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Tube Vise Build - Fireball Tool Style - Part 1 

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This is Part 1 of the Fireball Tool style tube vise build. I was inspired by Jason from Fireball Tool who made a video of building his steel tube vise. This type of vise is very strong as you can see in another video where Jason tests a bunch of vises including the vise he built. Many thanks to the following RU-vidrs for taking the time to record and share their vise builds. These videos have helped me in my build.
Jason's vise build - • Making A Big 16” Vise ...
Jason performing tests on a number of different vises - • WHAT VISE IS THE STRON...
A tube vise build from Smart Channel. No mill or lathe used. Includes a swivel base - • ЛУЧШИЕ ПОВОРОТНЫЕ ТИСК...
A tube vise build from Marfy Maker - • Video
A tube vise build from Wildman Tech. No mill or lathe used - • Building the Fireball ...

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@CALDues
@CALDues 4 месяца назад
Im so jealous yours is done and broken in and I'm just getting up to speed. Im so glad I got to see Jason and Smart Channel and now you build this tube vise. Y'all are making the process so much easier for others with the explanations and descriptions and videos, thanks a million.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 4 месяца назад
No problem. It will be good to see your one once it is complete.
@Jims-Workshop
@Jims-Workshop 2 года назад
WOW, this is a very ambitious project. I can't imagine tackling something like this myself, but it is a great deal of enjoyment to watch how you are doing it. Looking forward to part 2. Looking great so far. 👍
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@joeshomeshop
@joeshomeshop 2 года назад
Very nice! Unlike Jason’s video, this almost makes it seem possible to build one myself. Almost.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks. It has been on my list for some time.
@danbreyfogle8486
@danbreyfogle8486 Год назад
Gotta go see part two, this is a great looking build.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching.
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Год назад
Brilliant! Very well done. Thanks for sharing.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 2 года назад
Good work so far. That said, as my local scrapyard does a great line in vices for scrap iron prices I will never need to actually make one myself!
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks Ben. I don't think you can go browsing around scrap yards in NZ like you use to in the old days. If anyone gets injured 'WorkSafe' would come down on the company so hard it is not worth it.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 2 года назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz We have the same rules here, but imaginative solutions. They make you wear a hi vis vest for a start.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball Год назад
Awesome build..lots of work!
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Yes it was a lot of work, but I use this vise almost every day so it was well worth it.
@mftmachining
@mftmachining 2 года назад
Excellent job, congrats
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thank you.
@testyourdesign233
@testyourdesign233 2 года назад
Awesome start. 👌
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thank you.
@seamusbolton215
@seamusbolton215 2 года назад
Just found your channel, excellent videos, looking forward to many more
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 2 года назад
I'm building one for myself it will have 42" travel and 16"jaws. Great video, keep'um coming..
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching. Wow!! that must be for some large work. It would be good to see it once you have it finished.
@timberwrightsvs480
@timberwrightsvs480 Год назад
@Kentucky Trapper - Did you ever finish the monster work holder you described (above)? It reads like to would crush Jason's Fireball Vise like a grape! 😁
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Год назад
@@timberwrightsvs480 still in the works, lol. Going to be a beast for sure.
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 2 года назад
Gday, you have done a great job, I like the design and it won’t wear out in a hurry, looking forward to the next video, cheers
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@jaydenh2839
@jaydenh2839 2 года назад
Great video if i could make one suggestion upgrading to a acme or trapezoidal thread will give better wear and load capabilities and you dont have to turn the handle so much to open the vice.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks. Yes, that would be better. In this case I had the M20 all thread, but I did design the vise so that it can be taken apart and items can be changed/upgraded.
@Cholton327
@Cholton327 2 года назад
Your channel is good. I see much potential.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thank you
@joell439
@joell439 Год назад
Wow- awesome results. Just found your channel from the #roughcut2022 tag. I’ve immediately subscribed and I am excited to consume the rest of your content. Keep up the excellent and very inspiring work….. and hopefully you can find the time and energy to share more. Your style sure meets everything I’m looking for in RU-vid fabrication/machining content (which is pretty much all I watch). I expect so many others like me feel the same. 👍👍😎👍👍
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
I'm glad you are getting something out of these videos. Thanks for watching and for your comments.
@RedHat.channel
@RedHat.channel 3 месяца назад
good device...
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 3 месяца назад
Thank you.
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 2 года назад
Your vise looks extremely sturdy. I notice you use Mig and Stick welding, how do you decide which situation requires what sort of welding? Also why two sets of bearing at the front and why the two additional nuts at the front? Thanks
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Hi, you are very observant. My Mig is 200A and capable of welding thick steel. But it is setup for 0.9mm wire so that is good for around 6mm or so. When I need to weld thicker steel (like the 13mm plate), I use the 200A stick welder. The big bearing in the front takes the clamping load when you tighten the vise. The thrust bearing in the back gives you smooth action when you open the vise. The two nuts allow you to adjust the play in the assembly, and to lock that whole assembly together.
@mastourabderrahman694
@mastourabderrahman694 Год назад
روعة شكرا
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
لا مشكلة
@bt5526
@bt5526 Год назад
At about the 17:20 mark of this video, you mentioned that you had to "relieve the ends" of the outer tube. I'm gleaning that this was done to allow the inner tube to slide a bit more freely. Would you mind elaborating on how you accomplished the relief you mentioned, sir? Needless to say, the sliding action in this design is a very important factor when it comes to the final product. Thank you for producing a very useful video.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, from memory the tight area was at the end of the outer tube. Probably shrinkage due to welding at the end of the tube. I used a file which was enough to relieve the tube enough to allow the inner tube to slide through.
@norman1826
@norman1826 11 месяцев назад
Hi there Mate...awesome vice..i was wondering if i could place an order for the exact size bench vice.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 11 месяцев назад
Sorry, I have a list as long as my arm of projects that I need to do. Thanks for watching.
@norman1826
@norman1826 11 месяцев назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz thanks for your reply ..no worries bro all good
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 Год назад
Hi Mate, just curious about your welding. You use MIG for tacking and Stick for the bulky welds. Is there a reason for this? I’m very keenly following this and your series on the Hossfeld bender. You make it look like I could actually make one of each. Thank you for bringing this technology to the masses.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, my mig is setup for the smaller material. It is 200A but I use only 0.9mm wire. My arc welder is 250A so I use that for the thicker material.
@chip-load
@chip-load Год назад
Stick lays down more material faster and usually is 100% duty cycle. DIY MIGs are usually 30% duty cycle. His technique is perfect for this application. Flux-core MIG could be an alternative consideration (if your MIG is capable).
@rikferraz_
@rikferraz_ 7 месяцев назад
Gostei, mas poderia ter um ângulo de ataque mais avançado nas laterais,mais arrojado, e em baixo um desenho para prender tubos redondos. Faltou fechar as laterais que suportam os mordentes, se fosse feito isso, ficaria mais resistente, mais que perfeito. Também estou fazendo um roletado. Parabéns!
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 7 месяцев назад
Muito obrigado.
@garybrown9719
@garybrown9719 Год назад
Would you do anything differently looks like you thought of everything If you upgrade to acme thread I hope you make a video
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, thanks for watching and your question. Yes, the only thing I would do differently is use an acme thread. Don't get me wrong, the thread I used is fine. It seems plenty strong enough and it allows you to apply huge pressure. The only issue is when I have to extend the vise out wide it takes a bit of time to do that. I made a hex adapter that fits on the nut and into a drill. I keep it under the bench and use that if I need the vise opened really wide. I don't need to use it much so I probably wont upgrade this vise to acme thread. I hope you had a great Christmas. Happy New Year.
@dr.feelgood2358
@dr.feelgood2358 5 месяцев назад
nice job! I have one piece of unsolicited advice for you. slow down your welding travel speed, they have the telltale signs of moving too quickly. it's not thin steel so you won't burn through.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tips!
@user-cd7jx2td8n
@user-cd7jx2td8n Год назад
Your vise build has the distinction of being the first one I've seen in which angle steel was used to encase the [for lack of a better name] "inner sliding square tube" that houses the lead screw. I'm aware of other builds in which four steel flats were placed around the inner sliding square tube (over shims), clamped and welded to do the same thing. Now that you've put the vise/workholder through its paces for a while, do you still feel that using the angle steel to "register" against radiused corners of the inner sliding square tube was the best way to go? I'm thinking that a workholder with a large capacity, as one clearly achieves with your design, will really come in handy; hence, the critical question about encasing the inner sliding tube steel. I've liked and subscribed, so please keep up the good work, mate! Cheers! 🙂
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, I actually used the four steel flats and shims method when I built my belt grinder. I got that idea from this video and it worked fine on the belt grinder. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a_RlL1O-bK4.html I opted for the angle iron on the vise because the radius of the inner tube matched the radius on the angle iron, and more importantly, there would be less welding which should result in less distortion, particularly when I was looking for a good fit. There was a bit of play from the beginning as I showed in the video, but I don't think it has got any worse. Thanks for the like and sub.
@bt5526
@bt5526 Год назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz It's quite a coincidence that you should include a link to Jeremy's belt grinder build video. Why? Because I've been gathering the parts and pieces to build the exact same machine myself! The main thing we still lack for the belt grinder build is the VFD. The VFD units that are dust resistant are terribly expensive. Did you make a belt grinder build video of your own? Otherwise, would you mind writing back and telling me which VFD you ended up using for your belt grinder? Cheers! 🙂
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 11 месяцев назад
@@bt5526 I did not make a video of the build because I built the grinder before I started making videos. But, I did make this video on the grinder that may be of interest to you. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-frj6cSBCUSQ.html I did not install a VFD on the grinder, and I have never needed to reduce or increase the speed so I don't think I will put on on it. That said, my drill press is right next to the grinder and I put a VFD on that. Again, the installation was done before I started making videos, but I have made this video that may be of interest. I show how I close in the VFD mainly to cover the exposed wires, but it will keep the dust out as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ANxhQLui8Lw.html
@ylmazoytan8334
@ylmazoytan8334 Год назад
could you share the drawings and Measurements, please?
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Hi, I don't have any plans for this build. Note that you can get the plans from Fireball Tool. fireballtool.com/en-nz/products/diy-vise-plans?_pos=1&_sid=ff4b600b7&_ss=r
@felipebersinger
@felipebersinger 5 дней назад
Alguien tiene los planos en PDF para poderlos hacer??
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 5 дней назад
Thanks for watching. You can purchase the plans from the Fireball Tool website.
@alessandrocampos1797
@alessandrocampos1797 Год назад
Passa as medidas das peças as escalas
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz Год назад
Thanks for watching.
@marcelf21953
@marcelf21953 2 года назад
I enjoy your projects. I like the craftmanship and the way you finish your welds and edges of the metal parts. A project always looks clean when the edges are chamfered and plumb, level and square. But what I don't like is the crying. If this was a job then I could see you complaining about how much grinding there was. This is your hobby and "There is no crying in hobby metalwork" I enjoy every minute that I am in my shop and it is not the pace to complain. If the project takes twice as long as anticipated then that is twice the minutes that I enjoyed in my shop.
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Thanks for watching. That's not crying. You should have seen me when I broke a 20mm end mill. Now that is when I start crying...
@trollforge
@trollforge 2 года назад
Really well done! But, sorry, not Fireball Tool Style... You need at least 80 Tons of machinery to do anything Fireball Tool Style... ;)
@thehobbymachinistnz
@thehobbymachinistnz 2 года назад
Yes, Jason does have some nice machinery which I would love to have. But, he also has a lot of room for the which I don't have. Still, you can make great tools/projects with the basic tools, a lathe and a mill. And, some of the links I posted showed the people making the vise without a lathe and a mill. Great effort on their part, hats off to them!!
@trollforge
@trollforge 2 года назад
@@thehobbymachinistnz no disrespect was intended I don't own a mill so everything I do is trying to get things done without the best possible machinery for the job. The semicolon closed bracket is the old school Winky smiley face emoji signifying that what was just said was a joke. I was making light of the difference in meaning of the word style. Fireball tool style could mean that vise is made to resemble the vise made by fireball tool, and I did understand that that is what you meant. The joke being that fireball tool style could also mean using the same manufacturing process... Most of my comments are simply bad jokes...
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