitution.

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@vedaantverma2649
@vedaantverma2649 6 лет назад
Your trick doesn't work for N=O
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
You're correct, it wouldn't! But, I don't think a nitrosobenzene can actually participate in EAS. Nitrosobenzene is very reactive at the N=O group-it can undergo nucleophilic addition similar to a carbonyl AND the nitrogen lone pair can act as a nucleophile. However, there are (to my best knowledge, thanks for encouraging me to have a fun little literature search today) no reported EAS reactions of nitrosobenzenes. I'm thinking that the Lewis acidic conditions for EAS are not compatible with this group. The N=O group readily dimerizes, and I think a Lewis acid might promote that reaction well before EAS could occur (pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00827a021). I did find that someone asked this question in a problem that wound up on the internet (someone answered it on Chegg) but I'm not sure we need to worry too much about this group for EAS. Thanks so much for posting! I really enjoyed thinking about this one :)
@vedaantverma2649
@vedaantverma2649 6 лет назад
Molecular Memory sorry but it does participate in EAS! I have examples....thanks for replying!
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
Oh man-I must have missed it! I was only using Google Scholar because it was Sunday and I don't have SciFinder access off campus. Please post a reference for me! I have to see these conditions. :) Thank you!
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
Crazy this did not come up in any of my searches yesterday (I was using keyword nitrosobenzene, and this didn't get anything until I dropped the "benzene")! I just found a synthesis of a para-subs nitrosobenzene in "Science of Synthesis." Doesn't seem like an efficient reaction-have you done this in the lab? Thanks for teaching me something!! :)
@vedaantverma2649
@vedaantverma2649 6 лет назад
Molecular Memory no I haven't done it in lab but I referred many books for this...!!! Your video really helped thanks alot and I can't teach I'm only 16 😛....just kidding!!
@badercriss
@badercriss 6 лет назад
You literally saved my Pharmacy undergraduate studies. Thank you so much. Now medicinal chemistry is x10 easier.
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
Great to hear! Thank you for watching.
@yepyep2558
@yepyep2558 3 года назад
exactly the same here
@kushpatel3861
@kushpatel3861 2 года назад
DUDE SAME!! What a coincidence that this helped me for my MED CHEM class in my PharmD hahah :)
@bhavyachoudhary2321
@bhavyachoudhary2321 2 года назад
@@kushpatel3861 hi are you doing your PharmD from Indi
@kushpatel3861
@kushpatel3861 2 года назад
@@bhavyachoudhary2321 Nope, in Canada at the University of Alberta
@simonsays5094
@simonsays5094 2 года назад
This is awesome! my lazy orgo professor keeps teaching half the material we need to actually understand stuff and then starts randomly talking about things she never bothered to explain. EWG and EDG are one of those examples and today she just started throwing those phrases into lecture out of nowhere.
@rickyl7442
@rickyl7442 4 месяца назад
This may be one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. I can explain how much difficultly I’ve had trying to work with this
@cjcjesse
@cjcjesse 6 лет назад
how can i express my love for you. this was 10x more useful than anything my university lecturer was capable of explaining
@chrisjohnson1196
@chrisjohnson1196 5 лет назад
Thank you so much, this makes recognizing different reaction patterns so much easier
@kenmagee8690
@kenmagee8690 6 лет назад
I have never made a comment on a video before, although I have given thumbs up or down. EAS was kicking my butt and I was so frustrated not being able to figure it out. Thank you so much for this video........
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
Thanks for leaving me a note! I'm happy to hear my explanation helped you.
@fatts96
@fatts96 10 месяцев назад
the way you made this entire topic easy, im so grateful thank you
@praveenkhare5112
@praveenkhare5112 4 года назад
No one had taught me so well until now Thank you so much
@AbhinavSingh-qk4so
@AbhinavSingh-qk4so 5 лет назад
There's no words in my heart to expression your help to me with mine confusion clarification. Just I can write THANKS
@rd7963
@rd7963 4 года назад
It was amazing ....I was very confused and now it's all clear... thanks mam ♥️
@Giridhar_R
@Giridhar_R 5 лет назад
THANK YOU for making this video. This trick really helped me. I REQUEST you to make more videos with tricks if you are wished to , but i really got benefited by this video.
@MrKaravaj
@MrKaravaj 3 года назад
This is the best explanation I´ve ever heard! Thank you
@myprettygirl91
@myprettygirl91 6 лет назад
i like how slowly you go. Super helpful!
@sydneypenrose9573
@sydneypenrose9573 3 года назад
This is such a great way to explain EDGs/EWGs. Thank you!!
@bristol1946
@bristol1946 Год назад
This is a thing of beauty *chefs kiss* Thank you for your time making these videos!
@madelainerose5558
@madelainerose5558 2 года назад
Omg I freaking love you. Thank you so much for this video. I think I am only going to watch English content from now on for studying because these videos are so much more helpful than the German videos that are on RU-vid 😂
@zero-one3599
@zero-one3599 Год назад
If I could know you early... Your explanation is much simpler than any doctor... God bless u... thank u so much🥰🥰🥰
@narsasak
@narsasak 2 года назад
This makes my Organic Chem II midterm study SO much easier thank you QQ
@lamiahsalim2233
@lamiahsalim2233 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!!! This video literally saved me from memorizing these groups using acronyms....😜
@userr_aa
@userr_aa 3 года назад
masha-Allah how can this amazing teacher explains this just within 8.09 minutes? omg you're so blessed..thanks a lot!! your video is very helpful. I wish you have a great day! I was like 'thank God, I met her'
@Brilliance53
@Brilliance53 2 года назад
Wow you are a good girl 😜🙂
@asutoshmishra8380
@asutoshmishra8380 6 лет назад
extremely helpful, cleared up this basic concept thank you
@sahildhindsa8763
@sahildhindsa8763 Год назад
EXCELLENT explanation. God bless you.
@kukatlanandithayadav90
@kukatlanandithayadav90 6 лет назад
Thank you soooooo much.. M preparing for medicine entrance it helped me very much to understand the other topics ..love you!! 💓
@gauravsuyal4456
@gauravsuyal4456 5 лет назад
Love from india...
@Aox2baseline
@Aox2baseline 4 года назад
This was very clear and helpful, thank you
@officehubk8882
@officehubk8882 4 года назад
Thank you very much mam before seeing your video i was. Nothing in chemistry but now i have mastered
@booyah211
@booyah211 Год назад
Thank you so much for this explanation! It finally cleared out my doubts about this topic :D
@marlonrezash4752
@marlonrezash4752 5 лет назад
Wow that was a great lesson! And in only 8 minutes!
@kiranpandey6231
@kiranpandey6231 4 года назад
Thank u very much mam really you cleared my biggest doubt.....😊your videos are really helpful....lots of love from India
@iTechProductionsmh1
@iTechProductionsmh1 3 года назад
THANKKK YOUU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART 🥺❤❤
@hannahschannnel9636
@hannahschannnel9636 6 лет назад
Thank you!!! This made so much sense
@NgocMyNguyenThi-bk9it
@NgocMyNguyenThi-bk9it 3 месяца назад
extremely helpful, thank you, ma'dam
@zamanmakan2729
@zamanmakan2729 3 года назад
Couldn't find a better explanation :), thank you! But briefly, how do you explain the difference between induction and resonance?
@axlblazeauthor
@axlblazeauthor 6 лет назад
the video is seriously a great help
@ryngkatdohtdong1408
@ryngkatdohtdong1408 5 лет назад
Please make a video about +R and -R effect
@HJ-wm8qi
@HJ-wm8qi 3 года назад
Thank you so much.. I really have a tough time to memorise those EWG EDG and ortho meta position since I don't understand the concepts...Tqvm
@alexlu6920
@alexlu6920 5 лет назад
Thank you for explaining the concept so clearly. However, can I ask about just a halogen bonded to the benzene? It’s electron donating (so ortho para directing) but yet it weakly deactivates the ring.
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 5 лет назад
At the end of the video, it links to a follow up video, which has just the information you're looking for. Thanks for watching!
@anushkasaxena5257
@anushkasaxena5257 4 года назад
Thank You So Much..this really helped me!..keep it up!
@devarajuppuluri501
@devarajuppuluri501 3 года назад
U clarify my unique problem
@miaricciardi-kling9582
@miaricciardi-kling9582 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for this video you explain the topic so well.
@user-qo6fp8ej2i
@user-qo6fp8ej2i 6 лет назад
This is soooooo useful..... Thank u so much!
@shanemichael9011
@shanemichael9011 5 лет назад
Been studying orgo chem on spare time (odd as that may sound) for the past couple of years. This video was very helpful providing an easy way to remember the EDG and EWG on Benzene rings. And in this subject, memory recall is very important. Thanks !
@Daxdikooo
@Daxdikooo 5 лет назад
Thank you so much, you made my day.
@archanamujumdar1676
@archanamujumdar1676 4 года назад
Thanks a lot for this wonderful explanation.😃
@abhilashsahu9240
@abhilashsahu9240 4 года назад
Excellent explanation . Thank you ma'am 👍🏼👍🏼
@nourseenajamy7
@nourseenajamy7 3 года назад
Extremely AMAZING..
@zaheenanwar7947
@zaheenanwar7947 5 лет назад
Best explanation
@rohitpyngottu6066
@rohitpyngottu6066 5 лет назад
Nice. well done
@monaabdelkareem5709
@monaabdelkareem5709 4 года назад
thank you very much your explanation is amazing
@kalkidanberhanu7708
@kalkidanberhanu7708 3 года назад
Wow this is so clear thanks!
@vamsikrish2
@vamsikrish2 4 года назад
Please try to make a video based on ELECTRON MIGRATION effects..
@tasneemmousa4810
@tasneemmousa4810 5 лет назад
Thank you! Perfect video
@karunyareddy1458
@karunyareddy1458 3 года назад
Wow absolutely helpful 👍.
@jayeshsonawane1890
@jayeshsonawane1890 Год назад
It's really helped a lot to me thans ❤️
@idonthavethink1825
@idonthavethink1825 Год назад
Love you for this
@garima__sri
@garima__sri 3 года назад
Thankyou so much🙏❤️
@rangakumarithota5408
@rangakumarithota5408 4 года назад
Nice explanation 👌👍 thank u 💐😄
@atenalbert7576
@atenalbert7576 6 лет назад
Thank you so much !
@jeeaspirants2161
@jeeaspirants2161 3 года назад
Mam your voice i like it👍 And also you teaches best ❤️
@vedant8002
@vedant8002 3 года назад
You English best
@rajsanap842
@rajsanap842 3 года назад
Thank you💗
@atmadeepsen4854
@atmadeepsen4854 3 года назад
Thank you Molecular memory 🙏
@vasumongam4936
@vasumongam4936 4 года назад
Extremely helpful mam thank u
@vashishtcreations3244
@vashishtcreations3244 6 лет назад
please made video on inductive or mesomeric effect
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
This is a great idea! I'm looking for ideas of what to do next and I appreciate your comment.
@vashishtcreations3244
@vashishtcreations3244 6 лет назад
Molecular Memory ..... thanks dear 😊😊
@BiswajitMondal-ne1cq
@BiswajitMondal-ne1cq 4 года назад
first you said that EWG is meta director but in your example (A) that was EWG but you show that is also para director if i say any wrong then please explain me that portion
@kyunki3796
@kyunki3796 3 года назад
nice one
@humezafirdaus8211
@humezafirdaus8211 5 лет назад
Superb!!!!! 👌👌👌
@bhadragiri5802
@bhadragiri5802 6 лет назад
U cleared all my doubts....😘😘😘
@lavishkumar3595
@lavishkumar3595 3 года назад
If Y is more electronegative then Z it is electronwithdrawing group and if Z is more electronegative than Y then it is electrondonating group i think this is the right one
@777osbaldo1
@777osbaldo1 3 года назад
Nice!
@mousam8719
@mousam8719 6 лет назад
Thanks. ...that was useful. ...😊
@indian4616
@indian4616 5 лет назад
Thank u a lot.. it helped me!
@ilyassalmon9513
@ilyassalmon9513 4 года назад
thank you
@dhruba6044
@dhruba6044 2 года назад
Thanks
@savage-xx8hh
@savage-xx8hh 3 года назад
It clear ,all my doubt love u from my heart❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😓
@ritubisht2048
@ritubisht2048 3 года назад
Tnq so much it helpd
@zehragulsever8566
@zehragulsever8566 Год назад
Why EWG is ortho-para directing? did we say not EDG are ortho-para directing? EWG should be meta directing.. ı am confused
@slendrmusic
@slendrmusic 2 года назад
Thanks!
@panguluri100
@panguluri100 6 лет назад
very nice video
@gbpunjabi5301
@gbpunjabi5301 3 года назад
It's perfect
@avinashsharma5741
@avinashsharma5741 5 лет назад
Maximun edg in following 1 -coNH2 2 -NHCH2COCH3 3 -NHCOCH3
@juneddadel9369
@juneddadel9369 5 лет назад
thank u miss
@iamDBK
@iamDBK 5 лет назад
u saved me.....thank u so much
@abhinavm9685
@abhinavm9685 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot 😃😃😃
@winnielygamer
@winnielygamer 6 лет назад
Where is the follow-up video about the strengths of EWG and EDGs? :o
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 6 лет назад
I still need to make this one! Thanks for watching!
@nomadgamercao1177
@nomadgamercao1177 5 лет назад
Ma'am methoxy is given as EWG in my textbook.....is there something wrong in my text??
@mbibi
@mbibi 6 лет назад
Awesome thank
@jatindervirsingh4850
@jatindervirsingh4850 Год назад
nice
@devadharshini9069
@devadharshini9069 4 года назад
What about HC=O ? EN of C is less than O but more than H
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 4 года назад
The oxygen wins here, and aldehydes are EWG. Hydrogen is less electronegative than carbon, but just slightly. Hydrocarbons are considered to be nonpolar, since the electronegativity difference between C and H is not very much. Thanks for a great question!
@Devraj-ny5bc
@Devraj-ny5bc 2 года назад
what happen if y is -ve ly charged ?
@akhilareddy9648
@akhilareddy9648 3 года назад
Tqqqqq soooo muchhhhhhh😘😘😘😘
@Qwerty-qm4yt
@Qwerty-qm4yt 6 лет назад
Can u tell me the expansion of octet??
@SarthakKumar
@SarthakKumar 5 лет назад
Will it work only when we do Electrophilic aromatic substitution?
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 5 лет назад
The directing effects are for EAS. However, this analysis will work to tell you if any group is electron donating or electron withdrawing. Thanks for watching and leaving me a question!
@snehad9224
@snehad9224 4 года назад
Mam wt abt OAc group and Och3 group
@Diana-xm8ib
@Diana-xm8ib 6 лет назад
excellet!
@nish9421
@nish9421 10 месяцев назад
Wow.
@userr_aa
@userr_aa 3 года назад
thanks again, now i can sleep
@namjoonpark5309
@namjoonpark5309 4 года назад
Finally!
@raht9578
@raht9578 5 лет назад
Wow
@devadharshini9069
@devadharshini9069 4 года назад
What about CMe3
@MolecularMemory
@MolecularMemory 4 года назад
That's in the follow up video!
@yashgaming4127
@yashgaming4127 Год назад
Nitrogen is not more electron negative than Oxygen
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