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Troubleshooting Sur Ron Bike - Bike Power is Functional but Zero Throttle Engagement 

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In this video we are going to walk you through a common problem
when trouble shooting your Sur Ron bike. A common is the lack of
throttle engagement when the power is turned on for your Sur Ron bike.
When you open the bike, everything seems to be working perfectly fine.
The battery, bike and horn but there is no throttle with the bike.
Many forums claim that you should change controllers, or perhaps
you should unplug the tilt, brake or kick stand sensors. Others
claim that you should change the controllers. In certain cases, the controllers
or sensors could be the issue but in this scenario, this was not the case.
In our scenario, we tried the above and when that didn't work, we figured out that the electronic throttle is faulty and we will show you how to replace the throttle.
Steps:
1) Make sure bike is powered off and flip breaker to off position
2) Disconnect 6 pin controller wires and high voltage wires
3) Remove throttle, cut zip ties, remove Sur Ron cable management tie
4) Remove bolt that holds throttle into frame
5) Remove the bolts on the bash guard so that it can disconnect from the bike
6) Remove 4mm bolt so that you can remove the throttle wire out
7) Install new throttle and all the bolts that were removed
and reconnect throttle to the bike
8) Reconnect high voltage wires
9) Put brakers on
And you are all set!!!
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Комментарии : 101   
@victorantoniollanosllanos9500
@victorantoniollanosllanos9500 2 года назад
Nice, simple, to the point. Awesome video fellas.
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 2 года назад
Thanks Victor!
@gordondeitz7838
@gordondeitz7838 3 года назад
Tks. I'm witching everything I can get my hands on about the bike as I save up to get mine,
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
We have two locations to serve you better. Come visit us in Vaughan or Toronto
@leapoldstotch4987
@leapoldstotch4987 2 года назад
Same !! 👍👊
@travismacmillan8006
@travismacmillan8006 3 года назад
Would love to meter the wires on the old throttle to see what is wrong with it. You guy's are awesome keep it up and I did receive my Sur Ron last week I have put 58 km on so far :)
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Travis thank you so much. We hope you learned from the video and are enjoying your Sur Ron. We will take your point into consideration for a future video.
@xboxice2005
@xboxice2005 3 года назад
@@epiccycles9 Any advantage to using E throttle. :) i have one but haven't installed it yet.
@supportdepartment7684
@supportdepartment7684 3 года назад
@@xboxice2005 Hi Junior, the benefit to using a drive-by wire electronic throttle is it is simplified and much easier to swap out. The old mechanical throttle cable is more complicated employing a steel cable from the grip throttle, and then the cable goes down to another accelerator unit, then that unit plugs into the controller wiring.
@jdsass8575
@jdsass8575 Год назад
So trying to rebuild one (for fun/out of stock)...I am trying to replace the hall effect sensor 49E with my D+ electronic skills. If anyone has any references, let me know!
@TKmotivation-
@TKmotivation- 2 года назад
subscribed. thanks for this video!
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 2 года назад
Thanks Tim!
@martyncoburn1681
@martyncoburn1681 2 года назад
Hi I've just got a sor ron youth bike and there is a delay in the throttle do you know how I can fix it
@delatoyahotoya5393
@delatoyahotoya5393 2 года назад
Good job! Thx bro
@tristanryan744
@tristanryan744 Год назад
So I put on a new throttle and still nothing any ideas?
@aaaa1953
@aaaa1953 Год назад
But guys, what if you have an older Sur-ron with mechanical throttle cable? Could it have another switch that goes faulty?
@laarsn-9432
@laarsn-9432 2 года назад
Hello, I'm Renaud and i'm building my own batterry for Sur-Ron Street Legal with Sintech Controller and i plan to keep the original screen and connector to battery. According to the wiring diagram there is 2 wires flagged as "COM" the first one, the purple one, is not connected to battery BMS so i suspect this is for diagnostic/programming. The second one is blue/black can you have the information about what is it for? how it is connected to BMS (UART COM RX? TX?)? and is that a "must have" cable or can i delete it from my new BMS?
@nagelmotox284
@nagelmotox284 9 месяцев назад
Is COVID in the warehouse? 😅 glad your safe
@fernandoae
@fernandoae 7 месяцев назад
Do you have the schematics of the bike? what is te max power on the 12v line (for more lights)? sorry for my bad english
@Bawsack121
@Bawsack121 Год назад
My battery display doesn’t work, any help?
@06chino
@06chino Год назад
my breaker won’t switch back on, what do i do?
@bigkick86
@bigkick86 21 час назад
Can the throttle get burnt out if too much voltage went in the the bike? Say..120v but bike turns on (all accessories works) but wont GO!.
@johnnyzee383
@johnnyzee383 3 года назад
Im waiting for mine ( I ordered from Ebikzilla) but would have ordered from you guys has I known you were selling these. You could have diagnosed the issue by using your best friend, a Multimeter...I would have spliced into the wiring harness just enough to see if I was getting voltage and/or a difference in the resistance when I twisted the throttle instead of disconnecting all the throttle shut off sensors.
@alecnelson3000
@alecnelson3000 Год назад
Except the other sensors are a nuisance and only in place for legal reasons. They should be removed from every new Sur Ron with the exception of MAYBE the crash sensor. Everything else can be replaced by rider skill and experience.
@Tonyplat98
@Tonyplat98 Год назад
You do know there's an easier method to diagnose this right? These bikes come with diagnostic cable.
@jondoe6618
@jondoe6618 2 года назад
Does the talaria have the same issues? Mine is really slow. Like 1/2 throttle at best.
@king49334
@king49334 Год назад
cut the brown loop wire
@bradcaamano4566
@bradcaamano4566 3 года назад
i saw that it wasn't fully working after you put the new one in like you twisted the throttle and nothing happened. did you find out why its happening to my bike aswell
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Hi Brad, in our case the throttle was working, our tech was just holding the brake at that moment in the video which acts a s a motor cut off, but there were no issues. If you are experiencing issues with your throttle not engaging right away perhaps you simply need to change your throttle, but could also be an issue with the controller acting up.
@outoffashionn
@outoffashionn Год назад
Hi I need help my Sur Ron was recently cutting out when I fully throttled it and now the throttle won’t work I have a bac 4000 on a x160
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 Год назад
Hello, Please give us a call at 647-715-9000‎ and one of our service technicians will be able to assist.
@chad3957
@chad3957 Год назад
My surron is 2 days old is doing the same thing the diagnostic wire light stays on went through all the sensors do u think it’s the throttle or the controller how did u tell it was a throttle needed ?
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 Год назад
Hello, please give us a call at 647-715-9000‎ and one of our mechanics would be happy to assist.
@LorenzoNocera
@LorenzoNocera Месяц назад
Please help me When my batterie is at 89% my surron stop and I have error 119
@gomessparky
@gomessparky Год назад
Hello guys , by any chance do you know if its possible to change a Sur ron L1e headlight for a Sur ron x OffRoad headlight (plug and play) ? im thinking on getting a street legal Sur ron but im not a big fan of the headlight so i been looking if its possible to change it but got no info on the subject yet.
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 Год назад
Hello - we have not yet done any modifications to the headlight to be able to answer this for you. If you are in Canada - no modification can be done to a Surron to make it street legal.
@mjbakker8403
@mjbakker8403 2 месяца назад
yes you can i also have done it to my l1e
@Tony_Seed
@Tony_Seed 3 года назад
Why would you change the controller before the throttle ?
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
This was part of our process of elimination to rule out the controller first, which is the more expensive part. We wanted to confirm it was not the controller.
@Bawsack121
@Bawsack121 Год назад
My battery doesn’t display anything on the screen, how do I fix this?
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 Год назад
We would suggest that you reach out to your local Ebike repair shop for further diagnoses.
@ErtiaAirsoft
@ErtiaAirsoft Год назад
I was riding normal, stopped at a red light and had no throttle when light turned green. Bike has 995 miles. Plugged in the diagnostic tool and it doesn’t light up at all
@emmettsimmons6162
@emmettsimmons6162 Год назад
I’m having the same problem now, throttle didn’t fix it.
@juniorotero9030
@juniorotero9030 9 месяцев назад
Have you guys had any luck ??
@emmettsimmons6162
@emmettsimmons6162 9 месяцев назад
@@juniorotero9030not yet, I think I might have to get a controller, pretty much rules out motor and throttle.
@juniorotero9030
@juniorotero9030 9 месяцев назад
@@emmettsimmons6162 ahh that sucks I haven’t been able to fix mine either I have power all around and throttle works sometimes but it cuts out of nowhere and stops working
@solamartin
@solamartin 2 года назад
Dear all, my throttle wont respond. I have P1 then E3 error code displayed. I can't find what is the reason of that erros on whole internet
@baSTYLEcrobag
@baSTYLEcrobag 2 года назад
P1E3 is the number of the software-version that’s on that bike. Errormessages are shown on the right side of the display beginning with „er-“ followed by a three digit number. Example given: „er-224“ -> sidestand is still down
@Uli2000Ger
@Uli2000Ger 2 года назад
@@baSTYLEcrobag P1 stands for Break Sensor active, P0 for not active. E2 stand Rekuperation Step 2 .
@Ishment
@Ishment 2 года назад
So I followed every step of this to the T. My throttle works for about 4 seconds and then cuts out again. I unhooked everything, reinstalled it, and now I have a blinking red light on the power cable. It blinks 15 times, pauses, and blinks another 15 times. Apparently that’s a short circuit from the throttle cable to the controller? How do I fix that? Do I just get a whole new throttle? Or do I have to calibrate the one I have somehow?
@Onewheelken
@Onewheelken Год назад
Did you figure it out , this just happened to me need help
@Fenmore50
@Fenmore50 10 месяцев назад
Im getting a “motor controller power tube error. Contact after sales to fix the issue and restart electric lock” any ideas wtf to do? I unhooked all sensors and I replaced the throttle assembly and still won’t move. Everything lights up and turns on like it should
@juniorotero9030
@juniorotero9030 9 месяцев назад
@@Fenmore50have you figured out the problem I did the same thing to mine un hooked the stand sensor and the tilt sensor but still nothing zero throttle
@Fenmore50
@Fenmore50 9 месяцев назад
@@juniorotero9030 yes my controller was fried. 16 miles on it. What a POS
@satellitehunter7440
@satellitehunter7440 9 месяцев назад
Same problem here. Has anyone fixed the bike yet? I’m really hoping it’s not the controller
@hunteraff5872
@hunteraff5872 Год назад
My bike would launch and then shut off after. Like the throttle works until a millisecond after
@jaymebrapmx
@jaymebrapmx Год назад
YES!! SAME PROBLEM
@traceypotts9425
@traceypotts9425 3 года назад
Why not upgrade the throttle off there dodgy why put the same one on that gives the same problems m
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Sur ron the manufacturer updated the throttle from a more complex version to a plug and play style, which makes it easier to swap out if there are any faults.
@stevetremblett5261
@stevetremblett5261 3 года назад
That looks suspiciously like my bike originally ? Was that the problem ?
@supportdepartment7684
@supportdepartment7684 3 года назад
Hi Steve, yes that was your bike. After diagnosing it was the throttle that was faulty. We swapped it out and voila, works!
@stevetremblett5261
@stevetremblett5261 3 года назад
Well ! Epic cycles in whole did an amazing job taking care of this customer ! Great team you have ! I’ll be back guaranteed !! Thanks for everything !!
@jacobsmith6428
@jacobsmith6428 2 года назад
Which sur Ron is this
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 2 года назад
Sur-Ron Light Bee X
@pinibikes
@pinibikes 17 дней назад
I have the same problem
@jondonut1810
@jondonut1810 3 года назад
Front brake hose way to long
@traceypotts9425
@traceypotts9425 3 года назад
Why are you making it look so hard when it isn't all fingers and thumbs
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
The video was created to show the actual process. It may seem hard for some and easier for others
@kianward5999
@kianward5999 Год назад
stunning content guys amazing stuff new sub from me cheers guys amazing content👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@OneOfDaKine82
@OneOfDaKine82 2 года назад
Is it possible to put the throttle on the left side?
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 2 года назад
You would run in to issues with the spacing of the brake lever, as well, the throttle would now be backwards. Therefore it would not be suggested! Hope this helps Harrison
@alecnelson3000
@alecnelson3000 Год назад
But like, why though?
@Zottelpanda
@Zottelpanda Год назад
Thanks for showing how to exchange the throttle. Maybe also rename the video to "how to exchange the throttle" because you didn't really troubleshoot...
@dylsquire5521
@dylsquire5521 Год назад
Thank you
@laryangel4082
@laryangel4082 3 года назад
Ok
@Hojjiifp
@Hojjiifp 3 года назад
The bike good for tinkering...
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Some people enjoying tinkering with their bikes :)
@theskyreaper5258
@theskyreaper5258 3 года назад
Only problem I have now is getting a new throttle😁
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Why is that an issue :)
@theskyreaper5258
@theskyreaper5258 3 года назад
Because I live in Germany and at that time I didn't have one but now I fixed it :3
@dedeweinberg4481
@dedeweinberg4481 Год назад
Same smh
@oliverreynolds5049
@oliverreynolds5049 3 года назад
My throttle is cable and my bikes doing this
@demusmarcus8240
@demusmarcus8240 3 года назад
Mine cuts of randomly than works again after did you find out what your problem was
@slendermouse6918
@slendermouse6918 Год назад
@@demusmarcus8240 Hi, did you find the intermittent problem with your bike? I am trying to fix one that cuts out once in a while. Thank you :)
@demusmarcus8240
@demusmarcus8240 Год назад
@@slendermouse6918 im guessing its to do with the cell voltage dropping to mutch
@razoe8094
@razoe8094 Год назад
@@slendermouse6918 hello, did you manage to fix it? I got the same issue with mine
@razoe8094
@razoe8094 Год назад
@@demusmarcus8240 did you manage to fix it?
@V1C10US
@V1C10US 3 года назад
Set playback speed to 1.25. You're welcome.
@epiccycles9
@epiccycles9 3 года назад
Thank you!
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