Cruises should start requiring everyone to have passports so they’re able to stop by other nearby land in case of emergency... not go all the way back to USA
I don't think that was the actual problem. They probably didn't want to pay the hotel and airfare to get people home. You have to have your birth certificate, or passport to get back ashore once you get back home. Something could have easily been worked out with everything collected to go on a cruise to begin with.
@@TSwany I went to Mexico via Carnival when I was 12. When you're a minor in the USA, you only need a birth certificate/verification of American birth. I went on a cruise again a month after I turned 18 few years ago (to Nassau, Bahamas) and registered for a passport couple of months before my trip.
CARNIVAL LIED. In an emergency you don’t need a passport to be rescued. Furthermore they had two empty cruise ships nearby. They could have temporarily landed, transferred the passengers, and avoided 8 days of misery .
I love all the people commenting that these people are drama queens. Like you wouldn’t scared being in the middle of ocean, having very little food, doing your business in bags, and having very little contact with loved ones. Don’t claim that you would be completely fine in this situation because you are lying to yourself.
Victor Davalos I’m not claiming that other people around the world have a more difficult than the people in this news report. I’m calling out the fact that some of the commenters think that the passengers on this boat are drama queens like they, themselves wouldn’t be in the same situation.
Actually I wish I was on this cruise it it wasn’t as bad as they described it I know all too well it could’ve easily have been 1000 times worse than it was if I was on this cruise I would’ve taken it as an adventure and I could’ve gotten a free cruise
Anthony W Lee exactly! When in high school we had to use my school as a shelter during a hurricane. Being a family member worked there we got to stay in a separate wing of the school but when going into the main part for food it smelled so bad because people were letting their kids go to the bathroom alone and those kids were flushing complete rolls of toilet paper and other things down the toilet clogging them! It was horrific! People need to act better!
@@caseythompson474--What's wrong with so many people letting their brats act like animals? A cat pulls out whole rolls of toilet paper. A dog might pick off a roll and put it in the toilet. Human beings should know better by about age 3 and before that they should be watched. Thankfully, earthquakes (what we have) rarely require staying in a shelter.
Same thing happens at Electric Daisy Carnival (music festival). The toilets are spilling onto the floor in just a few hours, because people don’t know how to behave .
Connor Mckenzie that was more than generous plus a full refund this incident wasn’t as bad as these maniacs described it take it from me I know cruise ships this incident could’ve easily been 1000 times worse
“Oh my gosh this is like titanic” Yea except the ship didn’t sink and nobody died...so yea, exactly the same. Don’t get me wrong I’d be pissed too if my vacation got ruined and it sounds like a really bad few days, but that’s still a way over dramatic statement.
In an emergency you go for the nearest port. Technically the ship was probably not in an emergency at that point, but of course it could develop rapidly. Without sanitation and proper water and food supply, only a gastroenteritis would have been enough. Spreading rapidly and dehydrating everyone in the heat. In my opinion this is an excellent example of business before safety.
Yes normally the ship has people spraying your hands with disinfectant. On this broken ship, they had 8 days without toilets or soap or water, but apparently the CEO didn’t care that conditions were unsanitary .
this is not business before safety but just the opposite. it would have taken longer because they wouldn't be admitted into any country without their passport
@@laceybanter5937even if they had gone to nearby Progreso, Mexico it would have not solved the problem because the ship would have been held up in port for repairs and the cruise would have been cancelled. As a result, many passengers would have been stranded in Mexico as they did not have passports which they would have needed to fly home.
Get Real you just spent a fortune on a cruse, probably had to take time off work, maybe had to pay for parking, maybe had to pay baby sitters, may have had to have your pets taken care of, and then you have to wallow around in shit and eat onion sandwiches. And you think an insulting 500$ is fair compensation. Plus the fact that you didn't even know if you were going to survive. The one couple had their wedding destroyed. These companies make so much fucking money, 500$ what a joke!
They were stuck in the middle of the ocean with limited food and water and no electricity and they probably spent at least 3000 on this cruise you would have been scared to
Timothy Holcomb 500$ plus a FULL REFUND!!!!!! That’s more than enough compensation in my mind nobody died the conditions weren’t that terrible they should’ve felt very fortunate the whole ship didn’t go up in flames
Valerie, did you even watch it? $500 + the price of the cruise + a voucher for another one and travel expenses paid for. Don't be such an idiot ya goose
Stephanie Mukai YOU KNOW WHY YOU WILL TAKE THE $500?🥴BECAUSE YOU DON’T HAVE SHIT TO YOUR NAME OR A WINDOW TO THROW IT OUT!🤨WE SPENT $6000 FOR THAT SHIT HOLE CRUISE. SO PULL UP YOUR DIRTY KNICKERS AND GET A REAL JOB!
20 years ago we ran aground with Carnival, off Nevis, onto a reef. We were stranded 2 days. It happened at 3am and woke everyone up, the 2nd in command was drunk and steered the ship the wrong way. After that, Carnival is a no-no for me until the day I die.
@@DIVISIONINCISION the ship wouldn't start when we arrived, we didn't leave the port until 2 hours after we were scheduled, and my family had never been on a cruise ship before, so when the ship was kind of jerky (more than it should have been really) we just assumed it was normal, because we didn't know better. Many of the passengers talked about how the ship didn't seem alright. We couldnt even go to Cozumel which is where we were scheduled to dock because the ship was having so many issues we had to go to a closer City in Mexico. Which I found really odd. I was only 14 at the time.
I was on that cruise and it was not as bad as all the drama queens make it out to be. I also have been on 3 more carnival cruises since then. Two of the cruises where on the Triumph and I will cruise that ship again.
It’s possible the stored food was damaged by water or smoke from the fire. Also if there’s no electricity then meat, eggs, etc would thaw & spoil. And of course no way to cook it .
Thanks for the video. Only those of on that cruise will truly understand. The morning the call came across the loud speaker at 5:28am and smoke filled the lower cabins/hallways and the ship went dead in the water I for one will never forget. However I do believe the word "tragedy" is a strong word. We all will have a different story, depending where we were on the ship and who was traveling with us, etc. My husband & I took my special needs daughter on the cruise for her 21st birthday. As a mom my focus immediately turned to her safety, her meds and would they last long enough. Hey I from Texas I know how to camp, but I am not use to bobbing up and down in the middle of the gulf of Mexico, on a leaning ship with no one around for hundreds of miles. I remember the ship leaning so bad at one point I was thinking it was surely going to tip over at anytime. I know your mind wonders at times like these, or mine does anyway. If it would have different had it just been me, however I am a mom first and I had a child to care for. Believe it or not, not just rich folks take cruises. Hard working folks save up for months to take nice vacations! My family has since taking another cruise with Carnival and I have another one book with RC for this year. I am sorry if I offend anyone, however I feel Carnival should have never sent that ship out and put their passengers and crew in danger(and yes I get accident happen, but could this have been preventable). I do believe God was watching over us all! I am thankful that the firemen aboard were able to extinguish the fire, we made it back to land, nobody died and we have more days to live and enjoy life. I for one intend to do just that!!! God Bless!
Problem, as long as it's a pro-profit enterprise, this sort of shit will stay rampant if there is no regulation. In order to get regulation, you'll have to force it at the end of a gun barrel, i.e. force.
Not if they don't intend on getting off the ship in ports of call, you just need a birth certificate or something else to get back into the US when it returns home. I personally find that excuse for not going to the closest land to be a load of shit.
@Gregory Smith that is incorrect. As long as you leave from an American port and return to the same port at the end of the cruise then a passport isn't needed but it's just recommended in case you miss the ship at a foreign port
@Gregory Smith I just got off a cruise not 3 weeks ago. I shit you not... a Passport was NOT required. it was recommended, but I saw plenty of adults carrying their birth certificate porting out of Baltimore, going to the Bahamas and coming back to Baltimore. I'm not saying I recommend that practice, cause I don't... You never know when/if you are going to have some kind of emergency that would lead you to flying home or to your next port. As Jason said about returning to the same port you left from, 98% are doing just that. Might I also add, that your 'any boat not built in America isn't allowed to take Americans to another American port unless it goes to a foreign port' is a load of shit. I'm travelling on the Regal Princess in October, built in Italy registered in Bermuda, porting out of New York, going to Newport Rhode Island, Boston Mass., Bar Harbor Maine, St John in New Brunswick, and Halifax Nova Scotia.
Anything could happen on any ship Royal is my favorite but I was on a Royal ship when a fire broke out in it. Not a good experience. I rather be stranded then a fire
I remember I went on a carnival ship we sailed in the middle of a storm off the coast of Miami I was thrown off my bunk on the top onto my parents bed at the bottom 😂 let's just say I was scared crapless
Passports before lives. I've been on one of their floating busses - the Victory from 2001 (Went in 2017). We just got done with an 8 day trip on the Disney Fantasy last week. Had any thing even close to that happened .. they would have alerted the cavalry. One of their other 3 nearest ships would have been in route immediately. This is horrifying.
Having worked in the travel industry and taking great pleasure in making sure my clients got every amenity available, every discount, every extra excursion possible, I have to say that I rarely steered my clients towards cruises because in my personal experience I found them to be not just targets for safety issues but altogether too confining. I've had fellow agents tell me "if you don't have fun on a cruise there's something wrong with you," to which I've replied, "Can I ride a horse on the promenade deck, or climb thru state park trails and see 400 different species of birds on a cruise?" Their collective reactions were either gaping stares or responses like, "That's why you have ports of call." I would tell them that I don't want ports of call, I want to go to a city, a country, a resort, a destination where everything is already available to me, whether I'm looking to experience the Grand Tour of Europe, or an Explorative 14-day Wilderness Expedition Hike into the Yukon. I'm not interested in having to get off and get back on a ship again . And in between having to time everything because the ship has deadlines. There's no fun in that, only more stress and it's from that which I'm trying to get away! And, there are just TOO many things that can go wrong for a person on a ship with 1500 to 3000 other people in close quarters with you. Who wants all that hassle and crowded permission you have to allow for each other! No, when I took someone and their family, or just a single individual on the trip of a lifetime I made sure they'd have an incredible time with loads of perks and no one to get in their way! Even if they went to family resorts like Disney or Six Flags or Cedarpoint. The risk of disease cross-contamination among passengers on a cruise, should there be some kind of breakout, would be swift and rampant, and a person would have little chance of avoiding contracting it even if they were sequestered to their cabins. Whereas a passenger on a plane, train, hydrofoil, dogsled or horseback need only return to their point of outset, and if too impaired, their guide can either be or get them the help they need. I always tied up all loose ends, too. I arranged for all their hotels, transfers, tickets, passes, guides, times, meals (kinds), extras on flights and trains, seats, berths, cars--everything along the way and all that would be waiting for them at their point(s) of destination. It was such great fun taking them places all around this country and the world! And it was a tremendousLy gratifying experience as well just getting to know the clients and hearing from them afterwards that they'd had an incredible time. The magnitude of what a really well-trained travel agent had to know was promethian, but that has become all but obsolete now. And I think that's a bit of a shame, because tourists or passengers don't have a complete picture of what is out there, what I'd available, and what destination or excursion may be dangerous and should be avoided. I see this in the people who've gone missing in countries where there is heavy drug and sex-trafficking, and young women who are independent and who think they have a grip on the world and can venture as they please. If there had been an agent to advise them they'd never have gone to the places that devoured them. People don't have access, or don't know how or what to access when looking to arrange for a vacation. There are travel advisories not just for weather, but for danger because a country is known for its drug cartels, or terrorist activity, or anti-American ethos. There are folks out there that are just plain mean! and if you don't know where on that excursion not to turn you could wind up a statistic. Like the couples' who've disappeared in Bali. People had an advantage with us, because we also could pull 'strings,' we had discounts that venues accorded us that weren't available to the average passenger. But maybe that's what Trivago and Expedia and Zicasso are doing for people. I just pray that people do more research before they get their passports.
it’s not that easy. you can’t get passengers on the boat without opening the doors which are underwater..... also the 2 boats would not be able to get close enough for people to transfer over..
Those ships were sanitary with running water & toilets. Leaving people for 8 days in unsanitary conditions was dangerous & could have caused a disease epidemic .
Am I the only one who thought: thank goodness the ship had a safety system that put out the fire or many people could have died. With all the cruises that take place I’m impressed with how safe they are.
Are y'all actually criticizing these people for panicking over being stranded with hardly any food or water and sewage flowing everywhere? Y'all are crazy.
Yes because they should’ve felt very lucky the whole ship didn’t go up in flames that could’ve easily been a whole lot worse and the crew did everything they could to make them happy
They've been trying to totally renovate this ship because it's become known for breaking down at sea, but just this week during renovations it caught fire. Honestly, why would anyone get on this ship?
My husband and my self would take a cruise each year, one year 2 cruises....the last one I was assaulted, no crew helped, we tried to file a report, not willing to take it, the purser kept telling us no, no, NO....I insisted, so they gave me a piece of paper and had me write down exactly what happened....I am sure they threw it in the trash, no sorry letter, no acknowledgment at all....we learned there is no police, no security at all on a ship...something happens and you are on your own.....needlessly we never took another cruise...I was afraid to leave my cabin, ate sandwiches from room service the whole cruise
"helicopters dropped off generators". The single biggest oversight is not having backup generators that can at least sustain running water and cooking facilities until the ship can get to land...
@@queenlanapepsicola2338 Except the Conccodia lost only 32 people compare to the 1500 people Titanic lost and most of them died from the freezing Northern Atlantic waters.
I've had a bad experience on a cruise ship. Realizing just how little rights you have at sea, I won't go again. The entire industry needs an overhaul. You are NOT safe on these ships.
within 7 hours of being dead in the water, cannibal gangs began roaming the decks searching for victims, while other groups began to form cults, sacrificing other passengers in order to gain protection from the elements
Carnival is the same cruise line that just got caught dumping tons of plastic into the ocean a SECOND time! It would take me a lot before I decided to choose Carnival over Royal Caribbean
Man. I had heard about this incident before, but didn't know that the Triumph is now the Sunrise. I just did a 4 day cruise on the Sunrise from Sept. 30th to Oct. 4th. I couldn't imagine being in this situation.
Fruther investigation revealed that carnival was aware of an increased risk for generator fire and chose to sail anyway without taking any preventative measures. When questioned carnival said "the cruise contract does not guarantee in any circumstance safe travel on sea worthy vessals" another example of the "fun ships" being not so fun. Oh and BTW if Costa Concordia looks familiar, its because its a sister of carnival victory that the company sold to costa. Coincidence?
My husband was a crew member on the Sapphire Prince and when he started having symptoms that could only be attributed to brain cancer, they denied him a brain scan and gave him aspirin, which is is allergic to. The attending physician recommended a bran scan, but the supervising physician was quoted as saying, "its too expensive". He started bleeding internally from the aspirin. They eventually had to remove him from the ship via ambulance.
Clearly only showing interviews from people who were upset. Plenty of other videos of eye witness accounts that detail it much differently. Accidents happen. these companies are not out to make your life miserable.
My co-worker was on the ship. She said the crew never helped and the majority didn't speak English. She said they had issues before the ship even left port.
Man these people are creative. They built tent cities out of bed sheets and the crew members never gave up to try and comfort the passengers in any way. Don't blame Carnival for this. It was just a ship malfunction and they truly tried to do everything they can.
so basically i go on carnival ships all the time and i talked to my last cruise director about this, she said she was also the cruise director on this particular cruise and that as horrid as it was they did manage to have fun by hosting games etc everyday and they also had one working microphone to do karaoke on. She said that these days if there were an engine fire, the ship would be fine as they now have a backup generator. All ships do because of this incident. :)
arizonatsunami you need to be shut up, I have been on 4 carnival cruises and I love all of them. They are so nice, safe and easy travel, good food, good service. I would go on one again
@@ericamarie1384 Not surprised they didn't die off from food poisoning on the first fucking night. Fucking $500 more than there original ticket lovely upgrade for them they profited of the bastard holiday.
$500 insult? The guy just said refund, another free trip with all travel costs covered, and $500. If you want to file a law suit, do it. I would too. But you don't expect them to start handing out settlement checks right there at the dock do you?
@@isaacavendano2240--Ungrateful?? No toilets for 5 days, one meal of onions between two pieces of bread once a day for 5 days, shit everywhere and you blame them for being pissed? What about the guy who had his ceiling cave in and drench him with shit and pee? $500 is shit for that; that's just a few days in a motel or enough to pay a week off your mortgage. Offered another cruise; who would want that after that? Ungrateful my ass.
I remember once when i was younger me and my family went on the triumph and it broke down mid sea. We all went to the stations like it was sinking or on fire. It eventually started back up but looking back it was terrifying.
I remember the Press Conference! "Because of all the suffering, The Only Family that will be left Alive, Anywhere, is The Royal Family, and Cleopatra!"
You get what you pay for with Carnival cruise line. A simple price comparison in the market will show you that old ships sailing out of Galveston TX are cheaper for a reason. As an avid cruiser, stick with Royal Caribbean or Princess for a safe, responsible cruise line. I was onboard Explorer of the Seas during a hurricane and had to stay at sea an extra day. Everything went smoothly and staff handled it flawlessly. I was on Emerald Princess during the Tsunami that hit Haiti and the staff were all calm and kept everyone well-informed. I can't stress enough...cruises come with many unique challenges, but you get what you PAY for.
Sarah MacFee actually I just got back from carnival triumph and we left from New Orleans $380 for 4 days not bad. It was my first cruise I would definitely go back
Lol they all got a refund on the cruise plus $500 and theyre all being dramatic still. No one died they had suplies for food and water coming in, if you dont want shit like that to happen dont ride carnival because their ships are known for being kinda shitty its why theyre so cheap you get what you pay for. and i like how they compared this to the Titanic even tho everyone died on that ship and no one died on this ship
Ok. While everyone is running up to the top deck to watch the initial billows of smoke, I would be running down to the restaurant hoarding bags and bags of food and water. Hopefully this would go unnoticed. I would make several trips. Then later, I would sell it for a very high price. 1 dinner roll -$5.00.
Yeah I'd be pretty freaked out too. No electricity and limited food is one thing but not being able to use the bathroom and flush? I'd starve and entertain myself in the dark but let me flush without worry lol.
