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Dragons! They're big, they're scaly, they're legendary! But how deep does the wyrmhole go?
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Комментарии : 11 тыс.   
@michaelscott6022
@michaelscott6022 3 года назад
"My ancestors sent me a lizard?" "Hey, I'm a dragon, _DRA-GON,_ I don't do that tongue thing." *does the tongue thing*
@Karlos1234ify
@Karlos1234ify 3 года назад
Mulan
@Sadeyo1
@Sadeyo1 3 года назад
Right in the childhood. Good stuff.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
*DISHONOR ON YOUR* 🐄
@nimedhel09
@nimedhel09 3 года назад
It's funny. In French, he says "Nous ne parlons pas la même langue" before doing the tongue thing (aka "We don't talk the same language") so there's a nuance that's lost in translation there. The more you know...
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 3 года назад
As AronRa once pointed out, dragons are the only kind of lizard(except snake) who actually do that tongue thing.
@simplysmiley4670
@simplysmiley4670 Год назад
I love how portrayal of dragons turned from "basically a god" into "an oversized huggable reptile"
@dqixsoss7436
@dqixsoss7436 Год назад
As it should be
@jazzratoon
@jazzratoon Год назад
Why not both?
@Leviathansgard
@Leviathansgard Год назад
both. both is good.
@trollman_2345
@trollman_2345 Год назад
​@@jazzratoon Fwench Fwy from the artist Chikn Nugget. Nuff said.
@DrDolan2000
@DrDolan2000 Год назад
Huggable, reptilian girlfriend who gives head scratches and kisses I listen to too much asmr
@icel8828
@icel8828 Год назад
The real reason dragons are so popular globally is because dragons are cool
@DavidGonzalez-zl3dz
@DavidGonzalez-zl3dz Год назад
Honestly think that might be it
@xynged
@xynged Год назад
or on average people have more subconscious scaley tendencies than furry
@icel8828
@icel8828 Год назад
@@xynged fluffy dragons exist!
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 Год назад
@@icel8828 Get that idea out of my head
@icel8828
@icel8828 Год назад
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 no. I will put it there
@Mance1680
@Mance1680 2 года назад
Dragon: *exists* Storm God: "Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!"
@emanuelrojas2
@emanuelrojas2 8 месяцев назад
Indeed it was.
@myartjoruney3523
@myartjoruney3523 2 месяца назад
Is this an Aurora reference?
@lepidusstupidius2956
@lepidusstupidius2956 Месяц назад
@@myartjoruney3523 It's a Kung-fu panda reference
@gagamer7251
@gagamer7251 27 дней назад
Odin, sighing: Ugh... fine. Roll initiative... again...
@Epicmonk117
@Epicmonk117 3 года назад
*Ancient Mythology:* _Themes of storm gods killing dragons_ *Me:* Is that why dragons in _Dark Souls_ are weak to lightning damage?
@tank19768
@tank19768 3 года назад
Sort of; Gwyn is a pretty explicit parallel to Zeus and a lot of Dark Souls 1 is steeped in Greek/Norse mythology.
@Epicmonk117
@Epicmonk117 3 года назад
@@tank19768 I can see the Gwyn's connection to Zeus and Nito's connection to Hades, but I'm not seeing any other parallels. Could you please elaborate?
@Prosauropodslovecake
@Prosauropodslovecake 3 года назад
Ooh... Robert Baratheon was the lord of the Stormlands..... And he killed the dragon kings!
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon 3 года назад
@@Epicmonk117 I could see Gwyn and the other founders of the age of fire being a parallel to the Olympians usurping control from the Titans. Gwyndolin's association with moonlight, femininity, and archery also gives off Artemis vibes.
@tank19768
@tank19768 3 года назад
@@Epicmonk117 If we're talking general parallels between Dark Souls and other mythologies, there's obviously the creation myth, which has the gods overthrowing the dragons to bring about a new world order, similarly to the Greek gods overthrowing the titans. There's the world tree from Norse, as the world of Dark Souls lies atop an archtree as seen when descending through the Great Hollow to Ash Lake (notice how the lake extends all around despite being far below ground). The titanite slab is engraved with 100% legible and translatable runes. Anor Londo, being a city of gods on top of a mountain has parallels to Mount Olympus. There's the primordial serpents, which are obviously involved in a lot of mythologies. There's the balder knights, which while bearing no explicit parallels to Baldur, is a pretty obvious reference. I'm sure there are others, but these are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
@lguffee4930
@lguffee4930 3 года назад
Dragons: *Exist* Storm Gods: So anyways, I started blasting-
@theshuman100
@theshuman100 3 года назад
shame we never got a deep dive into the storm spirit trope 😔
@bc7282
@bc7282 3 года назад
L Guffee dragons are evil super rich people, who throughout history would reign terror on the poor. Just think of gangsters who made it as big as could be. After a few generations, power corrupts, they sit on gold. Hydra is their organisations, when you cut off the head, another arises. What is more likely, real dragons and mythical creatures, or it's symbolic of reality from people who couldn't write, but would draw images to pass on information. Propaganda is real.
@Valaame
@Valaame 3 года назад
An explaination for that would actually be; indo-europeans. Those guys had a HUGE worship of the dragon as both a god and a monster symbolizing war and violence. That's why, with some variations, a lot of the places they went to ended up having some kind of dragon in their mythos. That would actually explain the "defeated by a storm god". That part had to be in the original indo-european myth. That's of course excluding the Mesoamerican and autralian dragons, which were simply a serpent worship mixed with birds/rainbow. So, dragon-coincidence? I think (mostly) not!
@theshuman100
@theshuman100 3 года назад
@@Valaame so what youre saying is, colonisation
@hexwolfi
@hexwolfi 3 года назад
@@Valaame That's why Susanoo slaying the serpent Yamato-no-Orochi is now believed to be Indo-European in origin as well, probably introduced to Japan from India with the arrival of Buddhism. It's amazing how that myth managed to find itself spread all the way from Scandinavia to Japan!
@Dexuz
@Dexuz Год назад
I love how Fire Emblem essentially uses all possible dragon tropes and roles. Dragon hero? Check Dragon villain? Check Divine dragon? Check Demonic dragon? Check Apocalyptic dragon? Check Nuisance dragon? Check Human-like dragon? Check Animalistic dragon? Check Dragon-shifter? Check Dragon jewelry? Check Dragon riding? Check Dragon banging?... C-check
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 10 месяцев назад
Dragon Grandma/ Check.
@phoenixfire1074
@phoenixfire1074 10 месяцев назад
I honestly would like to know more about them. The only Fire Emblem dragon I really know anything about is Corrin
@siph0r154
@siph0r154 9 месяцев назад
​​@@phoenixfire1074 It will be very interesting for you to then go and play the other games in this fantastic(al) series. I will give you some guidance. If you want a dragon as a villain, play a fire emblem game. Like, any. Even Corrin opposes one in their own game xD That kinda coincides with the apocalyptic thing. Rideable dragons also come into play fairly often. There are Unit-, classes that ride what FE calls Wyverns. Which are basically the animalistic and tamable kind. There are people in the FE-Universe who can transform into Dragons by the use of a special object called a Dragonstone. In FE-Lore they are called Manakete and technically Corrin is one of those. So the shifters and humanoids are covered as well as the Jewelry. Some FE-Stories are about a clash of Gods. Usually represented as Dragons. So we have the Divine Good as well as evil. And when it comes to the last one.... Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates allow you to establish romances between a variety of characters and units with a degree of freedom. Those pairing then can even have children. In Awakening one of those is a Manakete called Nowi. I will let you Google her yourself to figure out why OP was a bit... Uncomfortable about that 😅
@damianiscringe1082
@damianiscringe1082 9 месяцев назад
Dragon hero: Corrin Dragon villian: like half the franchise's main villians Divine dragon: Alear Demonic dragon: Sombron Apocalyptic dragon: the fire dragons from fe7 and medius from fe11 Nuisance dragons: alot of them Human like dragon: tiki, Fae, myrrh, ninian and Nils Animalistic dragon: maneketes Dragon shifter: maneketes Dragon riding: wyvern riders Dragon banging: eliwood and ninian
@MariOmor1
@MariOmor1 9 месяцев назад
Getting pushed down the stairs? Check
@ikariyabiollante867
@ikariyabiollante867 Год назад
Seeing as dragons can range from nigh-omniscient to mindless, can appear in a practically uncountable number of ways, and the consistent through-line of their portrayals is that they're incredibly powerful, I'm putting forth the thesis that dragons are Lovecraftian eldritch beings that decided to look more fashionable at the cost of not being able to melt someone's frontal lobe just by existing
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody Год назад
How is that a cost, exactly?
@koboldcrusader
@koboldcrusader Год назад
@@StarshadowMelody listen sometimes people can be really annoying to the point where instant remote lobotomies can be a boon okay
@crypticmedicine
@crypticmedicine Год назад
"I am limitless, fathomless, undefinable. I strike fear into the hearts of my enemies and defy categorization. But.... can I also be _sexy?_ "
@lawrence8871
@lawrence8871 Год назад
They sometimes do that anyway! Source: Fablehaven series by Brandon Mull
@Awesomeflame16
@Awesomeflame16 Год назад
@@crypticmedicine Gotta get them ladies
@JoCat
@JoCat 3 года назад
it's a crime they're extinct
@howeyyadoing9070
@howeyyadoing9070 3 года назад
We’ve only got the Komodo sub-species now
@goldenexperiencerequiem6515
@goldenexperiencerequiem6515 3 года назад
Oof
@theonetruedonut
@theonetruedonut 3 года назад
Ssssssh we added them to fiction so people would forget they ever existed
@blitzwulf6655
@blitzwulf6655 3 года назад
I see Jocat is on the same youtube cycle as me right now.
@aaronh-d2444
@aaronh-d2444 3 года назад
This is why they are never the protagonist
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 3 года назад
I think it’s cool that basically every culture saw a reptile and decided “what if it could fly and do magic that’d be sick as hell”
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 года назад
I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear meme
@porter5224
@porter5224 3 года назад
@@AxxLAfriku your videos are bad
@yeethittter1285
@yeethittter1285 3 года назад
@@AxxLAfriku your videos are bad
@illegalmemedealer3549
@illegalmemedealer3549 3 года назад
AxxL delete your channel
@yeethittter1285
@yeethittter1285 3 года назад
@@illegalmemedealer3549 okay there's no need for that
@TheMormonSorceress
@TheMormonSorceress Год назад
I always thought gold was a dragon's equivalent to twigs and sticks to make comfortable beds for them like how twigs and sticks are to birds.
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 Год назад
It is. Gold is a very soft metal so it makes sense that dragons, who hoard gold to begin with, also use it for a bed. This gives them a comfy mattress and protects against thieves
@proto-type3201
@proto-type3201 10 месяцев назад
​@@Cara-39yeah,the fact that it's valuable to humans is just a coincidence
@user-nf3kz9ee2n
@user-nf3kz9ee2n Год назад
In Korean folklore, there are 'near-dragon' entities called 'Imugi's. When a serpent lives for a hundred years, it becomes an imugi, which has the ability to bring storms and waves. An imugi must survive another thousand years and earn the 'Yeouiju' and ascend to become a dragon without any mortals watching it. Most Imugis are depicted as nice and helpful, but there are some 'evil' imugis in korean folklore. For example, an imugi lived for 1000 years and found the Yeouiju and when it was finally ascending to the sky, a mortal saw it ascending (which makes him turn back to an imugi), and it obviously became mad and killed the mortal. The 'evil turned' imugis become monsters called 'Gangcheori's and cause drought and fire (kinda similar to the flame breathing dragons) Imugis that succeed in ascending become dragons and become immortal.
@n1thecaptain965
@n1thecaptain965 7 месяцев назад
Honestly I'm not sure that's entirely evil, if I had to wait 1000 years to become a dragon and then had start all over again last second just because some guy couldn't look the other way, I'd be extremely pissed off as well
@thek2despot426
@thek2despot426 Месяц назад
Bruh, I know this from the movie Dragon Wars.
@olegsbalaclava1051
@olegsbalaclava1051 3 года назад
Someone: "Big lizard that probably flies." People all over the world all throughout history: " *YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO* "
@frankspick7544
@frankspick7544 3 года назад
there not lizards they dont do the tounge thing
@Ribbons0121R121
@Ribbons0121R121 3 года назад
oop
@evagriusponticus4080
@evagriusponticus4080 3 года назад
Japan: Hear me out here me out What if the lizard couldn't fly was even bigger and nigh indestructable
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 3 года назад
@@evagriusponticus4080 Fun fact: Godzilla (aka Cthulhu aka Kraken aka Leviathan aka Kagutsuchi) straight fulfil definition of a dragon. Quetzalcoatlus northropi, so actual big (33ft/10m) lizard what did fly, do not.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 3 года назад
​@Waffie The Dweeb A elemental deity. Word dragon originated from bible where it is used in Latin version of bible as title of Satan as the Serpent. But later it become used to describe broad category of wild elemental deities and overpowered monsters such as Lindworm or Wyvern. Here it is worth to mention that most famous and most stereotypical (gold hording) dragon is Fafnir who actually is a dwarf, who in Nordic mythologies were also a deities (earth elementals specifically). Being a deity is in fact most constant trait even in many cases overshadowing snake part. For example in Journey to the West white dragon Bai Longma spend way more time as a horse and later human then actual serpent. Anyway, even if most elemental deities are serpentine some also appear as birds (Phoenix, Suzaku, Rok, Geruda, Ziz, etc) or other types of beasts (like Behemot, Byakko, etc), also a "sacred steeds" (Unicorns, Griffins, Kirins, Burak, etc) and of course human. In fact it is quite possible that smith/knight defeating dragon in legend dating to Proto-Indo-Eurpeans as storm deity was a dragon himself.
@bulldowozer5858
@bulldowozer5858 3 года назад
"I'm punk, so I must rebel" "I'm asian, so I must like math" "I dye my hair crazy colors, so I must be looking for attention" *"I'm a dragon, so I must be defeated by a storm-god"*
@michaelzheng5250
@michaelzheng5250 3 года назад
Chinese dragons: But I *am* a storm god
@bulldowozer5858
@bulldowozer5858 3 года назад
@@michaelzheng5250 * Existential crisis intensifies *
@neptunnae
@neptunnae 3 года назад
Michael Zheng can’t trust anyone not even yourself
@friend_trilobot
@friend_trilobot 3 года назад
Dying 🤣
@Aveilas11
@Aveilas11 3 года назад
@@michaelzheng5250 Lots of Chinese dragons get wrecked by other dragons because of family drama so that tracks XD
@Mech299
@Mech299 8 месяцев назад
Dragons as cats: *Stares at viking leader, unblinking for a solid minute, his paw outstretched, watching the viking leader keep saying "Noooooo! Don't you do it!" as the Dragon mimes knocking the lower-ranked viking off a cliff*
@leonader9465
@leonader9465 8 месяцев назад
A spider/insect-based dragon is actually a sick concept.
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 месяцев назад
No! Please god no! Noooooooooooooo!
@gex6692
@gex6692 3 месяца назад
Literally the lost continent in wings of fire
@andrewmalinowski6673
@andrewmalinowski6673 3 месяца назад
Tell that to someone with either arachnophobia or any insect phobia like mellisophobia or apipophobia
@kurage_medusa
@kurage_medusa 2 месяца назад
Considering how cool dragon_flies_ are, I've had the idea of dragonfly-inspired dragons
@Eldrisaur
@Eldrisaur 3 года назад
Dragons: *Exist* Storm gods: and I took that personally
@freyathewanderer6359
@freyathewanderer6359 3 года назад
The idea of dragons could have arisen because ancient people found dinosaur fossils and, not knowing what dinosaurs were, [ahem!] imagined dragons.
@joshuakirkham9224
@joshuakirkham9224 3 года назад
Well if you think about it, dragons are ultimate, powerhouse, magical, juggernauts. So it’d kinda make sense to throw them up against the more powerful gods in any given story. Said gods are usually storm gods in some capacity. ...I think... idk
@foxyboy-dn9yj
@foxyboy-dn9yj 3 года назад
@@joshuakirkham9224*cough* thunder= big roar of flying monster
@redpikachu3754
@redpikachu3754 3 года назад
Is THIS the reason the dragons in Dark Souls are weak to lightning!?
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 года назад
@@joshuakirkham9224 Either storm, sky, and/or sun are the most common top-power of most myths, and all three are usually at least high-tier.
@KitKat-sv9qp
@KitKat-sv9qp 3 года назад
Ok but using a tiny DRAGON as a weapon is the most metal thing ever, and of course it came from the people that did blood sacrifices
@EndanDrachon
@EndanDrachon 3 года назад
Pretty much every old Mesoamerican culture had human sacrifice. The Aztecs were just particularly...enthusiastic about it.
@veggiesblowup8785
@veggiesblowup8785 3 года назад
A* people that did blood sacrifices. FTFY
@theoveranalyzingcinephile983
@theoveranalyzingcinephile983 3 года назад
Well Valyrians only tamed dragons through blood magic and blood sacrifices...
@toprak3479
@toprak3479 3 года назад
@@veggiesblowup8785 Not sure if "a people" is grammatically correct but yeah it _is_ hisorically correct.
@veggiesblowup8785
@veggiesblowup8785 3 года назад
@@toprak3479 'A people' is grammatically correct, as it refers to a single body in collective. Upon further thought, though, it's probably more historically accurate to say "some number of peoples", 'cause mesoamerica had as much diversity of people groups as anywhere else.
@Davisnacho
@Davisnacho 2 года назад
There is one example of dragon riding in folklore. The Romanian concept of the Scholomance was a black magic school taught by the devil. One of the graduates would be chosen to become Weathermaster, riding a dragon to control the weather. This idea was adapted into the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, minus the devil and the dragon. R.I.P. Weather Dragon. Also storms and dragons...again.
@user-ng4xe5rf8n
@user-ng4xe5rf8n 6 месяцев назад
In Asia too. In Taoism there is an entire category of deities that ride dragons, either on their backs or with chariots. Partly because Asian dragons are to animals what dosas are to humans: who are enlightened in the Tao and ascended. We even have 용마, which is a literal horse-dragon.
@phryg2035
@phryg2035 3 месяца назад
@@user-ng4xe5rf8n how are dosas related to humans
@user-ng4xe5rf8n
@user-ng4xe5rf8n 3 месяца назад
@@phryg2035 Dosa is an ascended human through understanding The Way. There is no dosa that is not human. edit: typo
@lucatan6985
@lucatan6985 Год назад
I love how depending on how you analyze the game's "ideas", the Enderdragon fits Tolkiens description
@5t3phan
@5t3phan 6 месяцев назад
I hate you for putting this in my head, you genius.
@ruffedgrouse2711
@ruffedgrouse2711 4 месяца назад
Could you elaborate?
@NekogamiKun127
@NekogamiKun127 3 года назад
*Red:* "He's a dragon! He's a dragon! You're a dragon! I'm a dragon! Are there any other dragons I should know about?" *Toothless:* "Meow"
@RamBam3000
@RamBam3000 3 года назад
Glaurung would like a word. Ancalagon would too, only he can’t talk. And letting Glauring talk to you is a really bad idea; just ask Turin, or Nienor. *Especially if you’re unwise enough to look into Glaurung’s eyes are the same time.*
@trulyredacted9161
@trulyredacted9161 3 года назад
Oof
@PhoenyxRysing
@PhoenyxRysing 3 года назад
Firedrake from 'Dragon Rider' and all the dragons from 'The Fire Within', maybe?
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 3 года назад
Dragon Hunters stretched the definition of Dragon to its absolute breaking point. I mean, you had the Ramadur and the "Draft Dragon" (that pulled an airship), both ofwhich fit the european description, but also more outlandish stuff like Hector, who was a fuzzy dog-ferret thing with roughly human intelligence, the Vanikoro, which was just a huge Chameleon, and the Aartog which was a huge Spider Creature that could shapeshift into human form, and had a desire to live *as* a human as opposed to being a "Dragon" (It still got killed at the end after it tried to take the place of one of the Protagonists), among other species. I think in that world, "Dragon" seems to be a catch-all term for any monster that isn't more or less a normal animal, like sheep or pigs, though domesticated Dragons, like Hector, also existed which muddles the whole thing somewhat...
@trulyredacted9161
@trulyredacted9161 3 года назад
Yis
@gergory97
@gergory97 3 года назад
11:15 By Tolkien's definition, Toothless would absolutely be considered a dragon. 1) Mechanics: I don't know, is the dragon important to the plot of How to Train Your Dragon? 2) Ideas: Toothless helps to convey a lot of the themes of friendship, misunderstanding, and other things I'm too sleep-deprived to come up with.
@Chaossoul87
@Chaossoul87 3 года назад
Definitely underrated comment. I agree.
@willphoenix5464
@willphoenix5464 3 года назад
Awesome
@lemmetalkaboutthis
@lemmetalkaboutthis 3 года назад
He is definitely important, First of, in many ways he is kind of a mirror to Hiccup: -One of a kind and an outcast -far smarter than their peers -unwilling to submit to a hierarchy kept in place through force -missing a limb -leaders of their respective sides (by birth, but both had to prove themself and earn their positions by gaining the necessary respect of their peers) And only a dragon with the necessary intellect and understanding of what it means to be an outsider would have given Hiccup the chance he needed to discover the true nature of dragons and bring about the changes he did, And Hiccup and Toothless both recognised themself in the other - the story would likely not have worked out with any normal dragon
@galning2768
@galning2768 2 года назад
@@lemmetalkaboutthis I may be wrong but I think it’s ironic like hmmmmmm I wonder is the *dragon* important to how to train your *dragon*
@lemmetalkaboutthis
@lemmetalkaboutthis 2 года назад
@@galning2768 I mean, the movies sprang from children's books, it can probably be excused for being a little on the nose lol tl;dr: it's about Toothless counting as a "real dragon" by _Tolkien's_ standards, which include more than just the physical shape - WE might see all the dragons as "real dragons", but Toothless might be the only one of them that Tolkien would ALSO consider a "real dragon" Okay, long explanation: there's a huge difference between movies and the books - in the books, dragons are more... kinda like livestock? A mix between pets, hunting dogs, and working-animals. But they also have a language, one that humans can speak, even if it's forbidden - the movie made them a dangerous force to be reckoned with, but also much more animalistic; smart animals, DAMN smart animals, but still animals If you went by "how to train your dragon", it sounds more like a guide for training a *pet* rather than a story about befriending an intelligent being that's on the opposite site of a generations-long war But even then, Toothless is still quite exceptional - with him and Hiccup it's more like we have two people that are learning to work with each other, while with the other dragons, it really feels a lot more like training an animal with food and commands and so-on I can see Toothless understanding a lot more from the human language than the other dragons - hell, he expresses exasperation, kind of sarcasm at times, and plays along in fake-arguments, he actively follows the human's conversations, etc.... and Hiccup talks to him like just another person a lot more than we see the other riders - they talk to their dragons a lot more like pets, or well-trained dogs, not expecting a reply or full understanding Hiccup also doesn't talk to other dragons like he does to Toothless, likely knowing that there is a pretty big gap in how well he will be understood So, like I said earlier, Toothless would count as "a REAL dragon" by Tolkien's standards, not because of what he physically is, but because he was necessary for the story itself- it wouldn't have worked with a Nadder or a Monstrous Nightmare, which WE also classify as dragons, but with Tolkien's view on the subject might not count as "real" dragons
@wandererjiyuren661
@wandererjiyuren661 Год назад
I think anatomically Dragons are by way of their disparate nature a taxonomic Order, rather than family or a genus or one specific species. Because of this any creature that can reasonably be recognized as a dragon can be included in that order, because it shares some nebulous characteristics with all the rest of dragondom, even if not every dragon shares ANY of those characteristics. In fact I think the only characteristic I've never seen missing from dragons is that they have scales are very similar to reptiles.
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Год назад
Idea based on your comment: 6th group of vertebrates?
@lucyandecember2843
@lucyandecember2843 Год назад
@@yusheitslv100 definitly lol
@nomdeplume9590
@nomdeplume9590 Год назад
@@yusheitslv100 Nah, because dragons DEFINITELY seem like they're in the clade Sauropsida, considering they're generally reptilian, and although some have wings, birds are Sauropsida too; the Reptilia class contains all sauropsids other than birds, so dragons fit right in there. As the original commentor said, they fit as an order, although I *guess* I can see making them a different class, considering that birds and reptiles are both sauropsids but are in different classes.
@mollycanwell9924
@mollycanwell9924 Год назад
haha, have i got news for you...(go read the dragonriders of pern books and marvel at the dragons' "soft hides," and wonder (as i do) how these creatures can still be so clearly and obviously dragons despite missing the dragon's only consistent defining feature)
@philipsheehan3754
@philipsheehan3754 Год назад
May I offer you Seath the Scaleless (I know I’m cheating as he is literally just a regular dragon with a genetic defect but still)
@grayfox9191
@grayfox9191 2 года назад
I find the concept of having a tiny dragon as a weapon hilarious. Like when a character's in a pinch and pulls out a pocket dragon or maybe there's a standoff with a bunch of characters in a circle pointing tiny dragons at each other. XD
@petertaylor4980
@petertaylor4980 Год назад
Happens in some Discworld books.
@themostbritishpersonalive868
Dragons don’t kill people, people with dragons kill people
@holier_than_thou0102
@holier_than_thou0102 3 года назад
Any dragon: *breathes* A storm god within fifty feet of the dragon, rolling up their sleeves: alright, that’s it-
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 3 года назад
Thor 4 plot confirmed
@holier_than_thou0102
@holier_than_thou0102 3 года назад
Irodoku Puzzle oh my god he even fought a dragon in Thor Ragnarok wtf
@kziila0244
@kziila0244 3 года назад
Mac N’Cheese ...You’re right.
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 3 года назад
@@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q Maybe it's Susanoo posing as Thor?
@taylorgoldman130
@taylorgoldman130 3 года назад
You just yee’d your last haw
@georgeaylard1580
@georgeaylard1580 3 года назад
Uncle Iroh: Ancient, powerful, breathes fire, central to the plot, central to the theme of the story. Even beyond the name Iroh fits the idea of a dragon completely. Love it. You even get a subversion of expectations as you’d expect a general of the bad guys to be a power-hungry maniac but he’s a kind, philosophising, old man who loves his Jasmine tea and Pai Sho. One of my favourite characters ever.
@demolisherman1763
@demolisherman1763 3 года назад
He’s even called a dragon
@Midorikonokami
@Midorikonokami 3 года назад
A kind philosophical old man who nonetheless _kicks major ass_ too
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 3 года назад
He invented lightning redirection for that inevitable showdown with a storm god.
@loganbabb8509
@loganbabb8509 3 года назад
IROH-NIC isn't it?
@tuesdaywithanh
@tuesdaywithanh 3 года назад
He sounds more like a Chinese dragon than European dragon to me
@amer6706
@amer6706 Год назад
The How To Train Your Dragon book dragons are cool, because they have the tiny harmless dragons but also dragons the size of mountainsides that see past, present, and future. And dragons of all different species. Some hardly look like our idea of dragons except typically having an isocelene on their tail, wings, and four legs. They range from intelligence beyond humans to animal stupidity, and most of them speak Dragonese. Also, the exploration of their “selfish, malevolent behavior” is very interesting.
@jplus1054
@jplus1054 10 месяцев назад
Exactly, and this is why I never liked the movies - I was a hardcore How to Train Your Dragon BOOK fan. The movies basically just stole the character names then wrote a completely different story that spit on everything that made the books good - that being the unique take and perspective on dragons as a species and their interactions with humans.
@Attaxalotl
@Attaxalotl 8 месяцев назад
@@jplus1054 I liked the movies. They're a bad _adaptation,_ but they're good if you take them as two separate things.
@funnyvideoguy3216
@funnyvideoguy3216 Год назад
I always love it when dragons are depicted as like actual animals, rather than just beings of power. It kinda makes them feel more grounded into the world and more interesting
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 Год назад
I like it when there are both intelligent and animal-like dragons in the same world. It sets up so many potential storytelling opportunities about the world and its lore, on top of any story's revolving around a central set of characters who need to interact with dragons.
@cheepmovprod
@cheepmovprod Год назад
That’s how I depict all monsters. The Realm of Dragons is a project on my DevaintArt where I treat dragons like real creatures, give them scientific names, and try to classify them as best I can.
@Dexuz
@Dexuz Год назад
@@soulcyclone360 Fire Emblem! (The actual stories being good is up to debate)
@soulcyclone360
@soulcyclone360 Год назад
@@Dexuz is there a particular game I should start with? Or should I just pick up the first one I see.
@Dexuz
@Dexuz Год назад
​@@soulcyclone360 I'd say Awakening is best for a first-player experience, maybe Fates too.
@iamsad1966
@iamsad1966 3 года назад
My forever favorite dragon subversion is “the Dragun has a gun.”
@TheRhuen
@TheRhuen 3 года назад
How about being the dragon is a gun, lots of guns. See Digimon , Gundramon
@fangabxyfangabxy8563
@fangabxyfangabxy8563 3 года назад
“No girls! Girls gotta die!” -that one video
@iksskan9147
@iksskan9147 3 года назад
@@TheRhuen not close to Enter the Gungeon Dragun who throws knives which shoot bullets
@JohnDoe-sx6iw
@JohnDoe-sx6iw 3 года назад
What about the "Dragon his feet" one?
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 3 года назад
Gungeons and Draguns
@lv26Phoenix
@lv26Phoenix 3 года назад
Mythologies all around the world: "Storm God vs Dragon" Dark Souls 3: "But what if Storm God and Dragon vs you?"
@eertikrux666
@eertikrux666 3 года назад
Infographic show: WRITE THAT DOWN
@jthompson7024
@jthompson7024 3 года назад
If we're being really technical it was a war god and a storm dragon (drake) but either way they whooped my ass several times before I beat them
@timelordacaelus5959
@timelordacaelus5959 3 года назад
Who says I'M not a dragon too? Dark Souls gives you that option in all 3 games, and I ALWAYS take it!
@Archon3960
@Archon3960 3 года назад
Meanwhile, in One Piece... Kaidou : *"I AM THE STORM DRAGON!!"*
@zack8596
@zack8596 3 года назад
More like storm god, dragon and camera vs you.
@RoonMian
@RoonMian 2 года назад
You forgot one of the most well known dragons, the one from Revelation: "Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth."
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 10 месяцев назад
I thought she was going to mention that one. Which reminds me, I've the word Dragon appeared a lot more in the original King James Version. It has since been replaced by other animals, namely the jackal. It's was likely referring to dinosaurs, as it is believed that many tales of dragons came from dinosaur bones.
@Vanity0666
@Vanity0666 7 месяцев назад
My personal favorite tidbit about Satan in his seven headed serpent form is that japan was like "Yamata-no-orochi has eight heads lol" and the greeks were like "Hydra has nine heads lol"
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 Год назад
I think the reason people like trying to taxonomize dragons, and magical creatures in general, is because it's just an interesting thought experiment. What would these creatures be like if they actually existed? What would they look like? Where would they live? What would they eat? For me, at least, it just makes the fantasy feel so much more real.
@leobastian_
@leobastian_ Год назад
yeah. its not that helpful for trope analysis, but its incredibly helpful for worldbuiliding or just enjoying media on a deeper level
@5t3phan
@5t3phan 6 месяцев назад
I just do it because I am weirdly desperate to be thorough in my worldbuilding, lol
@VegitoBlue941
@VegitoBlue941 3 года назад
"Call your usually human-shaped bad guy a dragon" Me: King Dragon sends his regard
@leomoreno7369
@leomoreno7369 2 года назад
Archibald, NO!
@ankerhedemand5918
@ankerhedemand5918 2 года назад
@@leomoreno7369 I hope all of us can be the best of chums, and nothing will ever change that.
@ametsunami4070
@ametsunami4070 2 года назад
Well, this journey’s only just beGUN
@cappertilge8916
@cappertilge8916 2 года назад
If only my little brother Gunther could see me now
@spaghettboy2173
@spaghettboy2173 2 года назад
@@cappertilge8916 Guys I’m right here. I think I have dialogue for this
@ysgramorssoupspoon2261
@ysgramorssoupspoon2261 3 года назад
"My cousin is out fighting Dragons and what do I get? Guard duty." -Whiterun Guard while walking away from a fresh Dragon corpse
@cereskerrigan
@cereskerrigan 3 года назад
“I was an adventurer like you, till I took an arrow to the knee.” - Whiterun Guard before being crushed by a dragon.
@RequiemPoete
@RequiemPoete 3 года назад
"Someone stole your sweet roll?" To you after murdering the dragon.
@kingnothing8570
@kingnothing8570 3 года назад
@@RequiemPoete you know come to think of it guards really are just assholes fucking with you aren't they.
@Bird_Dog00
@Bird_Dog00 3 года назад
Pesant: "Excuse me, Lord Player Character Sir. Please. There are those mudcraps that occupy the river banks and keep me from catching fish to feed my hungry children. Please Sir, help me and slay those mudcraps. I'm just a simple pesant and wouldn't stand a chance agai..." *dragon appears in the village Pesant: "Excuse me Sir..." *Pesant draws iron dagger and charges the dragon: "Leeeroy Jeeenkiiiiins!!!"
@kevinconrad6156
@kevinconrad6156 3 года назад
@@kingnothing8570 They are police after all.
@Sam_596
@Sam_596 2 года назад
"Is Smaug in this one?" That's the cutest thing I've ever seen
@anominon
@anominon Год назад
I like to think that dragons don't hoard just because they like shinies, more likely they've just always been employed to guard treasure... BUUUT I also like the idea that they actually gather a hoard like a bower bird's bower, something made to attract a mate or something, that could be an interesting spin on the old hoarding thing.
@starblade8719
@starblade8719 3 года назад
When king dragon doesn’t send his regards:
@mariuchiha4664
@mariuchiha4664 3 года назад
Lysanderoth you were behind all this!
@adrielcruz2736
@adrielcruz2736 3 года назад
Mari Uchiha “if think that was a nice shot....”
@lablimpet
@lablimpet 3 года назад
This journey has only just beGUN
@c3eo125
@c3eo125 3 года назад
@@mariuchiha4664 Yes it was I! My machinations lay undetected for years
@kevinboyle3104
@kevinboyle3104 3 года назад
C3EO for I am a master of deception.
@northstar6920
@northstar6920 3 года назад
Norse: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Egyptian: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Japanese: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Mesopotamian: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Greek: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Coincidence, I THINK NOT!
@grogmadman522
@grogmadman522 3 года назад
What if it was an actual real event every mythology had it's own version of ?
@beeaggro2593
@beeaggro2593 3 года назад
The dinosaurs going extinct
@achintyanaithani889
@achintyanaithani889 3 года назад
Same for Vedic myth. Vritra gang, upvote this!
@rambard5599
@rambard5599 3 года назад
@@grogmadman522 I'd say it's more likely it has something to do with the common culture and religion all these cultures and religions came from.
@nian3262
@nian3262 3 года назад
Plot twist it was the same stormgod all along!!!
@18wolfspirit
@18wolfspirit Год назад
Dragons are one of my favorite mythical beasts. Their colored scales, how they can spew breath of different elements, their claws and fangs. I would love to have one as a pet or friend.
@LemonFlump
@LemonFlump 2 года назад
So I’ve been reading the Wheel of Time lately. This video really makes me step back and look at the main character a bit differently. The Dragon Reborn as he’s called echoes all the tropes of a physical dragon without being a scaled winged scary lizard. Just the name of him can inspire that awe that dragons have had for millennia. Fascinating, thank you
@KyleRayner12
@KyleRayner12 3 года назад
Imagine an alternate reality wherein dragons aren't a thing, but there's some nonspecific, pan-mythological entity that's basically a magic spider.
@hogndog2339
@hogndog2339 3 года назад
Spiders with wings, sea spiders, fire-breathing spiders, gold-loving spiders, venomous spid - wait
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 года назад
@@hogndog2339 on the spiders with wings: there are spiders that can fly in real life, using a process called ballooning. It's awesome. I had one float in front of my face while I was on a hike. It's more floating on the wind. And I also find this really cool and want to ramble about it.
@KyleRayner12
@KyleRayner12 3 года назад
@@epauletshark3793 What species do that? (My only experience with weird spiders is with social spiders, which raise their young instead of eating them.)
@masterskellington92
@masterskellington92 3 года назад
In all reality, the ultimate creature is crabs and lobsters. They always find a way back.
@mrcakeday1439
@mrcakeday1439 2 года назад
@@epauletshark3793 Oh, I hate everything you just describe. I just had a nightmare today where a spider nest fell on me. I’m still traumatized.
@rubyamateurtactician4354
@rubyamateurtactician4354 3 года назад
" But this begs the question: why dragons?" * surprised sputtering * WHY NOT DRAGONS?!?!?!?
@shadenfroda273
@shadenfroda273 3 года назад
But I can do you one better why are dragons
@tygerlyn1123
@tygerlyn1123 3 года назад
But...but...BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?
@phantomh2625
@phantomh2625 3 года назад
@@shadenfroda273 well that's great and all but have anyone asked how are the dragons?
@toprak3479
@toprak3479 3 года назад
Title: Trope Talk: Dragons Everybody: *WHAT ABOUT THEM?*
@tybuss6211
@tybuss6211 3 года назад
Exactly why not dragons
@hyzmarie
@hyzmarie Год назад
I’d say dragon taxonomy makes sense within one universe (like how in WoF SilkWings and hivewings are related and the split can be traced back to one event) but once you start to get more general than that it gets impossible
@cydneyquinn9936
@cydneyquinn9936 2 года назад
I LOVE how you used an image from the original how to train your dragon series by Cressida Cowell for the cute/tiny dragons. That series was my childhood and still an absolute favorite ;)
@worthlesshuman5041
@worthlesshuman5041 3 года назад
Red: "Dragon as noble steed is historically unprecedented" The Horse from Journey to the West: "Am I a joke to you?"
@coolgreenbug7551
@coolgreenbug7551 3 года назад
but you never get to ride him as a dragon, he just goes into lame horse mode. Thats like saying Bumblebee is a giant anime mech because he is a giant robot and people drive him. there both true but not at the same time and thats key
@kiya46107
@kiya46107 3 года назад
But for most of the story he's... a horse... not a dragon.
@numbersinnames5039
@numbersinnames5039 3 года назад
Well he’s kind of meant to serve as an allegory which is why he mainly acts as a horse, but his origins as a dragon is still very important.
@goldengaruda8935
@goldengaruda8935 3 года назад
Yes
@selenopheria
@selenopheria 3 года назад
/gestures to the JttW series here/ It is absolutely a joke to her.
@felinecontrolled
@felinecontrolled 3 года назад
Red: "one who stares" Me: So, cats? Also Red: Yes, cats!
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 3 года назад
Or owls.
@ryoumakoushiro7447
@ryoumakoushiro7447 3 года назад
It's cats.... I mean, look at them, they're staring into the corner, while I'm right by their side..... Yikes
@jakeaurod
@jakeaurod 3 года назад
Wasn't Falkor, the Luck Dragon in The Neverending Story, more dog-like? After all, what is a Pointer, but a dog who stares?
@matthewzard
@matthewzard 3 года назад
Johanna Geisel, omg, OWLS ARE FLYING CATS
@cereskerrigan
@cereskerrigan 3 года назад
Matthewzard Considering that owls can actually eat cats, I strongly advise that you think that comment through.
@shadowstar8619
@shadowstar8619 Год назад
"The power that comes with the utterance; the awe, the respect, the presence, the status - the dragon, embodiment of fear and reverence." This little quote is something I found that perfectly embodies what the concept of dragons ultimately boils down to. A living, universal symbol of power that everyone knows and respects for one reason or another. Just being called _a_ dragon in any sense of the word tends to garner respect or even fear, hence why the trope character of _the_ Dragon is often more easily recognized and feared even by viewers than the Big Bad might be, especially in cases where the Big Bad doesn't play a massive part in most of the story. In certain cases, the Dragon carrying more weight than the official Big Bad is a plot point in itself, hence the Dragon-in-Chief trope.
@vermas4654
@vermas4654 Год назад
I wish there were more movies, media and stories with dragons being protagonists or helping them and less of an enemy.
@phoenixfire1074
@phoenixfire1074 11 месяцев назад
Wings of Fire has that. It’s a book series with dragons as the protagonists
@nef36
@nef36 3 года назад
_Ancient human looks at lizard_ "What if that was bigger? *AND BETTER???"*
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 3 года назад
"Upgrades people! Upgrades!"
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 3 года назад
I mean, there are the Komodo dragons...
@rachaelevans8351
@rachaelevans8351 3 года назад
Petr Ševčík but wings
@Vegas242
@Vegas242 3 года назад
**Ancient human finds dinosaur fossil** "Holy shit! What kind of monster died to leave this here?!"
@italucenaz
@italucenaz 3 года назад
@@Vegas242 a giant human of couse
@TheBronzeDog
@TheBronzeDog 3 года назад
Fun idea: D&D-type setting where every intelligent variety of dragon insists they're the "true dragons" and all the others are just posers.
@vlaricshard2
@vlaricshard2 3 года назад
Make them embody metal stereotypes by subgenre
@onenerdycrow6280
@onenerdycrow6280 3 года назад
Yes
@brothervan3884
@brothervan3884 3 года назад
Oh wow! Play snake jazz in the back ground. :D
@MeepChangeling
@MeepChangeling 3 года назад
So... Just normal baseline D&D? Guys, please read the lore.
@bloodstoneore4630
@bloodstoneore4630 3 года назад
now I'm remembering that one tumblr pose about a noble dragonborn knight being sent to slay a dragon and rescue the princess only to realize she is both the dragon she is meant to kill and the princess she was sent to save
@willku9000
@willku9000 2 года назад
5:22 there is a played straiy Mockumentary about dragons that more or less does exactly that made by the BBC and originally airing on Animal Planet in America called Dragons World : A Fantasy made Real, which is a really fun movie and actually comes up with some pretty cool realistic answers to how Dragons could’ve lived, evolved, where they went and even how they were able to fly and even Breathe fire, while also covering a framing narrative centered around a Paleontologist who is called in to examine a frozen Dragon body that was found in an icy mountainous region that I’ve forgotten exactly where, thus providing proof of dragons existing. It’s a truly Facinating movie and I really recommend it, to you guys in particular. And if you’re not sold already, there’s a scene where a prehistoric Wyvern looking dragon fights a T-REX!
@jacewhite8540
@jacewhite8540 Год назад
Man I watched that when I was like 7. Probably inspired my love for fantasy. However nowadays it rings a lot of woo woo alarms and alerts me to film Quakery. You're really telling me they found an actual dragon, and it's not all over every history book?
@mr.picklethanos7340
@mr.picklethanos7340 Год назад
The fire breathing trope may have originated with the leviathan who is described as literally breathing fire and making the ocean depths boil with it's breath.
@craigtpm
@craigtpm 3 года назад
I wrote a story with draconic people and my favorite person was “Dr. Agon”
@Chickentendies1989
@Chickentendies1989 3 года назад
Why did it take me a second to get that
@craigtpm
@craigtpm 3 года назад
Michael my friend needed 2 days!
@jeremywang5754
@jeremywang5754 3 года назад
Thanks, I'm stealing that for a DND character
@xolotltolox7626
@xolotltolox7626 3 года назад
@@Chickentendies1989 How long did it take you to figure out that Alucard is Dracula backwards?
@craigtpm
@craigtpm 3 года назад
Jeremy go ahead
@murica7096
@murica7096 3 года назад
I wonder if that "lightning god x dragon" is caused by how thunder is the loudest thing most pre-industrial people could have the chance to hear so it makes sense that the biggest baddest monster would be fighting the lightning
@simpleman6352
@simpleman6352 3 года назад
Nice insight
@lokegerhardsson8979
@lokegerhardsson8979 3 года назад
Lightning is often seen in the sea during storms so it makes even more sense that most lightning gods fight sea dragons.
@acidbunny5
@acidbunny5 3 года назад
the lightning god x dragon instantly made me think of a cursed ship
@hughmungus3470
@hughmungus3470 3 года назад
The idea of a thunder god fighting a dragon has roots in a pre-historic culture group known as the "proto-Indo Europeans" who were spread across (get this) Europe and India, bringing their stories and mythology with them. One of those myths featured a thunder god facing off against a sea serpent connected to the ocean. It spread across the continents and changed over the course of thousands of years, but the seeds of the story remained mostly constant. The story of Susanoo and Orochi is actually a relatively recent myth that likely originated from Buddhist (i.e. Indian) influence on Japan.
@robrockstar9648
@robrockstar9648 3 года назад
Less likely but what If someone say on those thunderstorms that sometimes come off of volcanic Eruptions. That could easily appear as fire and lightning doing battle. On second thought is that Typhons thing? That He was trapped under as mountain that’s actually a volcano in real life? I can’t remember
@AvidLearner11
@AvidLearner11 Год назад
Dragons as a CATEGORY just blew my mind. Thanks!
@yusheitslv100
@yusheitslv100 Год назад
The first 30 seconds is literally why dragons are my favorite mythical creatures.
@meaganford1117
@meaganford1117 3 года назад
"Let's be real, the ultimate fusion of human primal fears would probably have a lot more spiders involved." The Silmarillion has entered the chat.
@JGuraan
@JGuraan 3 года назад
everybody gangster til the spider starts drinking trees
@johnphamlore8073
@johnphamlore8073 3 года назад
If the spider had killed Morgoth earlier a lot of trouble would have been saved from happening.
@IdiotinGlans
@IdiotinGlans 3 года назад
In Japanese folklore giant spiders act a lot like European dragons.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 3 года назад
@@IdiotinGlans Aren't giant spiders in Japanese folklore also inclined to be prostitutes as well? Now I'm upset about European Dragons are not all whored up standing on the corner in the Red Light District... >.>'
@Windows98.
@Windows98. 3 года назад
@@NimhLabs amsterdragon
@jackcarlson4358
@jackcarlson4358 3 года назад
"Dragon isn't a specific type of creature, it's a category, like fairy or demon" That's honestly the best way I've heard it put. I've definitely gotten into debates with people who insist that "wyverns aren't dragons" like there was ANY kind of universally agreed upon definition for the term. Edit: And here comes the "well actually" crowd. Seriously folks, it's such a pointless hill to die on.
@dragondudeification
@dragondudeification 3 года назад
Exactly. Plus there is a chance somewhere in history, there are stories that describe a dragon to be more wyvern like before the term wyvern became a official thing.
@hihi123hiful
@hihi123hiful 3 года назад
I mean, that might be because wyverns are seen as lesser or weaker. So if you’re into powerful dragons, it might be a sore spot
@TheOverArchiver
@TheOverArchiver 3 года назад
All wyverns are dragons, not all dragons are wyverns.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 3 года назад
D&D had the right idea, making "Dragon" its own creature category.
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 3 года назад
Same goes for people in the Pokemon fandom who whine about Altaria or Kingdra being dragons.
@davidpeterson5647
@davidpeterson5647 Год назад
Yoshi is the cutest "dragon" ever known. Fight me.
@SpecialEdge
@SpecialEdge Год назад
Trope talk on Mermaids could be interesting- also sirens ofc have Greek origins so it would be right up this channel’s alley
@MahsaKaerra
@MahsaKaerra Год назад
In the Red Dwarf television series, one of the characters said that the 'woman top - fish bottom' arrangement was the stupid way of doing it. Referring to their intention to have sex with a Mermaid.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 10 месяцев назад
Sirens are birds.
@anotherpenguinsbeard
@anotherpenguinsbeard 3 года назад
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons puny mortal. For thou art crunchy, and good with ketchup.
@nionashborn7626
@nionashborn7626 3 года назад
I have that on a t-shirt!!!!!
@jacket6213
@jacket6213 3 года назад
Protagonist: Yeah thats a cool story bro but uh, can you give me a ride? The final battle has started and I need to look cool.
@Gruntvc
@Gruntvc 3 года назад
But in Soviet Russia, humans eat dragons. Dragon sandwiches... 😎
@Vrangelrip
@Vrangelrip 3 года назад
I laughed so hard 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@tjnova972
@tjnova972 3 года назад
Nion Ashborn where can I get this shirt?
@anmolt3840051
@anmolt3840051 2 года назад
It blows my mind that 1000s of years in the future, some serious historian will inevitably analyse Blue eyes White dragon and Kobayashi's Dragon maid
@liammclin5722
@liammclin5722 2 года назад
“So as shown in this ancient poster of some sort, they worshipped some sort of goddess with a snakelike tai and deer like horns. We have yet to translate these ancient Japanese runes, but we think she has something to do with the copious depictions of the goddess with cat ears.”
@annakaro9081
@annakaro9081 2 года назад
@@liammclin5722 or they can just google the translation.
@emmanuelj670
@emmanuelj670 2 года назад
Historical studies in the far future are going to be so much weirder.
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 2 года назад
Imagine them thinking the dragon maid dragon was a fertility goddess because of her… well y’know, and pondering the connect BEWD had with Ancient Egypt.
@privatelast8724
@privatelast8724 2 года назад
If I'm not mistaken, Konami made a series of yugioh cards based off Dragon maid
@jackodonail1980
@jackodonail1980 2 года назад
13:58 the modern notion of a satyr being a man with goat-legs is actually a later Renaissance conflation between the Greek concept of a satyr and the Roman concept of a faun. Classical Greek satyroi were basically just men with horse tails and disturbingly large, constantly erect penises (and sometimes horns and pointed ears). In many pieces of Greek vase painting, satyroi are so mannish that most people would be unable to even identify them as anything else.
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 2 года назад
Well spotted! And some of the other monsters aren't entirely consistent either. Some ancient depictions of gryphons from Crete show them without wings. The term "Chinese Phoenix" has been given to a fabulous bird from Chinese mythology which does not have the association with fire. And while nowadays the Kraken usually appears as a cephalopod, for hundreds of years it switched from being a squid, lobster, crab, or whale. The original defining feature of the Kraken was that it was so huge it could be mistaken for an island.
@This-Was-Sparta
@This-Was-Sparta Год назад
Snakes & Sepulchres Wyverns & Winecellars Serpents & Strongholds Ogres & Ossuaries Cells & Centaurs Goblins & Graveyards Ouroboroi & Oubliettes... _That's all the ones I could think of. Feel free to suggest more..._
@DDlambchop43
@DDlambchop43 Год назад
well, considering I know what an oubliette is...that's terrifying.
@hfar_in_the_sky
@hfar_in_the_sky 3 года назад
“If you thought it was actually a curved, spiked club, it’s actually a fun sized dragon.” And just when you thought Aztec mythology couldn’t get more metal, we get god wielding dragons as personal weapons
@sewerrat7321
@sewerrat7321 3 года назад
I got a few "Fun sized Dragons" of my own, if you catch my drift.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 3 года назад
@@sewerrat7321 that was a bad reference, but I got it 😉
@tsubaki4106
@tsubaki4106 3 года назад
Aztec mythology, warrior culture and weapons technology is about as metal as you can get without using actual metal. Obsidian 4 life, yo!
@PhyreI3ird
@PhyreI3ird 3 года назад
As much as I love things being metal, it honestly gave me more cartooney/looney tune vibes xD Just imagine the other Aztec gods going around bending other beings into weapons and engaging in slapstick shenanigans together while their human followers are all the polar opposite engaging in tortorous blood-rites and shit.
@pleasecallmedoku7215
@pleasecallmedoku7215 3 года назад
*"Why dragons?"* Me, an intellectual: Big lizard go _W O O O O S H_
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 года назад
Very Nice, I Chuckled
@user-dk5ne2nd7c
@user-dk5ne2nd7c 3 года назад
Well, you're not wrong
@veturwinter
@veturwinter 3 года назад
This post really sucks, what even is the joke
@carnosaur93
@carnosaur93 Год назад
just have to shoutout all those little drawings of dragons, they are all great and adorable
@TheDeadlyKnight
@TheDeadlyKnight 2 года назад
I like clever, perilous dragons, who at heart are predatory to man. A character may even seemingly parley words with the types of dragons I’m thinking of, but when all is said & done that character potentially a victim. Tolkien’s Smaug & Glaurung fit the description. Also I always liked Yevaud from le Guin’s Earthsea
@phoenixfire1074
@phoenixfire1074 3 года назад
I have a sweater that says, “Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup”
@aidangreen7711
@aidangreen7711 3 года назад
I have a plaque with almost the same quote. Except it's "for thou art crunchy and would taste good with ketchup."
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 3 года назад
I want that sweater
@mcintoshpc
@mcintoshpc 3 года назад
omw to rob you, sorry pal
@JessicaDuane
@JessicaDuane 3 года назад
My mom has that shirt!
@The_Jaker
@The_Jaker 3 года назад
I remember having that shirt when I was like 6
@thatoneweirdasexual1404
@thatoneweirdasexual1404 3 года назад
Uncle Iroh is the best dragon. I accept no criticism on this.
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 3 года назад
Kiryu Kazuma and Ryuji Goda arch eyebrows...
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 3 года назад
I would say I'd kick the ass of anyone who disagrees with this assessment, but that's not what Iroh would want me to do.
@Celia_Louise
@Celia_Louise 3 года назад
@@blackjacktrial your rejection application will be... well, rejected. The origional commenter is not accepting criticism on this particular matter at this time.
@donnamitsuki281
@donnamitsuki281 3 года назад
Agreed
@donnamitsuki281
@donnamitsuki281 3 года назад
@@sayerglasgow115 unless they're Azula If it's Azula then it's fine
@theimaginatrix7625
@theimaginatrix7625 2 года назад
"The Princess is dating the dragon ..." Do not come into my house and attack one of my OTPs, Princess Andromeda and Periapt from One Good Night by Mercedes Lackey. That was an adorable match and I won't hear slander of it. Also Peri was a Bookwyrm, one of the better puns I've ever heard in any story.
@CavalryofWinter
@CavalryofWinter 8 месяцев назад
I want a trope talk on witches, and their often metaphorical nature!
@emmae2520
@emmae2520 3 года назад
Who else had all the Dragonology books and as a child was very invested in the taxonomy and evolution of dragons?
@ilikecookies9796
@ilikecookies9796 3 года назад
Me. I loved that series.
@rationalroundhead6739
@rationalroundhead6739 3 года назад
I found the comprehensive compendium in the book bus when I was a kid, and I got so exited because I thought dragons were real and this was an actual record of different types of dragons. I cried so hard when I read the part about extinct dragons because I thought it meant that I’d never get to meet a real-live Krakatoan dragon and have it eat out of my hands like the book said they did and have a cool pet mini dragon. I was a stupid kid. But I absolutely loved that book, so thanks for reminding me that it existed.
@hansruhlmann454
@hansruhlmann454 3 года назад
I have the original, and also borrowed one of the spin-offs on a library. It is a big part of my childhood.
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 3 года назад
MEEEE!
@l30ng62
@l30ng62 3 года назад
Ive got Two dragonology books as a kid and i loved them 🐉🐉
@Raptorman0205
@Raptorman0205 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure that the whole Dragon taxonomy debate started because everyone bought that Dragonology book at their school's scholastic book fair and took it WAY too seriously
@CJCroen1393
@CJCroen1393 3 года назад
Dragonology! That takes me back X3 That said, I'd argue it might have instead been due to that Animal Planet documentary about dragons.
@cuttlefishonfire7502
@cuttlefishonfire7502 3 года назад
I remember that book!
@ShaunCheah
@ShaunCheah 3 года назад
I remember trying to carefully tease open one of the sealed envelope elements so as not to leave any tears or damage the book when my mum came by with a letteropener like "oh I'll help with that" and just ripped the thing open. Almost two decades have passed and I'm still upset.
@Mirro18
@Mirro18 3 года назад
God, let's be real tho, those books were rad and fun and they got me into that kinda thing for actual animals
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 3 года назад
Yeah
@Thesquishiestbean
@Thesquishiestbean 2 года назад
I love how the one dude straight-up uses a dragon as a weapon. Imagine slinging a rattlesnake around to use it as a poison whip.
@leaftiger12
@leaftiger12 Год назад
I have two dragons in my book series and animals with dragon-like features. The two dragons serve a major point in the story revolving magic, power, jealously, responsibly, self control, creation, and destruction. I can wait to finally write the series!
@liminal7738
@liminal7738 3 года назад
“So you know lizards?” “Yeah, what about them” “What if we have them wings?” “Why would we-“ “And made them breath fire?” “Wha-“ “People will love it” “I don’t see why this will be more popular than the hundreds of other hybrids that have been created” 2000 years later ...
@cleoking6312
@cleoking6312 3 года назад
Tbf to other chimera, dragons are chimera, from the tarrasque to smoug
@MsMacintosh
@MsMacintosh 3 года назад
You seem to have watched too much of the "god creates things" from P.M. seymour.
@USSAnimeNCC-
@USSAnimeNCC- 3 года назад
dragon stone Also someone paint a dragon on the side f my warship yeah
@Lowecust
@Lowecust 3 года назад
Heh, horse plus spike
@michellecornum5856
@michellecornum5856 3 года назад
Dragons, fairies and demons -- like pornography, "-- can't define it, but I know it when I see it."
@cleoking6312
@cleoking6312 3 года назад
Also they are in pornography
@lavengale
@lavengale 3 года назад
Also in the list: Sexualizing woman in media (And men at times)
@Ribbons0121R121
@Ribbons0121R121 3 года назад
Bᵤₜ Wₕₐₜ ᵢF ᵢₜ ᵢₛ ₚₒᵣₙ
@Enderlinkpawnu
@Enderlinkpawnu 3 года назад
@@Ribbons0121R121 you'll know when you see it
@screaminggecko7660
@screaminggecko7660 3 года назад
thank you for this
@AdviceGinger
@AdviceGinger 2 года назад
The whole "anything can be a dragon" is taken very literally when Kirin in Monster Hunter is considered an Elder Dragon despite being a giant lightning unicorn
@Galimeer5
@Galimeer5 7 месяцев назад
I'm convinced that the ubiquity of dragons in mythology across the world is because of early cultures finding dinosaur bones
@thelegend8570
@thelegend8570 3 года назад
Thor: I have a cool hammer, what weapon do you use? Huitzilopochtli: *_S N E K_*
@coolgreenbug7551
@coolgreenbug7551 3 года назад
Thor: I concede
@kabob0077
@kabob0077 3 года назад
Jormüngandr: *P O W E R S N E K*
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 3 года назад
Vimes of the Watch: Oh hey, I have one of those too
@mutantmaster1
@mutantmaster1 3 года назад
The whole "one who stares" leans credence to the whole 'dragons are just big scaly cats'
@shadowstriker6506
@shadowstriker6506 3 года назад
So toothless
@Ribbons0121R121
@Ribbons0121R121 3 года назад
yo now i wanna see funny dragon vids
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 3 года назад
That explains their hoards.
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 3 года назад
@@Ribbons0121R121 "DRAGON ACCIDENTALLY BURNS DOWN FIREWORKS WAREHOUSE! [hilarious]"
@danirodriguez3682
@danirodriguez3682 3 года назад
I’m still waiting for one of my cats to breathe fire when I’m 3 seconds late to feeding them
@trickytristan1
@trickytristan1 Год назад
with the context that early dragons were related/connected to water it makes sense they would also have a relationship with storm gods, because in those early cultures the earliest cities were built around rivers, and storms are the one thing that causes those rivers to be a problem (via flooding). Seeing this translated as our water dragon/god figure being upset by a storm kinda makes sense with that in mind.
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 2 года назад
Though dragons are infamous for their diversity, some of the other monsters described here aren't quite as consistent as you might think. 1. Gryphons are pretty consistent overall, but some ancient depictions of them don't have wings. 2. The word phoenix was applied to other fabulous birds unrelated to the phoenix myth. The so called "Chinese phoenix" has no connection with fire. 3. In its earliest stories, the Kraken's defining trait was that it was so huge it could be mistaken for an island. Various stories depict it as a creature similar to a cephalopod, lobster, or whale, though eventually the cephalopod depiction seemed to win out. 4. Ancient Greek depictions of satyrs usually portrayed them as being a man with the ears, tail, and phallus of a horse. They eventually got combined with the Roman idea of a faun, which was half man, half goat.
@lemonwicky597
@lemonwicky597 3 года назад
"Storm Gods vs Dragons is more universal than you think." *Remembers how the storm deity of my DnD campaign wrestled his Eastern Asian inspired dragon servant for nearly five hundred years straight before defeating the dragon, resulting in the dragon's servitude* Oh my god, I had this idea for MONTHS, I guess it's more ingrained in fantasy than I thought.
@scorfadontis8110
@scorfadontis8110 3 года назад
That sounds like an awesome world!
@lemonwicky597
@lemonwicky597 3 года назад
@@scorfadontis8110 Haha, I use the Dawn War pantheon and The Alrisen from GenuineFantasyPress' Compendium of Forgotten Secrets: Awakening and twist them to fit my own world. It's not nearly as cool or original as I made it sound.
@ericthered2963
@ericthered2963 3 года назад
When I read that, I imagined the undertaker with Thor's hair grabbing the dragon by the back and doing a suplex with him sending thunder down to the earth on impact.
@sebastianswan7975
@sebastianswan7975 3 года назад
Things get boring when you fight for over 500 hours
@yourimaginaryfriend65
@yourimaginaryfriend65 3 года назад
It sound pretty cool thanks for sharing it ☺️
@burntcaramel6908
@burntcaramel6908 3 года назад
Dragons: Storms gods always make my life worse Every ancient greek woman ever:
@ryeryeryerye
@ryeryeryerye 3 года назад
Jajajajaja
@mariunfabregas7533
@mariunfabregas7533 3 года назад
Dammit Zeus
@amethyst_cat9532
@amethyst_cat9532 3 года назад
We need some sort of fic or animation about a dragon and a Greek woman drinking tea and gossiping about the latest shenanigans of the storm gods
@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar
@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar 3 года назад
@@amethyst_cat9532 That would be hilarious XD
@sanai97
@sanai97 3 года назад
Every woman ever: men *shiver*
@Punkmetric
@Punkmetric Год назад
In Hawaiiian mythos we also have dragons (Mo‘o.) But they're basically just giant scary geckos/lizards lol
@mizranozahara968
@mizranozahara968 10 месяцев назад
It occurs to me that this prolly explains why Monster Hunter calls all of its end game monsters "Elder Dragon" despite one being a Bug that can build a mech, one that is a floating ravioli with psychic powers, one is a volcano with legs, and one is an alien that was born in the fight you fight it in.
@johnnybestjojo7789
@johnnybestjojo7789 3 года назад
"nooo! you can just combine the most common predators of ancestral humans and primates into one animal as a representation of destruction and primal fear!!!" "haha fire lizard go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" Edit: this was particularly about european dragons, i think the point OSP made is true too. i think it makes sense that dragons as fearsome creatures in culture originated from our past predators, but they have become much more, and didn't start that way in every culture. Edit edit: also y'all know you can have interesting discusion about this stuff without being dicks right? as long as no views that directly harm people are being perpetrated no one is morally in the wrong.
@warlynx5644
@warlynx5644 3 года назад
“Haha fire lizard go FOOOOSH”
@squid5523
@squid5523 3 года назад
"Haha fire lizard go FWOOSH
@royalninja2823
@royalninja2823 3 года назад
Someone clearly didn't see the end of this vid
@squid5523
@squid5523 3 года назад
@@royalninja2823You sound so self important.
@nin2494
@nin2494 3 года назад
@@squid5523 You sound like you didn't refute any of what they said. If I'm an asshole because I shout at an idiot, sure, I'm an asshole. Does that mean he's correct in being a idiot? No, it means both him and myself are wrong in some capacity.
@kevinabiwardani7550
@kevinabiwardani7550 Год назад
Then, there's Charizard, a dragon looking creature which is not a dragon type. While a palm tree with tails and legs are dragon type. Gotta to love them. Also Dialga and Palkia being a godly draconic deity of Sinnoh/Hisui took the legends of our real world myth to modern times.
@broEye1
@broEye1 3 месяца назад
"Horse Plus Spike" might just be my favorite definition of unicorns ever.
@Mark_Goddin
@Mark_Goddin 3 года назад
“Fairy tails are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.” -Neil Gaiman
@chimedemon
@chimedemon 3 года назад
Sorry... but reading that while seeing your profile picture of a dude with a fedora just made me die.
@luketufts6827
@luketufts6827 3 года назад
I love this quote
@Mark_Goddin
@Mark_Goddin 3 года назад
NiD0 Ravensbeard Thank you? It’s actually a cowboy hat. The picture was taken when I was a sophomore in high school and I edited with a now non-existent photo software. I like the colours.
@herodotus945
@herodotus945 3 года назад
That quote is not from Gaiman, it is from one of his favorite authors Gilbert Chesterton.
3 года назад
@@Mark_Goddin *Fairy tales, not "tails". "Fairy Tail" it's an anime.
@Alex13501
@Alex13501 8 месяцев назад
From the time i have seen Dragonheart for the first time, my love and admiration for dragons only grows.
@kristyalberton9498
@kristyalberton9498 2 года назад
I love listening to you. Your use of descriptions, the words you use and the way you frame the ideas is very fun to listen to. Keep up the great work.
@IAmEvilTree
@IAmEvilTree 3 года назад
Lysanderoth: A fine video indeed. King Dragon sends his regards.
@blarg2429
@blarg2429 3 года назад
I think that enemy got... the point!
@oracleiscool
@oracleiscool 3 года назад
this reference is so random and yet I instantly understood it
@liaminator4950
@liaminator4950 3 года назад
AYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@SignalRaptor_
@SignalRaptor_ 3 года назад
“HRRAAAH!” Gee, do you think that enemy did or did not get the point?
@monkey_blu
@monkey_blu 3 года назад
"Why are you doing this?"
@davidsachs4883
@davidsachs4883 3 года назад
Playing D&D as teens a random farm was smashed up by a giant drake. My brother knew a drake was a dragon and hunted it down. A drake is also a male duck. What he caught up with was a half ton male duck. He dragged it back to town and hosted a feast for the entire village.
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 года назад
Horse sized duck?
@davidsachs4883
@davidsachs4883 3 года назад
Taller and thinner Long wings hit much harder, from further, then real world swans May have been over a half ton it was long ago
@brynnb2841
@brynnb2841 2 года назад
omg i so wanna use this in the campaign i’m running lol
@AskMia411
@AskMia411 2 года назад
I didn't know ducks were called drakes
@smileyface81mc77
@smileyface81mc77 2 года назад
Stealing this.
@donnguyen1107
@donnguyen1107 2 года назад
The greeks also have Drakaina (female dragons) that are half woman half dragon, which include echidna, kinda like the South/Southeast Asian naga that also inspire the dragons in Raya and the Last Dragon
@jaxsonzuccala2590
@jaxsonzuccala2590 Год назад
One of my favorite interpretations of dragons was in Fablehaven book 4 where they go to a dragon sanctuary. Mull did a fantastic job of making them insanely powerful and intimidating without being untouchable. A character describes them as seeing humans as mice: not particularly tasty but you’d kill it just to get rid of the vermin. But if the mouse starts talking you’ll be interested and might keep them alive (these dragons also paralyze you with fear when you’re in their presence and hypnotize you with their stare, so speaking in their presence was an impressive feat). Each dragon also has the ability to turn human and has a single magical breath weapon that varies between dragons. The characters spend most of their efforts avoiding the dragons, and when they are forced to encounter them they talk themselves out of it rather than try to fight bc they know they are ridiculously outmatched. They only kill two dragons in the whole book, one was a lucky opening that the dragon couldn’t have predicted and the other was with the use of a magical weapon that specifically countered that dragon’s power. Naturally they had to make a whole spin-off book series that was based entirely on the dragons, but what was so great ab the first series is that the dragons were used sparingly and to great effect each time. Every time a dragon was in a scene, you got tense bc yk it’s almost impossible to defeat them but they weren’t some godlike being that had little interaction with the characters or that were so untouchable that you don’t even try to consider how hard it would be to fight them. They reached the ideal threshold of being super powerful while still being an obstacle that’s possible for the heroes to overcome. Plus the varied personalities of the dragons was believable and compelling. Just overall my fav use of dragons in media
@coloraddiction
@coloraddiction 3 года назад
"Even a character who's not physically a dragon in any way can still get that kind of reputation by being nicknamed after a dragon." *Immediately pictures Iroh.* *Sees Iroh a moment later* "YES!" Also this made me really want to draw
@pablotomasllodra4423
@pablotomasllodra4423 3 года назад
Dracula meant Son of a Dragon, I think.
@evenaarek1042
@evenaarek1042 3 года назад
Do it, coward
@JimBob4233
@JimBob4233 3 года назад
@@pablotomasllodra4423 Yeah, that's because Vlad III 'Dracula' the Impaler's father was Vlad II Drakul - Vlad the Dragon.
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 3 года назад
@@pablotomasllodra4423 Satan himself has also been given the epithet "The Dragon." So next time you do Christianity based fiction, add dragons.
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 3 года назад
@@JimBob4233 And he got that nickname from being part of a chivalric order known as the Order of the Dragon.
@erinhand6004
@erinhand6004 3 года назад
"They aren't real." Way to crush my childhood and adulthood in one step.
@peterbota1913
@peterbota1913 3 года назад
Then go get a PHD in genetics, study CRISPR, find a wealthy eccentric to bankroll you in secret and Make Them Real! Eh, a sapient can dream
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 3 года назад
Tell that to the Komodo Dragon and its venomous fangs!
@Mark_Goddin
@Mark_Goddin 3 года назад
When I first had to confront this, I cried. I was 8.
@thearchitect2112
@thearchitect2112 3 года назад
@Peter Bota with time and money, it is very likely that a dragon like creature can be made
@tiagodarkpeasant
@tiagodarkpeasant 3 года назад
@@thearchitect2112 even better, discover a creature that exists and nobody knows, write a book were said creature is a dragon, then reveal the creature saying "real dragon found in nature"
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