Why Modern Movies Suck - They're Written By Children 

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Personally think of it like this: most older movies were stories, most modern movies are spectacles.

Glad to see someone else sees this. My dad puts it this way "Imagine a group of middle schoolers coming together to rewrite all classic films and IPs. That's modern media."

Have you noticed the increase in “adult” language? In the old movies, swearing isn’t used unless the dialogue demands it to make the lines more impactful. Today they sound like 8 year olds on Xbox live.

"Losing control is not a sign of strength. It's a sign of deep weakness and insecurity" THIS!!!!!!!

"Isn't it great when characters act like actual adults?" YES! yes it is!

What's worse is when you have a serious film where the adults act like children and the children act like adults.

I think part of this ultimately comes down to the life experiences and history of the individuals actually writing the story. Since you mentioned Star Trek, let’s look at Gene Roddenberry for example… this is a guy who flew 89 combat missions during WW2 and worked as a commercial pilot after the war. He later joined the LAPD and eventually got involved in the entertainment industry after becoming a liaison on shows like Dragnet. My point is that all of these life experiences fed into his ideas and inspirations when it came to Star Trek (as well as more traditional inspirations such as other works of fiction like John Carter of Mars and Tarzan). Now compare this to people like Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci who co-wrote both of the JJ Abrams-directed Star Trek movies. The two of them met in high school, and after university went straight into writing for syndicated television, which eventually led to progressively bigger and more high-profile gigs. My reason for making this comparison is: what inspiration did the latter duo have to draw from when writing THEIR Star Trek? The answer is nothing except for _previous Star Trek_ (and other sci-fi movies). That’s why Star Trek into Darkness was such an inept, lacklustre rehash of Wrath of Khan, because Kurtzman and Orci remember _watching_ that movie as kids, and have fond memories of it, but have nothing new or original to actually bring to the table. And I’m not suggesting here that in order to write compelling stories you need to have literally gone to war or been a cop, I’m simply talking about LIFE experiences _outside_ of your career as a “writer”… and that can be literally anything from working in a factory to being a fisherman or even just working in a convenience store (such as Kevin Smith who went on to make Clerks which launched his career). The problem as I see it is that way too many leading names in the entertainment industry these days just seem to be individuals who came out of high school/university and straight into a career in filmmaking. Often times this can be attributed simply to nepotism but in many cases that’s not necessarily the case. Even people who gain success in the industry by starting relatively low and working their way up, (while commendable in its own right) still lack the vital life experiences _outside_ of the industry to write compelling and convincing narratives.

So on the mark! When someone is yelling at me, I raise the shields! The screaming/yelling characters are bad enough but its almost always combined with visual overload. Totally mind-numbing. With Star Trek, these the men and women are the elite of the elite of the elite and yet they behave like they haven't yet mastered puberty. Yelling can and does work-- in a Few Good Men, when Tom Cruise starts to shout at Jack Nicholson in the court room, and the latter loses his cool, it was riveting and had every bit of my attention. Both felt in control even while Jack's control slipped, and they were focus of the scene. The scene where Sauron and Galadriel are yelling at each other reminded me of a 10 year old brother and sister and both are thousands of years old.

My god, this video was so on the mark.

remember when a character going into a fit of rage was seen as the character hitting rock bottom and not just a quirky character trait?

The other great bit of the Data/Worf scene is that neither Data nor the writer intends to "knock down Worf a peg or two". Worf gets a redemption later on in the episode with his "health and safety inspection" idea ... which Data initially rejects, then reconsiders, showing that the earlier incident has done nothing to diminish Worf in anyone's eyes. Worf shows character in owning up to his behavior, and Data shows character in not holding it against him any further than the conversation. The writer got it.

I think a major factor in why the old star trek was so great was that many of the cast and crew had served in the military at one point(many were wwii vets if im not mistaken). Thus they understood good leadership and how to portray there characters in a believable way. It's also just a byproduct of the era they lived in.

The worst thing about new Star Trek is seeing Spock, a guy who holds thoughtfulness and logic to be the highest thing, running around yelling and not being able to control himself

"They're Written By Children." Well your characters are only ever as smart as you can write them.

Writing used to be the mandatory path to Directing. It was like leveling up on a video game; you learned the ropes from the ground floor. Today too many go straight to Directing without a foundation in good story telling.

Amen on the Worf/Data scene. The problem with modern writers is that they themselves don't understand the fundamentals of human psychology and morality/ethics to be able to integrate the principles into their work, let alone practice them in their personal lives.

Frank Herbert himself said it best: "There's an unwritten compact between you and the reader. If someone enters a bookstore and sets down hard-earned money (energy) for your book, you owe that person some entertainment." Movies written by actual children would probably be at least somewhat entertaining. Current writers forget that their movies should be something you want to see because they'll be an enjoyable experience.

The fucking ewok in Return of the Jedi who shakes his dead friend on the battlefield and briefly grieves to realize he's dead had more depth and emotional impact than the trash produced today. That's how far we have fallen from grace.

I think it’s interesting to compare movies about WWII from today with those from the 1950s, 60s and 70s. They were written, directed and acted by people who actually remembered the war and in many cases fought in it. This is why their films are so much more sophisticated and nuanced.

Modern audiences would demand that Data and Worf scream at each other until “strong female character” walks in and insults their masculinity with a series of one liners. Then Data and Worf leave with their tails between their legs while audiences scream “YASSSS QUEEN!”

"Why Modern Movies Suck - They're Written By Children" Never a statement has been so truthful than this.

I feel like another aspect of the infantilization of entertainment is that there seems to be an increasing demand that everybody in the audience "gets" every single aspect of the film. Old Trek was full of literary references and allusions, many of which I missed when I watched for the first time. It was rewarding to come back later and appreciate the films more the second time around. Futurama is another good example - there were some jokes that I didn't understand until after I finished a math degree, for crying out loud. Writers/directors seem increasingly worried that they'll offend their audiences by making them feel stupid. But every time I've recognized that there was something I didn't understand in a film/TV show, it became an opportunity for me to learn about something new.

Remember back when Riker, the most rambunctious character in next generation, would ask for permission to speak freely, and then he would say a line that sounded like Dumbledore wrote it, and Picard would look almost shocked that Riker would speak so straightforwardly, and yet it was absolutely polite and respectful

This is why I love Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Sure, it's a kids movie, but the movie can actually take risks at some points by analysing themes that can appeal to adults (death and anxiety), despite being aimed for kids, and it can portray them better than alot of adult movies we have today.

Kirk wavering and breaking stride as he gives Spock's eulogy is more impactful and grief stricken than anyone bawling and weeping. Actors and directors have forgotten how to be subtle.

I am 48 now and when I was watching this old Star Trek movie - as a kid - I was much more moved by the way the characters dealt with things. Nowadays it's just screaming. Literally everywhere. Even on the Social Media... I wonder why..?

They simply cannot write a logical character like Spock anymore because the writers don't know what logic is.

I walked in on my dad watching Wrath of Khan right as Spock was dying. I know peanuts about Star Trek. Not only did I feel sad watching that scene even with no context, but also, years later, I can still see in my mind Spock slowly sliding down the glass as he died.

My father used to say that Star Trek is for grown ups as Star Wars is for children, but not in a bad way for any of them, just that Star Trek is for nourishing your intellect while Star Wars is for numb fun. Now Star Trek tries to be Star Wars, while Star Wars is basically Teletubbies.

They think a complex character means being a minority, or being strong means belittling others.

It speaks so much to the richness of the characters, quality of the writing, and Shatner's incredible acting that in the few seconds of you playing the clip of Kirk eulogy to Spock I felt a lump in my throat forming. Precisely because the characters are holding back emotion and exercising restraint, we as the audience get to experience simply more things at once. We feel simultaneously what they are feeling, how they are expressing it, why they are doing so, the difficulty of doing so, and then exactly the ways they fail to do so. It's the difference between a delicious meal made of many complimentary flavours, aged meats, and a sauce that took almost days to make, paired with the perfect red wine, versus chicken nuggets and far too much ketchup. As one matures, one learns not only the ways flavour can interact, but also exactly what those flavours took to create, and you prefer that sensory and emotional experience to the one note intensity of a single flavour, maximised. Star Trek: Beyond is the chicken nuggets to Wrath of Khan's beef wellington.

That was exactly the reaction I had to the first of the Abrams' interpretations of Star Trek: the script was written by a nine-year-old boy. "Captain Kirk is so terrific, he goes from raw recruit to senior officer in six weeks!"

That one scene where Kirk got choked up had more emotional impact than entire series' produced today. Literally made me tear up.

As a child, I liked the old Star Trek movies and TV shows precisely because they were about confident, competent adults. Children need positive role models they can aspire to emulate. Don't give children everything they want - give them what they need.

Movies, TV, and video are the biggest examples, but I have also noticed the same trend in Anime in the last 10 years. Almost every month it seems the same story comes out with a fresh coat of paint. The MC is an ordinary person who is either overworked or bullied in our world, and just because they want to, they get whisked to another world where with little explanation they suddenly become powerful, attractive, popular, and often have no flaws. There is no hero's journey, no real obstacle to overcome, no personal sacrifice besides the initial plot-driving catastrophe. So many modern anime stories are just Mary-Sue power fantasies, where the MC is a shameless self-insert of the writer's idealized personality. In our world they are practically invisible, or unappreciated for their efforts. In this "other" world, they become something akin to an invincible God, perfect in every way by virtue of existing. Modern writing is about as deep as week-old puddle in the Sahara.

I was raised on the original Star Trek series, I own all the movies and the STNG series. The characters were all well developed, story lines were logical an easy to follow. These were forms of entertainment that did that in spades and taught the occasional life lesson. I can't recall the last movie I bought anymore.... it's been at least 10 years I know.

There's an interview with Shatner (on the bluray I think), where he talks about how hard he worked to nail that "let them die" scene. He didn't agree with it and didnt think it was something Kirk would say. He agreed to do the scene as long as the moment the says it, he realises what he says and you see him give a physical expression to show that he regretted it. I think that little gesture is still in the scene, but Shatner was not happy with the way Nicholas Meyer edited it, to separate the "let them die" and the gesture of regret, by cutting ro Spock. He felt that you NEEDED to see the gesture in the same shot to emphasise how it was a "shit, I shouldn't have said that" moment. Can you imagine ANYONE from Discovery putting that much thought or care in to their characters' scenes?

When I was stationed aboard a ship, my skipper was always in control. He had to be because he had 180 souls under his command that he was responsible for. He always had emotional control over himself, and by extension everyone on the bridge. If someone fucked up he didn’t freak out. He would correct the mistake immediately and then teach why it was a mistake. I’d follow him any day because he was an excellent leader and man.

It is genuinely fascinating how old bad movies manage to be better than bad movies today.

I think it has to do with where our writers are coming from. Scifi authors back in the day, like Bradbury and Niven, were scientists first and writers second, because they dreamed of a world they hoped to one day see, and only wanted to show others their vision. But nowadays, the writers are there to be writers. They studied writing, practice writing, and ape writing, and so are basically just writing fanfics, and we all know how that goes. Larry Niven put it well; many authors want to *have written* not to *write*. When you love writing, you put your heart and soul into it. When you love having written, you put in the lowest-quality, half-assed job you can get away with, and shove it out as quickly as possible to better inflate your ego.

Funny how the modern, supposedly "non-toxic" versions of these men are the ones screaming at each other and punching each other in the face... 😂

Case in point: I teach resident physicians and prepare them for a board exam. Last year, I was reviewing teaching cases with a resident, and I told her that I thought she needed to study harder, or she wouldn't be ready for her board exam. She complained to the department chair, and I was chastised for being hard on her. A few months later, she failed her board exam, and then complained that it was because her teachers failed to adequately prepare her.

Y know I’m starting to more and more see movies in depth and appreciate the slow paced masterpieces. The drinker is a wonderful guide.

The problem is social media. Holywood tries to appeal to a primarily teenage audience (hence why most movies have gone from an 18+ rating to a 16+ rating) simply because of the fact that teenagers handle social media and create hype around things so a movie that appeals to that audience will spread hype like wildfire and if you throw flashy things, fights and grunts (primarily what teenagers relate to) it means, they will make more money at the box office. Tip: Switch to European cinema. It still upholds everything we like about old movies. Europe has produced some masterpieces in the last years, specially French, German, Spanish and the ones from Nordic countries.

In my Scriptwriting class in college, my professor condemned STAR TREK as being misogynistic and racist. He spent like an hour talking about why it's bad. I knew then that my professor was a garbage person and this course was trash. He would pass anyone who used non-binary characters, and gave me a bad mark when I used a violent premise. This is what's wrong with movies these days.

The word I didn't hear is "earned". Good writing has characters earn their shit. For the new breed of writers it's all about rewarding their characters' personality. "You're super awesome so here's your super awesome powers and such!" Infantile is the correct word.

@9:01 I am so glad you included this scene as it is an excellent example of being a good strong commander while still being able to to have a friendship with your subordinate officers. Data simply learnt this from Picard. You can almost see Picard talking instead of Data in this scene.

Thanks so much for articulating effectively, what I have been thinking for so long. I've given up on new movies and most new TV series. Every time I give them a try, doing my best to keep an open mind, I always cringe when the characters start talking to each other, and think: "Who the fuck actually talks like this?" Every time I left the theater, I felt profoundly disappointed by what I just watched. I finally gave up--and that was years ago. There are only a few movies here and there I find are well done (we see them on DVD), and they are rarely the big money makers. I used to think it was just generational--but I'm running in to young people also, who make the same observations. And this goes for not just movies and TV, but for music as well. It's all crap.

I've always liked that scene in Star Trek: The Next Generation between Data and Worf. Data, a non-emotional android, laying down the law to a rather insubordinate crew member in a very professional manner. And Worf, a normally rather temperamental guy, keeping his temper in check when being reprimanded by his superior and admitting their disagreement was his fault. Both apologize and acknowledge that they're still cool and go back to the matter at hand. They had a difficult moment in their professional lives but didn't let that end their personal friendship. A really great scene indeed made even better since it involved my two favorite characters in the series.

Discipline and professionalism! When I was in the real life Navy I was assigned a task. In the heart of getting it done, my Chief took me off that task to do something menial that I didn’t think mattered. I expressed my discontent right then and there in an immature manner in front of my Chief, another Chief in our same shop, and the First Class that happened to also be my mentor. Oh trust me, I received some on the spot mentoring in that moment. We were the only four in the room. So, there was no inappropriate tearing me down in front of my peers or subordinates. There was also no yelling, or immature behavior on the part of that First Class. Nor did either Chief say a thing. It was exactly as the Chain-of-Command is supposed to work in a professional environment. I was informed, in no uncertain terms, that questioning my Chief’s authority or priorities in an immature manner would not be tolerated. If I had a legitimate different idea I could express it, and then be told which one to do. And, I was not treated as a child, therefore, would never behave as one. When he was done, I apologized to the room of people, and specifically to my Chief, before leaving to do as I was told without further complaint. I still abide by that lesson as a civilian because it is how adults behave!

Fantastic series. You are hitting right on the head something my family often talks about. My mom and I are aficionados of old (golden age of Hollywood) movies and have often discussed why modern movies are just worms compared to them. We came to the conclusion that they are: 1)written by young people who sit around tables high on pot eating pizza and have no idea what life is and how it really works and what consequences are for hard-working people throughout life and what happens to them- and 2) They seem to make their movies backward - as in, instead of saying, "Let's create an important idea, plot, storyline, theme that carries through, and write a coherent story that makes sense from A to Z." THEN fleshing out with good production values and supporting cast and acting - they start with, "Let's do some great crazy CGI with ALIENS! And TREES! And ALIEN HEADS EXPLODING! "And we can get Scarlet Johanssen and Kurt Russell! Now, let's write a movie around it with THIS budget and make it RED AND GOLD this time and talk about TRANS people and evil corporations because there was a trans story last week - it's the victim story of the week... and everyone hates corporations we are all socialists, right?" And if that isn't how they do it, it certainly looks like it. And there doesn't seem to be a single adult in the room to say, "This is a juvenile pot party mess" when they deliver it.

Another good example is Tyrion from GoT HBO series. He was a clever and intelligent character in the books and that translated well in the series. Once the source material ended, you could see the decline and degradation of this once smart and clever character.

When Roddenberry created Kirk and the other characters was during NASA's golden age, where the real life astronauts were absolutely cool through any emergency and all the middle aged people had been through WWII and had personally dealt with high danger, high stress scenarios and how to act in a military hierarchy.

Insightful and true. Movies should challenge the young and immature with adult ideas that make them think and grow, intellectually and emotionally - that's what art is. That's how literature and serious film enlighten us. They should not pander to children and the fringe ideological factions of any group.

Imagine what Starfleet Academy must look like in the rotten Kelvin timeline. George Kirk‘s death must have had greater ripple effect than just the loss of one officer‘s life.

As an (old) vet who was in charge of an ICBM for 5 years, I especially appreciate your breakdown of command and responsibility in the military. You are spot on about the realities and eloquent about the modern movie (mis)representation of the same. I used to love watching movies, and can no longer because of the precise reasons you present. I raise a whiskey snifter as a toast to your work

this video was so refreshing to watch. been waiting for someone to point out how childish things have gotten lately, or even just someone to notice it happening at all.

As a writer, I'm saving this video in my special Playlist. Solid critical advice that must be remembered.

I couldn't find the right words or comparison describing the problems that brought the modern movies to what we have now. You have successfully did it. Thank you

I miss the days when Star Trek dealt with Science Fiction concepts. Now it's just a soap with a futuristic setting.

Not just movies, it's everything these days, maturity and thoughtfulness have pretty much disappeared from everyday life.

'...which is fine if your idea of entertainment is eating Play-Doh and farting in the bathtub.....' I laughed at that WAY TOO HARD 🤣.

It's fitting you showed that Army recruiting cartoon. I had a sudden realization watching that as you were making your point... we live in a cartoon world now. Everything is a cartoon of what it used to be. Remember the commercials for "the few, the proud, the Marines!" and "Be all you can be" and "We do more before 8 am than most folks do all day"... Back then it was about encouraging young people to join the military to be all they could be, develop their talents and abilities and learn new skills and advance as far as their determination and talent would allow. Now it's just a cartoon of that... about looking good instead of being good... about talking about honor and duty while doing whatever is convenient or whatever one is ordered to do by the cartoon characters leading the military and the country. The only way you can advance beyond certain levels is to be willing to lie your @ss off and show that you have NO honor because of it, to serve the politicians and their needs and their interpretation of the role you're supposed to play. Our entire society now has devolved to this point, where it's all about LOOKING good without BEING good. And we wonder why our country is collapsing, as well as those foolish enough to follow us...

"They're controlled, rational, and measured; arguing their points effectively and not simply shouting over each other." I don't think it's just movies that have lost this.

For me, hearing this taught me about a little bit more than just movies. I was always dimly aware that something about modern film protagonists was somehow totally insufferable to me, but I couldn't quite place my finger on it. Hearing you put it together so eloquently made me realize not only what was bothering about modern movies, but also part of what was bothering me about myself, and my own social environment. It never occurred to me, until now, that I haven't ever really been shown or told how mature men handle their problems, and at least in part because of that, have never bothered to go out of my way to be a mature man myself. I'm going to be 23 next week. I wish somebody had explained this to me sooner, or I had at least intuited it myself.

It makes perfect sense, what kind of life experience or personal growth can the audience get from a guy with the mind set of a teenager, who never had any life struggle, mommy made his bed and washed dishes for him, or a girl who never had the slightest peril since daddy will change her tires, be her mechanic, handy man, etc. Those kind of whimps will eventually develop whimpy stories.

exceptionally well-put. when the content is catered towards protected kids in bubbles who have never faced hardships and adversaries in their daily traversals, its hard to imagine "money" can be made from thought-provoking, deep, composed and stoically confident characters and writing. back in the days i'd love to hit the movies with the boys for an absolute good time but its been years that ive completely stopped watching movies now. i refer nowadays more to video games and fucking alas: the trend follows in most video games today as well :D that's why i'm still stuck with witcher 3 and red dead redemption 2 when it comes to open world experiences, where everything hits just right on these matters. there are many other games doing it well too, both triple A and indie, but it all just goes to the point that u definitely said the right things about "modern movies" build for "modern audiences".. god i hate the word now

The issue in not writer's being unable to write more mature stories, but instead studios not wanting to fund those types of movies. You can find plenty of books that are being published right now that have the stoic, reserved characters you're talking about. There many capable writers out there, but studios have become more and more focused on profit. They see movies that sacrifice plot and character development for intense action sequences and explosions selling lots of tickets. So they just recreate that first successful movie over and over and over. They aren't willing to take the financial risk with more thought provoking scripts.

Thanks, Drinker, this video hit the mark - far beyond the scope of movies.

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Iv watched wrath of Kahn a hundred times since i was a kid .and those 2 scenes still make bawl like a frickken baby. It just got me again ! Incredibly moving scenes

The tiny little "no" Kirk says as he slumps to the floor after Spock's death in Wrath of Khan still gives me goose bumps. It's so quiet but says absolutely everything.

It amazes me how you have managed to put words on a problem that has lurked in the shadows of my mind when watching modern movies. I have not realized it until now, but the movies the majority enjoy are the result of what a generation of people refusing to grow up find entertaining. Thus this is not limited to a comment on movies, but also encompasses the culture and expectations towards becoming an adult.

I was born in 1982 so didn't even see the wrath of khan until maybe 1987ish. It is still my favorite star trek ever and as far as scifi is concerned it was only beaten by 5th element (fun), interstellar (sad/wonderful), and rogue one (dark and THAT scene). wrath of khan remains the undisputed king in ship on ship combat ever made and really captures the vibe that these are large SHIPS in space.

I consider myself a relatively "old school" Trekkie, and I've enjoyed most of the iterations of the genre, including the most recent movies (Chris Pine, et al.). That being said, I found this to be a wonderful contrasting piece that really highlighted the differences in, for me, a very telling way. Good stuff!

I had noticed that the quality of entertainment had degraded to the point where I generally don't watch a movie unless I'm bored af. This video explained a lot, thank you.

Fun Fact - James Montgomery Doohan (aka Scotty) landed at Juno Beach during the D-Day Landings at Normandy in WW2. He was shot 6 times, but survived, although he lost the middle finger on his right hand. Throughout his acting career he was mostly able to hide the missing digit (refer 6:21) but occasionally this showed up on screen. RIP Lieutenant Doohan.

There are so many, many, many scenes from TNG that I will never forget, as long as I live. The Data/Worf scene was phenomenal. I was excited as Discovery appeared, because I didn't like the new ST Movies, as of the things you mentioned. But obviously there are not so many writes that see this too, every other ST series fails, except for "Lower Decks". I'm very sad because of this. If you take a closer look, you will see (or hear), that in almost no scene there is no music. Every second in Discovery is accompanied with music, while in TNG and other "old" series, this is not the case. Music tends to make a scene more intense, and often this effect creates additional tension, but in the Worf/Data Scene the dialogue alone is the thing, that should create my emotions.

With the limited amount of decent shows on TV, my wife and I finally started watching CSI and CSI:Miami. We're up to season 10 of CSI, which aired in 2010. We just went into an episode where Sara Sidle was stalked and framed by one of the reoccurring villains of the show. All the way until the end, she is keeping her team in the dark, going after the bad guy by herself and putting herself in situations that, at best, gives the bad guy _HUGE_ advantages and, at worst, will land her in jail. All because of childish emotional bullshit. These people are supposed to be a team. They have worked together for up to a decade. And yet, they don't trust their team enough to go straight to them in situations like this, which directly involves the team and the case(s) they are working. I had a REALLY hard time watching it and had a bit of an outburst a couple of times. Yes, I agree, Hollywood (both movies AND TV series) are putting out worse and worse tripe.

As a Hollywood professional, I just wanna say… You’re exactly spot on. I endorse this. Well done.

"Is it nice when characters are smart and control their emotions" -- Yes, and frankly, seeing Kylo Ren throw a fit with his light-saber in that first movie that he was in ... his character couldn't recover from that in my eyes. It was an angry child. And some people will defend that writing by saying that he was a Sith, and so given to anger. Yeah... I guess... but when Vader got pissed, he also killed people, but it didn't seem like he lost his temper, he was just angry and vicious.... but not out of control. Point in fact, at one point in the original trilogy, Luke escaped... and Vader just calmed turned on that cat-walk on the Destroyer and calmly strode off. Obviously he was pissed.... but he didn't have a tantrum.

Very astute observation of the Dune franchise. Even though it has already had a movie adaptation *and* a TV series on the Scifi Channel, it's an excellent showcase that remakes or reboots can still be done well 😊

I really miss the good old dialogue drama movies with good screenplay that you can actually enjoy. A movie where you need to use your nookie for once. Movies like that are so rare. Most of them give you all on the plate where you are sitting on a chair like a mindless robot.

4:25 Damn, I’m not a fan of Star Trek, and I’ve never seen Wrath of Kahn. But that clip got me teary-eyed nonetheless. That’s cinema right there.

When characters are constantly acting emotionally, in my opinion it removes weight from actual emotional scenes. Kirk screaming Khan has so much weight because the situation was enough to break through his military self control and calm. Modern characters seem to be "screaming Khan" at every junction.

And this is why I watch the classics, the same movies I watched growing up. They were written by people who understood how adults spoke to one another, who understood the value of silent moments, people who valued a good story. These same movies, and what they represent, still ring true today. They good when I was a kid, and they're great now, because they're so much better and smarter than anything Hollywood has released in decades.

You're probably my favorite RU-vidr right now- thank you sm for voicing everything I want to say, and teaching me lots of things along the way❤ ur the best, man

C.S. Lewis says the difference is the difference between those obsessed with "acting grown-up," and someone who's grown up properly by integrating the innocent enthusiasm of a child's heart with a grown-up's wisdom and intelligence. There's a difference between "childish" and "child-like" The latter doesn't have to make a big show to prove maturity, since it has fully integrated the best of all one's upbringing. The former always feels it has to make big shows to prove it's "very grown up," and demonstrates, if anything, a stunted growth with the person showing just how childish they are.

I need to thank you personally for eliminating something for me. I am 16 and my grandpa recently died. In all of the big movies now a days you always ALWAYS see big emotional reactions to death. I however didn’t have a big reaction. I just kinda sat down on the floor. Afterward when I was alone I cried in private for a little but it wasn’t like my mom or grandma crying. When you get didn’t scream cry about my dads actual death I thought I was a monster who didn’t care. I hated myself for not being sad in the right kind of way and when you pointed out that the captain didn’t cry but just kinda sat there it hit me that way we all got different ways of being sad and grieving.

This video is more true today than it was a year ago. The writers are on strike and I couldn't care less because the writers and directors aren't doing their jobs and are relying on SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF to make their movies interesting. People go to the movies to be entertained and we sit there thinking about what we just saw and once we leave the theater, instead of having a deep ,insightful, positive discussion, we end up saying how unbelievable and unrealistic that was and we say to ourselves "if I were a writer I could have done a better job instead of RELYING on the SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF ! I should have just waited for it to come out on TV and saved myself all that money!"

The Data/Worf scene is so good. That's how adults deal with problems in a professional environment. It's highly idealized, but that's the point of Star Trek. It shows what people are capable of if they move past primitive emotions and personal interest.

In the past children at play pretended to be adults and they found their way in the world partially because of this type of play, while todays adults pretend they're children and refuse to grow up no matter what.

It's almost as if if Old Trek portrayed its characters as as actual seasoned military officers. Unlike New Trek that has characters that would have been kicked out of boot camp after a week for being unprofessional.

Speaking of writing: I'd love to see a video about your experiences getting published, and part of that, a general how-to for those of us aspiring amateurs (how to secure an agent and/or publisher, editing, publication, etc.)

Thanks for this video. I was totally confused as to what happened to the movie script writing. Makes total sense.

I still remember the Worf-Data dialogue. Wasn't even a teenager back then, but the way they handled their dispute had a lasting impression on me. Was honestly awed how Data and also Worf behaved in that scene. Very, very rare to see this kind of maturity in todays productions.

Wow. Never thought of it that way but you’re spot on. Damn. Great analysis and synopsis of what plagues most movies/shows these days. By/for children indeed.

As someone who served in the United States Navy in the early 90s, the analysis is spot on you would never find that level of childishness backtalk, or anything else on board of a Naval vessel.

Spot on. There's a great explanation of this problem in the book 'The Making of Star Trek', where if memory serves, one of the writers had penned a scene where the Enterprise was about to be hit by a torpedo, and Kirk was supposed to grab Yeoman Rand and hold her tight. Roddenberry apparently read it through and crossed it out because it wasn't believable, explaining that if you were aboard a U.S. Navy cruiser about to take a torpedo, the captain's response wouldn't be to suddenly hug a young, pretty, female petty officer - and if it was, he wouldn't be captain for very long.