TUBES or TUBELESS? What does your MTB really need?

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Do your MTB wheels really need to be tubeless? Most of the need is based on how hard you ride, but there is another factor to consider - How often do you ride? Does your bike sit for long periods of time between rides? In my experience, tubeless wheels will lose all the air and the sealant will dry out if they sit for more than a couple of months. The average MTB rider might only ride their bike every few months on a trail. Are tubes better for the average rider knowing this?
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@alphadawg040 Год назад

That is true but if you regularly use and service your bike this shouldn't be a problem.

@_film_flashback Год назад

and i think the average person rides their bike more than a couple of times a month. yea? no?

@noneyabizz8337 Год назад

@@_film_flashbackthe average person probably isn't checking their air much

@Crowfist 4 месяца назад

All i hear is less service for tubes. ;)

@jameswilson2815 Год назад

I never had the problems you had. I have 2 hard tails and I went tubeless and never looked back. Had many punctures and the tires sealed up in minutes. But here's the, thing. Make sure your rims are tubeless compatible, tubeless tires, tubeless stems, tape, and proper sealant. I never walked up to my bikes and had flat tires. Yes, they will lose air in time but not go flat. I'm a little surprised at you Kevin, you have a lot of experience. Keep riding. Keep smiling. Aloha. 😎🤙

@clint2627 Год назад

I certainly don't need tubeless setup, but I do like the ride quality I get from it.

@derDKP Год назад

Hard disagree. It is easy to put air in when you are still at home. Bit need air, so it is a wash. But changing a tube or repairing one on a trail is a huge hassle, where the tubeless one you just ride on it and it seals the puncture

@t_c5266 Год назад

A huge hassle? Air it down. Rip it out, and stuff a new one in. Maybe 5 minutes? Repair a tubeless on the trail. Especially if you've blown a bead.

@ericmckinney1829 Год назад

@@t_c5266 single CO2 and it’s rebeaded.

@t_c5266 Год назад

@@ericmckinney1829 so now I'm carrying an expensive little co2 tube filler along with my pump, and now I have to buy replacement cartridges. Wow. Tubeless sounds great!

@vuway- Год назад

I agree can't imagine not checking tire pressure after 3 or 4 months you're not that interested in riding you probably don't even know what tubeless tires are

@ericmckinney1829 Год назад

@@t_c5266 run inserts. go flat, who cares finished half an Enduro race with no air in the back tire. can’t do that with tubes

@doncrescas Год назад

It might be less who you are than where your ride. I can easily pick up 20-50 goatheads on a ride. Tubeless is a must.

@benjaminstevens4468 Год назад

My current tubeless setup leaks WAYYY LESS air, than any tubes I’ve ever had. It leaks a shockingly small amount, I have only had to add air when I hit a big rock really hard and it burped at the seam in that spot, since I set it up 4 months ago.

@pcbootleger Год назад

I have three bikes with tubeless tires. They all hold air very well. One of which I hate to admit I don’t ride much. Lost only 10 psi after 4 months of non use

@coop2011r Месяц назад

On my MTB, I like to ride tubes, and I often leap off of raised sidewalks, stairs, and concrete. I require additional sidewall strength.

@RideShagbark Год назад

Depends on the bike/setup. I've got some tubeless setups that hold air better than tubed. Generally they need air a little more often than tubes, but not always.

@Wheelsanstuff Год назад

A quality Tubeless setup shouldn’t be flat after 3 months though

@KevCentral Год назад

I have multiple sets of Bontrager/Roval wheels, Bontrager setups even have their custom inserts. I use tlr Bontrager tires/Maxxis tires, quality sealants and valve stems in all. All will leak and dry up in just a few months.

@mattfritzz Год назад

I have left my tubeless bike in storage for over six months and never got a flat. I use maxxis tires and some cheep entity rims.

@doncrescas Год назад

@@KevCentral tires vary a lot in terms of how porous the sidewalls are. Some of my maxxis tires are constantly weeping (dissector). The tires I have the hold sealant the best are Vittoria tubeless specific but they are quite heavy.

@Wheelsanstuff Год назад

@@KevCentral that’s odd, I have 3 bikes, two of which have maxxis front and rear tubeless, no issues. My fat bike however, uses taped wheels that aren’t tubeless ready, with jumbo Jim tires and they hold all year since it’s only a winter bike.

@harcormor Год назад

Yeah I have to agree something isn’t right. I got injured last July and my trail bike sat 4 1/2 months and never went flat….at very most lost maybe 3-5psi. If you are losing all pressure in 3 months there’s something not quite right. My current setup is maxxis dhf2/aggressor, with muc-off sealant, tape, and stems

@playgroundchooser Год назад

I've been running tubeless for a little over a year and will never go back. I wasn't sure if it was in my head or not until just last weekend where I rotated my rear tire off the bead at a bike park. I had to do a little emergency tube installation on the side of the trail. The rest of the day was filled with sketchy rear tire bouncing all over the dang place. Tubeless it is for me! :)

@Jamarkus_Delvonte 6 месяцев назад

I switched to tube and slime from tubeless. Also drilled from presta to Schrader. Never looked back

@i_eatstyrofoam Год назад

Or just inflate the tire?

@niteshades_promise Год назад

i only ride tubes. same on a scooter or motorcycle. must safer slower flat than a blow out.🍻

@ravalos001 Год назад

The type of riding you do should dictate what's best. I've ridden on tubes for years and recently decided on tubeless because I plan on doing some bikepacking/long distance off paved road riding. It's a matter of necessity not a contest between styles.

@xavierhulbert5849 Год назад

I’d like to emphasize the “want” vs “need” part of that statement. When you need tubeless and you don’t have it, you really really wish you did. I’ve burned through like 7 tubes in the last year because of needles, punch flats, and installing a new tire that was marginally too tight for the rim (also technically a pinch flat). It’s a struggle.

@stephenscering1776 2 месяца назад

Yea, it's hard to be fast at patching tubes if you don't use tubes!

@briannyob7799 Год назад

I go mountain biking and low tire pressure, so tubeless is a must. I also ride quite a bit. I'll go out in winter if the trails are OK.

@travisgibson5545 5 месяцев назад

What you get for buyint suntour forks

@liquidrival 10 месяцев назад

I ride at least 3 times a week. So it won't be a problem. I had tube and not use it for awhile and air was gone also. So mostly all the same when you don't use.

@guambra2001 Год назад

I like both tubes and tubeless. It’s certainly true that tubes in general lose less air then tubules tires. But tubeless is nicer

@1325386 Год назад

I like a hybrid setup. Tubeless up front tube in the back. I like the lower pressures and better puncture resistance for the tire that takes the most abuse when plowing through trails, but i like my back tire to have more pressure for better power transfer and lower rolling resistance wothout the hassle of tubeless.

@benjaminstevens4468 Год назад

A tube adds an insane amount of rolling resistance, that’s the main reason why it improves your ride quality, with a tubeless setup. Depending on what you mean by “high pressure,” that also adds significant rolling resistance, over a low-moderate air pressure. When the tire deforms as it encounters rough surfaces it lets the wheel travel with less interruptions in its trajectory. Every time a higher pressure wheel hits an irregularity, in the surface, it has to climb up and over, all of which requires additional energy and in addition, increases the overall rotations that a high pressure wheel has to make in order to travel the same path as the lower pressure wheel.

@niconine268 8 месяцев назад

Dunno. Something to consider with my motorcycle

@TenSapphires Год назад

Best statement so far

@tims_builds Год назад

My mtb tubeless setup holds air all season and I'm not changing tubes all the time. Add more sealant maybe?

@pokololotanginaser8264 Год назад

sometimes its faster to put tubes in rather than waiting for the sealant to dry

@stevencole7331 9 месяцев назад

I think with tubeless some things make a difference . First and foremost the tires and rims need to be tubeless compatible . Now you can setup non tubeless for tubeless but it's not going to hold air for a long time . I tried it and that's what happens to me going flat . Quality tires and thicker casings do make a difference . Of course your tubeless setup is critical and how it's setup . One flaw can be a problem . To do it yourself is a challenge at first like any bike mechanic operation but after a few trial and errors you figure it out .

@Stefan020 Год назад

I have non tubeless conti tyres which i use tubeless and the never went flat..

@axelgranzini6797 Год назад

Tubes are better for people who don’t go off road

@daytonabeachUSA Год назад

Agreed

@ColFox21 Год назад

Bro mine has tubes and I let it sit for a week and it’s flat and I fill it up with air and it’s fine again this is cap

@hard2600 Год назад

How about using a pump?

@flashfive23 Год назад

Hard disagree. My bike maintenance was ten fold before tubeless because of all the pinch flats!!

@Ferrari255GTO Год назад

Also, for anyone who rides higher pressures it might not make sense to deal with tubeless either

@upperparkranger5665 Год назад

I can't agree here, tubeless is better in almost all cases(opinion). You just need to spin the tires a couple times a week. Much rather add air before a ride than deal with a puncture or pinch flat out on a ride. Maybe if you don't have any rocks or stickers where you ride...

@ccarlock8537 Год назад

Smart

@gargunkle Год назад

Never could find that Schwinn Cutback in stock :(

@JoJohnso2 Год назад

For the right person tubes are great...I am not that person lol

@BikeFixIT Год назад

either one needs to be pumped up before riding

@alexkerr5007 8 месяцев назад

Lefty spotted. Nice.

@SkadooHusky Год назад

I run heavy duty tubes and tires with sealant. Honestly, I enjoy changing tubes on bicycles because I hate changing my motorcycle tubes so much.

@X41N3 Год назад

What? Inner tubes on modern motorcycles?

@SkadooHusky Год назад

@@X41N3 most still have tubes, yes. Many of the bikes that people in western countries buy are tubeless. These bikes are usually toys.

@t_c5266 Год назад

Really tubeless is only for hardcore riding where you need to really air down your tires and don't want a pinch flat. If you're not slashing around corners and hitting it hard (you're on a budget bike channel, so the chances are more than likely this isn't you) then a tube is fine. Sorta like clip in road shoes. The only people that need them are sprinters. If you're a road biker though, they actually waste more energy than they help

@alvarezherrera666 10 месяцев назад

Tube or tubeless, its all about PSI, for speed, terrain variety, confort.

@Bengy22 Год назад

If you are all about saving every extra pound tubeless is fine or if you run low psi, personally though not for me though. I run higher psi because I ride on pavement a lot as well, I don't want to mess with sealants and never had a flat, and when I did the math I was only going to save around 1/2 a pound total

@t_c5266 Год назад

And waste hours trying to get the tubeless to seal

@colinjava8447 7 месяцев назад

I just switched to tubeless on road bike as front tyre keeps exploding, 3 times now, with 3 different tyres, 3 different innertubes, in 3 different places. I think if I get problems with tubeless I can use innertubes on the wheels too.

@sgt.sasquatch Год назад

i prefer tubes , its about my area. its really inconvenient .

@macfin4862 Год назад

I'm pretty sure the average rider owns a pump

@thebdceigal 16 дней назад

I don’t get it… you should be checking your pressure every time you ride anyway, on any bike and tire setup. People who ride causally every once in a while probably won’t be riding bikes set up tubeless.

@johndef5075 Год назад

I have a mystery I cant figure. I just put a new rear tire on. The tire was pumped fully but lost alot of air in a couple days. Checked tube. No leaks. Put different tube in. Same thing. Significant loss of air over in a couple days and 0 leaks in tube. Never had this in 33 years of mtb. Anybody?

@KevCentral Год назад

My bet would be the valve is slowly leaking

@demoanddestroy Год назад

Tubeless is the best invention ever.. I have probably have at least five thorns in my tubeless setup right and I am going for a ride.. I have probably 100 patched tubes laying around.. I carry a tube if I need one.. Tubeless RULES

@dperreno Год назад

Yeah, but you can't ride on either tire - they both need to be pumped up.

@ZealousIdeal2000 Год назад

If you're only going to ride a trail every couple months, why not just rent a mountain bike on the occasion.

@JesusOurKing 4 месяца назад

In addition, the amount of adhesive required for a tubeless bike tire, accumulating in my mind, exceeds 30 lbs a wheel with frequent refills. The excessive quantity of sealant often leads to leaks through the spokes every night.

@Crowfist 4 месяца назад

30lbs of sealant??? I have a 2016 trek hardtail and it weighs 27lbs wtf are you smoking

@amountainbiker2654 Год назад

I ride my bike 5 times a week and race every few weeks tubeless is the only option

@tavo2422 5 месяцев назад

I don’t see a need for tubeless. Totally overrated. Cool factor I guess. I still run tubes.

@megashovelmanam1517 Год назад

I prefer tubes versus tubeless.

@harrygrimley4352 Год назад

I'm in the tube category. Simpler.

@iliyadavoodipour258 Год назад

i prefer not getting flats

@randalljohnson2009 Год назад

Wow, the average person only rides their mountain bike 6 times a year. Yikes, I must have an obsession. I ride 2 to 3 times a week and love my tubeless setups on my three bikes. I see them everyday and don't tell anyone but I am always squeezing those plus size rollers to see what kind of reaction I get.

@travisgibson5545 5 месяцев назад

Lol where do you get these numbers from

@Aydens_adventures609 2 месяца назад

I do 20 miles a day 😭😭😭 On my mtb………….. 💀 With trail tires- 😢 My wallet hates me when it comes to tires…. And I run tubeless-

@august_lincoln Год назад

Not true, my mountain bike with tubeless tires has extremely good air retention. So does everybody who sets theirs up right. Also, almost no one who cares about their bike is going to let it sit for 3 months without being ridden

@dakane328 Год назад

there's good reasons not to do tubeless but this really isn't one. you'll need to spend like an extra 30 seconds putting more air in your tires before you go out - so what? much more effort to change a tube on the trail if you get a puncture

@emmanuelreynoso5770 6 месяцев назад

I don't care what holds the air in your tires if youre riding in my group. Just bring yourself to the trail

@zap... Год назад

Maybe if your not riding once but every 3 or 4 months, you should just keep sitting on the couch.

@ccarlock8537 Год назад

Tire not meant to be tubeless

@jiriklimes645 Год назад

Big deal to pump your times once a montáž..

@foehammerE419 Год назад

You're most likely not using enough sealant. Using Stan's I can leave tubeless tires inflated all winter.

@specagent999 Год назад

There's some truth to this. I have a tubeless setup with Slime sealant that holds air with little to no leakage and I ride once or twice a month. The secret is I put nearly twice the recommended amount of sealant in there.

@AmvC Год назад

😂 just get a proper setup. DT Swiss wheels and Continental/Pirelli/Maxxis. And ... "Average rider who only rides every couple of months"? Seriously? Its nigh on a statement like "don't buy a bike if you don't ride it." Thanks for that advice. My advice: pumping up a tubeless setup with a stand pump in a warm dry space before the ride is better than fixing a ripped tube in the mud with stickers and a handpump 😂

@AmvC Год назад

P.s. i only have to pump up my tubeless tyres when i let air out for grip/comfort reasons and want to get them back up for speed/durability. Did 3000 km in the past 6 months never touching the valve or the pump. Like i said: just do it right with the right equipment.

@beauharvey8138 Год назад

you dont set your tubeless up very well. if you do it really well and have it air tight it should lose much.

@minnesotasteve Год назад

I was debating going tubeless as my bike supports it but I hardly ever have flats and I’m concerned with how long that sealant can stay in there, especially over winter

@chaysejames6079 Год назад

It kinda deprives how often you ride it. If you get a flat you can put a bit more sealant. And if it sits for a large amount of time then it gives the sealant more time to solidify.

@MidwestMTBAdventures Год назад

Tubes in no way give you the same trail ride experience as tubeless do. Maintenance? And eh only rides every few months. You have to much money or work too much of your going to spend a few grand and then only use it a few times a summer? Ride my full squish around town and in the woods tubeless and wouldn't go back.

@cgatlin65 Год назад

I haven't had a flat in 5 years since I went tubeless, and I generally run 25 psi on my xc bike and 30 psi on my gravel bike.

@t_c5266 Год назад

And you probably spend hours on upkeep to keep that true

@cgatlin65 Год назад

@t_c5266 My tires lose about 3 psi per week. Mavic rims, so no tape, Stan's sealant, CushCore, and Vittoria tires. I add about 3 oz of sealant every 6 months. What hours of upkeep are you referring to?

@t_c5266 Год назад

@@cgatlin65 you're like a cast iron cooker explaining how it's "just as easy" to upkeep as nonstick or stainless 🤣

@cgatlin65 Год назад

@t_c5266 What's your point? If you prefer tubes, then run tubes. I run tubeless. Don't try to tell me what's best for me. I'm not willing to put any more effort into keyboard fighting with someone who doesn't agree with my setup. It's MY setup. It's for MY benefit, NOT YOURS.

@t_c5266 Год назад

@@cgatlin65 You're like a cigarette smoker arguining IT'S MY LUNGS, therefore smoking is GOOD for me! You have no good reason for tubeless. You're just a bike rider following trends. Like the idiots with clipless pedals

@richdavenport7751 Год назад

tubes for trail riding, tubeless fo racing

@mattfritzz Год назад

Put stans no tubes sealant in your tubes and you will almost never get a puncture flat.

@lukesky36 Год назад

rotating the tires more often should help hold the air

@ryanscott1989 Год назад

I used the stock rims with duct tape on my Axum DP. Found some specialized tires on sale for $13 and only put air in them once in a year. I must just be lucky.

@tarstarkusz Год назад

Why is bike stuff always trying to reinvent the wheel and doing it poorly? Tubeless tires have been standard for at least 60 years. You would think this is technology that is more or less "mature" It's like a bicycle fork costing more money than a pair of shocks for a car or truck weighing 3000 pounds and where each shock weighs almost as much as the entire bicycle.

@LOGICAL-JAY Год назад

I race and I still use tubes on my road bikes

@DaveCM Год назад

You are not the average cyclist. The average cyclist doesn't have that many bikes sitting around. If you have a bike that isn't used much or a wheelset that isn't used much, it is better to just use tubes. I learned rhat lesson the hard way myself. I have a set of climbing wheels that came on my bike. I bought some deeper aero wheels since I live in rolling terrain. I was going to the mountains and the day before I left, I discovered the sealant in my climbing wheels was all dried out. So, I used the deep wheels. (Which actually didn't seem to hurt me at all.)