Trying To Restore This Rusty Old Wilton Vise

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@Tictacpanter 3 года назад

Nice thing about iconic designs is that you can grind off the name and everyone still knows it's a Wilton.

@Zahrok 3 года назад

And you have the video to prove it.

@paulwomack5866 3 года назад

Ever seen a York ? :-)

@fearthereaper298 2 года назад

Well, clearly U don't know how YORK vise looks...

@solveit1304 3 года назад

I suggest you cover your vise with some protect oil - I also restore my dad vise and I also don't use oil and after 1 year corrosion starts to show up, so whole cleaning process needs to be repeated :(

@SpencerPaire 3 года назад

I'm thinking the exact same thing! It would be terrible for that vice to go to rust. And with cast iron, that will be sooner than later.

@infinityverse862 8 месяцев назад

Hi ,i am going to take rust from iron antique balcony ,and i was thinking putting an anty-rust oil before painting but wasn.t sure if after the oul i could paint the iron .What do you suggest me?Thank you very much

@H3xx99 3 года назад

Don't forget Alex, "A Grinder and Paint make me the Welder I Ain't."

@achappel 3 года назад

In this case a grinder, sander, file, dremel and a milling machine 😂

@TheIncredibleVasher 3 года назад

Nice job! You might want to put a clear coat of polyurethane to preserve that finish you spent so much time on 😬

@maddi5920 3 года назад

yeah the rust will return quickly otherwise!

@pinpetos 3 года назад

I would recommend a ceramic car wax. PU ends up looking like a crappy plastic finish over the lovely metal!

@sheanyquist 3 года назад

Grinding the lettering off of a Wilton is a felony in the US. Hahahah. Looks amazing. Great work!!!

@arcadiagreen150 4 месяца назад

I made a phone call, and apparently, Hell is already aware of this. They have a reservation for him due to taking the letters off

@danielalamo2075 2 месяца назад

Blasphemy.

@JockeSelin 3 года назад

Awesome! Don’t drill into the table, just make an adapter plate that fits the hole pattern. That way you can remove it if not needed, and you can position it anywhere you need it! 😎👍🏻

@M_Northstar 3 года назад

Came down here to say exactly this.

@AnanasStudio 3 года назад

bolt vise to 15mm thick steel plate, and plate bolt to corresponding holes in table :D

@namewarvergeben 3 года назад

14:35 The original threads are almost certainly No. 10-32 UNF: - the Unified Thread standard uses the same tooth-profile as metric standard threads (unlike for example British Whitworth threads, which have more rounded teeth) - No.10 UN threads have a diameter of ~4.83mm, which matches your description that it differs from M5 by about 0.2mm - M5 has a pitch of 0.8mm, which is very close to 32 TPI (which is a pitch of ~0.79mm)

@achappel 3 года назад

Thanks for the great explanation! :))

@bobwatkins1271 3 года назад

I've done worse hacks. When I could not find M8 bolts locally, I ran a 5/16-18 tap through a hole that was tapped for M8. (Pretty large pitch difference, but it was a shallow hole, so it ended up working out).

@alvaroampudia4382 3 года назад

you beat me to it.....

@TheducksOrg 3 года назад

Used to do a lot of server installs.. had to remove more than one M5 screw from a #10-32 threaded hole.. I kept a cold chisel, vice grips and a mallet in the car, just in case.

@SeanHodgins 3 года назад

Love a good vise restoration video.

@Qwarzz 3 года назад

Is it still restoration when you make it look completely different from original? Functionality definitely was restored very nicely.

@ErraticPerfectionist 3 года назад

I love vise restoration/refurbs too. So satisfying.

@lilmatt1914 3 года назад

love seeing the evolution of not only the shop but your channel as well. you've got a great energy to you with cool ideas.

@Benjaminfenk 3 года назад

Nice work. I have a small machining tip for you. Always countersink your holes before tapping. This way the tap centers itself nicely and is less likey going to break.

@battalion151R 3 года назад

I picked up a '76 Wilton Bullet vise, a few years ago. I wish I had made a video. The slide was rust "welded" in place. A previous owner had sheared the crosspin off, trying to get it freed up. I spent 2 days, a can of PB Blaster, some kerosene, and transmission fluid, trying to get the slide loose. Also heated the poor thing up with a torch, to no avail. But, that had the side benefit of getting rid of all the oil and old paint. After 2 days, I got the slide to move about 1/4". Using wedges, I hammered them in between the jaws, and started to get things to move. I broke a 2.5 lb sledge, beating on the wedges. Finally, got the thing apart. Easy clean up. Wire brushed and painted. Looks and works like new. Biggest problem is, I hate to scar it back up. 😊

@maddi5920 3 года назад

I have been subscribed since like video 5. Your positive Energy and the way you approach problems is really motivational and you videos constantly make my day just a little better. Thanks for that and greetings from Germany!

@fsanchezsmith 3 года назад

So happy you didn’t paint it. I think taking the extra time really made this restoration a masterpiece 👌🏽 great job!

@raymitchell9736 3 года назад

For attaching the vice to your table, Maybe you can make an adapter plate to bolt the vice to it and then the plate would bolt to your work surface. It turned out great, you saved the vice from the scrap heap, and while you didn't keep the maker's mark, it is now a gorgeous thing of beauty!

@achappel 3 года назад

I actually managed to drill into the table eventually. I ended up using masonry bits that I sharpened with a diamond file :)

@raymitchell9736 3 года назад

@@achappel I'm glad you found a solution... just another point about the plate idea: it would allow you to reposition the vice on the table at any point you wanted and you wouldn't need to drill into your table... Anyway great build... Cheers!

@dustinwiget8088 3 года назад

Next video, Heating treating oven!!! You could use that to soften up your welds and relieve the stresses and also be able to mill them afterwards without ruining your bits!!! Plus it's another idea for a video so it's a win win hah

@maddi5920 3 года назад

I thought of that too... great Idea!

@williamkendall7412 2 года назад

I don't know why, but I have been caught up in watching videos of restoring vises. And I have been wanting to see one that has been done with this type of finish, instead of putty and paint. It looks beautiful! Good job.

@MrJruta 2 года назад

That beauty screams 1950’s space ship! Incredible 👍

@jeftesantiago 3 года назад

Hi Alex, the best way you can find out what is the thread pitch of that imperial bolt, is to measure one inch (25.4mm) and count the number of crest. If the bolt is not long enough, you can do the same with 1/2 inch (12.7mm), just double the numbers. Then, the numbers of crest per inch known as TPI (threads per inch) is the pitch number, the magical number that you are searching. If you do not have access to measure on imperial, just divide the outside diameter in 25.4 (the amount of mm in a inch). Keep in mind that imperial threads have a lot of pitches, being something like 10-25 or so. I hope I have being helpful.

@kentswan3230 3 года назад

As always it's really entertaining watching you mix things up between wood, storage, metal, and restoration.

@eilifborge3339 3 года назад

This is not a restoration, it's a "Flash Gordonisation"! Nice job!

@erroneousjoe1301 3 года назад

This is more of a restomod than a restoration, but I'm not complaining!

@Zahrok 3 года назад

Nice vice restoration. Now the problem to fix to the table, make a adapter so you are not fix to a location on the table. When you want to move you can by using the holes that you all ready you have on the table. And some way that is easy to exchange and fix the adapter to you table. I hope this idea come handy for you. Continue the good work and stay safe.

@Steve-qo4hi Год назад

What a nice job on that Wilton! Impressive skills my man.

@Edman_79 3 года назад

It's perfectly fine. This is already more you than Wilton. Looks like a jet engine. Very nice!

@ChrisMayhew22 Год назад

Great video, I love watching people restore stuff like this. If you plan on doing more of it then I would suggest a sand blasting unit 😁

@meirnarum2887 3 года назад

Haven't even started watching and I'm already so hyped to watch this. I love these kind of vids from you. But you still have a good commentary and mix of content on your channel too. Keep up the good work!

@jimmywannstrom5151 3 года назад

Could you perhaps try to etch back their logo? Im not really bothered by it and I would probably have done the same. But it feels like they deserve some credit for having made that nice Vice. Could also be a nice project to try etching something, if you havent done that before.

@maddi5920 3 года назад

That is such a great idea! But maybe could also practice on a scrap piece first before moving to the vice ^^

@irritantno9 3 года назад

Strongly recommend making cast iron repairs with silicon bronze. I have done both stainless and bronze repairs. Far less problems with this route. Welding tips and tricks as well as This Old Tony have covered this topic. I recently built up a Bridgeport varidrive pulley with a rosebud and brazing rods. The bronze is highly machinable.

@MadAsKiwi 3 года назад

Very nice. That is a vice that will last you a lifetime, and many others. I would suggest finding a rust preventative/steel preserving oil to prevent rust build up. Keep up the great work

@jeftesantiago 3 года назад

18:02, just made a plate with the right location for each part. Use the bolt pattern on the table to manufacture a plate that has the bolt pattern of the table on one side and the vise pattern on the other. You can make some pins with the lathe for it.

@BrainHurricanes 3 года назад

Exactly what I was thinking!

@jeftesantiago 3 года назад

@@BrainHurricanes Thanks, now I know that I’am not alone.

@rodester1297 3 года назад

Project idea: sand blasting station to help you with your restorations

@sniperoth 3 года назад

There are plenty of restoration videos on RU-vid and they're really good at taking things apart, soaking on rust removers, then buffing as if they're new. But have you seen anyone go so far as to grind, weld, machine, and even fabricate replacement parts? You have now. :)

@AlexSwavely 3 года назад

"table is really really hard" Adapter plate for the win.

@moriororbi6963 3 года назад

RESTORATION !!!!! YEAH !!!!

@dcanom321 3 года назад

I support the decision to grind off the letters. It looks so clean.

@calebnikkel3230 3 года назад

you should make a sandblaster and use it to finish your next restoration

@patriciamueller6892 2 года назад

How come there is no reality show on television to show you the logic method of restoring vises on the planet iam waiting....and waiting..

@LogicalLedge 3 года назад

You are supposed to be Millionaires youtuber. I likes your perfect working projects.

@diegoortizanzorena6124 3 года назад

What I love about this chanel is your commitment.

@MichaelMajeran 3 года назад

Great. I love when you modify sonething instead of simply restoring it 😍

@nateb7394 3 года назад

Awesome! Looks great. It's nice to see an old tool restoration that doesn't end in painting every once in a while!

@davefoster6156 3 года назад

I am quite impressed with the finish on the vice. It turned out to be quite beautiful. If I were you, I would spray it with a light coat of oil or WD40 or even a light coat of clear lacquer to keep down the surface rust. Hell of a good job you did there.

@uncleblack7322 3 года назад

Better than chrome plating... an excellent job...I really enjoyed this vid

@SARSteam 3 года назад

Wow, now this looks snazzy! Well done and thanx for sharing !

@jojojojo-ur3yq 3 года назад

I think that the thread of your old imperial screw is #10-32 UNF. I guess nobody cares but as you asked, I felt that I had to share this information ;) By the way, you did a great job!

@PaulMillhouse7 3 года назад

I care! I was looking for this haha. About to do the pitch calculation myself.

@aaronbuildsa 3 года назад

Was also about to say the same thing :) 10-32 is technically 0.079mm pitch but that's "close enough for government work" as they say!

@kraemrz 3 года назад

Was also looking for someone that answered this 😁

@jeftesantiago 3 года назад

I was doing some investigation, and ended up thinking about like a 3/16 bolt, the problem is that the pith are difficult to match, It would be a lot easier to have both bolts in hand to know more about it. And, I think there is a whole community wondering what bolt was that, you are not alone!

@minefreak2000 2 года назад

Was looking as well, thank you, you hero!

@grahamserle7930 3 года назад

Forget about all other health issues, this is the problem when you contract the O.C.D virus, the rabbit hole is never ending. Well done, it vise looks awesome.

@marsgizmo 3 года назад

wonderful restoration 👌😌

@johantyllstrom1986 3 года назад

It looks great. I think it looks like an old fighter jet plane. Awesome.

@billofalltrades2633 Год назад

Well done ! An awesome addition to your shop!

@nilsblumenschein6401 3 года назад

Just perfect, not a thing I would have done differently!!! Good job!

@biglouie69 3 года назад

That beauty should have Chappel cast into the side!

@Theincrediblespud 3 года назад

I wonder if rough stones in a tumbler would have been an easier way to remove the texture?

@maddi5920 3 года назад

But that way he would not have had control of what is being „smoothened“. He could have lost crucial mechanical details.

@Theincrediblespud 3 года назад

@@maddi5920 Fair point. Take my comment as nothing more than a curiosity from a lay person :)

@maddi5920 3 года назад

@@Theincrediblespud Oh we aren't lazy. We are just trying to find an easier way for everything. Thats not lazy. That's effiency! ;)

@t0kinl3lunts 3 года назад

1) it would have taken a loooong time 2) it would have tumbled parts he didn't want tumbled 3) that is a heavy casting, he would have needed a biiiig tumbler.

@maddi5920 3 года назад

@@t0kinl3lunts Yeah thats the problem.

@scottibass 3 года назад

you really polished your knob at the end there.

@dariushmilani6760 2 года назад

Great job Alex. Back of the vise looks like a back of a jet engine 👍😊

@andrewpbclarke 3 года назад

Ooh, shiny. Very nicely done Alex.

@handmademania1 3 года назад

I love it everytime to see how enthusiastic you are with your work

@EnsignLovell 3 года назад

Loved this video! Preheating metal is very important, you don't want a super hot material being cooled too fast by a cold material, that's about all I know about welding though...

@2nd_bloxx 3 года назад

This thing is one of the most beautiful Vises I've ever seen! Keep ut the great work!

@FearsomeWarrior 3 года назад

Shiny! Love it. Removing the name is no big deal. I wish the screws on the handle where black or shiny. Minor detail.

@jeftesantiago 3 года назад

That suspicious imperial bolt could be a 3/16 - 16 one. If it was 4.8mm, is the near by one from 5mm. I hope it did helped out a little.

@leonzantvoort6201 3 года назад

Well, it turned out beautiful. You can have it nickel plated or even chrome plated. Make a simple base plate to match the vise model. With a corner on it for support against the front of the table. And with a few pieces of threaded end that then fit into the holes of the table. Just make sure the vise closes in front of the table.

@wladfiggs 3 года назад

You did an awesome job! Your videos are getting better and better. One of my favourite channels hands down. Actually, I believe the body was forged, not casted, that’s why the manufacturer didn’t worry about the misalignment of the casts. Otherwise it wouldn’t have been hard enough. About your weld fix to repair cracks. It is most likely that the crack is still there since you didn’t control your thermo ramps, and depending on the force, it may crack again. But I wouldn’t worry about it RN. And if if cracks, you can just fix it again. For a non professional welder, your TIG beads look simply great, we all know how hard it is.

@coreymac2381 3 года назад

I love refurbishing old tools. Great job on the vice!

@DudleyToolwright 3 года назад

I am far from a welding expert, but you might want to try nickel based filler for cast iron in the future. I hear it is a better choice. Entertaining video. To hold a round part in a mill vise you want to avoid directly clamping the round part because it is only being held along two lines. Try adding an angle block. That will hold a round part along three lines and have much better holding power.

@ClayVella 3 года назад

This is a great project and it turned out beautifully! To mount it to the table, why not make a flange? It will have holes that will bolt to the table's hole pattern and also holes to mount it to the vise's hole pattern. That will give a bit of modularity as well. 🙂

@0xDEADBEEF666 3 года назад

Gorgeous restoration

@airevolution926 3 года назад

In the beginning, it was an old vice then it turned into what looked like a jet engine, and then finally a great modern vice.

@louisfkoorts5590 3 года назад

😁👍🏻

@JohnUllrey 3 года назад

I spent a lot of time learning how to create accurate working screw threads in FreeCAD for my 3D Printing designs. If you look at the Unified Thread Standard Wikipedia articles on Metric and Imperial you will find that the Imperial #10 Fine thread pitch is 0.7938 mm and the M5 Coarse pitch is 0.8mm. Also the major diameter of the #10 is 4.8260mm.

@SuicideNeil 3 года назад

Make an adapter plate- holes on the vice > holes on the table, so that you don't have to even touch the table with a drill, just bolting the vice to the plate and then the plate onto the table.

@burgerslave101 3 года назад

just going to say that. effective & elegant solution w/o trashing your awesome table (super jealous btw)

@BLEKSIDE 3 года назад

wood working is really satisfying to watch but metal is just really another level

@billchiasson2019 Год назад

That came out amazing!! Very cool!!

@TomLandolt 3 года назад

damn looks so modern now. awesome work. no words

@lexmakes 3 года назад

Great job! Make an spacer plate to attach to the table.

@frankierzucekjr 3 года назад

Really awesome, you're perfecting your craft at metal work, and you've made great use of the new welding table.

@magnustangen6269 3 года назад

you are the only person on yt wehere i have actually clicked that damn bell

@THANATOSIXU 3 года назад

You can make a carrier plate that has mounting holes for the vise and also matching holes to the table. You can machine some locking bolts and nuts and can manually mount it to the table in a semi permanent non destructive way.

@CombsDesign 3 года назад

With all the work you put into making that nicer than the day it left the factory, you earned the right to remove the name lol. Great job! Also, that appears to be an 8-32 pan head machine screw. I wish we used the metric system in the US.....

@Libertelia 3 года назад

First time I didn't like something in your videos, and that was the removing of the letters! (but anyways, great video!!)

@Otherman101 3 года назад

Nice job on the welding! I've restored a few old hand planes and sympathize with the cast iron dust problem, that stuff gets everywhere. I may have missed in the video, but how are you protecting it against rust? A thin layer of oil?

@Zackmex 3 года назад

That thing looks beautiful!

@scenefly 3 года назад

This thing looks F###ing awesome!!! 💪

@jorgenmalmo 3 года назад

I wish i had a workshop so i too could do videos like this :)

@makewithmegma 3 года назад

Amazing work🔥❤👍

@orangemoore2080 3 года назад

Chances are that screw is a #10-32 (Size #10, 32 Threads Per inch) they are almost identical to M5 hardware

@achappel 3 года назад

oh cool, thanks! :)

@FergyA 3 года назад

Yep, definitely a #10-32. 10-32 is 4.31mm pitch dia, 0.79mm pitch, M5 is 4.48mm and 0.8mm.

@mfmr200 2 года назад

Beautiful work

@EpicBastler 3 года назад

Your videos inspire me again and again. They are beautiful to look at too.

@ElectricalASMR 3 года назад

Gorgeous vise! Great job!

@stefannikolov4387 3 года назад

Wow! This vise looks insanely beautiful! And man did it take a lot of work. Awesome! :)

@rootvalue 3 года назад

That Bullet is the exact vise I have. Mine came with the end cap, but the restoration was similar! Great move leaving it raw-my single stage Hammertone paint chips if you look at it the wrong way. Just remember to use some film-forming rust preventative.