TS!UNDERSWAP Demo 2.0 Secret Evacuation Neutral Route - Starlight Isles (Genocide Forgiveness Run) 

i mean its not really about sans just that he hangs around the isles alot in geno he talks about not being from this world what ever that means

@@mrdemon4429 most theorise that sans deltarune is actually the same sans in undertale. theres possible evidence and stuff, such as how he bleeds when you kill him in undertale geno

@@mrdemon4429 that was actually a fake story, he says it himself.

@@mrdemon4429 someone didn't watch until the end lmao that story is made up by him. He straight up tells you it's one of the story lines in one of his comic book issues

ah well i never beated him in UT or ts swap fucking no inv frames and karma at level 8 :( @@peeka_

And you could probably continue to exhaust kill counters in later areas. Meaning you essentially get an alternate version of Ruthless.

@lemons38Its slightly different if you do that though

​@lemons38wait so muffet doesn't have the dogs ?

​@@dartmonkey63i just did the run myself, Muffet doesn't capture Greater Dog and Lesser Dog, because Sans and Papyrus are with chara. If you decide to end muffet violently(which i did because i was level 9) Sans calls you a scum

It might not be the case, as sans uses easier versions of the genocide attacks

​@@Sandstheskeletonbut will we be given this leniancy with Alphys and Undyne? No

Ehh. Still get full health items, and the fights are only a little harder for specific characters while others are easier.

The muffet dog scare spare was my personal highlight

Eh Undertale Yellow and Deltatraveler and pretty tough competitors

@@deltatale533 Personally, I think TS handles it the best. I love Undertale Yellow, but most of interesting Neutral Run options come after you kill Starlo. If you cancel Genocide before meeting Martlet in the Dunes, everything just…returns to normal, pretty much. The town before Wild East isn’t even abandoned. The characters still have way more reactions than in Undertale, for example, killing everyone in the Ruins and leaving Dalv alone, but still. Deltatraveler is in a similar boat. You get some interesting dialogue and cutscenes for neutral runs but not many major changes, unlike TS and UTY.

@@deltatale533 Deltatraveler geno is... literally just edginess simulator. Deltatraveler as a whole is edgy and/or bafflingly written at times, but its geno route in particular epitomizes everything bad about it. Like, you have Noelle flat out *suicide baiting,* and that's after aborting the route, when the tone should be getting lighter, at least starting to. That's not a well-handled tonal shift at all, it's just going for pure shock value.

Undertale and TS are peak but Yellow is still overall better imo especially since its complete lol

Interesting

@lemons38 to be fair i think it makes sense if you abort it in the ruins. i mean, most of the underground had no idea their friggin QUEEN was in there, let alone some random monsters. but yeah i do agree when it comes to any other route abortion point

@lemons38 I mean, with Undyne, it kinda makes sense. She believed Frisk to be pure evil, and was about to intervene, but then they spare some random kid, despite having previously shown themself to be not above murdering kids or noncombatants. And that act of kindness makes Undyne hesitate, because it seems completely out of character for the thing she knows has done worse.

@lemons38 I think the point that really doesn't make sense is if you don't kill monster kid, kill Undyne, and then go to Hotland and Alphys helps you like nothing happened. So, basically Alphys watched you kill dozens of people in Snowdin _and_ Waterfall, stopped watching just as you were about to face Undyne (despite having every reason to watch your every move), and decides to help you anyway despite everything you did to Papyrus, Snowdin, and the inhabitants of Waterfall. Now I'm not faulting Toby at all because he's just one guy, he had a time limit and Undertale is already pretty unparalleled in terms of the game reacting to your decisions. Still, this is a weak point, albeit one that ~nobody will see unless they're actively trying to explore every possibility.

just think of it and fr it is now I'm happy that I got it in pasfist

Hes in the place of temmie tho SO take note of that

@@buttergolfmaybe he’s gonna sell you pellet armor or smth

So far he has acted like sans did in undertale

infact he shows up randomly in pacifist too you just have to do random things in geno it seems hes watching you rather hes concerned or not guess we gotta wait awhile till games out @@buttergolf

Asriel is alive in this AU. Flowey is his own entity.

Not sure tbh

You just have to fight with fists​@@YeetusSnoopy

he just takes away your hands and you cannot use items anymore

Probably still neutral

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Pretty much the same thing, except that Sans' dialogue is different, and the same is also true if you abort ruthless in Starlight Isles by not killing enough. Pretty sure it also applies if you exhaust the kill counter here even if you start on pacifist or neutral.

Nothing happens, its basically filler text

the weight of ur sins...

And they know what you made them do...

"I killed 20+ people. Is it weird that I feel regret?"

It turns into some variation of evac neutral

@@YeetusSnoopy I meant what will happen if you did pacifist or genocide after evac in the next area after starlight isles

@@gladeburstoh

We don't yet because the area hasn't released yet, but what we do know is that the third area can likely be aborted and it will also be very different on Genocide/Evac Neutral compared to Neutral/Pacifist.

At least we know what happens if you start genocide on the Starlight Islands. Everything is like a Neutral Route until after the fight against Muffet, where it becomes an Evacuation Route.

She dies it’s basically a betrayal kill

yea its kinda just a watered down geno fight, which could be good practice for no hitting actually geno

you only fight like muffet and some other monsters so yep

I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, it's a nice way of showing Sans's judgmental side and ultimately acting as a way to show your consequences for still killing an entire area of monsters and thinking you can just put that behind you. And the dialogue during the fight also changes depending on if you aborted genocide in ruined home but still killed monsters in Starlight Isles, or if you went through ruined home as a pacifist but then decided to initiate evacuation neutral in starlight isles by exhausting the kill counter. Ultimately your consequences still have lasting effects throughout the rest of the game.

@@Turbulation1 ts underswap def takes the cake when it comes to alternates routes but i can see this becoming a very large scaling issue with later sections of the game

I doubt the other characters will be as judgmental, sans is like this because well, he's sans, it's in his character.@@YeetusSnoopy I imagine the next evac route fights could be more unique and be quicker to get through.