@@heatherstarling1653 oh I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all. It's brilliant. And noticing such a tone shift was interesting to see. It's why I come back to this moment often.
Trigun begun as a kid-friendly Cowboy Bebop. After this episode, was at the same mind-fuck level of Serial Expriments Lain and Evangelion. Trully, a hard twist that made the show a legend.
Watch the series in 5.1 with a proper surround sound setup, too. The way telepathic voices bounce from speaker to speaker at random is some really outside-the-box sound design as well.
The bag that Legato left behind is originally the chopped off head of the shoe shop owner that Vash meets in the beginning of this episode. Signifying that Gun-Ho Guns were gonna kill any human being who got closer to Vash and torture his mental state. However, the scene was classified too violent for viewers. It was vaguely left on the details what the bag actually contained.
Wanna know what's more messed up? In the manga, supposedly Legato used his powers to force people to go into meat processing plants, and then you remember what hotdogs are made of....and this scene just got a whole lot darker.
Although that's probably true in the manga, in the anime it's heavily implied that the bag contains the man's tongue since the wife says her husband will not talk to her no matter what she says. She doesn't say anything about him missing a head.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 In other words... that wasn’t a beef hotdog that he fed that little girl... 😧 or any other animal meat for that matter but it certainly was MEAT nonetheless. That hints to the audience that he’s also a cannibal considering that he ate one of the hotdogs himself before offering the other one to that child. The way he ate his so nonchalantly strongly implies that definitely this isn’t the first time that he’s had a taste for human flesh. In fact Vash’s horrified facial reaction as the little girl eats her hotdog strongly implies to the audience that Vash is well aware that Legato is making this child unwittingly engage in cannibalism with him and considering that that Vash has a soft spot for children it becomes abundantly clear Legato deliberately did it as a petty passive aggressive way to harm Vash emotionally and psychologically. But WOW... JUST WOW... I almost can’t believe it... almost because it’s just too horrifying to contemplate. Are you really telling me that he basically fed her human flesh just for his own twisted amusement as his idea of a cruel sick joke to take pleasure in tainting innocence especially knowing full well that Vash would be forced to watch him do it? This man... this monster is truly sick in the head to not only deliberately go out of his way to make a hotdog out of ground up human meat and eat it is casually as if he were going to the movies and then to not only feed one to to someone else but TO A CHILD NO LESS is the kind of Satanic horror that would be welcomed by Lucifer’s own. It is upon realizing the nightmarish implications of this subtly horrific scene entire that the audience slowly begins to realize that Legato is no man, he’s something FAR BEYOND what we’d define as “human” or rather giving what we just saw, it would be more appropriate say FAR LESS THAN, no man at all, for a well-adjusted human being does not do or even contemplate something like that, HE IS A DEMON, a child of The Devil and given who his boss symbolically and thematically represents in the show, perhaps that analogy is not too far off the mark. It perfectly reminds me of the exact way The Sheriff describes the ruthlessly disturbed Texas hitman Anton Chigurh in Cormac McCarthy’s modern day neo-western novel No Country For Old Men. He describes people like him as some “new kind” of human, one far more bloodthirsty and sociopathic. The Sheriff goes on to say while narrating the novel a monologue that not only describes people like Anton but could also be used to perfectly describe people like Legato as well. “What do you say to a man that by his own admission has no soul? Why would you say anything? I’ve thought about it a good deal. But that wasn't nothin' compared to what was comin' down the pike. They say the eyes are the windows to the soul. 0:14 I don't know what them eyes was the windows to and I guess I'd as just as soon as rather not know. But... there is... another... view of the world out there and there are... other... eyes to see it and that's where my story is goin'. It has done brought me to a place in my life I would not of ever thought possible to come to. Somewhere... out there... is a true and living prophet of destruction and I don't ever want to confront him again. I know he's real... I have seen his work... I walked in front of those eyes... just once... and I wont ever do it again. I wont ever again push my chips forward and stand up and go out there to meet him. It ain't just cuz I’m getting old. I really wish it was. I can’t say that it's even what you are willin' to do in such a situation because I always knew that you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. That was always true. Not to sound glorious about it or nothin' but you do. If you ain't... they'll know it and they'll see it in a heartbeat. I think it is more like what you are willin' to... become... and I think a man would have to put his soul at hazard. And I wont do that... not again... not ever again... and I think that now... certainly I never would.” That right there sums up “people” like Legato and Anton ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY.
@@BlackangelKatakuri It really helps set up the change of tone in the series. What really sells it is Vash's reaction to his presence. With other villains, he's all smiles and chuckles and "hey, can't we all just have some donuts and get along?" Then this guy walks in, and suddenly Vash is on edge. The immediate statement that all the usual tricks and jokes are no longer on the table was a fantastic raising of the stakes.
1:38 This scene was so frightening when I was younger, because it was the first one when you can see Vash being psychologically one-uped by someone else. Every time prior to this scene, Vash's response to the actions of bad guys was seemingly acting goofy but neutralizing the threat seriously nonetheless. Here, when Legato makes the illusion of killing the girl he's legit shocked that he got played
Honestly that's what makes Legato's powers extremely frightening. He likely controlled the little girl's mind in some way to pass off him messing with her head like that. Either by wiping her memory or shuffling her along physically, we don't know, but he can masterfully manipulate everyone and anyone to his hearts content. He likely made that girl come over to him from the start, staged the whole thing from top to bottom. Legato truly grew to be one of the most sadistic villains ever to me. Both him and the Gun Ho guns truly disgust me. As well as Knives himself especially.
i just realized he not only took a bite out of a hot dog that was right next to a severed head, but he also let a little kid take a bite out of it, too.
I'm still under an influence of this moment. I never seen such a rapid emotional turn of the series in any media. After this scene, the tone of narrative in the anime is changed to a lot darker turn. And i love it
Its mainly because the anime changed things so much from the manga. Legato lost scenes that gave him more variety of emotion (thus making him in the anime come off more intimidating compared to his manga self), Knives lost his entire 1st introduction and the actions within were given to Legato, and finally, Knives's non-flashback introduction was pushed so far back that he had no time to really do anything with the character. It made Legato cooler on his own, but that just lead to mild disappointment when ultimately, he's still just Knives's loyal lackey.
@@Blad3sofWaR He is definitely not a "cartoon villain"(trope name or something like that). He is evil(I know about his past in manga, but in anime it is not mentioned) in such a creepy way and truly dangerous mind.
This scene made my heart pound when I watched it 10 years ago and it’s still effective now. The voice acting, the direction and that SOUNDTRACK! I dare say this might be the best villain introduction of any anime I’ve seen and that’s a fuckin long list.
I always knew Legato was a different kind of villain, ever since i first saw his entrance into the show. You could tell he was definitely stronger and far more capable than any other foe Vash had faced up until this point. His Introduction was very effective, it got you a pretty good idea of what Vash was in for without giving too much away and for that it was awesome! But then you find out things later.....things that make this character and this entrance even creepier. You find out later in the show that Legato can control minds without fail, and likely manipulated this little girl the entire time to stage a frightening situation towards Vash. She probably never knew anything that happened. Then you realize the object in his bag he left for Vash was the head of the Shoe Maker he had visited earlier in the episode. After realizing that, you remember that Legato pulled hot dogs out of the same bag and not only ate one without so much as a wince, but gave one to the little girl as well. Then you hear about.....OTHER things from people who read the Manga. How Legato manipulated people into walking into meat processing plants, the very places where the hot dogs come from......and im sure you can put two and two together after that. Legato isn't just a different and more intimidating villain in the show, he's likely the most evil person in all of Trigun next to Knives himself. In fact, he could be one of THE most cruel and sadistic villains in all of anime
It's interesting how only Milly notices something's off with Vash. They don't get a lot of one-on-one interactions, but I get the impression these two characters really understand each other.
Sometimes, you wonder if you'll ever see an example of true evil in anime. Then you meet Legato Bluesummers and you know that there is such a thing as pure evil.
Legato was dangerous, but not moreso than knives. Knives is the reason humanity is stranded on Gunsmoke, and is capable of raw destruction on a scale that Legato simply isn't, being a Plant and wielding the same weapon that destroyed July and Augusta.
Knives is a god to legato. Legato is merely the reaper he's raised and reared from a 16 year old ex sex-slave. Trigun Maximum even gives knives a credible reason as to why he wants to exterminate humanity, where in the anime it's incredibly lame.
@@RainbowWaffles of course knives more powerful but Legato force ppl make choice based on environment. Legato was even more ruthless than Knives . He made vash break his word
Legato is the darkest villain in my opinion. Darker than Knives, and even darker than Vicious from Cowboy Bebop. Damn, why am I attracted to him? Don’t judge, I’m still in quarantine. 🤣😂🤣
You're not wrong, Knives is essentially just a racist with a God complex while Legato is by all accounts pure evil. Vicious would probably piss himself if he met Legato
Honestly as a kid I thought the bag contained somebody's tongue or larynx cuz not long after this scene some woman was crying about her husband suddenly stop talking
I can't remember which release did it, but I think the original had Legato's telepathy jump from channel to channel erratically, giving off a really disorienting effect like his voice was bouncing around in your head. I wish I could find a version that has that effect intact
I almost kinda like we get zero backstory with this legato. Trimax makes him absolutely tragic and its terrible what happened to him, that being said, i would still squish him like a bug under my boot.
I agree with this SO MUCH. I do like the touch of him killing the slave traffickers considering his past in the anime. But i was VERY shocked when i read what happened to him it made me lowkey sick. I still want to punch his lights out tho!
I remember as a kid as soon as legato popped up i knew shit was bouta get real in the show Edit: what do u want from me?…….. Your life….. bruh haha shit was next level back in 2003ish
Welp now that stampedes done with, can share me thoughts : I…do not like prequel stuff, never have never will because it feels like a step backward, and I really didn’t need to see how July was destroyed again . Didn’t care for the smoker lung side character, missed milly the entire show only to have her name dropped at the end. Overall forgettable besides a few characters
@@OfLanceTheLonginussupposedly there’s a part two coming out to answer more like it should. Not to mention we still haven’t seen the Tri-Punisher of Death
The original airing of this episode had a slightly different line from legato while the girl is eating the hotdog. It was....inappropriate to say the least. Curious if anyone else remembers that as well...
@@aly3a869 "I didn't think she'd be so good" This was only aired on the first showing of trigun on AdultSwim. The subsequent airings and the DVD's all changed the dubbed line to what you see here, something way more pg13. If 2 other people hadnt been in the room watching this with me and remember it exactly the same way I do I'd begin to think this was some Mandela effect.