truth is, you created him. 

The two exceptions is Harvey dent, and joker of course all of his accounts end with encountering the dark knight and ending up in a pit of chemicals, and realizing life is a big joke

@@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 - In the DCAU, Harvey Dent was already mentally ill and had his "Big Bad Harv" persona way before he got scarred in that explosion. And as we've seen in *"Mask of the Phantasm"* , Joker was already a cold-blooded killer waaay before he encountered Batman, it wasn't like *"the Killing Joke"* in which he was a relatively harmless dude who was in over his head with mobsters who threatened him if he didn't do what they say after he tried to get out of the job.

hello JJOOOOSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

@@randallflagg3700 When Batman's identity was leaked by Hugo strange later on, Two-Face was in shock because he couldn't see his best friend also being his worst enemy. While Joker doesn't WANT to know who Batman is and typically just enjoys their cycle instead of trying to end it. I don't think either of them would have cared enough to unmask him

Well the DCAU’s joker doesn’t really care much about Batman’s identity one way or the other. When he discovers it in Return of the Joker it doesn’t ruin anything for him. He just rolls with it as something he finds funny.

No kidding

That line always kills me😂😂

@@samwilsoncaptainamerica233 how are you still alive?

@@voidling2632 Lazarus pit

That, and how he closed out the trial by quoting Porky Pig: [stuttering] That's all, folks!

Honestly I wish more stories would play with this concept, where batman is technically working within the law but also addressing the restrictions that puts on his usual MO

@@maverickdarkrath4780 it's something Dennis O'Neil disagreed with, so it went out the door..anything that would resemble Adam West in any way; there's a couple of generations of people working on Batman comics who hated the Adam West show and anything to do with it, including Batgirl.

@@josephadorno92 damn what is it with comic book writers and being petty

There was a story where Batman and Robin were playing on the police side of the police vs firefighters annual baseball game, because they’re honorary GCPD members

@@thrawnnoconnection6931 without that recognition, he really would have a tough time in Gotham as a vigilante, and so would the GCPD; the Bat-Phone is actually a more discreet means of communication than the Bat-signal, but since the phone is linked with Adam West, that's verboten in Batman "canon".

Step-child says : " You are not my dad ". Dead-beat step-dad agrees by saying : " You are not my child ".

yeah this is why I love the ending of the dark knight returns (before those sequel comics fucked in up) and that one what if episode of batman brave and the bold. because they give Bruce an ending and retire as batman, not because of tragedy and it's not him giving up on his life mission, but because he truly has found people he is willing to pass on his mantle & continue his mission for him because he trusts them.

@@christopherauzenne5023 I had no idea any sequel comics even existed until this moment.

Wait, the Batman animated dies? I haven’t seen the show in awhile I don’t remember that

@@roughfoxy101 No, but he is very elderly in the epilogue, and probably doesn't have too much time left.

@@Quirderph Oohh, I thought they meant The Batman 2004

But at the end of the day its their choice to keep doing these things. Like when Sandman and Spidey fought for the last time, he told him he wastes his powers for his own selfish gain and could do something better, but he doesnt. Or at least until the end of the episode where he saved those people. Point is, they choose to keep doing what they do. Escalation is only avoidable when the bad guys accept what they are doing is wrong.

Manga: Can't relate

It's mainly because people like the villains. They're interesting and sympathetic, but not blameless, and that nuance is what makes them so interesting as villains. The situation is never entirely black or white.

Its why I can never take the idea that batman is creating villains seriously, and that somehow they are the victims and are faultless, I mean sure he can't and won't kill the Joker or anyone because he respects the law enough to help them out and he knows villains are humans too. Its like everyone is either on the side of "just kill them" or "Batman should just stop because he is opressive" when the circumstances taken outside of the most biased stories clearly show that these villains refuse to change despite even Batman's best efforts.

@@kennethsatria6607 For the matter of the argument that, "Batman should just kill the supervillains", why is the responsibility being pushed onto Batman? Should that not be up to the state, or the justice system of Gotham City? Does the state that Gotham City is located in even have the Death Penalty?

​@@kennethsatria6607I 100% agree I'm on the side batman should never kill and try rehabilitate his villain but in these arguments everyone seems to neglect the villains need to take responsibility for themselves and you can't put the full blame on batman as if he caused the situation

​@@kennethsatria6607Agreed, Gotham did this to itself, in a city full of crime and corruption if batman didn't show up someone like redhood or punisher would have.

@@samwilsoncaptainamerica233Frank would have a field day with Gotham city perfect war

Goddd thissss. I saw this episode a few weeks ago and I love it so much. Superman and Vandal working together and Vandal still being vandal but having. Thousands of years to look back on his choice. It's so much

I want this to happen so much.

sad thing is, Bruce did leave the playground. Unfortunately, Batman had to come back to it. Just with a different avenger wearing the cowl. Thankfully, though, it seems like the new one will be able to avoid the missteps that the first Batman made which lead to his life being miserable.

"Almost Got 'Em" is another fantastic episode because of the point of views for the story.

There will never be a time when people are not going to break the law and hurt others and as long as that holds true the mission never ends. Because of that there is no "end" for Batman that is not death.

@@kintsuki99 Despite all the people he's raised and trained specifically to do the the mission. Batman isn't trapped because there is wrong in the world, he's trapped because of his obsession and need for total control.

@@thacobell4700 It's less about control and more about him using a very helpful yet insane method to cope with him still being an 8 year old boy trying to save his parents deep down. It can never end because yes crime is just part of society and civilization but because he is stuck in that alley unable to grow up or heal. He is a character very much the victim of his own trauma and pathology but uses it in a helpful yet self destructive way.

@@taliawtf6944 Because HE needs to exert his control over it. He never wants to be the powerless boy again, so HE has to be strong. He's raised na entire bat family to do this mission, but he refuses to retire because he can't relinquish control of the fight. No one else will ever be good enough in his eyes.

Honestly i think this series gave him the most perfect ending, he is so obsessed with fighting crime that he eventually pushed away every single one of his loved ones, ending up alone and old (until Terry appeared that is)

Other way around this show came out before the movies

@@samwilsoncaptainamerica233 I was observing in retrospect; I wasn't saying Janet was inspired by Rachel - I was saying Janet is the only pre-existing character who comes close to resembling Rachel.

The thing is he uses the Bruce Wayne persona to fund charity and civil projects which works more against the petty criminals but Batman exists to deal with the unrepentant super criminals

You could also say that..he does do those things as well.

@@dkcsi9256 @lordinquisitor6233 i didn't mean it was an either or, just that people forget that literal monsters stalk the streets of gotham on a weekly basis

@@Morlock19 Yeah but I mean the people who you’re arguing with *are* going to think it’s either or lol They’ll go “But he’s beating up poor mentally disabled people in the streets and murdering them by tossing them through a comic-book-logic-wall! You can’t just ignore that!!”

@@dkcsi9256 and i'd just square up, look them in the eye, say "fuck yeah he does", put on some cool shades and walk away backwards flipping them off xD

Same

He claimed, “*there would be no Batman if there’s no supercriminals*”. Going by his renowned origin, Bruce Wayne’s parents were mugged and gunned down in a grimy alley by Joe Chill, an average crook in an already crime infested megalopolis. Bruce Wayne set out to become what he became because he vowed that he’d do anything and everything within his grasp to prevent the events that took his parents from ever repeating themselves; a random act of violence by a dime a dozen criminal. Additionally, the symbiotic relationship that Batman shares with his rogues would still exist if flamboyantly decorated characters like The Joker and The Riddler were permanently replaced by the likes of Carmine Falcone and Sal Maroni - though maybe not as on the nose as we know it to be. I reckon that as long as there is crime, there will always be a warranted degree for vigilantism (i.e. just look at how Uvalde’s PD expertly handled their proceedings and note that the US Supreme Court has ruled that law enforcement is not required to serve its denizens). This video was blatantly off the fucking mark, and “Implicitly Pretentious”’s username unironically does checkout. And for the majority, I surmise that the kangaroo court episode was self-explanatory. TLDR: If Gotham were without “supercriminals”, Bruce Wayne would still be Batman because the man that murdered his parents was no supercriminal.

Especially since his one rule is no killing, you'd be surprised by what you could live through

That's where I've always seen room for the Bruce Wayne persona to come in. Yes, Batman intentionally plays up the differences between himself and Bruce to reinforce the disguise, but there's still room for Bruce to push against corruption in the Gotham police and justice departments. And generally, he's shown doing that. People always ask why Batman doesn't kill the Joker, but the answer simply comes down to the fact that he doesn't trust himself to be able to stop killing villains. He believes the Joker deserves to die, but some criminals, especially ones like the Ventriloquist or Two-Face are mentally unwell and need treatment. If he killed the Joker, he'd look at someone like Black Mask and think that, while they're not as bad as the Joker, they're pretty close, and kill them. Then he'd find another criminal that's a little less worse than Black Mask and kill them, and so on and so on. He's worried that the moment he makes killing an option, he won't be able to keep it as only a last resort. And then he'd become no better than the criminals he fights.

@@HSuper_LeeSort of like the concept of the Justice Lords or the Injustice series if he actually joined Superman and the Regime instead of opposing them. And Batman is right. He knows himself too well. That killing them is the point of no return and he is infamous for having incredible willpower, it’s almost superhuman in of itself. If only the law could properly take care of the people he has to catch night after night after night.

Sadly the "Future" is going to be much, much worse than the one from Batman Beyond.

That is what I assumed too. Batman would rather kill himself than let the joker disease turn him into another gang member who uses genetically modified off-spring to do his dirty work for him . Even Terry was smart enough to not play that mind-game with the Joker clone as he laughed back at him.

Batman Beyond is the " Yu-Gi-Oh GX " of the Batman universe .