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Triton - Gravis UltraSound & Crystal Dream 2 (On Hardware)

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Gravis UltraSound and Crystal Dream II demos by Triton. Everybody else seems to have used DOSBox, resulting in lower sound quality and rendering glitches... So I have recorded these on proper hardware, A real Gravis UltraSound, a real Pentium MMX and a real S3 VESA card. Enjoy these demos, Feel free to request other demos, if I can find them I might just record them and put them on the internet - I can now record from almost any IBM Compatible PC.

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28 авг 2010

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@ndrinks5550 8 лет назад

I loved the Gravis Ultrasound and watched Crystal Dream 2 countless times using it, was quite an upgrade from my Sound Blaster 2 which if I recall correctly was only capable of mono sound output. I also remember being amazed at how midi files sounded compared to the old card.

@HighTreason610 8 лет назад

Yep, the SB 2.0 is mono only, I use one of those in a low profile 486. The SB Pro was the stereo card until the SB16 came along. The GUS has since moved to a different machine, one which isn't completely operational yet.

@one-bell 10 лет назад

After almost a quarter century this one still holds up... the music... the bombast... the bar it set for all prods after it. And a great cap to boot.

@TheCat86 10 лет назад

What a nice 90s club music

@Sakari_369 11 лет назад

One of the real classics of the MS-DOS demoscene for me. Rocks both in design and execution. Love the sharp and smooth sound of the original GUS. This was bundled with the Gus Max CD, will always remember this. Nothing quite beat the GUS in it's clarity and tone of sound.

@werre2 Год назад

GUS was incredible for the price. Installed it alongside a SB on day one no regrets.

@njsynthesis 3 года назад

8:00 is the most 90s render I have ever seen.

@ashchaya7676 4 года назад

I had a GUSMax sound card with 1MB onboard RAM. Not 512KB, 1MB! I was king in 1995.

@Xonatron 4 года назад

Always loved Vogue and LizardKing's tracks...

@HighTreason610 11 лет назад

The color bar was made by the box (Konig VGA-Scart) which converted VGA into S-Video for capturing, it was meant to appear whenever there was no signal from the computer but most of the time it didn't - this was rather irksome as it would have been useful for setting the capture card up but I recently switched to using a DVI setup instead so it doesn't matter anymore and there are programs (like PCCheck) that I use for color bars if I need them.

@Wulfcry 6 лет назад

Those gated effects just pure gold.

@PrzeszczepiX 7 лет назад

these pc demos are full of musics made with Amiga ST-00 samples, true oldskool ;)

@HighTreason610 12 лет назад

For the most part it's a PCM Card, it has what one would consider a wavetable synthesizer for which custom patches can be loaded, due to the nature of it's inner workings it means that all the work is done by the card as opposed to the CPU (SoundBlasters rely on the CPU) and it is very useful for playing Module files which is what these and most other demos used at that time.

@HighTreason610 13 лет назад

@HaloSpartanG13 This system does beep, but as I said, it can only use the internal buzzer to do so, the only way to record the beep from this system would be to use a microphone, this would sound bad and wasn't important enough to do as it isn't part of the demo - which is the point of the video. Another system I use for similar recordings uses an AWE 64 and has a cable I made allowing the beeps to output via the Line-Out.

@UltimatePerfection 9 лет назад

Wow, some of these are really impressive (magic cube, vector slime), especially that those were made for a system where not only shaders were unavailable, but everything had to be rendered on the CPU.

@misikgames3103 Год назад

Oh yeah!!

@HighTreason610 13 лет назад

@1337Shockwav3 Before this I had used Composite Out, but those newer graphics cards caused rendering problems with these demos (apparent in other recordings on here). I use a Konig VGA to RGB/Scart converter that cost around £50 on eBay - it works out cheaper than finding cards with TV-Out for each machine. I then hook it up to a TV-Capture card in my main workstation to record it. Stereo Covox eh? That could be interesting.

@haireepothead5001 11 лет назад

It was similar to the Sony SPC700 card in the SNES but bigger RAM, more channels and no ADPCM.

@Xonatron 4 года назад

I also recall Triton being upset with Gravis for releasing that demo (the UltraSound demo, not Crystal Dream 2) before it was finished, claiming it hurt both of their reputations.

@killimolli 11 лет назад

NO CPU use when playing with GUS :D

@HighTreason610 12 лет назад

The rather large original model, often reffered to as "Gravis Ultrasound Classic"

@benanderson89 12 лет назад

I've never used an Ultrasound. Was it a PCM card with a wavetable synthesizer, a PCM card capable of custom samples or a hybrid? I have a soundfont of all the GM sounds in the Ultrasound and I'm more than impressed with it.

@HighTreason610 13 лет назад

@HaloSpartanG13 What do you mean I forgot it? The system uses the internal buzzer to beep, the Gravis UltraSound does not have a connector for this and nor does the motherboard have one - being an old OEM system the buzzer is soldered to the board. It actually irritates me, because if I want to record something that uses the buzzer, I have to use another computer.

@profitonline4583 5 лет назад

Hi, do you still have a demo CD (GUS MAX) with mod tracks, in particular - Movie it?

@HighTreason610 5 лет назад

Don't remember ever having such a CD. Not being particularly interested in tracker music, beyond the occasional 'hey, that sounds cool' one, I'm afraid I can't think of anything to suggest that might help you track it down.

@cruls5026 10 лет назад

Awesome tunez!

@JoaoPedro-ki7ct 4 месяца назад

Are thre any other examples of comercial demos made by demoscene groups?

@Kali_Krause 2 месяца назад

Second Reality by Future Crew comes to mind

@LegacyMicro 10 лет назад

Cool sound. Thanks for "NOT" using DOSBOX... :)

@HighTreason610 10 лет назад

Thanks... I should get back to uploading tech demos. Oh, and you, sir, have just gotten yourself a subscriber.

@LegacyMicro 10 лет назад

HighTreason610 Thanks for the subscription... Please upload more tech reviews, they are most entertaining. My vids aren't nearly as entertaining as your channel. I use my channel as more of a personal video reference or Ebay demonstration tool.

@HighTreason610 13 лет назад

@timepope Hehe, I have a 486 DX-33, it's built entirely out of garbage parts, love that machine. Darn right the Gravis was the king, in some ways I still think it is, given that most cards seem to have gone back to using the CPU as opposed to doing the work themselves. As for SBPro being a p.o.s, hell yeah, and many programs made for that thing would not work properly with later cards, most of Creative's gear sucked. Funny thing is SBOS (for the GUS) is often better than an actual SoundBlaster.

@1337Shockwav3 13 лет назад

How'd you record those? Use a PC with composite out? Already thought about recording this demo using a stereo covox (!) which actually sounds great as well and this being one of the few demos which support it ... but then again I currently just have a way to record sound.

@pkaak 13 лет назад

I still love the GUS. Still have mine, covered with dust... should try to get all pc parts together to get it working again I guess...

@Szederp 12 лет назад

Thank you for uploading these videos. You are right, nothing beats the original hardware. Can I ask you how you recorded such an old machine? Surely not with a camera, but how?

@astralrock 14 лет назад

6:00 Mandelbrot set! Nice :)

@furbina1975 9 лет назад

oohh lots of memories at 8:00

@Jo037 14 лет назад

cool

@Oosystem 12 лет назад

I had a Sound Blaster 16, and I wondered for many years, how a GUS card would sound in my favorite MS-DOS gmes etc.. Until I got Dosbox working, and configured a GUS card.. It sounds just like module files, (mod, s3m, xm). I remember the Sound Blaster needing extra CPU power to play them. sometimes you had to reduce the samples quality in the game setup. :)

@HighTreason610 12 лет назад

@Szederp I have a box that converts VGA to Component, S-Video and Composite, I use this with a TV Card.

@YakHongYung 13 лет назад

ultrasound quality really amazing, sounds like wav file quality if there can compare what the music part difference between ultrasound and sound blaster or adlib then it will be great!

@TranscendentalAirwaves 8 лет назад

Instant like for using a Packard Bell. lol

@KriscrossnewsDe 8 лет назад

I would like to see MEGADEMO by RealTech, because I did not find ANY recording of this demo

@Dxceor2486 6 лет назад

Is that what you're looking for ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dHNjZwo5MCA.html

@tubeMonger 11 лет назад

As usual coding and music (especially the music!) is very cool. There is no GFX whatsoever, which is typical of PC demos at that stage. Better to have no GFX than lame GFX on the other hand. I have always liked this demo very much.

@YakHongYung 12 лет назад

LizardKing music is GREAT!

@joestes 11 лет назад

Gravis Ultrasound MAX with 1gb

@jihadjoe 7 лет назад

lol there's no such thing. It was 512kB, upgradeable to 1MB, which was a TON of RAM back then.

@timepope 13 лет назад

Oh I miss the days when my computer, a 486dx33, had better sound than any around. Actually, as good as todays computers. The gravis ultrasound was the king... remeber Soundblaster (pro) now that was a peice of shit

@BillyBobTheSmartKid 9 лет назад

Where The Heck Did Gligar13vids Send Me?!?!

@FoxMulder78 Год назад

Here, I suppose.

@Nico93 8 лет назад

Stil remember how you recorded this?

@HighTreason610 8 лет назад

Going by the age of the video and the test card at the start, probably a VGA-Scart box with an S-Video output connected to an old analog capture card. In fact I think this was one of the first, if not the first, which was recorded this way. I would like to re-record it some day with better hardware as it is much easier to do now and better hardware is available allowing for at least 60fps captures. I miss uploading these demos and hope to get back to it eventually, things keep stopping me getting my new GUS rig off the ground though. Probably in a few months I will have it finished as the machine used back when this was recorded gave up a long time ago. Prior to these recordings either a video card's TV OUT was used or else some very old, very odd hardware I don't have anymore. At present I use a Gefen scaler and an Intensity Pro, but this should also change soon as it is getting long in the tooth and better solutions exist now. I think Spirit was the first demo I recorded with the current setup.

@Nico93 8 лет назад

if your really gonna rerecord these someday, how about in 60 frames so we can see how smooth it is?

@HighTreason610 8 лет назад

As I said, that's the plan. Ideally I'd be able to do 70fps but RU-vid doesn't support this - see my recording of Xaos. One reason I haven't pushed so hard to record more yet is because I want the best hardware I can get so the demos can be shown in the highest quality possible.