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TSP #4 - Frequency Generation: Crystals and Ring Oscillators (Part 4/4) 

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In this episode (Part 4/4) Shahriar takes a look at the challenges associated with signal generation for the purposes of timekeeping. More specifically he digs deep into the workings of crystal oscillators and even takes apart some vintage crystals to reveal whats inside! He also shows how this type of circuits can be characterized and compares the performance of a crystal oscillator with that of a ring oscillator under temperature and power supply variations.

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@lucasbracher
@lucasbracher 13 лет назад
Very good pronunciation! It´s easy for a non-native english speaker to understand you. Keep it up!
@GregUzelac
@GregUzelac 13 лет назад
I bought a Beckmen 310 Tech DMM in college, circa '83. It recently died so I just bought a Fluke 87-V on ebay. It should arrive in a few days and I'm excited. I'm amazed how many nice features the 87-V has. $150 per month seems really low. You must be getting some great deals! That Fluke that I mentioned was $175, for example. I love your approach, buy used and fix it yourself. I sensed in the video that you treat your instruments with great care. That being said it should last a long time.
@TheAlfieobanz
@TheAlfieobanz 7 лет назад
I definitely needed to watch this 4 part series before I watched the all the teardowns and reviews....guess I'll watch them again 🤓
@carmelpule6954
@carmelpule6954 9 лет назад
Excellent in every way. Congratulations. I love your equipment, so accurate and everything at the push of a button. You are so young and used to the modern equipment including the frequency analyser. I normally make my own equipment including power supplies, signal generators and have one old analogue oscilloscope, but I manage. Have been playing about with exciting loop antennas, but since I do not bother with crystals, I use the loop antenna itself as the frequency determining element . It is all about showing the principles involved and I am not after such accuracy that you have shown in this video. Congratulations once again, you have a good understanding of the subject and can transfer the knowledge to others in the most excellent manner, with the highest level of diction and mastery of the language. Keep it up and good luck in your future dreams.
@mdesm2005
@mdesm2005 10 лет назад
I'm still watching. Great video.
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 13 лет назад
@GregUzelac Thank you! My lab has been growing steadily in the past 10 ~ 12 years or so. Most of the time I buy broken equipment from eBay or surplus stores and fix them up for my lab. But you can imagine if you spend $150 dollars a month (on average) on equipment, that is 21.6k in 12 years! ;) The oven is simply ridiculous, I agree!
@BradMorrisKA3YAN
@BradMorrisKA3YAN 10 лет назад
Brilliant! Thank you for taking the time to put these videos together. As a Radio Amateur, this was very helpful in understanding exactly what makes crystals oscillate. I'm always eager to view your next video!! 73
@jacobramlow
@jacobramlow 12 лет назад
Now this is a QUALITY tutorial. Luckily there are people out there with this pricy equipment who are willing to demonstrate and explain some extremely useful information for free. THANK YOU
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 12 лет назад
@sjoerdbeukers Yes, this is my personal lab. Please check back soon for some new equipment reviews and teardown. I also have plans for more tutorials during this month. Thankyou for all your kind comments.
@FRRRRAAANNK
@FRRRRAAANNK 10 лет назад
Your clear and simple explanations really help me to absorb the lesson. Thank you.
@drulli1
@drulli1 10 лет назад
When I studied RF/HF 25 years ago the vast majority of the study was based on theory and calculations. Obviously I missed the fun part of the RF engineering. I really enjoy your videos!
@soronemus8815
@soronemus8815 9 лет назад
I am a mechanical engineering masters' student who is focusing on mechatronics/robotics. Your video was amazingly helpful to learn about the topics they do not teach you as a mechanical engineer. Keep it up!!
@rubber20021
@rubber20021 10 лет назад
Thanks for showing and demonstrating the temperature effects on various crystal oscillator types.
@W1RMD
@W1RMD 3 года назад
One of your videos popped up on the side of my screen, so I thought i'd check it out. I checked out the comments on one video and saw that Alan, W2AEW commented so I figured if he likes it that it must be good. He was right! Thank you! You make this interesting as well as informative. It flows at just the right pace for someone with little to medium training, such as myself can follow. Well done!
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 3 года назад
Thank you Ryan! I hope you enjoy the later videos as well.
@lykp
@lykp 12 лет назад
Very nice videos :) Do not worry about their length, we like them anyway! Thank you very much! Keep 'em coming! PS: It would be nice to show the frequency spectrum of the last (big) oscillator.
@djscurge
@djscurge 13 лет назад
Watched the whole series. Great videos! Quality AV and thorough exploitation of the concepts. Loved seeing the old crystals in the 1st video. Will be looking forward to new videos from you. Thanks!
@TheCrazyStudent
@TheCrazyStudent 12 лет назад
I watched all four parts and I must say that I really enjoyed every second of it. It was really interesting and informative. Don't worry about your videos becoming long. Since the content within them is really interesting, it's difficult to NOT stay focused the whole time. Thank you, and keep up the awesome work.
@antonnefedenkov1074
@antonnefedenkov1074 3 года назад
Wonderful! Thank you very much for making this!
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 13 лет назад
@Assemblycode Thank you! Unfortunately spectrum analyzers are among the more expensive set of equipment. But I think you can pickup a 1GHz HP one for about $1200 from eBay.
@emdored
@emdored 13 лет назад
Really great tutorial, professional way of explaining the crystals and the used tools, I really enjoyed it, and hope to see more your great tutorials.
@wald1dan
@wald1dan 12 лет назад
Fantastic presentation skills. Thank you for sharing. You gave just the right level of detail. I'll be watching more of your videos for sure.
@SjoerdBeukers
@SjoerdBeukers 12 лет назад
@TheSignalPathBlog I am jealous ;) I have a lab power supply oscilloscope function generator etc. and the best way to understand components is to see what it does. I learned by just looking at a signal through a capacitor on my scope.. changed the signal an looked what happened. at 1:11 you are cooling down a crystal.. that's the way to make people understand what is happening! great job!
@SjoerdBeukers
@SjoerdBeukers 12 лет назад
Thanks! that was excellent. The visualization with the spectrum analyzer made all the difference. great job!
@duanebarry2817
@duanebarry2817 3 года назад
I've just found your channel and I appreciate all of the information and instruction! I've learned a lot from just this video and the video on delta-sigma modulation!
@jaylav1125
@jaylav1125 11 лет назад
Excellent set of videos! Actually cleared up a lot of questions I had. As a mechanical engineer trying to learn and teach myself electronics & design all of your videos are great!
@inDefEE
@inDefEE 12 лет назад
This was a great series of videos. My senior design project for my EE degree is to make a discrete Phase Locked Loop. For this I need a VCO and I was considering using a ring oscillator (probably around 11-13 stages). Seeing the VCO stability through the spectrum analyzer was very useful for me. Thank you!!
@at0977
@at0977 Год назад
Great Video
@SJayanth
@SJayanth 2 года назад
Great, thanks. Hope, more tutorials and theory videos will be coming.
@felixdgniezno
@felixdgniezno 12 лет назад
I've really enjoyed watching this video. The length of this presentation was just fine ;)
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 11 лет назад
Fantastic videos, keep up the great work. Very educational, I love videos like this.
@KeenanTims
@KeenanTims 13 лет назад
Great videos. Keep them coming! I knew most of what you presented here, but you did it well and kept me engaged anyway. And lovely gear. My word ;)
@hla27b
@hla27b 13 лет назад
excellent presentation keep up the good job
@josetexraider
@josetexraider 11 лет назад
i agree with all of you guys, you are a very good professor, thank you
@samuelpeterdelaney
@samuelpeterdelaney 11 лет назад
Thanks for the series, so much more informative than what I received on my degree programme!
@MrPBrane
@MrPBrane 11 лет назад
Another great and informative video, thanks! Though I personally had hoped to learn more about what the signal at the crystal actually looks like, and what kind of circuit is used to keep in oscillating.
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 13 лет назад
@GregUzelac The Fluke 87 is a great meter! You are right about $150 being very little, I have to confess, at times I have spent much much more than that! ;)
@b4dan92
@b4dan92 10 лет назад
Great video with clear explanations.
@brancon1979
@brancon1979 12 лет назад
Outstanding!!! I like the spoken English as well. I would like if you can go through more theory.
@weikiatteo
@weikiatteo 8 лет назад
great lesson learnt in these videos. thank you!
@georgelewisray
@georgelewisray 7 лет назад
+1 => Excellent in every way !
@jobotheclown
@jobotheclown 8 лет назад
It'll be great if you can show and explain the circuit that runs the crystal as well
@EngineerNick
@EngineerNick 8 лет назад
Thanks for taking the time this was great :)
@mehdiachouri
@mehdiachouri 10 лет назад
very very good work, detailed information, i got to see the inside of a crystal, thank you for sharing your knowledge, respect!!!
@keithostertag
@keithostertag 12 лет назад
Thanks for the great video series. Very practical.
@liamhanmore5937
@liamhanmore5937 9 лет назад
Excellent tutorial, thank you.
@seanregan730
@seanregan730 5 лет назад
Hi Shahriar, Just one last remaining thing on the subject I was hoping you would show us how stable the large Oven based oscillator handled temperature changes in the extreme by cooing it and also how well it handled voltage change Pt 5 maybe include an atomic reference to compare with all of them thanks again great videos regards Sean
@AshleyMillsTube
@AshleyMillsTube 9 лет назад
fantastic stuff!
@chukchee
@chukchee 11 лет назад
I love this hands on, practical explanation of how things work. If you have time to make more videos, please do. I am interested in building a switching power supply, yet cant find a tutorial that I can understand. Thank you!!!!
@ivanv754
@ivanv754 9 лет назад
Thank you for the video Sahriar!
@naohwatson854
@naohwatson854 6 лет назад
7 years later and it is very intererig. An explanation of the drivi g circuit would be also interesting for a future video.
@SjoerdBeukers
@SjoerdBeukers 12 лет назад
@TheSignalPathBlog PS the can dusters gas is R134a, a known refrigerant. boiling point is -26 or so.
@jordanwaeles
@jordanwaeles 13 лет назад
Thank you, best hour ever spent on youtube!
@marceloabbade5380
@marceloabbade5380 9 лет назад
Excellent video! Congratulations!!
@lukedandy6682
@lukedandy6682 9 лет назад
Great videos, well done. Thanks for making them.
@muhamadhamdy6576
@muhamadhamdy6576 9 лет назад
Beautiful Videos
@Kalkaekie
@Kalkaekie 10 лет назад
Very well done !! Very helpful and interesting !! Thanks !!
@mehmetdurna3115
@mehmetdurna3115 5 лет назад
Very informative video, thx!
@hillbillyhorticulture8960
@hillbillyhorticulture8960 6 лет назад
excellent explanation
@GregUzelac
@GregUzelac 13 лет назад
Good job! I love your bench, very tidy and clean. Your equipment is very nice as well. I see many tens of thousands of dollars in beautiful gear. May I ask how long it took to acquire all the instruments? The illumination is great, but the camera focus is slow at times. I have never seen a oven that big; my eyes popped and my jaw dropped when you introduced it to us.
@daniellybaert1958
@daniellybaert1958 10 лет назад
Perfect tutorials, When You would wright a book with video's included on some memory stick, You would have mach client's me incl.I would like to start programming the PIC's, it's complicated (for me) though the graphic programming software Flowcode seems to be very helpful ! Thanks for Your nice job.
@BoutinMathieu
@BoutinMathieu 9 лет назад
Very useful video, you did an amazing job, thank you so much!
@abulmagd3
@abulmagd3 13 лет назад
awesome job
@deathofhackers
@deathofhackers 9 лет назад
Hey Genius, thats very imformative. Thanks!
@3cu14rs
@3cu14rs 13 лет назад
Thanks for the series, loved watching. Think you could find some time to explain the driving circuitry for a normal crystal and how it works?
@thefellowbreather
@thefellowbreather 13 лет назад
Quite a perfect video for beginners. Moreover if I request to have a tutorial on designing different crystal oscillators and also some LC oscillators, can they be uploaded? I will be hoping for one from you.
@josebarrientos5191
@josebarrientos5191 8 лет назад
awsome videos thanks for taking the time to make them learned alot
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 8 лет назад
Very informative, thank you.
@SkillWill22
@SkillWill22 8 лет назад
Thanks for the videos.
@christophers6034
@christophers6034 10 лет назад
Very informative. Thank you.
@koggism
@koggism 6 лет назад
Quality vid.
@Thesignalpath
@Thesignalpath 13 лет назад
@hla27b Thanks :)
@matthollandsf
@matthollandsf 9 лет назад
great video, thank you.
@douro20
@douro20 10 лет назад
I have an instrument-grade OCXO somewhere, but I don't remember where. It is a very old one, and it has a fine-tuning screw on the side of it.
@dwurmfeld
@dwurmfeld 9 лет назад
very cool - I would like to see the spectrum of the oven controlled oscillator.
@Aemilindore
@Aemilindore 6 лет назад
Made it to the last. Happy about my day.
@dabay200
@dabay200 7 лет назад
This video makes me want to go out and buy a spectrum analyser, but unfortunately I can't afford it and I'm not good enough to repair a broken one yet :(
@ElvisAviator
@ElvisAviator 11 лет назад
Very thorough explanation about Crystal oscillators, thanks and I hope youtube makes you partner. Thanks
@SjoerdBeukers
@SjoerdBeukers 12 лет назад
Little question though... are the instruments your own?
@angeldiez9675
@angeldiez9675 11 лет назад
Congratulation for these very well explained videos. I'm a beginer in this and i have a couple of questions, i hope you can solve them. How do you know or figure out the tension and the voltage a crystal can bear? and how are related the tension aplied to a crystal and its overtones? Thank you!! and, once more, congratulation!!
@SOEINEGAUDI
@SOEINEGAUDI 13 лет назад
Thank you soo much :)
@faustinalu1930
@faustinalu1930 11 лет назад
Nice videos. I have a question about the crystal oscillator. I want a crystal oscillator with a frequency range less than 20kHz, but I found the lowest available frequency for it is about 32kHz. One way is to reduce the frequency by using a frequency divider. But I only have a small space for my oscillator. Therefore, I want to build my own oscillator with a frequency less than 20kHz with a small dimension. I am not familiar about the oscillator. Do you have any advice? Thanks.
@pa3deeghztv302
@pa3deeghztv302 7 лет назад
nice video. s
@DonPavardenis
@DonPavardenis 10 лет назад
super, very helpful, thanks =)
@KX36
@KX36 11 лет назад
no spectrum shown for the big OCXO?
@gacherumburu9958
@gacherumburu9958 2 года назад
👍
@pji6494
@pji6494 10 лет назад
Very interested in your video... ^_^
@sweetguy19762
@sweetguy19762 9 лет назад
The Signal Path Blog will I get oscillations with just a crystal and a battery?
@matthollandsf
@matthollandsf 9 лет назад
Owen Chase science channel no you need an oscillator circuit, the crystal just sets the frequency. google "pierce oscillator" for more info.
@dragonhead48
@dragonhead48 9 лет назад
You didn't mention anything about VCXO's ..
@Tiky.8192
@Tiky.8192 11 лет назад
Your camera really can't auto focus :(
@Jonnysea1986
@Jonnysea1986 11 лет назад
I think I love you....
@1972hattrick
@1972hattrick Год назад
What am I so afraid of.
@anmingren8747
@anmingren8747 4 года назад
hello
@tashpaug
@tashpaug 9 лет назад
excellent video. Keep them coming.
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