Thanks so much to everyone for all your support and interest in this series! Here are the past episodes if you missed them: Ep. 1: I Bought A Bonneville, Interceptor, & V7! Which Is Best? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hHD-uyBBezI.html Ep. 2: Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 - WHAT I GOT WRONG ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p4MOxzU_mx8.html Ep. 3: Triumph Bonneville: Let's RUIN Our Exhausts (ON PURPOSE)! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dXp2vyvECDw.html Ep. 4: Moto Guzzi V7: Fixing a STOLEN V7 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HNmJ6IjQkHI.html Ep. 5: Why I SOLD My INTERCEPTOR 650 - Pros & Cons Vs. Bonneville & V7 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f3lc6tFAWDM.html Ep. 6: Triumph BONNEVILLE: BEST HANDLING Used Model (vs. V7, Interceptor) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xsnOLvj0V8M.html Ep. 7: Triumph Bonneville: $100 SUSPENSION Upgrades ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cz011K-Ixfc.html Ep. 8: How I Made My Moto Guzzi V7 GREAT Again ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tg1AnXvH1j0.html Ep. 9: Triumph Bonneville 865 vs Moto Guzzi V7 750 - ULTIMATE OWNER'S REVIEW ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hUj8GxB29O4.html Ride safe, but have fun! Adrian
I agree the V7 (850) is the best retro roadster available. It’s the perfect big brother to my Enfield Classic 350. These two will stay with me for a long time.
I picked up a 2013 V7 Stone 5 years ago. Replaced the speed sensor in the 1st year and besides gas,oil and front brake pads I have enjoyed about 25K of trouble free motorcycling. The V7 always gets noticed wherever you go. It’s a great bike !❤
After 4 Triumphs(Bonnevile America,Tiger 800, Speed Triple and Speed Twin1200),I never tought that I'll end up with 2 Moto Guzzi(V85 TT Travel and V7 Special 850 )Just like you said MG are perfect for me.Great content, enjoyed the series.
The V7 has a ton of character, and character might be one of the most important things when it comes to a second bike. I think I would have come to the same decision as you. I love my triumphs to death, but I still daydream about my two days on a rented V7... There's something about that bike...
In the UK, have a v7 special, owned it from new in 2019. Actually went into a dealers to buy a Honda NC750 and ended up coming out with the Guzzi. It’s the only one of my bikes that I look at the reflection in shop windows, it’s a wonderful design. My bikes come and go but the v7 will stay for Sunday’s
I just bought a V7 3 edition Racer punched out to 850cc with Agostinis and ecu work with Ohlins on the back--it is characterful and fast and more comfortable than my 2000 sv650s. Character is more important than most people think if you only buy by the spec sheet.
Nice, clear and honest video. Glad you decided to keep the V7 in the end. Guzzi is a brand that doesn't let you go once you tasted it. Then again, you are very privileged to live so close to a Guzzi dealer. Mine is 9 hours driving, and although I LOVE (!!) my 17-year old Griso, I would therefore not buy a new Guzzi.
This is the ultimate guide for the Bonneville and V7. My pick would be the V7 too. I really don't know why a lot of manufacturers complicate things when it comes to servicing. Accessibility and tools problems are something very common these days. Anyways a great video. I enjoyed mate. Keep going. Do you plan to ride in Europe again at some point?
I know what you mean about the Bonneville. I had a '14 SE that i absolutely loved, smooth ride, excellent build quality, beautiful design. I wish I had seen your video about the starting issue when I still had it. But.... ultimately I sold it and went back to an 80s Honda Magna. Besides tons more power, the uniqueness of the Magna keeps me smiling every ride.
Can't say anything bad about those old V4s! I felt really dumb when the tech came out, pushed the safety switch back in, and it fired back up perfectly ever since lol
Dealer and parts access had a lot to do with why I purchased a Kawasaki W800. It is not a s powerful or a fast as the Triumph but it has plenty of power for me. It has terrific down low torque and is a pleasure to ride in the city and on the highway. I really like the idea of the shaft drive on the Guzzi however. There are no Guzzi dealers near me or I would have given it serious consideration. All in all I have no regrets with the W800 even if it is a little higher priced than some. The Japanese quality is beyond reproach. Hot traffic has me shutting the engine down at long lights due to the air only cooling but the sound of the true 360 degree crank engine is as 1960s authentic as it gets. Cheers Bob in Ottawa
Mr. You- That's a spot-on evaluation of two fine bikes! I bought an '06 Triumph Thruxton (Bonneville) with some of my Afghanistan combat pay based on an article in one of the motorcycle magazines I saw overseas, but a subsequent ride on a Guzzi Stornello showed it to be a really fun bike also (due to its lower weight I think). My Triumph came with their "racing" pipes which added a lot of character, along with a couple of carb jet/air filter mods to make me completely pleased with it. And I don't think MotoGuzzi has any dealerships within 500 mile of where I live.
I’ve owned both separately for about 2 years. They were both my only bike. I stayed with the Triumph. Because it’s more useful as an only bike. I commute and I just got back from 400 mile road trip. If I had 2 bikes I might think differently.
Just watched the last of your series of the mid sized retro bikes. Fantastic! Very well done and laid out. Having had two of the three bikes, everything you mentioned was correct. Now you have me rethinking which bike to keep lol. The Triumph is so sweet but there is nothing like the Guzzi for character. Like you said, I already have smooth touring bikes so the Triumph is just an extension of that 🤔. One downfall that my Triumph has over the Bonny you had that is a mark against it is that it has tubed tires 🙈 You gave me lots to think about Well done! Cheers
Thank you for the most interesting evaluation of the three motorcycles that are currently on my radar. I owned a 2005 Bonneville T100 and regret selling it. I have been off two wheels for a while now and am ready to ride again after a health problem and as lot of rehab. I plan to go look at several motorcycles in the next couple of weeks. I'll most likely be buying a used machine. But even new bikes of the three suspects are not all that bad, and I don't give a crap about depreciation.
The handle bar really isnt an issue. You dont drill holes in the bar, you grind 90% of the locating pins down on the switch gear. Dont over tighten the clamps, and it will hold just fine. Every person is different, so locating pins are a ridiculous idea.. My Ducati had the same thing. Far more comfort rotating all the gears to your liking. Excellent video btw.
Superb series. Loved every episode of it!; Very good to see your honesty on all three bikes. Glad you chose to keep the V7 :) I'm a bit biased, I've got a V7 myself haha!
Well, I have enjoyed your series and was not surprised with the end results. For me, I'll go with the Bonneville as I grew up around British bikes. Enjoy your Guzzi, Cheers Dave
Thanks so much for stopping by Dave. I really wanted more from the Bonneville. It might be time to spend some time on the new 2017+ ones. Heck, maybe it's time for a whole "The Next Generation" series... One thing at a time :)
Thanks very much! I'm already flirting with the idea of a liquid cooled bonnie vs v7 850cc vs a w800 if i can finally get my hands on one... but I wouldn't be able to get the current generation of those motorcycles for prices anywhere near these so I'm not sure I can justify it.
Nice work! Concise and well explained. Im a rider w/ 55vyrs and Honda, Yamaha, H D. as well as Guzzi experience. m now on my 2nd Guzzi. Love my 2022 v85 tt. Works well in Tx Pangle and in the New Mex trustees. Perfect??? Nope. Really good YEP.. Thanks.
Thank you for your honest vid. I to like the Moto Guzzi. I have had 45 motorcycles and tend to like the one's with personality.........like my Women.....
Excellent series. Depending on the years of the bikes, your results would have changed, since the newer VII Guzzi have 6 speeds now and the newer T100 has water cooled engine, but still only a 5 speed. (I still think I would have picked the same one as you for the type of riding you are using it for.) Thanks again for such an interesting comparison.
Good suggestion! I had bought some from Amazon, but took them out for the scene because I wanted to really show people some clear examples of the random and unnecessary finicky-ness of this motorcycle.
Ok Adrian, the more I listen to your review the more I thought you would pick the Moto Guzzi. Then you choose the Bonneville but throughout the video, you describe it as dependable but boring. Then, at the end, what do you do? You announce the Moto Guzzi as the best bike for you. I have to agree the Moto Guzzi I think matched your riding personality. Cheers Dave
Howdy 🤠 That’s bit surprising review on Bonneville, and only reason it seemed like you’d keep it is for 2 up. But, for like ya said, everything else, the V7 fits what you’re wanting, & you have other bikes to do 2 up & such. Which has me wondering if you’ll make trip down to IN to review Janus 450. I feel you’d give it fair review tbh.
I wouldn’t pick V7 as before mentioned height issue, lol. But, tbh, I’m not huge on the cafe style bikes. I more so like the UJM for coming from across pond kinda classic style, although the Bonnie T120 is blast to ride, as long as you’re comfy with such heavy bike in twisties, lol. Although, I’m considering a Janus for in town, as it’ll get up plenty of speed, & is super light. But, I’m gonna test ride one before I’ll order, just because it may not be something I’ll want. Then again, finding them used is cheaper than a RE, lol.
The 2 differences are, the Guzzi touches your soul, the Triumph is for people who are bothered about what everyone's else's soul perceives the bike to be. It's soulless, Triumph is a resurrected company, like many others. Left in a limbo state for years before someone bought the name. Now mostly made in Taiwan. Guzzi, well nothing more to say 😊
I think both Bikes are amazing. but the lack of dealers as well as their concentration of dealers for Moto Guzzi pushed me towards the Bonnie. There are like 60 MG dealers in the US with HUGE amounts of the country hours and hours from a dealer. Triumph has like 180 in all the continental US (I think). I think your final call was correct. The Bonnie is probably the best all around bike on the market. Its an amazing one and done bike. Its a Rolex sub. The MG has flaws, but more character. I think in both cases the updated models solve a lot of the issues you did have with them.
Agree 100%. The dealer situation really should be carefully considered and will be a difference maker for a lot of people. I really want to get my hands on a current generation V7 and Bonneville (and maybe a W800 if I can), but... those are all more expensive than this older gen so... no promises that's going to happen any time soon lol
Hey Karl! Just come back to this page/video at 11 and it should start playing by itself, if not, refresh it. I've only done a premiere once before so I'm still learning as I go to be honest haha.
It should definitely be a factor to consider in a segment of the market that tries to play to history and heritage. I had no issues at all with the quality of the made in Thailand Bonneville. The Triumph Speed 400 series is made in India and at first glance looks pretty good... But I know some people who thought they were buying into "British Heritage" that might take issue when they discover where their Bonneville is made, and I get it.
I know your conspiracy theory is that the more complicated you make simple maintenance the more likely they are to take it to a dealer to carry out the maintenance, which makes them more profit than selling the bike but i really think that especially for non japanese manufacturers that ease of maintenance is just an afterthought
I'm thinking about doing a follow up series comparing the next generation of these bikes... but it'll depend on how low prices go during the winter. Probably not low enough haha.
Fail to see how a bike exactly 1/2 the price of its so called competitors is even included? Here in Australia the interceptor is $10k and the other two $20k. Guzzi wins by default as triumph is just over the top expensive for service parts and price.🤷🏻
@@neildransfield5966 you missed the part of the video where I mentioned that the interceptor was the most expensive of the three motorcycles in the series...
I tried getting one for this series but the deal fell through. Moving forward it all depends on if I'm doing another retro bike series or not and if the price is right.