What do you think of Tron: Legacy? Does the masterful execution make up for its mediocre story? Be sure to stick around long enough to catch the next video in my Tron series : Tron: Legacy - Designing the Grid
TRON I could believe happened in a computer. The sequel just seemed too organic. The characters eating, a rocky terrain, light cycles not making 90 degree turns, etc. But, I'm still very disappointed that a sequel is not currently in the works. I could believe the first one was in a computer. Legacy, not so much.
What is not known about this film or Kosinski’s other alleged film is that he did not make an unfinished graphic novel of Oblivion. He did not write the screenplay or story boards for either film. He mearly signed his name to both and is a fraud and a plagiarist. I don’t care if you believe me or not. This will come out as well as an entire strike of plagiarisms. Wait and see... Best, R. C. Christian
It was the dimmest of people, who were not capable of understanding Legacy, who contributed the most to Disney bean counters not green lighting a third film. Thank them... some of them are here spewing their two digit IQs and tic-tac sized wieners...
@@LammyV collider don't know shit dude, there is no Tron sequel coming cus if therte was with the backlash to Gina Carano's firing and the SW high republic Geode thing that news would be what they need to divert attention away, that news hasn't circulated so i call BS on it....and this being 2 and 3 months ago?? to a 2 year old comment?? yer full of it man and so is Collider..... Collider is one of the biggest hack jobs on YT
TRON Legacy is in my top ten. I always cry when Flynn's father sacrifices himself for his son. I also LOVE the soundtrack by Daft Punk and listen to it often. I loved these Easter Eggs.
My favorite movie since I saw it in IMAX 3D. People are always confused that I have one favorite, and it's a movie they've heard of, but never watched because someone told them it was tacky or lame.
Great soundtrack indeed. Would I have loved a bigger role for Tron? Sure, but I don't take issue with that or anything else that is often criticized with the film. I saw it in IMAX 3D and it was the best experience I have ever had in a theater (maybe 2nd to Star Wars in 1977 where I wet myself....I was 4).
Fantastic analysis of a fantastic film. There is actually ONE other reference to Wendy Carlos' music for the original Tron, when Sam approaches the Tron arcade game at Flynn's, you can briefly hear an 8-bit rendition of free track TRON Scherzo! I always loved that detail, as Tron Scherzo was my favorite track from the original movie.
Another detail you missed about The Black Hole: Not only did Joseph Kosinski wanted to do a remake, but the original Black Hole has a connection to TRON. Steven Lisberger, the director of the original film, had to prove to Disney that he would be able to achieve the glowing line effects and that he was able to be a director, so he had to shoot a test film. This test film actually recycled a lot of props from The Black Hole (which had finished filming at the time that Lisberger was pitching TRON to Disney). So, the references in T:L to The Black Hole wasn't just a hint at what Kosinski wanted to do, but it was a call back to the history of TRON itself.
Thank you so much for analyzing Tron Legacy. It's such a great masterpiece that deserves to be appreciated much more. Maybe you can also make some videos about Tron Uprising as well?
Well, I assume that he's just that good. Also, new ENCOM really doesn't seem to care about morals or producing a quality product based on how the CEO answers Alan's question about ENCOM OS12's new features, "we put a twelve on it."
True, but it says Kevin took control in 82, right after catching Dillinger Sr. So how would have Jr. EVER got in the door?... It's a stretch. Cool callback tho! He's pretty cool in it for such a small part...
Fun fact. Bally as a company started in the 1930's, started as a pre-1930 "pinball" game company. Their first game was Bally Hoo. Give it a search, if you want more information let me know.
Excellent trivia, dude. Looking forward too the next Tron videos. It was due to Legacy that I become an ardent viewer of Kosinski. His production design and attention to symmetry are all elements that should be praised. Though the worst of aspect from his works, is that his narratives are too ambitious for their own good (see Oblivion). Though I feel that quirk has gradually improved with last year's Only The Brave. A severely underrated biographical drama that manages to integrate way more artistry and benevolence, than anything Peter Berg's chocked out in the past few years.
Really? I didn't get a chance to see Only the Brave; my local theatres had it for maybe a week. Glad Kosinski could do well with a simpler story. Shame that Oblivion was so bloated. If you cut out the first 30min, putting it around the 90min mark, it's not too bad. Cuts out a lot of the repeated exposition and unnecessary flashbacks.
You now I always wondered what if clue had his army escaped from the grid, the laser will over load and what about the building when a massive airship is generated inside of it
That’s one of the moments the film broke my suspension of disbelief. I didn’t like the idea of Clu leaving the system. It went against his entire directive. His directive was to make the Grid perfect, not to escape. That entire concept breaks the idea of conservation of mass and the fundamental physics of the Tron world. Quorra was a rare case because she has a genetic structure not too different from a human’s. However, there isn’t nearly enough matter inside the laser to create Clu’s entire army. Also, the machines of the Grid don’t abide by Newtonian physics and elementary atomic rules. They’re designed to be run through code since that behaves differently from the real world. They would never translate to the real world.
@@KizaruB Wasnt the idea that Clu wanted to go out and then bring his armies? If he is a copy of Flin its reasonable to assume he have DNA too .And his purpose is to create the perfect system. Ans since the Tron world is only part of the real world, he want to "Fix" the whole system, not only the Tron part.
Fellow fans, can any of you help me figure out: What is the exact meaning of the numbers on the computer screen in the scene where Sam enters the grid? [search "Tron Legacy Computer Scene"] It says "20 : 11 : 20 : 16 : 22 : 16 : 34" at some point. The end "16 : 34" appear to clearly move at the rate of seconds : milliseconds respectively. The beginning "20 : 11" could be the year as the film was released in Nov 2010 I believe. But then none of 20, 16, 22 can be months... a possible explanation would be year (20)20: Month 11: Day 20: Hour 16: Minute 22: Second 16: Millisecond 34, but Sam's age difference (27 at dinner, 7ish at bedtime, and 1989 Flynn disappearance) implies the storyline should take place near 2009. Appreciate the input!
@bookonthestreet ... well DONE! This was Golden! I've watched the original just 2yrs after theatrical release as a kid and opening night when Tron 2 Legacy debut and even I missed some of these many references but not the Big Door or all in the wrist nor Finish The Game. That last one stuck like sweep the leg. Now I'm hunting for the deep dive of this movie having many characters named after Unix programs in honor of the programmers that created them.
Enjoyed the video!! I love watching Easter egg hunts for movies I like. Personally wished you let the intro music play out a little more but thats just me. Overall it was a nice video, in the middle seemed like you were going back and forth with some of the Easter eggs without explaining their significance. It may be better to talk about fewer eggs and more into their importance with the movie ( I saw a lot of that towards the end).
Allen Bradley, is also a massive product and manufacturer in the area of a few electronics things, "just a few"... Ranging from circuit breakers, to electric motors to controllers, to chip manufacturing, wiring, PCB software and design, a odd range of equipment for residential to heavy industrial and commercial use, special one off's machines, pick and place SMT robots, and so much more..... only being rivaled by Kumatsu, Toyota, Hitachi, etc... Allen Bradley corps is one of the leading in break through technology of the world. That is in case somebody didn't know that and how that opens up how powerful Allen Bradley position in the movie as an innovator, inventor, with full ability of R&D, while never fearing the risks to try something new when a new idea had never been done before and was only a theory. Allen Bradley also has the patience to hold back and only use the bare minimum to get the job done as a back up measure is always behind door number 2, 3, 4, 5, ....1000 etc... Why show your hand out of the gate and squash the whole playing field? The competitive nature to not squash the opposing side completely, allows them to keep their own desire in the game, so Allen Bradley will always have somebody to play the game with, as they themselves do their best to be innovative, (They try). It is a never ending, state of perpetual war or never ending game(s). Sure, Allen Bradley could just squash them all in one move, but then what would he do? There is a fear of getting bored to death, literally. There is a balance that gets created by Allen Bradley that is stimulated by him allowing him to inspire them to find their own desire to keep trying to be innovative to compete, the realist nature of man, to win. These others inspire him, in theory, and becomes a never ending game and somehow, in all the chaos, there is balance.... With balance, it becomes self sustaining of its own existence as a system or economy of sorts... Allen Bradley is the PCB (printed circuit board) and the Flynn's at each stage are the chip set or processors. There is balance in that one can not be or work with out the other, they need each other in the end game to exist. Allen Bradley is holding or harnessing the power for the processor at multiple I/O's, and the Flynn's are the chip set/processors. Welp, this was fun, I likely and completely appear to be off my rocker like a nutcase now.. I still enjoyed the theorizing.. Shall I continue with my nutcasery?
6:06 the bits also have a reference to the traditional colour scheme for the helmets worn by Daft Punk, the composers for the films score. One gold for the Guy-Manuel helmet and one silver for the Thomas helmet, though the duo both don white helmets in the film.
Funny that the song the jukebox is stuck on is Separate Ways by Journey...it sums up Kevin Flynn's feelings for Alan and Lora, not that he was going to try to put a wedge between them, he just missed Lora...
When I was a little girl, I'd draw the TRON logo into my school notebooks. If I'd been a little girl a little later, I'd have drawn Babylon 5 into my school notebooks.: )
A subtle reference you didn't mention is about Kevin Flynn himself: He appears to be modeled, in appearance, clothing, and attitude, after British Zen Buddhist Master and Philosopher Alan Watts. I suspect his line "you're ruining my Zen thing here, man" is a direct allusion to this.
A bit late to the game but..Another EoL reference...Castor's place is called the 'End of Line Club'. Also a bit of pedantry..in the original film, the game Sark screams at Flynn to finish was the jai-hlai game, not a disc battle (a scene with Peter Jurasik, who later worked with Boxleitner on Babylon 5).
Loved this movie. It captured so much of what made the original great, without retreading too closely (a la The Force Awakens). I really wish they would make more. But, please.... no digital faces this time - It pulls me out of the movie every time.
SO Tron premier in Lester Sq was FREEZING as Fook and Martin sheen went to go ask two guys camping out for an event if they where for the movie, NAH BRAH WOW CATACLISUM launch was in 2 days Duuuude sleeping out that night was awful cos it was ice cold.
Now Disney needs to do a new Cartoon movie and then a few years later a live movie version! Most movies don't have hidden details if you take your phone and turn it off and watch the movie!
Yup. Good ol’ MCP reference. However, I’m surprised they restrained themselves from making a Hello World joke, given this movie glorifies computers and code.
I still watch it, but it was a rip off of Mary Shelly Frankenstein. I would have rather that somehow the MCP had arranged a backup of itself in various systems in the original, and when the Internet got strong enough, his fragments got back together. Especially it would have worked with the ISOs, and the film would have ended like an Empire Strikes Back style.
@@jeshonloonskin4176 When Flynn created his latest version of CLU, he created his monster. Then the fact that he gave this monster a "limited" intelligence, giving him almost every power that Flynn had, and by telling the creature to create the "perfect" system. In effect, CLU was Frankenstein's monster, and he simply followed Flynn's instructions. It was only fortunate that CLU was in a "self-contained" universe in a "stand alone" system. Flynn was not smart enough to understand the power he was messing with, like Dr. Frankenstein. He was only LUCKY he did not give the old desktop Dillinger had a network connection. If CLU got into the "INTERNET", wow what could he have done? The only difference between Frankenstein and TRON Legacy was that it was in a VIRTUAL limited universe, not on a countryside. Does this help?
I see what the significance of the disk is now. Funny how no one never talked about it, or maybe it's because they already know and that's why they hate the movie. The significance of the "Disk" is actually your soul. If you lose it, you'll be subject to immediate derez. Easy.
The Devils flaw. The pursuit of perfection. An ancient story. To describe the Devils mentality.....and why God made this.....perfectly flawed world.....perfectly! Devil doesn’t understand.......for he was as close to perfect as God. Thus his Flaw.....and his purpose. Understand my son. You will!
