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Triumph forks rebuild late sixties shuttle valve type and some unexpected pattern parts issues! 

Paul Henshaw
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A simple enough and straight forward enough job, surely? Undoing the seal holders and shuttle valve retainers would be the two possibly most difficult aspects of the job? Yeah, right ...

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4 окт 2024

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@durmazon6963
@durmazon6963 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your effort in showing us how to rebuild this shuttle valve type fork. I am trying to convert one for my 1950's BSA B31 in other to fit the better 2LS brake.
@benturner7774
@benturner7774 4 месяца назад
Feel your pain Paul. Had exactly the same issues when rebuilding my Daytona forks. I accrued so many "spares " while trying to get new parts to fit with old. Shocking!
@downunder4087
@downunder4087 11 месяцев назад
Good to see I'm not alone in having compatibility problems between new parts that are supposed to mate together.
@ChristopherCobb-nm3kl
@ChristopherCobb-nm3kl 11 месяцев назад
Great job Paul, the struggle with pattern parts !
@ianstewart576
@ianstewart576 11 месяцев назад
Good old reliable stilsons. If you ever need a large set, being ex- heating engineer,I have some 48" s you could borrow. Great video. Just goes to show how badly these "new" old parts are made. I trust the client will appreciate all your efforts Paul. We certainly do. Thanks.
@iivaridark6850
@iivaridark6850 11 месяцев назад
Just unbelievable! Great you could, with ingenuity, actually get the job done!
@neilmcintosh1200
@neilmcintosh1200 11 месяцев назад
Yet another task for the experienced fitter.
@Mr39knuck
@Mr39knuck 11 месяцев назад
Beautiful work as usual. My fourth clanked over the bumps from 1979 until 2019, when I finally rebuilt them for the third time and changed the damper sleeve to put the thick part at the bottom. What a remarkable change that made. It is so much more pleasant not having that clunk.
@brockett
@brockett 11 месяцев назад
An interesting video, as always and a chance to see the inside of triumph forks. So thanks for that. Imperial dimensions for parts made in a metric world whether it's 'O' rings or the grooves they sit in is likely to be the cause of much frustration. That said, buying carburettor parts and 'O' rings for old Japanese bikes, can be a similar nightmare.
@christophersmith7714
@christophersmith7714 9 месяцев назад
Also you never showed the fitting of the oil drain plug into the cone shaped restrictor and the hex head retaining bolt and aluminum washer fitted into the wheel spindle cutaway recess. This always causes problems. Great instructional video btw. Cheers
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@850mrnorton
@850mrnorton 11 месяцев назад
Excellent job, McGiver style, well done
@philrulon
@philrulon 11 месяцев назад
Nice hack with the Brasso on the threads. Hadn’t ever tried that one. I’ll have to find a way to remember it for later.
@NaziHampster
@NaziHampster 11 месяцев назад
Forkin hell, good save.
@lesmontgomery6498
@lesmontgomery6498 11 месяцев назад
I have a belzer hinged c spanner 8 0r 9 inches long 1967 tool still good.
@gregcampbell8888
@gregcampbell8888 11 месяцев назад
Gosh after all that work I hope the springs fit inside those non-standard seal holders!
@hermangibbs8163
@hermangibbs8163 11 месяцев назад
You are amazing. Thanks !
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 11 месяцев назад
Wow, thanks, Herman!
@russturner1570
@russturner1570 3 месяца назад
The "lower spring seat' does not belong in shuttle valve forks.There is only the large washer that supports the spring.
@norsehall309
@norsehall309 11 месяцев назад
G'day Paul, those pattern parts probably came out of India, l have ordered fork parts for my BSA lightning, hope l don't have crappy aftermarket parts sent as my tool kits not as good as yours, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
@zachwrench
@zachwrench 11 месяцев назад
Those seal holders brought some headache
@davidcullen4829
@davidcullen4829 11 месяцев назад
So, the issue is the seal holder, clearly not the correct part, the other parts are fine. Would it have not been better to get the correct seal holders ? Your patience is amazing.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 11 месяцев назад
They were the 'correct' seal holders, but made to the wrong tolerances. The owner sent them to me along with the forks and most of the other new parts for rebuilding them.
@melvynrogers3149
@melvynrogers3149 11 месяцев назад
Hi there ..these are my forks paul is working on..all parts supplied came from a so called uk classic bike parts supplier...
@adammedyna2365
@adammedyna2365 11 месяцев назад
@@melvynrogers3149 you will have another fight ahead of you to install springs and rubbers on the top of the seal holders which have their edges to wide to make this part of a job easy. As David said faulty pattern seal holders ruined it and in my case without a lathe I'd be forced to buy originals.
@jumpinjee
@jumpinjee 9 месяцев назад
It seems you have the wrong seal holders. The threads on the slider changed to unified threads at serial number DU68363. The prior part number is 96-1654; post part number is 96-3633.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, but the owner supplied them and one screwed on ok, the other less so ...
@jumpinjee
@jumpinjee 9 месяцев назад
Probably a mix and match slider set then; it happens.
@a65builder67
@a65builder67 11 месяцев назад
hi Paul only last week i bought some clutch spring nuts for my c15 trials and when i tried to fit them they were the wrong thread as luck had it i had the right tap so re threaded them job done but what should of took 15 mins it about 3/4 to an hour to sort it. it's a joke who ever did the QC, on these must of been pissed
@melvynrogers3149
@melvynrogers3149 11 месяцев назад
I feel your pain..i despair at the shoddy quality of pattern parts..i did look for genuine oil seal retainers but no luck so tried an online parts supplier from the uk..now im bracing myself for the heafty bill...
@MegaTubescreamer
@MegaTubescreamer 11 месяцев назад
the `o` ring grooves might have not been undercut enough ? if there`s enough meat to get a small boring tool in and machine it out on the lathe paul ,that could cure the fit but admittedly its a a bit of a fiddly forking task !! 😁👍
@pauldillingham7652
@pauldillingham7652 9 месяцев назад
Most of the sellers are just selling MCA and Wassell parts that are complete rubbish. My belief is, that to avoid intellectual property issues, they change key dimensions, so, of course, they don’t fit. Always best to ask before you buy.
@p--n
@p--n 11 месяцев назад
Would it not have been easier to procure the correct seal holders rather than tweek everything else?
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 11 месяцев назад
They were 'correct', just not made to the exact original tolerances and who is to say the next set would be a perfect fit? Perhaps I might have ended up with a few sets which weren'r quite right. That is often the trouble with modern replica parts. I was able to sort them out with some basic lathe work and a bit of 'elbow grease', job done.
@p--n
@p--n 11 месяцев назад
@@paulhenshaw4514 oh I hear you Paul and I feel for you when every job basically becomes a one off. Not everyone has your skill set.
@christophersmith7714
@christophersmith7714 9 месяцев назад
Name and shame the company that makes and/or sells that crap!
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 9 месяцев назад
The owner of the forks provided the out of spec new parts, I don't know their origins.
@christophersmith7714
@christophersmith7714 9 месяцев назад
@@paulhenshaw4514 I did this very same job a couple of years ago and used repro parts. Never had a single problem with them not fitting. My repro parts obviously never came from China!
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