That 01 next to "Intel" does not mean it's made in 2001 LOL, that's something to do with trademarks. The production date can be read on the long code in the line under the s-spec and production country. This particular chip was made in plant 7 (= in the Philippines) in 2003, week 30.
That's true. Also, the SL6PN-model was commercially available on August 1, 2003, according to CPU-World. This means that Dell was - perhaps as expected - one of the first to get this particular CPU to put it into their products.
I recently bought an old Optiplex system with a 4770k in it for $30. I got the cheapest SSD I could find and put XP on it. Then a $35 GTX 730 to give the graphics some overkill for XP era gaming. For less than $100 it has been perfect for playing XP era games. Hardest thing was updating all of the various drivers
Oh man RU-vid suggested me the perfect video.I had this PC,it lasted until 7 years ago more or less (I had it since 2006) and broke because the CPU,for some unkown reason,decided to burn.I kept some of his pieces,even his "amazing" PATA HDD 12GB and his PCI card. It was my first PC ever and I was so attached to it, Duke Nukem 3D was my main game because how well it runs.I was selling it at 15$ for PC-newbies but it broke while I was trying to turn it on before selling... RIP to this retro beast.
The first computer I ever upgraded was pretty similar to this, but it had a 2.53Ghz Northwood P4 and 512mb of RAM. I added another 512mb and a PCI Radeon 9250, and I turned that Dimension 2400 into a beast. It could truck through Half Life 2 and Quake 4 (after a couple shader hacks because everything was green with the default shaders)
Can't believe it my parents bought me this prebuilt in 2003 when I went to college. Except mine had an AGP slot and an AMD cpu inside under the advice of the Office Max associate who exclaimed "AMD is great for gaming!" Too bad he didn't suggest that I should also buy a Dedicated graphics card... Since at the time I had not yet met my college roomate who had been a PC builder already for many years. I soon after got an fx 5200 from Nvidia at best buy and happily played AVP2, Neverwinter Nights, Galaxies and HL for the next 10 months before I built my own. I'd remember that black Compaq case with silver front anywhere!
this brings back memories, my first pc back in 03 was a compaq presario with that exact same case! i dont remember full specs, but it had a celeron, some 128mb vram ati card, and 512mb of ram. it could run half life 2 alright with the settings tweaked right from what i can remember. I had that thing until 2013.. imagine how obsolete and bad that experience was at the end of its life haha
You had that _until_ 2013? I upgraded _to_ a similar system (P4 2.2GHz) in 2013. Before that I was using the 550MHz Celeron laptop we adopted in 2009. Before that it was a Pentium 166. I'm sure using a 1997 PC in 2008 would be a worse experience than using a 2003 PC in 2013. The most demanding thing I ran on the P5-166 was probably Roller Coaster Tycoon and I was happy to play it even when it went below 5 FPS. When some people consider gaming at 40 FPS unplayable I tend to think think they're a little bit spoiled.
@@HappyBeezerStudios pretty sure dx7 doesnt work with the steam version of Source Games anymore, for that u would have to go with a Disc version, where u could also go for DX60
i used to rock a intergrated GeForce 8200 and -dxlevel 80 was a godsent back then, over 100 fps on relatively good settings, made me feel like a bigbrain
I suspect the walls you were hitting was thermal throttling on the P4 cpu - I had one back and the day and while gaming it would get so hot the gas around it would flash to plasma.
I used to build PC's from 2007 to 2011.. it's so weird to see how everything has changed. Anyways.. I'm glad I'm not a PC guy anymore.. I'm a console guy all the way now. Love my XSX and PS5.
The problem with hl2 is it has been updated alot since releasing so it won't work as well on systems from around the release. Try a disk copy of the game if you can as you should see an fps difference if only slight
I called the AOL line and turns out they are actually still around with such an updated answering machine it says "due to the recent COVID-19 Virus there may be delays in answering"
That was the specs of my college pc. Ran diablo ii and halflife/counterstrike just fine. Then again most of what I had to compare to were the school lab computers, most of which were pentium 2s.
My test for systems this old will be "does it handle DX9 games without dying". Playing Halo 1 on an iGPU that freezes after 5-10minutes *running Halo in safe mode* is fun. BTW, Portal runs surprisingly well on even Intel's 915GMA. Even when paired with a 1.6GHz mobile Celeron. Kind of easy mode with old iGPU due to the small areas. Just have the portal's view depth at minimum...kinda causes problems otherwise.
Morgan Freeman: "Oh yes, I had to prepare real hard to play Gordon Freeman. Months and months of practice in the lab. Shooting at fake aliens and doing my own stunts... jumping over crates"
Should use cl_showfps 1 or net_graph 1/2/3 for a native counter in halflife. FRAPS can affect the performance when dealing with old graphics card/iGPU's/20 year old crap
I have a Compaq only 2 years newer! It came with a gig of ram (199 mhz) and an AMD athlon 2.2 ghz processor. I still run it as a Linux server with a modern distro! It's so weak it can't even push a 250 mbps with a gig pci card I installed
My mother has and old office computer and she brings at home and oh boy it can run Minecraft in 30-40-20 frames per second and without and graphics card! The processor is i3 2120
I remember the days when Half-Life 2 was hard to run on a PC I remember buying a whole new upgraded Pentium 4 what's an ATI graphics card just so I can run on high settings and even then I don't think I was getting 60 frames a second back then
I Know you don't do retro very well Dewid, But I am sure someone within the lovely YT PC community would have lent you a period specific card... Hell you could have borrowed one of mine.
I've personally played HL2 on a P4 notebook with the GeForce FX Go 5200, which is a potato by itself. It ran ok. But HL2 back then and the Steam version now are not the same games.
Office PCs don't need fast graphics cards. The people that buy them do so because the PC can do what they need it to do, at a price that is reasonable. That old Intel chipset was quite capable of handling normal 2D tasks. It wasn't sold as a gaming PC.
lol that was basically my first computer out of high school... emachine / celeron d / 512mb / ati radeon xpress 200 igpu lmao - counter strike source was my first demanding game on it
@Dawid Does Tech Stuff Ok, now put in a reasonable CPU for that socket, 2GB of RAM and get a reasonable PCI GPU and let's see the results. That system isn't "close to death", it needs the right parts.
Dawid, a little off topic but I have an old pc i built from parts and i cant hear audio at all and ive have checked everything bios i redownloaded windows ive redownloaded the drivers it just wont work. But spdif works but i dont have a spdif anything so the only way i can test it is with a multi meeter. Anyways anthing helps my realtek chip is alc-887
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Literally I had a friend back in the day who called me asking if it was normal for smoke to be coming out of his PC. It's exactly like the good old days!
Haha, I remember trying to play fallout 3 on my dad's pc back in 2011, my first pc in 2015 had a FX 8350, HD 7970 , 2nd was a i7 6700k , GTX 1070 and now I'm running a 5800x + RTX 3080
Steam version of Half Life has a different OpenGL renderer that is different than the 1998 WON version of the game. The old WON version had support for Software rendering as well as older Dx and OpenGL version, which probably would have ran a lot better on this machine. The Steam version's renderer is built more for modern computer GPU's. Edit: Also the version of Half Life 2 that you ran has been updated multiple times by Valve to the 2007 Orange Box version of the Source engine, which is significantly more demanding than the older 2004 version of the game. Not that it would have handled the old version any better, but a Pentium 4 would have been well within specs of playing Half Life 2 when it came out.
I had a athlon xp with sd ram, pci-e must have been brand new because I had no clue what that small slot was at the time, I think he should try it, run a 1x to 16x ribbon adapter with an old geezer cpu.
@@OmPrakash-pc1ec first stop doing drugs it making you weird I ask joking and asking a question what could go wrong not would the motherboard detect it cause on pci a 3080 would suck worse the a gt710 on pci-e it would be just as pointless so stop doing drugs it making you ask stupid things
@@tyre1337 Well, i didn't have anything other back then, i didnt play half life 2, and for the games that did work for me it was a pretty cool experience. I remember playing gothic 3 with turned off shadows and it was like 20-30 fps, didnt measure it, and up to 3 loads before game crashed.
@@tyre1337 everybody hated fx5200 back then but now retro community see it as cheap way to play dx8 games as they are much more common (also in PCI version but mostly in AGP) than previous gen high end cards and way cheaper. For dx9....just terrible choice.
@@mikeycrackson Yeah, back in the day i had a MX4000 and it wouldn't open BF2 at all, it wouldn't even open BF Heroes. Thing was so bad i was envious of the FX 5200.
Actually good cable management because that was a challenge back in the day lol I love how people say cable management is hard in certain newer cases, they should try any case pre-2000 lol
My case is pretty new and has loads of space in it but nowhere to put the mess of cables,though I did stupidly get a non modular power supply to try and save money
Something to keep in mind is that the current version of Half-Life 2 available on Steam has higher minimum system requirements than the original release. Current minimum: OS: Windows 7, Vista, XP Processor: 1.7 Ghz Memory: 512 MB RAM Graphics: DirectX 8.1 level Graphics Card (requires support for SSE) Storage: 6500 MB available space The original printed on the back of the case on my copy of the original release: OS: Windows 2000, XP, Me, 98 Processor: 1.2 Ghz Memory: 256 MB RAM Graphics: DirectX 7 level Graphics Card Storage: 4,5 GB
@@HappyBeezerStudios Not sure, could be, but that doesn't really change anything. You needed Steam back then too, but that version of Steam would in that case have used less system resources to run. So in either case the combo of Half-Life 2+Steam running in the background has higher system requirements today than it did back then, doesn't really matter if it's just one of them or both that are more demanding today.
@@HappyBeezerStudios No, the original 2004 HL2 was VERY different from the current major release, which is the 2013 Steampipe update, but there were major updates before that in 2006 with Episode 1 and 2007 with Episode 2. The original 2004 release of HL2 also came with the original Steam release, or "Steam 1.0", which was a dreadful buggy piece of garbage that replaced the older WON system run by Sierra. Steam predates HL2 by a couple of years, starting back in 2002ish when Valve wanted to bring the online component of their games in-house. So the first games were the HL1 franchise. When HL2 Episode 1 was released in 2006, Valve forward ported the original HL2 game to the Ep1 engine. As the Ep1 engine wasn't that much of an improvement over the original Source engine HL2 ran on, the system requirements didn't go up that much. The only real major change here was that Ep1 dropped support for video cards below DirectX 8.0. The original Source engine HL2 ran on had some support for DirectX 6/7, and would run on cards that only supported it, like the Voodoo5 5500 or the Geforce 2 MX. When Orange Box was released in 2007, it marked a major uptick in system requirements. All of the new visual features like normal mapping, detail texturing and increased shader detail drastically increased the system requirements of the game. Support for less than DirectX 8.1 was dropped, which killed off a number of Nvidia video cards from the Geforce 4 and older, as well as the FX series due to them having severe performance issues when running in DX9 mode. The most recent big update was the Steampipe release in 2013, which is when Valve went cross platform with the game. This release is orders of magnitude more demanding than any of the prior updates because of the grossly inefficient method they used to make the Source engine cross platform, but this affected the original HL engine as well. Instead of having a single rendering API, it now has to go through a Direct X to OpenGL translation layer (at least on non-Windows machines) and runs on OpenGL libraries that are not at all tolerant of older hardware. If you have anything older than like a Radeon HD 4000 series or GTX 200 series, you're going to have a bad time. So even if you could run the modern Source engine on ancient hardware, the performance is going to be FAR worse than older versions of the game. With each major update of the Source engine along the original Source engine lineage, HL2 was forward ported to avoid Valve having to maintain multiple branches of the engine. This has created many headaches with compatibility over the years because some engine features were lost between releases, and some backend stuff changed that broke mods, requiring ugly hacky workarounds.
Strangely enough, I won't. I have 2-3 of these old, early 2000's cases and they make for great budget build boxes. Even better is finding a few with similar parts and making a beefy boy in one of them. YEAAHHHH baby, 4 64GB hard drives!
@@Matrxmonky I stuck a b350, gtx 1060 and ryzen 2600 build in this box for my kid. He was tired of playing with a 'sleeper build' and wanted a case that was younger than him. :D
I‘d build a PC in that case from the same decade so I don’t think it would really be a sleeper build. I‘d put something like a Core 2 Duo E6600, 2 or 4GB RAM and an 8800 GT in it and I’d also install Windows XP on it so it would be a retro gaming PC for games from early to late 2000s. I‘d put a Core 2 Quad Q6600 in it instead if the airflow of that Compaq case is good enough wich I don’t think it is.
I remember LITERALLY CRYING while trying to play Half-Life 2 on my dad's PC at 10FPS during Christmas morning of 2004. Not because it was running badly, but because it was Half-Life 2, and picking up the can and throwing it at the combine guard was the most amazing freaking thing I'd ever seen.
When this game came out, it was pretty much designed to run on the Radeon 97/800 series and really was an fps killer. If I remember rightly I had an Athlon 3000+ running on an NF2 mobo combined with said Radeon 9800 and it was a pretty fun experience. Although admittedly that was high end back in that day!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff they have free email accounts, but the dial up internet over a 56k modem still works, but isnt free, its still like 25 bucks a month. Maybe gaming over 56k could be sucky to try.
Hi! These performances with the PCI card at the end, give me the impression that the inboard graphic drivers weren't totally uninstalled, which in Windows XP is mandatory due to the way it manage memory, which will not only provoke slow down and over-process but also leads to some management drivers conflict, leading obviously to a blue screen.
Actually I also would like to see how a sleeper with this case would turn out. Aka the nothing to see here PC. If I lived with the roommates this is what I would have so they wouldn't get any ideas about snatching my good PC.
Same with HL1 - he tried running the "Source" version, which is far more demanding. Oh, and forget about any resolutions above 1024x768 - this was gonna be connected to a CRT monitor.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff HL2 shipped with different DX versions, I'm pretty sure DX8 would've been more appropriate as DX9 was only a couple years old at that point. Make a part 2, this PC will be fine running 90s games as it's GPU is on par with a Rage 128.
@@RandomRider570 If you had this Compaq back when it was new, and compared it to home computers from 18-20 years before that, you would find a much, much bigger difference. Early to mid '80s, the days of 8 bit computers, the start of the 16 bit era. Speeds measured in single digit MHz, RAM measured in KB, floppy disks that were actually floppy, 1 MB hard drives that cost more than a new fitted kitchen, if they were even available for your system. And mice were something that ate cheese and squeaked. 😁
@@outtheredude you might be right but it's not a representation of who might be trying to play Half Life 2. Source: I'm 34. I played Half Life 2 in 2004... I think on either a Slot A dual 800MHZ P3 or an Athlon something maybe and a GeForce 4 Ti 4600. I have a feeling using a PCIE to PCI bridge was also a bad move here
@@outtheredude But this should be a gaming PC. He should use a Radeon graphic card from that era. Even custom water-cooling was a thing back then. There was even a company Vapochill that produced cases with a compressor to freeze the processor. There was a big gaming scene and I think he missed that point.
@@misinterpretedphysics Why would a PC geared towards office use need AGP? Lots of PCs used integrated graphics from the likes of Intel and Nvidia. Not everyone bought a high end 'gaming' PC, and on it's release, HL2 was a pretty demanding game. Many computers struggled to run it. Many PCs had problems running the original DOOM when it came out. My Sinclair ZX81 wouldn't play many games without a memory upgrade, nor would the 16K Atari 400 that replaced it. This problem is nothing new.
Oof yeah seriously. "Educational PC's" always seems to be the absolute worst most bottom of the barrel crap ever. Does no one not a single person that works at any learning institution know how to build a decent PC or at least buy prebuilt ones of decent quality whatsoever?! Won't someone think of the children.
@@YYLiow when I was in high school starting in 2004, we were stuck with garbage lik this with only a geforce 2/3 era GPU running CAD applications that could use up to the 6000 series in VRAM/texture fill. My homie's sempron e-machine with an extra 512mb of ram (768mb total!) and a radeon 9600 pro in the AGP slot (IT HAD AN AGP SLOT!) absolutely pissed on the PCs at school, and it was already slow as balls for the time. The PCs we were stuck trying to "learn" on (if you could call the experience we were having learning, as we learned more about how to fix and optimize PCs than how to do CAD work) were abysmal to the point that a lot of students just gave up, studied at home to pass the final test (the only testing in the whole class), and then used the time they lost at home in class playing quake 3 and shit which could run on a geforce 2 or 3 era card. The kids with the Geforce 3s were also the ones with the bigger CRT monitors that could do EITHER a higher resolution up to 1600x1200, OR 1280x960 at 75hz! This made them the best PCs to do CAD work on, and capable of pushing higher FPS than the others such that they could actually use that 75hz refresh rate. Still wasn't anything compared to what I had at home performance wise, but at least the monitors had decent resolution and refresh. They didn't look as good as my trinitron did, but being able to play at 75hz both at home and at school was an experience for sure, for the time. By the time I'd left high school they were getting rid of all those awesome old CRTs and replacing them with LCDs that could only do 60hz and used TN panels. They looked like hot garbage but it's what dell sold them for their tech upgrade for the whole campus. Around the same time Jobs' son had just graduated a year ahead of me, so this upgrade was badly needed, since Jobs had donated a couple labs worth of Macs, which revealed just how slow everything else on campus really was by that point. Think 5-7 year old PCs in some classrooms, in an era where 1-2 years was sometimes 2 to 4 times the performance increase in new hardware releasing in that time
@@TheOriginalFaxon For me my school PC was better it had Windows XP on it but no discrete GPU. Those CRT monitors probably run at 720p. My home PC was only a Windows 98 with no internet connections. Had to rent CD Video games to play. Only my first PC aka is a laptop i think was a third hand in high school.
I had an old Presario but with worse specs (Celeron 2.8ghz and 256mb) and it could run hl2, poorly mind you, but I still played it on that, the issue I think is they updated the game over the years I still have the old box with the 5 install cds and the min reqs are 1.2ghz cpu, 256mb ram and dx7 gpu, which isn't the same as it is now
Nice, that brings back memories 😃. Although my PC was a bit better than that... I think it was a 2.6GHz Pentium 4 with a Radeon 9800 Pro. Bought HL2 pretty much immediately when it was released (on 5 CDs!) and yeah, those specs gave me a pretty nice experience. Also - I think there's a "2004 spec" Half-Life 2 install floating around on the interwebz you could try, I'm pretty sure it would perform better on this old beast. The current Steam version of HL2 has much higher system requirements than the original release version had.
I love these terrible PC videos. I'd love to see some sort of collab with timmyjoe, where you both try to find the worst local PC and see if they could game. Since we are all Canadian here, the prices would be pretty similar.
Now here's what I would like to see. Can a linux install breathe new gaming life into this old machine? .....maybe with at least some kind of old gpu to be slightly better than the integrated
It's a crazy coincidence that my Grandad had a PC just like this when we were growing up. One of the only times I ever shared a PC gaming experience with him playing the old classic 'Outlaws', the other being him giving me driving advice on Test Drive Unlimited... Bless him. He passed on Easter Sunday this year, never forget his words every time I overtake in that game.
