TRUTH REVEALED HERTZ vs DIAMOND AUDIO SPEAKERS & AMPS FOR YOUR HARLEY DAVIDSON 

Thank you, We appreciate the Compliment and look foreword to doing business with you and your friends.

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Thank you, let us know if we can help 702-335-0000

Thank you for your continued business Ray

That's Awesome, now lets get those PRV's out & Diamond Audio in !!!

Thanks for sharing

When the M185 becomes available to be sold we will post a video on it.

YES, Call us at 702-335-0000 and we will put together a package for you, MO75T Horns are running very low with inventory just so you are aware. Thank you

Lots, please message me directly vegas.paul99@gmail.com Thank you

Yes they are!

How about 10's in your Bags? Woofers Included www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/aggressor-pro-100-left-right-1998-up-harley-2-includes-2-diamond-ds102

We have plenty of MPX 690.3 & MPX 165.3

Yes it is !!

Correct, if you are using a DSP and tuned correctly you do not need to use the crossovers on the Horn's, however on the flip side of that coin still using the crossovers does add extra protection for the horns and in some applications we still continue to use the crossovers especially for out of state bike installs we do for the extra protection.

@@702motoringlasvegas4 yeah. For extra safety on customer bikes where you can’t trust people to leave the tune the hell alone I agree.

Hello - Here is the link, Thank you www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/2015-2020-harley-road-glide-diamond-audio-pro-speaker-kit-includes-mo75t-horns

Beyond expectations / working on a video with real time musical differences with the New MP Speaker Line

They are both comparable, Diamond Audio MSPRO65 we feel is Louder and a stronger speaker and between the two Hertz will fail first due to the design and lack of cooling port on the rear of the magnet.

To be honest we do not know - we have never done one, what are others using?

Appreciate your input

yeah me to, I have a Diamond Audio(DA) D5 300.2 amp that used to power some subs when I was a kid and now they'll be powering the Hertz MLK 165P.3 I just bought. I used to have Diamond component speakers and 6x9's years ago but I blew all of them. The subs lasted but I was only feeding them half of their RMS although I probably clipped them an hour everyday for years.

Very nice!

Awesome, Thank you

Please contact us at 702-335-0000

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Yes, We apologize for the delay in responding

We offer this only with the Grill, Horn & there is a special mount custom fabricated that is not visible on the inside of the grill.

How are you mounting the diamond audio mspro65 in the 14-20 road glide upper fairing speaker pods? Did you mold the speaker pods with a heat gun or cut a hole in the pods?

Keith Bell We do not recommend heating the enclosure as that will still distort the basket to the Diamond Audio Mid and will prevent it to achieve maximum performance that you want, we cut a hole in the correct position and use some sound deadening material to cover the hole and all is good

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Thanks for the response.

@@Mr.Bell229 Glad to Help

We do not let ourselves as a business be controlled by the brands we sell - we have been doing this for 30+ years - new dealers tend to be the ones more controlled by the manufactures - we show and explain information about the brands we carry or may be out there that we may not carry to what we feel is truthful- we do not do business that involves deception

Gin ngo, that sounds like a threat! Lol seriously though.. even with Hertz SPL Show neo coaxials, another shop video that claims to love Hertz says he doesn't care for the tweeter. You're gonna call his distributor also??? Let these people tell the truth. Geez

@@bosshawg7427 that wasn't my point. Obviously all salesman & consumers have their entitled opinion. Hearing is subjective like taste buds. What I am saying is I wouldn't be putting out a video trashing a brand I represent. Enjoy the 📢🔉🔊🎵🎶🎼

I'll put something in perspective for you as I have no stake in either brand, but to me, I find Hertz products to be overpriced for what they are... significantly overpriced! Although they are far from bottom of the barrel, they surely aren't worth the coin when compared to some others. I've personally used a set of High Energy 6.5 and found them to be less than flattering. The voicing wasn't great like a JBL product and the sensitivity was highly inflated under testing. They rated sensitivity by the tweeter which had a poor crossover applied and not enough if at all resistors to bring the level down. If you look at the graph of say, the neo SPL show 6.5 coaxial you'll see what I mean. For that kind of money I would expect better considering other companies like Ground Zero, Diamond, and a few others offer a better package for the same or less cost. Even in their HDP amplifiers it is known to use clone boards that other less than stellar companies use like Soundstream & PPI. That's not something I expect from such a brand that many hail as an upper tier.

@@702motoringlasvegas4 i wish there was more shops around that could say that "We do not let ourselves as a business be controlled by the brands we sell" Good for you!

Yes, it is imperative, see this link so you will know the specific reasoning rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215

Yes, But in no way are they a necessity as others may suggest.

I'm talking about the Diamond Audio..thanks

@@EzlivnMaine Here is a list of Dealers who flash rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344

Sure now, several years later

It depends which exact model numbers you are looking at - no two items between the lines are identical - there are major differences

Water Resistant, if purchased from 702 Motoring you will receive a 3 Year Warranty that covers water damage 702-335-0000

Nothing electrical is ever 100% water proof. Don't let a sales pitch from a salesman confuse common sense or science.

Steve Newcomb We do not have a 2ohm version, it’s hard to say using a baffle - sometimes they help and sometimes they do not , most of the time they do not our experience

Here you go, www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/2014-2020-harley-street-glide-diamond-audio-pro-speaker-kit-includes-mo75t-horns

We do not recall if they were released at that time or shortly afterwards, however that would not have affected the Video's Information, the video does not address ease of fitment on Harley's it addresses aggressiveness and ruggedness along with Sound Quality of the two speaker brands - addressing the NEO Series would just shown a series of speakers that Fail at a faster rate then even the SV165.1 due to their lack of strength to handle the constant usage of demanding users.

12 G Wire is slightly excessive but it will work, what other speaker are you wanting to also run with them?

@@702motoringlasvegas4 I’m running PVR and Hertz 8”

@@702motoringlasvegas4 whoops 14ga not 12ga running 12ga on the 8”

I’m going to be running in parallel with 14awg for horns. So I was told a butt plug 1 out 2 in out like an upside down Y

In the grills like shown below www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/98-13-road-glide-pro-speaker-fairing-kit-hertz-sv-165-1-st25-american-hard-bag

OR - Our Newest www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/98-13-road-glide-pro-speaker-fairing-kit-diamond-audio-mo75t-horns-crossovers

@@702motoringlasvegas4 ok nice!

Brake light Warranty Cerwin Vega B series amps use a completely different circuit board then the Diamond Amps, taking both apart side by side the differences are very noticeable

Man i talk to a dude at Diamond audio..... He said the amp are one in the same a lil different on the board but the exact same technology....... Same amp

Speaker companies use capacitors to block unwanted frequencies for better sound quality, less desegregation & damage. High frequency goes to tweeters. Middle frequency goes to mids ( full range ) lower frequency to subwoofers ( bass )

Simple -6db caps aren't enough in most cases. They either won't block enough bass, or they will cross higher than usual which can cause a hole in the response between mid and tweet. Basically, they're being cheap!

It varies for each manufacture, some just do it better than others.

Only if you do not want the Best Sound from your bike,

What location exactly is the ST35 installed?

@@702motoringlasvegas4 A Hertz ST35

We do sell Diamond Audio & Hertz, Everything in the Video is 100% Truthful & Honest

Coming from someone who has hertz spl show 6.5s and st35s installed on his bike…. They are indeed waterproof. I’ve washed my bike and directly sprayed water at them and turned them on after I finished washing the bike and worked flawlessly. Been on my bike for almost two years not one speaker blown and I play it loud and nothing but it.

@@Smaze1762 same here! Hertz all the way!

In our opinion Diamond Audio makes "One" of the Top of The Line Speakers currently available for Harley Davidson Motorcycles.

It is beyond belief

You may be referring to the MP654 speakers, regarding our video yes allot of it is our opinion, further backed up with physical proof that the eye can see, just a hole in a magnet you are correct does not necessary make it better but when you think about it it actually does as the speakers heat from the voice coil can vent help keep the speaker cooler, take a Harley Davidson, some are air cooled and some are liquid cooled, we all know what happens to the air cooled motors in heat in stop and go traffic, take the liquid cooled, they will keep going, so in reality there is a difference, regarding hearing the MSPRO65 Diamond Audio Mids you hear them on every bike we do, as that is all a customer will purchase these days, regarding using meters, etc to test each model, we will take that into consideration but in all honesty we will more than likely never use the time to do that test as Diamond Audio has so far exceeded what ever Hertz has or is doing that there no longer is any competition involved between the two brands, again, in our opinion.

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Thanks for the response. And yes I was referring to the MP654. I was just trying to be fancy and shorten the name. I don’t argue that DA is an amazing product. I also agree with you about some of the differences you pointed out. But in my opinion those are features that may help the longevity of the speaker and not necessarily its performance. But again I’m just throwing my 2 pennies. I still like DA and would run them in a heart beat. Good work with the videos. Keep them coming. Even though this one was controversial, it still provided information about what Diamond is doing. Can you please do a favor and do a quick video on the saddle bag quick disconnect. How they install and disconnect. does that center piece screw to the bad to seal the hole? I almost bought them from your site but there just wasn’t enough information. Thank you in advance

@@donalddavis7160 Quick disconnects is a video we intend to do in the near future - Thank you for your support

All Diamond Audio Speakers we sell are covered by a full one year warranty that covers any type of water contamination

M185 is in production and do not have a date available to be sold as of this morning

@@702motoringlasvegas4 has it come out yet?

@@Heavy69Metal Not yet

180 Watts RMS is WAY to much power, did you happen to review the specs on the horns? Hertz will not be any better, you can not abuse the horns and expect them to last

We have had zero issues with the tweeter bridge breaking or coming loose with the Diamonds, with the Hertz yes, the Diamond Audio Speakers are made for a more rugged environment then the Hertz not to mention the better sound quality with the Diamonds, the Coax Subs are on a 60 - 90 national back order, currently we have only one pair left in stock, the New Diamond Audio 6x9's the MP694's are in stock and quite a bit louder, see the link for that Speaker www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/diamond-audio-mp694-motorsport-series-6-x9-pro-full-range-co-ax-horn-speakers

We appreciate your reply, however Diamond Audio sounds better then Hertz speakers across the board in our opinion, Thank you

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We appreciate your reply, seems we have a couple of Hertz Guys responding the last few days, ol electromedia must sure be feeling the Hurt down there right about now. Ha Ha - But OK, let's get serious here and address your responses OK? (1) Hertz does not claim these are a "Motorcycle or Marine" speaker. That's Correct, sortove, regardless Diamond Audio DOES STAKE THAT CLAIM and in essence blows Herts away in clarity & loudness when used in Harley applications. (2) Also, back on the waterproof claim...THEY'RE NOT! They are water "RESISTANT" like the Hertz. YOU SURE ABOUT THAT????? MS69CX COAX SUBS WE BELIEVE IPX65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS To be the Real Deal, are you saying Diamond Audio is Lying? (3) They basically spray a coating on them similar to "Kiwi Camp Dry". You can do the same with ANY speaker / REALLY??? SO THEN WHEN DIAMOND AUDIO STATES MSPRO65 "MIDRANGE MANUFACTURED TO IP65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS / Are you saying Diamond Audio is Lying? We can go on and on, but you may want to stop while you are ahead, Hertz has lost this Battle & electromedia is feeling it.

YOU are comparing 2 different speaker types. Diamond audio 8 is a “MIDRANGE” speaker! Hertz 200L is a “WOOFER” anyone with any knowledge at all can look at both specifications and tell the difference PERIOD. I’m not a fan of either one. I’m just putting the REAL TRUTH out there for readers. The Diamond Audio 8” in fact does play louder because their sensitivity level is 100db. Hertz is 94.5db. Hertz plays lower and is called a “WOOFER” it’s NOT a “MIDRANGE” like the diamond. Anyone is way more than welcome to examine the specs on each of these speakers. No wonder the company you represent at 702 motoring in Las Vegas only has a 3.1 star rating.. WOW...

@@mayhemmodz9052 Ha Ha - OK< Let's try this a different way for the "Readers" as you say, Yes we are very aware that every subscriber to our 702 Motoring Las Vegas RU-vid Channel will read these messages from you along with every other curious potential customer of Hertz & Diamond Audio and that's OK, if we had something to hide we could simply delete your messages -BUT_ When you have the "Winning" Hand as we do there is no reason to try and hide, so your comments will stay up and be visible to the "readers" so are you ready? OK Lets Gooo Your 1st message to this RU-vid video was in reference to two specific points of interest (1) That the Hertz 200L which is actually a SV200L is a Woofer and not a Midrange like the Diamond Audio MSPRO8 (2) That the Diamond Audio Product shown was not Marine Grade or better known as IP65 Compliant and simply sprayed with some type of spray to make the product water resistant. Funny though that you never point out or discuss the other many, many Diamond Audio & Hertz comparisons. So since we have already stated we run a Honest and Ethical Retail & eCommerce business we will be honest in our responses to you Hertz SV200L is a Woofer and Yes Diamond Audio MSPRO8 is a MidRange we do not believe we stated anything different regarding this in the Video we posted comparing the two, we do find it interesting that you choose to single out this one Hertz Model, because this would be the ONLY item that is the closest to comparison with the Diamond Audio and this specific detailed information would pretty much be known to people who are very familiar with the products specifications, ie: connected to electromedia - for the readers who did not know who electromedia is this is the Parent company that owns Hertz & Addison Furthermore, You attacked Diamond Audio product stating it was no better than Hertz regarding withstanding the elements related to Harley usage because all that was used on Diamond Audio product was some type of spray, as shown in our last response to you that was FAKE NEWS - Your attempt to make Diamond Audio hold less value only backfired in your face as shown and Proven Diamond Audio is in fact IP65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS Any customer that has purchased Diamond Audio from 702 Motoring Las Vegas and has experienced any type of issue weather a true defect OR customer abuse has had their product exchanged - a very painless process - what does HERTZ do? let's just say you do not want me to get started with that information, heck that would make for a whole new video the hassle a customer will go threw to get a Hertz item warrantied or even a Dealer for that matter. Lastly, In closing, just like in Poker, never let them read you and you my friend revealed two tell tell signs in your last reply, (a) YOU STATED I’m not a fan of either one. REALLY - Then why do you know the specifics as you do and feel so compelled two twice now spend your time with these replies to the video and then why would you even say that if it was not exactly the opposite? trying to throw us off the scent? no way, we can smell a electromedia employee for a distance, promise. BUT WAIT, Theeeeeere is one more thing you did say - (b) YOU PERSONALLY ATTACK THE BUSINESS OF 702 MOTORING LAS VEGAS "No wonder the company you represent at 702 motoring in Las Vegas only has a 3.1 star rating.. WOW." That's coming from a person that is emotional over this specific issue and that my friend makes you a electromedia employee or someone very closely connected to the company. The ONLY reasoning for you and the other friendly fella is because you are attempting to stop the bleeding - Well guess what? I am hear to tell ya you have a Gusher Going On, you are in NO WAY GOING to stop what Diamond Audio has going - Your product is outdated, jeez, even DS18 is just as good as HERTZ at 1/2 the price The only improvement Hertz has made is put Neodymium magnets on OLD SPEAKERS, WOW what Product development you have going on there, putting yourself way out there, Ha Ha Friendly Competition, it's a great thing when you have the Winning Hand, guess what electromedia, you have not seen anything yet, WAIT - More is coming, we are actively testing it now, let Rob know 702 Motoring Las Vegas says Hi - "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?"

Your comment lacks intelligence, we do not carry either of those two brands you mentioned and they have zero relevance to this video we posted. so your point would be?

Well, The Hertz and the Diamond Audio we directly compared against is product designed for usage in Harley Motorcycles by both manufacturer, in this application Diamond Audio Out performs in every way 99% of the Hertz product shown in this video, lastly, Hertz is ALSO manafactured in CHINA - the company may be from Italy but I assure you the boxes clearly state from China

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Yeah i is common these days, amps are made in Korea and almost all other stuff is made in China. I also could not find a clear statement of diamond audio that it is "made in america"...But a lot of manufacturers produce everythin except their "high end" products from china and they almost have to if they want to compete with other brands and there is nothing wrong wwith that.

@@702motoringlasvegas4 ya the DA are Chinese too

We did not trash the hertz brand, we simply showed the difference from Diamond Audio vs Hertz that was available in the market place when this video was filmed on Feb 23rd, 2020 that clearly shows that the hertz brand did not even slightly stand up to the Diamond Audio brand at that time which is still True today, in the future there will be a Cicada comparison when their full product line is available in the US which at this time it is not and a comparison at this time with Cicada would not be a fair or ethical comparison.

Yes, we use them in cars, boats, etc

How are those mo75T I was thinking about getting a pair for my car how’s the Sound quality on them

Yes, Cerwin Vega along with Diamond Audio

@@702motoringlasvegas4 I spoke with one of the guys working on coming up with the sm65 several years back those guys are good at when they do he said he was with them for like 25 years or so real nice dude for sure I use a lot of those 2 brands bike is running hxm1100.6 and house has old school vs12's and van has zmax 15's

You are 100% WRONG, What we did was compare the Diamond Audio to the Hertz SPL Show and Mille Pro Line that was TOP OF THE LINE 1.5 Years ago when the Video was filmed, the specific speakers you mention where not even in existent at that time / Realistically it would have made zero difference, We will still make the same comparison, Taking a larger magnet off of a speaker and putting a way to small neodymium magnet in no way in our opinion makes a night and day difference, Guys using Harley Sound Systems traveling all over the States are running their systems hard, those baby magnets melt just as easily as the Rockford Harley Speaker Magnets, the less weight equals less than a gallon of gas and holds no value other than a selling feature people may use to sell the speaker, the bottom line is this, Diamond Audio product walks all over the Hertz product in sound quality, Level of Loudness and longevity, we may sell one set of HERTZ Speakers to every 200 Diamond Audio Setups and we sell allot of Diamond Audio on a daily Bases, you certainly have your right to your opinion but at this time we are Running Strong with Diamond Audio.

We disagree with your statement in it's entirety and in all fairness feel free to say which exact Model Number Hertz 6x9 and Horn you feel will , "eviscerate" Diamond Audio's Sound Quality !!

We are still waiting on your so called HERTZ Model numbers that will outperform Diamond Audio

I run the MPX PRO 690.3 6x9 and they out perform the Diamonds!!

@@Misty3133 The $309.99 Retail DIAMOND AUDIO MS69CX COAX SUB - out perform those 3 year old Mille Pro's you have not to even bring in the MP694 Coax Horn 6x9 - that will double the output of the Hertz speakers you are running now, clearly you have not tried a set.

@@Misty3133 How would you know? Put those Hertz up against the Diamond Audio MP694 and you will never use a hertz 6x9 again

HERTZ Products are no where close to the performance and output of a Diamond Audio Speaker, but at the end of the day it is your bike - you should do as you choose.

You Lost this so called super scientific explanations you attempted to provide - The Video stands and shows viewers the truth about all the product comparisons across the board, possibly one day you can get over just one single comparison and see the big picture

Yes, Yes it is !!

Yes, UV Treated

Negative, We are comparing exactly to what was in existence at the time the video was produced, there is NO DECEPTION within any of our videos

We have installed over 1000 DA Amps along with Plenty of the Competitors and nothing as you have described has ever occurred with us, matter of fact we have never even had a DOA Amp out of the box and out of the last two years have had two legitimate warranty returns on the amps.

100% in May everyone caught COVID and we where forced to shut down for three weeks

You are free to feel as you choose

Your reply it actually kinda funny, especially as you use our Statement "The loudest setup on planet Earth" and then refer to a cartoon. Tell you what we do know, Hundreds if not more of our Harley Customers Worldwide Know what it means when we say "LOUDEST SETUP ON PLANET EARTH" We know this from the messages we receive after their system we shipped to them and have been installed, We Pre-Tune amplifiers before shipment to their particular purchased system - These guys are LOUDER & CLEANER then all their friends and who are not their friends, time after time we have compared Diamond Audio against Hertz, Beyma, PRV, DS18, Focal & on and on it goes, OK, We will bite, go ahead and tell us what is Cleaner and Louder in a 14 & UP Street Glide or 15 & Up Road Glide using the factory location and a 4 Channel Amp? While you are 'Beaming" up that information as you put it tell us some more about the following comments of yours ? (1) Those cool looking fan blades on the DA don't really do anything. REALLY? HA HA - THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF HARLEY GUYS OUT THERE THAT WILL LAUGH IN YOUR FACE ABOUT THAT (2)The vents are debatable. But, for one thing, they ARE NOT typically designed for cooling / SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY ARE BETTER OR NOT / OK THEN (3) But, for one thing, they ARE NOT typically / YOU ARE RIGHT DIAMOND AUDIO CERTAINLY IS NOT TYPICAL - LIKE ALL THE OTHERS We invite you to come back for some more Diamond Audio abuse !!!

@@702motoringlasvegas4 I'm just commenting about certain parts of your vid. Your bias is clearly evident. Rather than make a vid of talking, just play them so we can hear what you believe is the better sound. --not typically means that if a speaker was designed with a vent specifically for cooling, then it would not by a typical, vented speaker. This could be good or bad. --I wasn't arguing that either brand is better. I was arguing against your logic/reasoning that you are the best and make the best and will be the best and we should all stoop to you. I couldn't care less about who laughs at me. I have so much more in life than some idiots riding Harley bikes who think I'm funny, when to me, they are being laughed at for what they are doing too. When i see these old guys riding bikes blasting Polk or whatever speakers, and usually some old rock that sounds like crap, I just laugh. So I suppose we are both being laughs at.

@@RobHTech You know what, whatever speaker a person has on his Harley or any other vehicle for that matter, if that person is in his own space enjoying life with his music aways from Life's drama of Covid-19 and everything else going on in this world our Hat's off to him, he has successfully escaped even if it is just a short while. Regarding the video we posted, everything done was visual and accurate, as you can not change the visual, regarding sound testing that is coming, the problem with that is RU-vid restricts the music we can use, if it is any music you have heard of it is copyrighted and we are striked immediately less then one minute after posting, so we are provided with a list of 5000K+ songs to choose from all of which are not the music type we want to use, however we are close, actually this Sunday Evening we will be testing three different lines of Diamond Audio product on a 2020 Harley Road Glide, factory radio & two Diamond Amps - we can not actually accurately test with Hertz as Hertz does not offer a horn solution that is practical or even comparable to a shallow horn like the Diamond Audio MO75T Shallow Horn

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Ya. Everyone has his or her different sound that one likes reproduced a certain way. And, I have found over the past 28 years that people who mostly listen to Rock, for example, tend to like Kickers, and boat people like Polk, just in general; not everyone, just what I commonly see. These bass heads like Sundown and these other new brands that produce speakers with way oversized motors, lots of mechanical distortion, but boom boom away. SPL SPL SPL. Not my thing. I in fact typically make my own system using raw drivers. And I would suggest that for any pro or someone who just can't seem to find the right sounding prefab component set, etc. --What you do is specialized to your customer base, obviously. ---This entire coronavirus situation is taking a toll on everyone, at this point.

Ha Ha - Very True

Ironic because 702 motorsports sells Hertz ( conflict of interest ? ) Why piss & shit on brands & products you sell ? Hertz might not be water proof but what really is ?

We carry both brands - we are not hating one one over the other just explaining the differences to better help consumers- if you call that hating than well that is your opinion

Bob Keller you sir are a Joke on this Christmas Day

@@bobkeller8383 If you offer no valid dialogue to your feelings than you can piss off, so either add a legitimate reply to what you believe in our we will simply block further comments and you Personally from responding in the future. So make your choice