WaheedQc He was about to invoke martial law, which seemed like a good idea to the majority at the time but in retrospect was a ridiculous overreaction to the actual threat posed by a small terrorist organization.
mcaddicts Absolutely true, and he needed to make a decision quickly to prevent further terrorist acts. I doubt I would have done much differently in his position. But most of the people they managed to round up during the time the War Measures Act was in force hadn't done anything wrong and there was never any indication that a full-on armed insurrection was afoot. Of course hindsight is 20/20 - it's easy for me to sit here fifty years later and say "oh Trudeau fucked up and didn't need to do that". Ultimately, he made the best decision he could with the time constraints and info he had at that time.
Madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a Trudeau utters a word, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land…
"There's a lot of bleeding hearts around... ...and all I can say is let them bleed". I don't know how "just watch me" became the bigger headline, that first quote is so much more iconic to me
“I think the society must take every means at its disposal to defend itself against the emergence of a parallel power which defies the elected power in this country and I think that goes to any distance. So long as there is a power in here which is challenging the elected representative of the people I think that power must be stopped and I think it's only, I repeat, weak-kneed bleeding hearts who are afraid to take these measures” - Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau
What most folks don't remember is that he was very arrogant, brash, articulate, gave the finger to the press a few times, brilliant and could deliver a speech. Generally, the press wasn't easy on him... hence the finger but he was my favourite. He opened the doors for Caribbeans (with a trade) to immigrate to Canada back in the day.
He was a politician like all the others. But, by his inner beliefs, I think that he steered Canada in the direction that we could all feel good in. Sure there is lots to criticize and provincial-federal tensions are a big part of that, but overall he did a lot for the country.
I don't think a Canadian politician since has come close. I've despised Mulroney and didni't think much of Clark or Harper, and no other Liberal has really come close. Yeah PET was all that and you know I simply didn't care. PET was a proud Canadian and he wanted us to be separate from the US and have our own identity. There are times I really regret NAFTA (and despise what the PCs and Mulroney did to us) because it has made us BranchPlant USA. The minute that thing went into effect, $$$ and business departed Canada for Mexico and never came back.
@@robertarisz8464 provincial federal tensions weren't his fault. He just decided to open that can. The situation wouldn't have been better for Canada if he hadn't touched those issues.
Yeah, except that was a legitimate question. How much liberty do we sacrifice for security? Anyway, I'm not sure they were necessary at the time, but love him or hate him, Trudeau was a far better and more badass statesman than his son.
@@Argumemnon I mean, to be fair, Justin isn’t the worst leader out there; you have trump, Kim Jong un, and Xi Jinping just to name a few. He is more mediocre then anything else; not good enough to be one of the greats, but also not bad enough to get immediately voted out of office. Say what you will, but he has lasted 3 elections so far.
Too bad the reporters can't ask The Turd the same questions about civil liberties today...instead they ask him why he isn't hanging patriots. IF YOU LIVE IN CANADA YOU LIVE IN A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP
@@sparkymedic you have 14 comments on a RU-vid channel with less than 400 subscribers. You must have hundreds more elsewhere. How fucking sad must you be to be trolling on a small youtube channel?
Yeah... He liked canoes... Totally makes up for how he totally screwed over this country. (I lent my HogTieChamp Google Plus account to my 70-year-old Albertan dad so he could type that comment.)
@@Sernival Storming a legislative building, fighting with cops, shouting to hang the vice president with a gallows and noose outside. Oh, and several members of a far-right militia, the self-proclaimed "Oath Keepers", being charged with sedition over their actions on January 6, 2021. Very normal behavior, not an insurrection, no sir. All above board. This is completely normal and acceptable behavior somehow.
You mean the fellows that were invited and escorted into the Capitol then locked away in solitary confinment for over a year now without trial....yeah we need more of that /rolls eyes...
For the first time in Canadian history there was a shooting that happened in the parliament. You think Harper is going to do the same as what Trudeau did in 1970? Canadians have never seen such an awful terrorist attack like the mailbox bombings that occured until 1970. And as for the parliament building in Ottawa, that shooting was the worst thing to happen in the parliament since it got burned in fire (except for the library).
The difference is that a cabinet minister was kidnapped and was missing and a known terrorist group was actively carrying out activities. With the shooting at parliament, they dealt with all known parties and so they had no reason to instate martial law.
No one should have to use violent means to effect change in the era of the camera phone. If these "lofty" elite MP's were to receive plain manila envelopes at their homes containing 8x10 glossy photos of their beloved family members living their lives - oblivious that they are being surreptitiously watched - it may make them think twice before enacting totalitarian "decrees" that place onerous burdens on their constituents... and next-door neighbors.
You're forgetting Macdonald and Diefenbaker, but yeah, the guy was an intellectual giant. In retrospect, we can say the WMA was an overreaction, but it was TEMPORARY and applied in an emergency in a way that our current system is not. To be sure, I think we should question the long-term effects of this, but that may be just me going "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc" with respect to the state of civil liberties in Canada.
answering the question of how far he would go to stop the terrorists with "Just watch me"......unlike the crap you hear from Obama or Bush etc...he said it well and like a boss.THAT'S a man with brains and balls!
Trudeau was polarizing--people either loved him or hated him. Looking back, I have to say, despite not always agreeing with him, he was the last honest politician Canada had. He didn't hide behind lies, nor did he agree to represent something he loathed to get elected. (Case in point, the death penalty issue). Wish we had someone who was that 'in your face' honest now, instead of the scum in the House of Commons and Senate.
This reminds me of a comment by one Rex Murphy on Trudeau, which, I believe, was that in this age of cowardly polls and cozy focus groups, we need look no further than this man to learn that convictions can be set in bedrock and that adherence to principle is the most enduring charisma. Yes, when Mr. Trudeau left us, Rex simply summed it up : "He has gone to his grace, and that leaves so much less of ours". Thank you, Mr. Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
Pierre was a great and charismatic leader, a brilliant man with many accomplishments. He notably stood up to the US concerning Vietnam and Cuba. He invited tens of thousands of American war resisters to come to Canada, He made friends with Castro and established a strong relationship with the country at a time the US was trying to hurt or kill Castro. His son, Justin, 36 years after his father left office, has been a great disappointment, following the US line in almost all of foreign affairs and displaying little independence of thought. The apple does indeed sometimes fall far from the tree.
Justin is not his father's son, and I didn't believe it during the election, either. He seemed like a nice guy, but post-election, Justin is just a fresh-faced smiling asshole imposing tyranny on Canadians.
@@sparkymedic Why? Because as I remember him he stood up for Canada. He tried to prevent hostile takeovers of Canadian companies who would then become a shell of their former selves. He didnt want Canada to become BranchPlant USA, so he didn't want NAFTA. After having lived with it for almost 30 years, we are in fact BranchPlant USA. He could skewer his opponents with a verbal jab that is still remembered today. He wouldn't let Quebec nationalism tear this country apart, despite Rene Levesque. And I always felt he loved this country as a whole which is something I don't really sense from Mulroney, Kenney, Ford or any other contemporary politician. They're only looking at their patch.
@@imisstoronto3121 you do know he put his own "Charter of Rights and Freedoms" out before the one we have (had?) and it fialed the constitution test, right? His name shouldn't be on the current one. The First ministers who wrote it should all have their names on it...Not, The Turd Sr. He negotiated with the FLQ and set them free in Cuba.
@@sparkymedic I don't recall any other PM doing anything about it. Diefenbaker SAF didn't, Pearson no, no other leader made the effort and I dont see how that is a crime. Or is that just something that still really bothers you?
@@Thicc_Cheese_Dip shhh its only ballsy if you tell the Left Leaning folks to "fuck off" if you say it to entitled rightwingers all of a sudden "you're a tyrant"
If you really believe in the wisdom of this man you have to believe also that old Trudeau would have known that our world now and our challenges are far more complex than his time and he will not judge his son the way you think he would or he should.
@@alvindurochermtl With the hindsight of over 50 years I can say that Sr was an actor...just like Jr. They were/are both actors hired to play a role. That's all.
Trudeau had three kids (Michel, Alexandre and Justin), two of which are still alive (Alexandre and Justin) and one of which might be Canada's next prime minister (Justin Trudeau), that is if he wins the Liberal Leadership election AND the Liberals miraculously become the governing party by the end of the decade.
@@cherrytreepermaculture756 if only I bet money 8 years ago. Now I predict the cons will get back into power the way they did with Mulroney. Only Pierre poilievre will be Prime Minister. Erin o’toole never stood a chance. And Candace Bergen is not 24 steps ahead like poilievre. She’s 14 steps ahead not good enough to be pm.
@@jetblach You may be right. Historically our country tacks left for a few years, then tacks right, thereby showing the effectiveness of our always evolving democracy. I do have a feeling that you may see a split in the conservative party soon, as the PC types disavow the Reform/Wexit/QAnon types.
@@cherrytreepermaculture756 Isn't that basically what the PPC is at this point? Happy that PPC exists though because at least those lunatics aren't spending their time manipulating the conservative party into becoming a homophobic maniac train like what happened to the republican party in the US.
Haha!! I was waiting-for you to bring-up that-point XD This isn't my main-channel. In-fact it's my Quaternary!! >:D The-besides, I made-it WAAAYYYYY! BEFORE KNOWING I'D HAVE A-conversation with-you -_- XD
Dave Matheson Really? So you didn't agree with his wanting to keep Quebec as part of Canada, his pride in Canada being different from the U.S., his changing the constitution of Canada, finally giving Canada sovereignty from the U.K., the charter of rights and freedoms, the way he faced challenges, his knowledge of foreign affairs, his respect of other cultures, his multi-lingualism, his emphasis on trade, ... I agree with all of those things. To each his own.
+BayviewFinch many hardcore conservatives (harper cons) still think he is a communist/socialist. its actually suprising how many people i have seen think this.
it's funny how he says there's alot of bleeding hearts around, he's right, but they are usually the ones who vote liberal ....and of course they vote NDP as well .....this was such a great interview no matter what your political views are ...... anyone know if there is the full 5 - 10 minute interview on RU-vid? i caqn't seem to find it.
and your point was? in his bio is says how he did have faith but expressed it outwardly as he wanted,not the fake stance you see in world leaders ,especially of those today.the man was a great politician.not many leaders leave such a legacy
